The Fischer Faction!

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Djokovicfan4life, Mar 28, 2008.

  1. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Whoops... I've made that mistake before; it's one of those that gets stuck in the noggin and resists correction. Thanks!
     
  2. haqqani1777

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    Thanks!
     
  3. DanF1961

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    I never hit a Fischer or Pacific racquet, but the Pacific BXT X Force Pro intrigues me: 98 head, 16x20 string pattern, 320 gram unstrung weight (310s are too light and 330s are too heavy), arm friendly etc. Anyways, my question is about the beam width. It's listed 25mm/23/20. I'm assuming it's 25 at the tip? If so does this wider beam at the tip prevent it from being noodly and give the frame a good sweet spot at the top? Thanks.
     
  4. morten

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    I found the Pacific 90 dangerously more powerful than Fischer 90. And defenatly not as sweet as Fischer. .
     
  5. t-swede

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    Got the racket today and there is barely a mark on the bumperguard and by the looks of it its on the first stringjob with fischer factory strings . A bargain at 24 euros . The only thing is that there is no printed specs and no suggested string tension , if anyone had a 1991 fischer catalogue they can post suggested string tension ?

    regards
     
  6. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Yes, it is a constant taper from 25 mm at the tip down to 20 mm at the top of the handle, not unlike the Prince CTS design that appeared in the late 80s. My experience with these frames – the stiffer red/silver Pro No. One, the more flexible MPro No. One 105, and a brief hit with with the first Pacific X-Force Pro – is a solid "yes" on both non-noodly and good string bed response at the tip.

    An additional note: one of the things I like in a racket, in general, is a thin beam. I like the aesthetics, the feeling of how it cuts through the air, and most of all the maximized spin window. Despite that preference, I love my 25/23/20 Fischers far more than I love even the two (constant-beam) Fischer M-Comp 95's I picked up from a TT member. It's a design that just feels and works great, in both the new Pacifics and the old Princes, and I'm happy that Pacific is keeping it available to tennis players.
     
  7. DanF1961

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    Thanks for the response. Generally, I like thing beam frames as well, I'm playing a Volkl Super G10 325 with a constant 20mm beam, but I think I'll to try the X Force Pro.
     
  8. WYK

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    Hey guys, just a heads up. That Black Granite no1 that I have in near mint is about to go up for sale. Let me know in PM if anyone may be interested. Wanted to give the faction a shot before I put it up.
     
  9. sargeinaz

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    I still have the Vacuum Pro 98 for sale, dropped the price in the sale section too. Let me know if anyone is interested!
     
  10. Crocodile

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    For those of you who play with Fischers are you conducive to moving to Pacific when the time comes to getting new frames?
     
  11. Alex78

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    Yes! I really, really like my current favourite, the X Tour 97, and I feel if I were to pick just one racquet because the house is on fire (as it is in another thread), this would be the one. I mean, right now ;)
     
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  12. McLovin

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    I feel the last iteration of the Pro No 1 (the Black Granite version) can be used interchangeably w/ the X Force Pro and BX2 X Force Pro. I personally have not used the BXT version, but a good friend has used the BX2 and BXT versions and feels they are extremely close.

    New Year, new racquet. I have also decided to make the switch to the X Tour Pro 97. My main reason is that it performs so well at the net, and my focus going forward is going to be on doubles (I'll still play some singles, but at 48, I find it takes longer to recover against the younger guys at my club).

    I picked up a 4 3/8" grip, added an extra overwrap (prefer 4 1/2"), and then some lead at 3, 9, & 12. It is weighted/balanced like an X Force Pro (320g, 310mm), and I'm really liking it. I'm serving extremely well, and can really crush my backhand. My only complaint is I'm having some issues w/ my forehand. There's not as much spin generated with this frame as with my Black Granite Pro No 1, but I'm playing around w/ tensions to see if I can get a little more. Down to 52/50 on the gut/poly mix, and am trying 50/48 the next restringing.

    Have you made any mods to yours?
     
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  13. Alex78

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    Here's my experience with the X Tour 97:
    Mods: Just a leather grip (Pacific calf skin), an overgrip, and a dampener. Current string: Völkl V-Wrap at 21/20 kg.
    Serve: Easy access to flat serves, but I predominantly use slice serves, which are easy to hit for me with this set up as well. I hardly double-fault with this one (so far, so good ;) )
    Forehand: That's where it really shines for me. Excellent placement, spin when I want it, and power when I go for it. Certainly more power than what I usually get out of my racquets (subjective assessment, of course).
    Backhand: Slice is decent, but topspin backhand (1hbh) takes some time for me to adjust because my other racquets are actually even more headlight. But this is my most difficult shot when I switch racquets, anyway...
    Volley: Rock-solid and one of the main reasons this stick feels addictive to me because I like to move forward, and for low volleys, this racquet just shines.
    Cosmetics (yes ;) ): I love the sublime look, which is very classy, especially the well-designed details.
     
  14. McLovin

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    Interesting that we have different problems: me forehand, you backhand. What grip do you use on the forehand? I'm more Eastern. I will say that when I step in & accelerate through the shot I'm able to generate decent pace & spin, but I assume my 'problems' are simply attributed to the adjustment period.
    Yes, I too noticed an improvement when digging out low volleys. Volleys overall ticked up for me. I assume it something to do w/ its maneuverability.

    Maybe we should be having this conversation in the X Tour Pro thread?
     
  15. Alex78

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    I'd love to! - But I'll be hard-pressed to find time for tennis until March, so I won't be able to contribute anything new for a while...
     
  16. Crocodile

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    Btw, Pacific have been very quiet on the tennis scene, hope 2017 we will hear and see more from them.
     
  17. Don't Let It Bounce

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    I'm considering picking up a couple of now-cheap Pacific BX2 Comp 105's before they disappear, as a eventual replacement for my MPro One 105's. One hesitation is the newer version's integrated pallet–plus–butt cap: in other Fischers I have experienced them not being fully locked down, squeaking as the butt cap halves rub against one another. (It was not broken pallet screws.)

    I'd rather have spikes sticking up out of the handle than feel the thing moving around under my hand while I'm trying not to stink up the court.

    My question: is this common enough that others have experienced it, or have I just had a bit of bad luck?
     
  18. zalive

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    I didn't experience this on my BXT X Force Lt No.1. At least so far lol (and I hope I won't).
     
  19. Chotobaka

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    I have had no issues whatsoever with the faux butt cap pallet caps with many Magnetic Speed, Black Granite or Pacific racquets. Unless they were removed/swapped and the screws were stripped, I see no way that what you are describing could even occur.
     
  20. McLovin

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    The BX2 line has the same pallet system as the 2005-2008 Fischers (2-piece integrated butt cap). I have experienced what you are talking about on a few different frames. For one I took the pallet apart & applied some superglue to the two pieces, then reassembled. Fixed the problem, but good luck changing the pallets in the future...

    For the other instance, I sent it back to Pacific as they are the only ones allowed to replace the pallets.

    If you do it yourself, just be sure to not tighten too much or you'll strip the screws.
    The BXT line has an all new pallet system, and the butt cap is not integrated, so there's no concern about it.

    On the new pallet system, one of my friends and an 'accident' with his BXT X Force Pro (it suddenly came in contact at a high speed with the court) and gave me the broken frame. Interested in the system, I tried to disassemble it. No dice. Its my understanding that, while replaceable, the old one will be unusable after the replacement. It has to be cut off of the frame.
     
  21. Gabriel Torea

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    I would like to be in! I have 2 Magnetic Tour SL strung with kirschbaum max power (one 60lbs, one 55lbs) and 2 Black Granite comp 95 also strung with kirschbaum max power (one 55lbs, one 50lbs) y just sold a Pro Tour Air Carbon last week (strung with babolat pro hurricane 55lbs).
     
  22. Gabriel Torea

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    The fact is that are really difficult to find here in Argentina. Fischer never sold officialy here.
     
  23. ollinger

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    somebody has offered me a BX2 x fast pro to try; anyone have an impression of this racquet, and what is the grip shape and sizing like??
     
  24. michael valek

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    Basically the bx2 is like a pure drive tour compared to the bx1 which is like a pure drive. The bx2 is longer. And 10g heavier. I preferred the bx1 as it was more maneuverable.
     
  25. SFrazeur

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    My racquet of choice. Solid, firm power player's racquet with a noticeable feel of weightiness in the head. The lighter LT model feels more flexible and is more maneuverable.
     
  26. MikeMechanic

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    Anyone who wants to grab some brand new Fischer frames can find them at Danish site SQUASHGEARpro.
     
  27. Henry Hub

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    Picked this pro no 1 (red/black?) for £11 off the auction site. Few chips but otherwise in great condition. It's the 295g version so offers some scope for tinkering.
     
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  28. McLovin

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    Nice! I have two of these (see previous page). I replaced the grip w/ a leather, added some lead in the handle, throat, and at 3 & 9 to bring it up to 320g, 310mm balance. Great feeling stick.
     
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  29. michael valek

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    Same as Pacific x force pro right?
     
  30. Automatix

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    No, same as X Force Pro No 1.
     
  31. michael valek

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    Sorry I meant at 320g.
     
  32. Henry Hub

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    Thanks - I plan to restring (still has the originals) and then have a hit to work out how it could be tweaked but that sounds a good balanced set up to follow. I had a brief hit with it today and its balance and manoeuvrability were so refreshingly different from the black-red FT which had been my sole Fischer foray until now (overly head heavy).
     
  33. joohan

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    Good one. I bought a blue Fischer Vacuum Pro Mid (Made in Austria) for 20€ shipped.
     

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