The Fischer Faction!

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Djokovicfan4life, Mar 28, 2008.

  1. mavsman149

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    I still think Pacific should brand their rackets as Fischer again, drum up some sort of brand awareness
     
  2. McLovin

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    You can have them...just cover postage. Shoot me a PM w/ your info & I'll get the cost to you.
     
  3. michael valek

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    Nice Fischer teamwork.
     
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  4. SFrazeur

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    They are concerned with brand awareness and it's promoting the Pacific brand.

    Baslat X and BX2 racquets with Fischer predecessors were marked with "Fischer Technology." It's only with new BXT racquets with Fischer predecessors has he Fischer name been dropped entirely.
     
  5. McLovin

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    I believe they still reference Fischer in some of their promo literature, but yes, it has been dropped entirely from the frame's graphics.

    And I'm not sure rebranding as 'Fischer' would gain much at all. They were a niche market 10 years ago, and many people I talk with didn't even know they made racquets, and these are 40+ yr old people. The conversation usually goes like this:

    Friend: what kind of frame is that? Pacific? Never heard of them.
    Me: They're essentially Fischer frames. They bought out Fischer back in 2009.
    Friend: <blank stare>
    Friend: Fischer? They made racquets?
    Me: Yes. They were more popular in Europe. Michael Stich & Yevgeney Kafelnikov used them.
    Friend: <blank stare>
    Friend: I thought they made skis?
    Me: F' it. Lets play.​
     
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  6. michael valek

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    Basically what you said.
     
  7. SFrazeur

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    I've had basically that exact same conversation.

    And those who did know Fischer as a tennis brand are in the USA, no offense to anyone, aging out and dwindling.

    I'm big into Pacific and most of my students use Pacific. But I never used a Fischer branded racquet.
     
  8. ProRadTour

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    Before they rename the frames back to Fischer I think they should drop those hideous black and white paint jobs. Just got two Vacuum Pro 90s in the mail today, after all the glowing praise of the frame I had to try them, what a beautiful paint job. Looking at other fischer models of the past, they really did make their frames stand out.
     
  9. mavsman149

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    Heck, I've had the conversation myself back in the day when I used the M Pro 1 98! I'm just saying changing from Pacific isn't the worst idea, since I'm pretty sure Pacific is even less well known than Fischer ever was and rebranding it is news and they need any kind of press to help them out.
     
  10. SFrazeur

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    If anyone is interested in an impressions / review I will be receiving the X Fast Ultra Lite soon from Pacific.

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    I just now received the X Fast ULT; the paint color is actually a bit more of a lemon-lime color which I prefer over a straight up yellow.
     
  12. Gary D

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    Some rare ones I have.


    .......well you'll see if I figure-out how to post....:rolleyes:

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    I'm damned if I can figure out how to use the url from Flickr.....if there's a 'how-to' on here someone pm me a link to it please.

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  13. McLovin

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    1. If you preview your image, you will see the 'share' icon ([​IMG]) in the lower-right. Click on that.
    2. Select the 'BBCode' tab
    3. Copy the entire string into your post
    4. If desired, you can get rid of the leading '[ url ]' tag, and everything after the closing '[ img ]' tag.
    For example...posting the picture of me w/ my trusty Black Granite Pro No 1 from last year gives me this whole mess:
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    But I removed everything except the first '[ img ]' tag, giving me the following:
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  14. Gary D

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    Much obliged.....I'll try later. ;)

    Jesus! What a phaff!!

    Well explained that man! :)
     
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  16. michael valek

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    Very nice.
     
  17. MikeMechanic

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    What is the opinion on the 295 gram versions of all the Pro No 1 98's Fischer released this millennium? 320 gram is just too much for me.

    Another question. What is the swingstyle index for the M-Pro No 1 98 (heavy and light version)?

    edit: got an answer, 6.2 for the 295 gram version, 6.6 for the 320 gram version. Racketaholics is my source for the last one.

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  18. Gary D

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    Thanks folks..... very accurately made.... less than 1 gram difference in weight across the 5 of them. (336g unstrung)
     
  19. McLovin

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    Well, call me 'Master of the Obvious', but they are essentially identical frames, other than some weight has been removed from the handle. The one in my photo above is the 295g version of the Black Granite Pro No 1. I added a leather grip, plus some lead under the grips, a few grams in the throat and an ever-so-small amount at 3 & 9 to balance it out, and it plays identical to the 320g version.

    So, the 295g version is essentially a 'platform frame' for those that don't want the full heft. You can play it stock (as a 4.5 rated friend of mine does), or slap some lead around it to see what you like.
     
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    Holy ****, the tennis gods have spoken for me. Just found these two at a play it again sports for 50 each!!! I guess that answers the question of which Fischer I need to try! [​IMG]

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  21. sofahead1108

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    I noticed the racquets are a little different though. One has China on the butt cap. Anyone the potential difference here? [​IMG]

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  22. MikeMechanic

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    How different do the Pro No 1 98's play compared to the M(agnetic Speed) Pro No 1 98's? The latter ones do have a more tubed frame for example. Must impact the way they play. I want to grab the 295 gram version but there are some differences so I hope people here can help me choosing a version.
     
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  23. dgoran

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    Haha exactly my conversation when I used pacific pro no1
     
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  24. sofahead1108

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    Sorry to post this again but I'm really curious. Anyone know the potential difference between the two revolution classic pros I posted? One buttcap is silver and says China on it and the other is black and doesn't.

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  25. Hansen

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    i prefer the old black/red pro no.1 (softer feel but adequate power) to the later versions, which have a different mold.
     
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  26. spinerella

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    I recently acquired one of these through a racquet trade - LOVE IT!

     
  27. dave t

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    Going to clear out my fischer/pacific stock if any of the faction-heads are interested. All grip L4 (except for the BXT x force - which is L3), newer pallet style. 2x - black granite pro no 1s (320g); 2x - m pro no 1s (320g), 2x Pacific X Force (BX1, 295g but customized), 1x Pacific Xforce (BXT line, L3 grip). Very good to excellent condition. Any interest/questions - please PM.
     
  28. Gary D

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    Glad you like it, - not sure if anyone's picked-up on the name on them & therefore the 'difference'. ;)
     
  29. BorgCash

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    Wow! These racquets belonged to Elena Baltacha. RIP.
     
  30. MikeMechanic

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    These are paintjobs btw. Not the real M Speeds.
     
  31. Gary D

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    If I understand you correctly, you are probably right. They're pro-stock.
     
  32. McLovin

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    No 'probably', he is 100% correct. Look at the throat in this pic:

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    And then look at the throat in the original M Speed Pro No 1:

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    And finally, look at the throat of the old Pro No 1 (aka VT98):

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    The frames are the VT98 mold with the M Speed PJ.
     
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  33. Gary D

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    Ok, that backs-up what the guy who prompted me to buy them suggested. An Aussie who used to work for Fischer & used to participate on here, sadly no longer with us.
    I play with the black/red & red/silver Pro1's, but these play differently & I didn't like them as much.

    For more info search Stringforum with 'Baltacha'.
     
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  35. MikeMechanic

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    Just curious, did Fischer ever released a racquet with 18 mains?
     
  36. Imago

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    Is this Vacuum Pro worth testing?

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  37. boinz

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    Definitely! It's a vac pro 90 in 14x19 ones of the earlier iterations possibly for clay courts
     
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  38. MikeMechanic

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    Wow, it is known Fischer releases high quality products, however even their sleeves come in high quality. The sleeve for the red black Pro No1 is thick and even has cushioning. Impressed.
     
  39. McLovin

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    According to racquetfinder.com, they released at least 3:
    • Fischer Revolution Comp 105
    • Fischer VT Club Lite OS
    • Fischer VT Comp 105
    All were 18x19. I suspect the Revolution Comp 105 and VT Comp 105 are the same mold, but I cannot verify as the specs aren't complete for them.
     
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  40. sofahead1108

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    I've had enough time now I think to give my review of the vacuum revolution pro classic. What a sweet frame. The ceramic layout really provides a unique feel I've never experienced before. The racquets are strung with a Gosen synthetic gut and I haven't played with a synthetic gut in years but it feels great. So soft but awesome provides some power I am greatly appreciating. I've played one competitive doubles match so far and one practice match. My returns are better than ever. The racquet is much more maneuverable than my dnx mp and so my reactions at net are much quicker too and the easy pop is great. Such a great feeling racquet. I recommend trying any ceramic racquet you can if you haven't.

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