The Four TOP contenders PATH to the TITLE at RG

Who does the draw favour?


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RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Wawrinka

R1 – Rosol
R2 – Klizan
R3 – Chardy
R4 – Simon
QF – Raonic
SF – Murray
F – Djokovic/Nadal

Nadal

R1 – Groth
R2 – Bagnis
R3 – Fognini
R4 – Thiem
QF – Tsonga
SF – Djokovic
F – Murray/Wawrinka

Murray

R1: Qualifier
R2: Qualifier or Wildcard
R3: Karlovic
R4: Paire/Isner
QF: Nishikori/Kyrgios
SF: Wawrinka
F: Djokovic

Djokovic

R1 – Lu
R2 – Qualifier
R3 – Delbonis/Bedene
R4– Bautista Agut
QF– Berdych
SF – Nadal
F – Murray/Wawrinka


Discuss (keep in mind that this is the projected opponents, doesn't mean it will look like this, everything can happen). I'm adding a poll aswell.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Stan has to start from 1R. Has the hardest line up . (Rosol is in Geneva SF, Klizan is injured but can play well, followed by Chardy / Simon/ Raonic)
Nadal has bye to the 3R
Murray has bye to the 4R

Novak has bye to the SF.

The line up looks like a ATP 250

R1 – Lu
R2 – Qualifier
R3 – Delbonis/Bedene
R4– Bautista Agut
QF– Berdych
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Stan has to start from 1R. Has the hardest line up . (Rosol is in Geneva SF, Klizan is injured but can play well, followed by Chardy / Simon/ Raonic)
Nadal has bye to the 3R
Murray has bye to the 4R

Novak has bye to the SF.

The line up looks like a ATP 250

R1 – Lu
R2 – Qualifier
R3 – Delbonis/Bedene
R4– Bautista Agut
QF– Berdych

Easy peasy lemon squeasy.
 
For clay Wawrinka has a great draw. Raonic beat him in Australia but should be no threat to him on this surface, in the unlikely event he even gets to the quarters. Murray has been a great match up for him for awhile. Watch out, he is now extremely dangerous.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal's is worst: fog, thiem, tsongster and djok is a tough 3rd-round-to-semi combo. The rest look pretty similar imo.

Djokovic's probably the easiest. MUGtista and Birdbrain are walkovers. Nadal is a safer bet atm on clay, but maybe Djokovic would have been bothered more if he had to play Wawa? Who knows. Murray is probably happy not to have drawn Nadal though.
 
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Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Stan has to start from 1R. Has the hardest line up . (Rosol is in Geneva SF, Klizan is injured but can play well, followed by Chardy / Simon/ Raonic)
Nadal has bye to the 3R
Murray has bye to the 4R

Novak has bye to the SF.

The line up looks like a ATP 250

R1 – Lu
R2 – Qualifier
R3 – Delbonis/Bedene
R4– Bautista Agut
QF– Berdych

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Zetty

Hall of Fame
Up until the quarters gotta say Djok or Murray. Wawa has Simon who can give practically anyone fits and Nadal has his boogeyman as late (Fognini).
 

Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
Now that i see it listed out like this. Im starting to think Djokovic has the easiest draw. Also on paper Murray's draw looked difficult but you have to remember that 3 of the players listed there have an atrocious record against him. Karlovic and Isner in paticular havent ever beaten him and i dont see that changing on clay.

Nadal has a tougher draw than i originally thought but i still think Wawrinka has the hardest draw. Rosol and Klizan are both good players in form and Chardy and Simon will test him. Then he has to face Raonic who has already beaten him in a slam this year and will benefit from the slower court conditions.
 
Nadal has the toughest draw. He has to go through 5 difficult opponents (including #1 and #2/or reigning champ). 4 of which are great clay court players. Brutal.

Wawrinka- I know Simon and Chardy can be challenging, but I'm not sure how good their games are on clay.

Murray doesn't have any good clay players until the QF.

Nole's draw is an absolute joke until the SF.
 

sarmpas

Hall of Fame
If the below are all on form Nadal will be running on empty by the time he reaches the SF so Novak effectively has a bye to the final.

R1 – Groth
R2 – Bagnis
R3 – Fognini
R4 – Thiem
QF – Tsonga

Also Murray and Stan will take chunks out of each other if they both bring their A game to the potential SF clash. It's Novak to lose, which I thought even before the draw came out, now seeing ther actual draw my opinion is reinforced.
 

Krish872007

Talk Tennis Guru
Bendych's days are numbered at RG. The awkward Czech may navigate Pospisil in 4 tough sets, get gifted a 2nd round win and maybe even make it past Cuevas or whoever he plays in R3 in 4 or 5 sets. Ferrer will start to catch and pluck the Big Berd, although we are all relying on Djokovic to triple bagel him out of the clay season.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
Stan has the easiest quarter. Would be surprised if he doesn't reach the semis.
Novak's is the 2nd easiest. But Ferrer, once a finalist here, is always a good fighter on clay.
Nadal's has Thiem/Tsonga. (Thiem could win in Nice tomorrow.)
Murray's quarter with Nishikori is the toughest. A healthy Nishikori is at the same level as Murray and Stan.
Prediction:
QF:
Djokovic d. Ferrer (this is the tough yet predictable match Novak needs)
Nadal d. Goffin
Stan d. Cilic (would be interesting to see how their final goes tomorrow)
Nishikori d. Murray (by far the toughest QF)
SF:
Djokovic d. Nadal (the best SF you can ever get on clay)
Nishikori d. Stan
F:
Djokovic d. Nishikori
 
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I think Djokovic and Wawrinka both have excellent draws.

Nadal has a tough draw and I couldnt be happier about that.

Murray's is pretty tough as well.
 

Fedole

Semi-Pro
Haha, there is literally no one that can give Novak a challenge until the SF. Up to Nadal or Thiem; wouldn't rely on Murray in a final, as good as that would be.
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
Sure, but the rest of the season wasn't, and it has been for 2 years. LAME. We need change, not more of the same.

Sure. But I am talking about RG in particular. If there were two things you could count on happening at the start of the season, they were the following.

Rafa hosting the RG trophy up again, after dismantling the draw with one arm behind his back.
Reigning Wimbledon champion opening up proceedings at 2pm on Centre Court on the first Monday.

As far you saying the rest of the season wasn't. Sorry, but for some us 10 years of the same guy winning everything on clay gets boring also. And lets not forget what Roger Federer was doing with his crazy dominance, 18 slams out of 19, 23 straight semi finals, he shut everyone out.

If you REALLY want a change, then someone OTHER than Nadal, Djokovic should win.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Sure. But I am talking about RG in particular. If there were two things you could count on happening at the start of the season, they were the following.

Rafa hosting the RG trophy up again, after dismantling the draw with one arm behind his back.
Reigning Wimbledon champion opening up proceedings at 2pm on Centre Court on the first Monday.

As far you saying the rest of the season wasn't. Sorry, but for some us 10 years of the same guy winning everything on clay gets boring also. And lets not forget what Roger Federer was doing with his crazy dominance, 18 slams out of 19, 23 straight semi finals, he shut everyone out.

If you REALLY want a change, then someone OTHER than Nadal, Djokovic should win.

I don't really think Rafa winning the FO was any more or less of a guarantee than Novak this year. He did have to face peak Fed/Novak every time. Sure he SHOULD have won it every year, the same way Novak SHOULD this year. But never was it this much of a formality tbh. His draw is literally worth laughing at. I'd be totally cool with someone new winning :D not that anyone but Novak has more than a 3% chance ;)..... for any tournament in the forseeable future..... idk why we do this every week, you feel how you feel and so do I.
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
I don't really think Rafa winning the FO was any more or less of a guarantee than Novak this year. He did have to face peak Fed/Novak every time. Sure he SHOULD have won it every year, the same way Novak SHOULD this year. But never was it this much of a formality tbh. His draw is literally worth laughing at. I'd be totally cool with someone new winning :D not that anyone but Novak has more than a 3% chance ;)..... for any tournament in the forseeable future..... idk why we do this every week, you feel how you feel and so do I.

That is because we have nothing better to do. :)
 
Ultronians are funny. Your motto should be "as easy and boring as possible, all the time".

A tournament doesnt need Nadal to be interesting. In fact nothing could be more interesting than a bunch of guys who have never won the French Open (or a surprise 1 time winner who nobody is picking to win it again like Wawrinka) at the business end of the tournament. As for most suspenseful match ups for Djokovic, Nadal doesnt win that either anymore.

Even if Djokovic lost 1st round I wouldnt root for Nadal and would be happy he has a tough draw. I may not be a fan of Nadal, but that is aside nothing is more unintersting than the very thought of a 9 time RG Champion winning again as opposed to a new winner of the event. Of course that I am not a fan of Nadal, makes that even moreso.
 
Djokovic winning this FO will be huge in tennis history. Obviously I am his fan so I very excited at his chance to get that French title, bag the career slam and win 4 in a row (NCYGS) something fed, Sampras or Rafa never did. It boosts novaks legacy to even greater heights.

His confidence would be sky high for Wimbledon, Olympics and the us open, to try pull off the golden CYGS :D
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
A healthy Nishikori is at the same level as Murray and Stan.

Ah this endless Nishikori hype! He is not at the same level as Murray and Stan, healthy or not. Stan is a French Open champion and has a clay Masters title. Murray has 2 clay Masters titles and made 3 semi-finals at RG. Nishikori has only 2 x 500 level titles on clay, has made only 1 quarter-final at RG and lost his only encounter with both Stan and Murray on clay. So why are you so sure he's going to take them both out at RG this year? :confused:
 
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Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal is not losing to anyone before Djokovic. I'd be surprised if he lost more than one set before that potential meeting tbh. The combo is relatively tough and that might be his undoing if/when he plays Novak, but nobody besides Djokovic is taking 3 sets off of him before the SF.
 

sarmpas

Hall of Fame
Haha, there is literally no one that can give Novak a challenge until the SF. Up to Nadal or Thiem; wouldn't rely on Murray in a final, as good as that would be.

Nadal isn't super fit like he used to be. The liklihood of him reaching the SF and having enough energy to even push Novak are slim.
 

bjsnider

Hall of Fame
Ah this endless Nishikori hype! He is not at the same level as Murray and Stan, healthy or not. Stan is a French Open champion and has a clay Masters title. Murray has 2 clay Masters titles and made 3 semi-finals at RG. Nishikori has only 2 x 500 level titles on clay, has made only 1 quarter-final at RG and lost his only encounter with both Stan and Murray on clay. So why are you so sure he's going to take them both out at RG this year? :confused:
Because reasons! I mean you just don't get it.
 

augustobt

Legend
Ah this endless Nishikori hype! He is not at the same level as Murray and Stan, healthy or not. Stan is a French Open champion and has a clay Masters title. Murray has 2 clay Masters titles and made 3 semi-finals at RG. Nishikori has only 2 x 500 level titles on clay, has made only 1 quarter-final at RG and lost his only encounter with both Stan and Murray on clay. So why are you so sure he's going to take them both out at RG this year? :confused:
In nishikori's defense, he'd have a Masters title on clay if hadn't got that back injury in the middle of the beatd.., er, match.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
In nishikori's defense, he'd have a Masters title on clay if hadn't got that back injury in the middle of the beatd.., er, match.

But that's just the point...he DID get that injury! Fitness and stamina are as crucial to a player's game as his ability to serve well and hit great forehands. Does Nishikori have the necessary stamina and fitness to win 7 best of 5 set matches against a succession of top players? The jury's still out on that one.
 
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