The future of men's tennis is Italian.

How many slams will these Italians win between them?


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deaner2211

Semi-Pro
Listen junior,

Errani/Vinci formed one of the most formidable doubles partnerships in history, reaching 8 slam finals in a 3 year period and winning five.

Both were top tenners in singles, and both reached a slam final. Vinci became a hero to the whole world when she crushed Serena's dreams.


But they were only the appetizer, Musetti, Sinner, and Nardi are the main course.
That is funny when your greatest achievement is beating Serena in the semifinals of the US Open. I would thing the greatest achievement would be winning the USO but she didnt.
 

SumYungGai

Semi-Pro
It will be cool to see who crops up out of the young pool of current players and juniors. I would still love to see a deep Fognini run in a slam though. It would be electric.
 
I'm italian and I understand your enthusiasm, but you guys have to leave them in peace.
Look at BerrettGOAT per example, he repeatedly stated that one of the keys to his success was him not being strong too early(article is in italian sorry).
It allowed him to stay away from distractions, focus on himself, live a normal life and become a more mature person.
Look at the bleakness and the sadness in the eyes of this old man, Gianluigi Quinzi. Please don't jinx Italy's golden generation.
 

UnderratedSlam

Hall of Fame
I'm italian and I understand your enthusiasm, but you guys have to leave them in peace.
Look at Berrettini per example, he repeatedly stated that one of the keys to his success was him not being strong too early(article is in italian sorry).
It allowed him to stay away from distractions, focus on himself, live a normal life and become a more mature person.
Look at the bleakness and the adness in the eyes of this old man, Gianluigi Quinzi. Please don't jinx Italy's golden generation.
With Fognini, Berrettini and now Sinner it's a pity Davis Cup no longer exists. Italy could have been a real favourite.
 
Let's ask Jannik if he's Italian or German.
https://corrieredelveneto.corriere.it/veneto/sport/19_novembre_15/sono-mi-sento-italiano-vorrei-giocare-davis-vincerla-gli-azzurri-temo-solo-riflettori-679f6694-0783-11ea-b1bc-49915ddb2d66.shtml?refresh_ce-cp

In Alto Adige / Sudtirol there have long been talks about dual citizenship. But you feel Italian, right?
I feel Italian and I am Italian. Totally. Even more so since I've been living in Bordighera. At this point, I probably even speak Italian better than German. I'd love to play the Davis Cup for Italy, and I suppose I wouldn't mind winning it.

:cool:
 
Not so sure. Berretini doesn't impress me that much. He is a great player but I don't see him as a future top-player or potential Slam winner. Fognini is already more than 30 and is way too unstable. Cechinato is only good on clay and will likely never play a SF again. I still don't know Musetti well but it's way too soon to make predictions.

We'll see for Sinner. Also way too soon to predict anything serious. Next year will learn us a lot more about him.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Berretini doesn't impress me that much... I don't see him as a future top-player or potential Slam winner.
As Becker said at Wimbledon, "this guy was just destroyed by Federer and showed absolutely no ability to adjust or deflect or do much of anything out there. There's lots of buzz about him in the media because he's a good looking, likable kid. But there's not much buzz about him in the locker room, to be honest."

That says it all.
 

DSH

Legend
È un peccato non considerare Jannik Sinner come il più grande gioiello del tennis italiano dai tempi di Adriano Panata.
 
Sinner's going to have to deal with the pressure eventually anyway-part and parcel of being a top player.

Cocciaretto is a future top-20 player barring injuries and/or laziness. She has a nice backhand.

 

A couple of interviews with Luca Nardi translated.

He won his first Future tournament in March in Egypt . In July, he had a close three-set match with Paolo Andujar. In Trieste, he had a two-set win in the first qualifying round against the experienced German Matthias Bachinger, no. 268 (but formerly n.85) before losing to Etcheverry no. 321. Luca is 935th; there is only one younger above him- the American Martin Damm.

https://www.ubitennis.com/blog/2019/09/04/us-open-junior-intervista-a-luca-nardi-quando-gioco-non-guardo-mai-il-tabellone/

What is it like to be here and play a Grand Slam tournament?
The atmosphere is great, wherever there is talk of tennis. For me it is the first time and they are all so professional! They treat us really well, it's the first time I've felt this way, I'm happy. It is good for a young tennis player like me to experience these emotions.

At the under 14 level you were considered one of the strongest in Italy and in Europe, you had also won an important tournament. Then you got injured.
Yes, I won Les Petits As in 2017 ( an ITF indoor tournament, considered one of the most important junior events. Players of the caliber of Nadal in 2000, but also Gasquet, Hingis, Clijsters won the tournament, ed ). Then at the beginning of the year I stopped due to an injury. Working on the backhand a lot every day, I had a strain in my back that affected me for almost four months. It wasn't easy at all, but it passed.

Who is your coach and what are your plans for the future?
My coach is Francesco Mendo, he is from Padua and I was born and raised in Pesaro, but I will soon move to Tirrenia. Let's say it's nice to travel, but because I really like the air of home when I return! For me, it's not an easy thing to go away for a long time… but I know it's the best choice for my growth as a tennis player.
With the school I will continue at home in Pesaro ( Luca attends the Marconi in Pesaro, a scientific high school with a sporting focus, ed ), in practice a bit by correspondence and a bit privately, I made an agreement with the principal.

What's your favorite shot? And your best quality? You prefer the forehand, the backhand, you are good from the bottom ...
I am a player of instinct, I would like people to think that about me. I feel a little out of the box. Sometimes I try hard things, just for the sake of seeing if I can ... maybe it's a bit risky, but I know that if I work hard, I will be able to improve. In general I prefer the serve and the forehand, the backhand for now I need to exchange and have more security.

What ITF ranking do you have? What tournaments have you played?
I am at number 58 ( 63, actually, ed ) and in front of me there will be a maximum of 5 or 6 boys of sixteen (there are in fact six class 2003 that precede him in the latest ranking update: numbers one and two Mochizuki and Rune, Damm, Kodat, Alcaraz and Medjedovic, ed ). I have played and won with everyone, except with a Spaniard who is not here, Carlos Alcaraz Garcia.
This year I played in Florence and in Santa Croce sull'Arno, but I was recovering from the injury and I didn't do my best. In Santa Croce, for example, my knee also hurt, but it was a passing fatigue, a consequence of the back injury. I also played Bonfiglio, while I skipped Prato and Salsomaggiore.

I heard that if you have to see a Nadal or Kyrgios match, you choose Kyrgios' ... and Federer?
Yes, I'm going to see Kyrgios! Federer… well, if there is, let's say I don't throw it away! Joking aside, I can only learn from every match I watch.

How are you doing here in the tournament? Have you seen the scoreboard?
To be honest, I never look at the scoreboard ... I don't want to be presumptuous eh (he seems to apologize), but I want to see how I feel when I go out on the pitch. Knowing how my opponent plays would certainly help me, but honestly it also puts some pressure on me and I want to play as free as possible. The night before the match, I see my teacher and we talk about him together, he tells me who my opponent will be and we set up the game.

Did your parents play tennis? Which club do you play for in Pesaro?
My dad played water polo at a good level. In Pesaro I play for TC Baratoff… it's a strange name I know, I think it refers to someone of the nobility, maybe a Count… I don't know, I don't remember the name!
https://www.ubitennis.com/blog/2020/08/23/luca-nardi-bisogna-lavorare-per-migliorare-ogni-giorno-cosi-si-sale-di-livello/

Luca, I ask you the "classic" question of this period. What was it like to resume at a competitive level after the lockdown? Did you find any differences or was it easy enough?
Although I managed to train during the lockdown ( Nardi was immediately in the list of athletes authorized to train by Federtennis, ed ) and therefore I was almost never stopped, certainly from a competitive point of view not playing games for so many months changes. And in fact in Perugia and Todi I struggled a bit at the beginning, I lacked that competitive spirit that you find in just doing tournaments. But already now, after having played these first matches, it is much better.
Luca Nardi - Challenger from Trieste (photo: Ilvio Vidovich)
Your plans? Unfortunately this has been a bit of a strange year…
Next week I'm going to Cordenons, there is another Challenger where I will have a wild card for the main draw. I don't know if I will play the Challengers in September and October, maybe if they will give me some wild cards ... Then before the winter preparation I think I will play Futures, 15K and 25K, but I have to talk to my coach ( at the moment he is followed by Claudio Galoppini , former coach of Paolo Lorenzi, ed ).
What are your goals in this period, intended for the end of this year and next? Are they exclusively about growth in the game or maybe even already ranking?
Absolutely gaming only. I am still very young, so with my coach we are confidently aiming to improve every day in order to be able to play tournaments of a certain level and matches of a certain level. And so you always have to work.
 
Biggest win of Sinner's career so far follows Musetti's biggest win yesterday. Impressive kick serve made Tsitsipas uncomfortable, pace off both wings and deep returns took time away from the top tenner. He looked every bit as good as the Greek, proving once and for all that Roman Gods>Greek Gods.:cool:

The greatest age of male Italian tennis since the seventies is nigh; ye have been warned, evacuate your homes while there is still time.

 
Cocciaretto was **** against Begu but never mind; her name still sounds like a great renaissance painter. I believe she can reach top 30 with hard work, but she is quite small and lightweight sometimes, esp. on the serve. A hard worker with passion and feisty, she will develop later like some of the other Italian girls. She's more in the Giorgi mould than the Schiavone/Vinci mould from what I've seen. Maybe she doesn't quite have the volleys of Penetta/Errani yet either.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
i definitely liked that single hander taking out wawrinka yesterday but we have to see how they fare over a full season or two.........medvedev appears to be losing wheels at times just at 24........i feel like money is killing the sport.........some tennis players from european villages are pretty much satisfied with the first round prize money at slams, happy to collect their checks and get onto social media for fun until the next slam.........
 

SonnyT

Professional
Most of them seem pretty solid players, unlike those goofy Frenchmen!

They should win the most Davis and ATP Cups of any nation in the next 10 years. BTW, I'm accustomed to rooting for Forza Italia! I've always rooted for them in World Cup and Formula 1, so very lean years for me recently!
 
Melania Delai had a good win recently against Nao Hibino, currently ranked 68, in Rome qualifiers. She is only 17, quick good scrambler, solid off both wings, decent defensively but don't see a big weapon. Reminds me of Amanda Coetzer a little.

Zeppieri had a good result in Rome qualifiers beating Cameron Norrie, probably his biggest win. He has a nice backhand slice for an 18 year-old.

Here are some in person interviews, from a channel called Behind The Athlete.

 
I absolutely adore this guy! More variety and fun to watch than ANY of the next gens. Can't wait to see how his game will translate to grass next year:
You had your chance to jump on the bandwagon at the beginning of the thread like everyone else.:p

Too late now-The Italian Stallion, @stringertom, @Nole14_15NoPressure and @Baseline_Bungle are sailing off into the sunset with MusettiGOAT and the Sinnerman.:cool:

The rest of you can support Slashcha Zverev and Mishitssipas.*


* Or if you need your Italian Stallion fix...Cecchinato.:X3:
 
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Koepfer is killing all the giants-Simon, De Minaur, Monfils and now Musetti. He barely played tennis before the age of 16. KoepferGOAT?

Musetti had more breakpoint chances in the first set but Koepfer, solid throughout, came up with good serves and point construction.

A lot of ill-timed dropshots reminiscent of Murray when he was younger, the Italian was out-muscled from the baseline.

An experienced head, the German knew that if he just kept the ball in play, the youngster would lose patience; some verbal, slightly intimidatory outbursts too let Musetti know he was in a proper match, not playing Nishisameoldstory or Tankrinka.

This is just the beginning, even if he reaches the level of a Gasquet, and falls short of greatness, the future is bright blue.
 

DSH

Legend
Koepfer is killing all the giants-Simon, De Minaur, Monfils and now Musetti. He barely played tennis before the age of 16. KoepferGOAT?

Musetti had more breakpoint chances in the first set but Koepfer, solid throughout, came up with good serves and point construction.

A lot of ill-timed dropshots reminiscent of Murray when he was younger, the Italian was out-muscled from the baseline.

An experienced head, the German knew that if he just kept the ball in play, the youngster would lose patience; some verbal, slightly intimidatory outbursts too let Musetti know he was in a proper match, not playing Nishisameoldstory or Tankrinka.

This is just the beginning, even if he reaches the level of a Gasquet, and falls short of greatness, the future is bright blue.
Italian Stallion, dove sei stato in questi mesi?
;)
Che dire della performance di Sinner e Musetti; Inoltre, pensi che Berrettini possa raggiungere la sua prima finale del Masters 1000 nientemeno che nella sua città natale, Roma?
:unsure:
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Sinner looks like the best talent of them all, but these guys are still too young and I would just keep an eye on them and see how they progress in the next few years. We've seen so many talents who were supposed to be next Federers, Nadals and Djokovics but never fulfilled the promises.
 

James P

Hall of Fame
The French has a freed up wild card to the quallies. Sure would be sweet if they extended it out to Musetti (doubtful, but a guy could wish)...
 
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