The GOAT of each country

[vive le beau jeu !]

Yeah, Arazi is probably one of my top 10 favorite players of all time, really fun to watch. But El Aynaoui had the better career, 5 ATP titles to Arazi's 1, and career high ranking of #14 compared to #22 for Hicham.

And Istomin is clearly the Uzbek GOAT.

What about Hungary? I'm pretty sure Balazs Taroczy was at least top 20 back in the early 80s. Don't remember anyone else that's notable...

ah yes right, the guy who won the same tournament i don't know how many times !

• what about mark knowles for the bahamas ?
• komlavi loglo, from togo, was invited to the 2008 olympics
• clement n'goran, for ivory coast ? (i remember this guy played goran in davis cup !)
• benjamin balleret (or now jean-rene lisnard ?) for monaco
• predrag rusevski for macedonia

 

[vbranis]

ah yes right, the guy who won the same tournament i don't know how many times !

• what about mark knowles for the bahamas ?
• komlavi loglo, from togo, was invited to the 2008 olympics
• clement n'goran, for ivory coast ? (i remember this guy played goran in davis cup !)
• benjamin balleret (or now jean-rene lisnard ?) for monaco
• predrag rusevski for macedonia

Good ones, thanks.

 

[pc1]

Other choices for the United States would be Bill Tilden, Pancho Gonzalez among others. A lot of people think Don Budge was the GOAT.

Both Tilden and Gonzalez were number one in the world for years and Tilden was virtually unbeatable in the 1920's.

 

[Gizo]

Yes I would agree with Taroczy for Hungary. 20 singles titles speaks for itself.
Istvan Gulyas was the runner-up at the French Open in 1966, while Taroczy never reached a grand slam semi-final, although there is little information about Gulyas's other achievements, especially with most of his success coming before the open era.

Lisnard switched back and forth between French and Monegasque nationalities, before sticking with Monaco during the last few years. He would have to be the clear choice for Monaco as he has had quite a bit more success than Balleret.

Bulgaria - Already Dmitrov probably. He still hasn't cracked the top 250, but he has an ATP win over Berdych at Rotterdam this year, and he played in the main draw at Wimbledon in 2009. Not to mention he had a lot of success as a junior.

Nigeria - Nduka Odizor - He won a singles title and broke into the top 60 during the 80s.

Philippines - Felicisimo Ampon - Twice a quarter-finalist at the French Open during the 50s. Represented his country at the Davis Cup for nearly 30 years.

 

[Gizo]

Kuwait - Mohammad Ghareeb - He gets a wildcard into the Dubai tournament every year. He gave Federer a scare in 2006 when he served for the opening set, and he has won sets against Berdych and Simon since then.

 

[urban]

Hungarian Taroscy won Hilversum 5 or 6 times. Istvan Gulyas was a tough grinder, who had some success on European clay. Maybe we could chose between players, who actually played for at least two countries. Like Roderich Menzel, Bob Hewitt, Martino Mulligano or The Fletch Ken Fletcher, who played for Hongkong. Must be the best player from Hongkong.

 

[Bossy]

S.A.: Wayne Ferreria?

Too bad Rudeski left Canada for G.B.

Johan Kriek maybe?

 

[obsessedtennisfandisorder]

Johan Kriek maybe?

I voted for curran..but south africa is a good country to study here..i'm sure they had some decent players pre-open era..and begin of 70's.

Moose or krosero might inform us of the 1974 davis cup situation..where india lsot by default because of some politico situation...sa must have had some decent player then to reach the final.

I just think curren career trumps kriek...but that's a debate obviously.

 

[urban]

Sturgess is the most successful SA player from the early 50s.

 

[newmark401]

Re Hungarian tennis players, this is from wikipedia:

"József Asbóth (September 18, 1917, Szombathely - September 22, 1986, [Munich]) was a Hungarian male tennis player, best remembered for being the first Hungarian tennis player to win a Grand Slam singles title, at the 1947 Roland Garros French Open. He reached the semi-finals at Wimbledon in 1948. In 1941 he was a member of the Hungarian team that won the Central European Cup. After his professional career he became responsible for the next generation of tennis players at the Belgian Tennis Federation. He later became a trainer in Munich.

"His Davis Cup record was 24 wins and 17 losses. In 1993 a street was named after Asbóth in Szombathely, the city where he was born."

Other top-class Hungarian players included Béla von Kehrling, who played before and after the First World War (he won the German Championships in 1924) and Otto Szigeti, who played circa the 1930s.

 

[jaggy]

Interesting use of United Kingdom as they play tennis as Great Britain. I think also an open-era list may be good and even an American list by state.

 

[Gizo]

Good call on Asboth for Hungary.

China - Bing Pan - He cracked the top 200 in the 90s, and I don't think any other Chinese male players have emulated that feat although I could be wrong. China has been a powerhouse in women's tennis over the past decade, although they haven't had much success in men's tennis.

Indonesia - Suwandi Suwandi - Like China, Indonesia has had considerably more success in the women's game. Suwandi reached the top 250 in the rankings and is their most successful Davis Cup player by far.

 

[newmark401]

“Interesting use of United Kingdom as they play tennis as Great Britain.”

That would be impossible because, as you probably know, the United Kingdom is made up of Great Britain (three countries: England, Scotland, Wales) and one province – Ulster (aka Northern Ireland) – so anyone from those four places is British as well as being either English or Scottish or Welsh or Irish.

In theory, any British tennis player could play tennis for any of those four entities, but in reality it doesn’t work out like that, especially given national identities. However, anyone born in Northern Ireland would not have much difficulty if he or she wanted to play the Republic of Ireland, although the Republic is not part of the United Kingdom. But that’s another story.

 

[Bossy]

I voted for curran..but south africa is a good country to study here..i'm sure they had some decent players pre-open era..and begin of 70's.

Moose or krosero might inform us of the 1974 davis cup situation..where india lsot by default because of some politico situation...sa must have had some decent player then to reach the final.

I just think curren career trumps kriek...but that's a debate obviously.

Curren won only 5 titles for some reason and Kriek 14. Kriek also made the semi-finals at Roland Garros. Curren did nothing on clay.
Curren on the other hand made the Australian Open final after 1982 when it became more prestigious and of course the Wimbledon final.
Bob Hewitt and Cliff Drysdale are some other good players.

 

[mtr1]

Interesting use of United Kingdom as they play tennis as Great Britain. I think also an open-era list may be good and even an American list by state.

I think a US list by state would be a good idea, but being English, I wouldn't know where to start

 

[Deleted member 21996]

great ones, M. !
how could i forget mansour ?!...

arazi is my favorite morocan player... but it's debatable, between him and al aynaoui, isn't it ?...

for uzbekistan, i suppose itsomin is already GOAT ?

Absolutely Erwan. it's a toss up between Arazi and Younes. someone could shed a light in this..

anyone?

 

[Gizo]

Younes and Arazi are two of my favourite players of all time. They were both incredibly gifted all court players and wizards with a racket.

They both have similar grand slam records, reaching 4 quarter-finals but no semi-finals. Arazi has a slightly better masters series record, reaching the final at Monte-Carlo 2000, while Younes's best result was a semi-final showing at Madrid in 2003.

The big difference is that Younes won 5 titles and Arazi won just 1. Younes was also a runner-up 11 times while Arazi only reached 2 more finals.
Younes reached no. 14 in the rankings and spent quite a bit of time in the top 20, while Arazi's highest ranking was no. 22.

Arazi was the more naturally talented player out of the two, although of course he was incredibly lazy. However in terms of accomplishments I would definately give the edge to Younes.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

sounds a fair analisys..

 

[TennisManNow]

Hello from Reynaldo Garrido

Hello Gizo: Thank you for remembering me, Reynaldo Garrido. Are you Cuban? Gizo is a word we use. It was great to see me mentioned and remembered on this thread and site! I need to ask you and anyone else out there a favor. I have only a small newspaper clipping from Cuba from the time that I played and won the Canadian Open. Does anyone know of any way to search or find ANY pictures, photos or movies from that Canadian Open in 1959? I have been scouring the net for years but cant find anything. It would be really nice to find. All I have is an old newspaper clipping that has a photo from the AP. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please email me if you want at: mister_logan5@yahoo.com.

Regards,
Reynaldo Garrido

I echo people's sentiments that this is a really fun thread. It will be interesting to see how many countries we can cover here.

Cuba - Reynaldo Garrido - He won the Canadian Open in 1959, beating his brother.

Dominican Republic - Victor Estrella - He qualified for Cincinnati in 2008.

El Salvador - Rafael Arevalo - He was invited to the Olympics in 2008, beating HT Lee and losing to Federer.

Puerto Rico - Charlie Passarell is clearly the greatest male player to be born there. Of course he is well know for playing in the longest match in Wimbledon history against Pancho Gonzales in 1969. He represented the USA during his career, and I think Puerto Rico didn't have their own tennis federation or Davis Cup team until the 90s I think. Since players have been able to play under the Puerto Rican flag, Juan Rios has been the most successful player.

 

[VrafaV]

I say ellis ferreira for S.A.

 

[newmark401]

Re: Ireland

Try the following:

Joshua Pim: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=4006688

Willoughby J. Hamilton: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=302342

Harold Mahony: http://grandslamtennis.freeukisp.co.uk/HAROLD MAHONY.htm

James Cecil Parke: http://www.scrum.com/ireland/rugby/story/90163.html

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

in nishikori's interview on wimbledon website (after his disappointing loss), they mention 'Jiro Sato', a japanese player who would have been ranked #3 in the 30's (but what about world rankings in that time... "English critic of The Daily Telegraph" ?):
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2010-06-22/201006221277230189735.html

there's also a wikipedia article on him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiro_Sato

this would make him even better than matsuoka...
unfortunately, he ended sadly :?

Jiro Sato (jap. 佐藤 次郎 Satō Jirō, January 5, 1908 in present-day Shibukawa, Gunma Prefecture - April 5, 1934 in Strait of Malacca) was a former tennis player from Japan. He graduated from Waseda University. He was ranked World No.3 in 1933, but committed suicide in Strait of Malacca during his trip to Davis Cup 1934.

He was ranked World No.3 by an English critic of The Daily Telegraph.
(Ranked No.1: Jack Crawford, No.2: Fred Perry)

 

[JustBob]

Canada: Daniel Nestor

The only thing Michibata has over Nestor is a slightly better singles ranking. Nestor's achievements in doubles dwarf Michibata's resume. In fact, he's one of the best doubles players of all time.

Glenn Michibata:

Highest singles ranking: 48 (1986)
Singles record: 72-113

Highest doubles ranking: 5 (1991)
Doubles record: 4 titles, best results are FO and Wimbledon semi (with Grant Connell) in 1991

Daniel Nestor:

Highest singles ranking: 58 (1999)
Singles record: 85-118 (He has beaten 6 #1 players in his singles career: Agassi, Edberg, Rios, Kuerten, Muster and Rafter)

Highest doubles ranking: 1 (2002)
Doubles record: 69 titles (736-282), Olympic Gold, Tennis Masters Cup, 6 slams (1 AO, 2 FO, 2 Wimby, 1 USO)

His 69 doubles titles makes him the most decorated champion active and he is the only player in tennis history to have won all the Grand Slams and Masters Series events at least once.

 

[newmark401]

Some more Japanese players, in addition to Jiro Sato[h]:

Zenzo Shimizu reached the All-Comers’ Final at Wimbledon in 1920, losing 6-4, 6-4, 13-11 to Bill Tilden, who went on to beat Gerald Patterson in the Challenge Round. Shimizu reached the semi-finals at Wimbledon the following year, and the quarter-finals at the US Championships in 1922.
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Ichiya Kumagae reached the semi-finals at the US Champs in 1918. He had won the prestigious Newport (USA) singles title in 1916, beating Bill Johnston, the reigning US singles champion, 9-7 in the fifth set of the final.
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Takeichi Harada, Seiichiro Kashio and Hyotare Satoh were some of the other Japanese players who enjoyed some success on the international stage during the first half of the twentieth century.
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Tatsuyoshi "Ryuki" Miki won the mixed doubles title at Wimbledon in 1934 with Britain's Dorothy Round, beating the British pairing of Henry "Bunny" Austin and Dorothy Shepherd-Barron in the final, 3-6, 6-4, 6-0. This appears to be the only title ever won by a Japanese player at one of the four majors.
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[newmark401]

Here are some other good, early Canadian players:

Charles S. Hyman was an early winner of the Canadian Championships, way back in the late 1880s.
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Robert Matthews was another early winner of his native Canadian Championships; in 1894, he scored a notable five-set Challenge Round victory at this tournament over the holder, Harold Avery, of the United States.
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James F. Foulkes won the singles title at the Pacific Northwest Championships, in the United States, at least four times: in 1892, 1894, 1895 and 1897. According to "wikipedia", in 1913, Foulkes was a member of the Canadian Davis Cup team that reached the final round of the preliminary tournament held to decide who would face the British Isles, the holders of the trophy, in the Challenge Round tie. (Canada lost in the final round to the United States in what Canada’s first time taking part in the Davis Cup competition.)

Also according to "wikipedia", the other members of the Canadian Davis Cup team in 1913 were Robert B. Powell, Bruno Schwengers and Henry Mayes. Powell and Schwengers, respectively, lost the first two singles against the United States during the above-mentioned 1913 Davis Cup tie and, together, lost the doubles and, effectively, the tie.

Robert B. Powell enjoyed some success in European tennis tournaments in the years before the First World War. He was killed in action in France in 1917 at the age of 36.
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[slice bh compliment]

Hai.
Sato was good...especially good in Karate Kid II (in Okinawa, Miyagi's hometown). Who can forget his gravelly voice?

But Shimizu (mentioned very early in this thread) was the forefather of the extreme western grip.

He was the king of top,
there was none higher.
Berasategui can call him Sire.

 

[cork_screw]

For some reason people here really need to fit GOAT somewhere in their threads, whether it needs to be there or not. Let's forget about GOAT for a second.

 

[jamesblakefan#1]

What about Seles for Serbia? I know she became American, but a majority of her success came when she was a part of Yugoslavia (even though it wasn't Serbia at the time).

Also Jamaica - Dustin Brown (first Jamaican top 100).
China - Na Li

 

[kiki]

Great list Slice. How about Pancho Segura for Ecuador and Andres Gimeno for Spain?

Yannick Noah for Greenwich Village in New York since he lived there in the 1980's.

Rod Laver for California.

Jimmy Connors for Illinois, and John mc Enroe for Queen´s, while Gerulaitis is king of Staten Island

 

[kiki]

Wojtek Fibak, Poland and Asboth/Taroczy/Guylas for Hungary.Nasty for Rumania and....Wekesa for Kenya.

 

[slice bh compliment]

Jimmy Connors for Illinois, and John mc Enroe for Queen´s, while Gerulaitis is king of Staten Island

Johnny Mac, King of Queens.....
Hahha, but Vitas is really the king of King's Point. L.I.
while on the monarch theme...
Kathy Jordan for Queen of King of Prussia, PA.

 

[slice bh compliment]

I think a US list by state would be a good idea, but being English, I wouldn't know where to start

Cool idea. I'll start you off....closest to you on the east coast, then we can work our way west.

Maine
New Hampshire
Vermont
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Connecticut
New York
Nueva Jersey
Pennsylvania
Delaware
Maryland
The District of Columbia
Virginia
West Virginia
Ohio
Indiana
Illinois
Michigan
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri
Arkansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Alabama
Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
North Carolina
Tennessee
Kentucky
Texas
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
North Dakota
South Dakota
Montana
Wyoming
Colorado
New Mexico
Utah
Nevada
Arizona
California
Oregon
Washington
Idaho
Alaska
Hawaii
Puerto Rico
Guam
US Virgin Islands
Some Territories?

 

[NLBwell]

Buttoned up tennis announcer Cliff Drysdale was the best for South Africa. Wildman Torben Ulrich for Denmark. Ulrich played the tour into his 40's. He is a writer, musician, filmmaker and appeared with Nirvana (according to Wiki).
They were doubles partners.

 

[kiki]

Johnny Mac, King of Queens.....
Hahha, but Vitas is really the king of King's Point. L.I.
while on the monarch theme...
Kathy Jordan for Queen of King of Prussia, PA.

Vitas was more the king of Studio 54, Xenon,Tramps and Limelights as far as I remember.

¿What about Jim Courier, the Emperor of Dade County ?

 

[kiki]

Buttoned up tennis announcer Cliff Drysdale was the best for South Africa. Wildman Torben Ulrich for Denmark. Ulrich played the tour into his 40's. He is a writer, musician, filmmaker and appeared with Nirvana (according to Wiki).
They were doubles partners.

Big Kurt Nielsen, a Wimbledon runner up, is generally regarded as the best Danish ever.

 

[World Beater]

I'm the GOAT of my House.

 

[kishnabe]

Canada: Raonic

 

[kishnabe]

Here are some other good, early Canadian players:

Charles S. Hyman was an early winner of the Canadian Championships, way back in the late 1880s.
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Robert Matthews was another early winner of his native Canadian Championships; in 1894, he scored a notable five-set Challenge Round victory at this tournament over the holder, Harold Avery, of the United States.
-----

James F. Foulkes won the singles title at the Pacific Northwest Championships, in the United States, at least four times: in 1892, 1894, 1895 and 1897. According to "wikipedia", in 1913, Foulkes was a member of the Canadian Davis Cup team that reached the final round of the preliminary tournament held to decide who would face the British Isles, the holders of the trophy, in the Challenge Round tie. (Canada lost in the final round to the United States in what Canada’s first time taking part in the Davis Cup competition.)

Also according to "wikipedia", the other members of the Canadian Davis Cup team in 1913 were Robert B. Powell, Bruno Schwengers and Henry Mayes. Powell and Schwengers, respectively, lost the first two singles against the United States during the above-mentioned 1913 Davis Cup tie and, together, lost the doubles and, effectively, the tie.

Robert B. Powell enjoyed some success in European tennis tournaments in the years before the First World War. He was killed in action in France in 1917 at the age of 36.
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Hellmuth....U.S Open Runner up 1880!

 

[kiki]

Why canadians only produce doubles players? like Nestor,Laureau,Connell or Michibata? something surprising to me, given the pretty high level of athletes coming up from Canada in other sports.With their conditions, they should have had plenty of great indoor tennis ( like Russia or Czeck Republic)

 

[ClarkC]

There is only one GOAT- Roger be thy name

Why would you make such a moronic post that is irrelevant to the stated purposed of the thread? I think Federer is probably GOAT but this thread is about something else.

 

[pundekman]

Peter Handoyo!!?? you gotta be kidding...He is waaaay down that list in Indonesia

And the Junio Bros??? they played somewhere in San Diego isn;t it? Some spoilt kids if I remember correctly. There are way more playa over there before you mention their names

Cool thread vbranis! Off the top of my head, here are a few honorable mentions, preferences, contenders and additions.....


Italy's all-time great Davis Cupper: Nicola Pietrangeli

Croatia: toss-up. Nikki Pilic and Goran Ivanisevic. Pilic as a member of the handsome 8 and as a coach/mentor. Goran gets my vote, though.

Ecuador: Andres Gomez, the 1990 Roland Garros Champion.

Mexico, honorable mention: Raul Ramirez

New Zealand: Chris Lewis, once a Wimbledon finalist in men's singles

Bulgaria: The Maleeva sisters

USA: I'm with you on Sampras, but we'd have to at least mention Budge, Tilden, Kramer and Gonzales

Canada: Carling Bassett wins the cute girl player award. In men's dubs... Glenn Michibata

Indonesia: Yayuk Basuki and Peter Handoyo (played for Univ. of Tennessee in the late 90s)

Georgia (Caucasus Mtns, not Bulldogs): Nino Louarsabishvili, though Alex Metreveli and Teimuraz Gabashvili have represented Russia well.

Madagascar: Dally Randriantefy

Japan: Zenzo Shimizu, Shuzo Matsuoka, Kimiko Date-Krumm, Ai Sugiyama, Noriyuki "Pat" Morita

Chile: Marcelo Rios

Serbia: Nole, NoleNoleNole....NOLE, No-Le. Well, my vote is for Slobodan Zivojinovic, actually, 'cause Nole's second serve is such a liability. So is his character. Little twit.

Prussia: Kathy Jordan, who hails from the town of King of Prussia, Pennsylvania

The Phillippine Islands: Cecil Mamiit. The Junio brothers? Mid 90's college tennis, yeah.

Brazil: as much as I love Guga, I've got to go with Maria Bueno

South Africa: Gavin Forbes, 'cause he wrote that book, A Handful of Summers. Oh, yeah, and Johan Kriek. And that skinny guy who beat Mac and Connors at Wimbledon, then lost to a 17 yr old kid in the final. He's the one who wanted to blow up the USTA NTC in Flushing. Cliffy Drysdale would have won this if he just hadn't worn that prissy little golf glove.

India: Ramanathan Krishnan, the father of Ramesh Krishnan, affectionately known the world over as 'Krish'.

Pakistan: Mahboob Khan, for his notoriety here at the TW and his famous last name, both in history and in squash, the other-other racquet sport.

Scotland: Mike Myers as Scotland Yard's very own 'Fat B@stard' slipped Andy Murray a mickey and made off with the trophy.

Holland: Tom Okker, partially because Krajicek sounds so Czech, but also because Okker's nickname is the Flying Dutchman....and not everyone can play dubs with Ilie Nastase.

Belguim: Filip DeWulf or Xavier Malisse? Justine Henin or Aussie Kim? My vote is for Juiced-teen.

Louisiana: Donni Leaycraft.

Nigeria: Nduka Odizor

Cameroun: Yannick Noah, only because there are a couple of guys ahead of him on the France list.

Egypt: Ismael El Shafei anyone? Anyone?

Cyprus: Marcos Baghdatis

Lebanon: Marcos Baghdatis

Uruguay: Marcelo Filipini

Paraguay: Hugo Chapacu

Bahamas: Mark Knowles. Kidding, everyone knows the Bahamian GOAT is Roger Smith.

Bermuda: One-time resident, Patrick Rafter.

Monte Carlo: Boris Becker

Luxembourg: Gilles Muller

Moldova: Ion Moldovan, who is actually a Romanian, but, come on, that last name screams GOAT of Moldova.

Kazakhstan: Elena Likhovtseva. Borat like. Eh very niice.

Dutch Antilles: Jean Julien Roger. ANd, HOW exactly did you miss this one?

Appalachia: Roscoe Tanner

Zimbabwe: The good money is on Byron Black, but I'm voting for former NCAA no. 1, Genius Chidzikwe. There's no denying a man named Genius. The son of a man named Clever.

Belarus: The Minx from Misk - Natalia (Natasha) Zvereva. Max Mirnyi, too. They must really GET dubs strategy in that country.

Brooklyn, New York: Max Mirnyi

Armenia: Sargis the Sarge Sargsian

Vermont: Bode Miller. Okay, now I'm rambling. Vermont isn't its own country. Yet.

 

[slice bh compliment]

Peter Handoyo!!?? you gotta be kidding...He is waaaay down that list in Indonesia

And the Junio Bros??? they played somewhere in San Diego isn;t it? Some spoilt kids if I remember correctly. There are way more playa over there before you mention their names

Cool. I am American, and though I've traveled a lot (and played a lot of tennis in other countries), I have not been to Indonesia or the Philippoine Islands. Those are the names of the college players I've seen who have represented Indonesia and the Philippine Islands in Davis Cup.

You must have lots of great players. Rather than saying what poor choices I have listed, why don't you list the names of the players way above them so you can contribute to this thread?

Oh, and I'm sure you also have incredible playas over there. I here the beaches are really great.

 

[hoodjem]

There is only one GOAT- Roger be thy name

Why would you make such a moronic post that is irrelevant to the stated purposed of the thread? I think Federer is probably GOAT but this thread is about something else.

You got it: these Fed-worshippers (Fedementalists) exhibit all the traits of blind unquestioning worship, total doctrinaire obedience, suspension of disbelief--and thus fit the definition.

 

[kiki]

You got it: these Fed-worshippers (Fedementalists) exhibit all the traits of blind unquestioning worship, total doctrinaire obedience, suspension of disbelief--and thus fit the definition.

They´ll probably commit massive suicide when their worshipped idol orders so, after his retirement.

 

[Bobby Jr]

by the way..lewis is a fine choice for NZ, but actually many believe onny parun career is a greater piece of work.
Just remember Anthony Wilding(4 time winby chanp) is NZer, but thats going a long way back.

Brian Fairlie was a greater piece of work than Lewis also.. He was in the top 50 for a number of years and had wins over some greats in the 70s.

 

[slice bh compliment]

Brian Fairlie was a greater piece of work than Lewis also.. He was in the top 50 for a number of years and had wins over some greats in the 70s.

Yes, and I liked his work with Roxy Music, especially on Avalon.

 

[Bobby Jr]

Yes, and I liked his work with Roxy Music, especially on Avalon.

Gold. :lol:

Bryan Ferry - Roxy Music

Brian Fairlie - tennis player

 

[kiki]

Brian Fairlie was a greater piece of work than Lewis also.. He was in the top 50 for a number of years and had wins over some greats in the 70s.

Parun was a better grass courter than Lewis, who was under non repeated form at the 1983 Wimbly.But Lewis had generally better results on clay and hard.

 

[sureshs]

India - V. Amritraj

Zeeshan Ali (ksbh)

 

[newmark401]

The island of Ireland has produced three winners of the men's singles title at Wimbledon, whom I'd rank as follows:

1. Joshua Pim (1869-1942; Wimbledon singles champion in 1893 and 1894)
2. Willoughby J. Hamilton (1864-1943; Wimbledon singles champion in 1890)
3. Harold Mahony (1867-1905; Wimbledon singles champion in 1896)

James Cecil Parke, winner of the singles title at the 1912 Australasian Championships, was also another world-class Irish tennis player who, like the three men named above, also excelled at several other sports.