The gut/poly thread

The 4g isn't too harsh? I've hit with 4g hybrids and full bed. It hurts lol. That's why I was thinking 4g soft. But maybe with the gut 4g would be nice. Also never hit with tourna, isnt that a cheap string to throw in with gut?
 
So if I use Klip legend in the mains at 60, are you saying that I should up my cross tension (Cream) closer to the tension of the mains? If I used cream only, I would probably string around 52 lbs. I play the ported tour 100 18/20's by the way. Or, are you saying that I should bring the gut down to like 55 and then string the cream at 55 too? I have a pretty big differential at 60 53 rght now. I would love for my beds to last as long as possible and play well. Help me understand the tension thing. Much appreciated.
 
The 4g isn't too harsh? I've hit with 4g hybrids and full bed. It hurts lol. That's why I was thinking 4g soft. But maybe with the gut 4g would be nice. Also never hit with tourna, isnt that a cheap string to throw in with gut?
I felt 4G was too stiff even as cross with gut mains.

Black Zone is a good recommendation. Also I like Poly Tour Fire. Both are slick which is want you want for spin and to help with durability.

I also like Poly Tour Pro but broke strings way too fast with it. Basically the Fire is similar just slicker.
 
Yes it does. I think I will try one at like 58 klip and 55 cream. Or maybe 57/54. I was afraid of the gut being too powerful at that tension. I did not think of the poly taming it at a little higher tension. I guess you can combine the stiffness ratings and the gut should be soft enough to keep the poly from hurting me if it is a little tighter. I will try it.
 
Those looking for more lively string beds should really look at Tier One Ghostwire in the crosses. It's soft as cream but doesn't notch like Cream and is a bit more slippery allowing for more spin. Also comes in a wider array of gauges. Tension maintenance has been good even with a 19g string in my 93P.

Really impressed.

My wife also is a big fan of their multi Triumph. Feels very gut like .
 
Anyone here have any experience with Grapplesnake Irukandji? I have a set coming, and want to try it as a cross with some Luxilon Gut I bought on holiday sale.

If you’re not familiar, it’s a soft rectangular string with rounded edges, designed to give maximum surface area to prevent notching of your main strings.

Curious if it lives up to the promise...


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Anyone here have any experience with Grapplesnake Irukandji? I have a set coming, and want to try it as a cross with some Luxilon Gut I bought on holiday sale.

If you’re not familiar, it’s a soft rectangular string with rounded edges, designed to give maximum surface area to prevent notching of your main strings.

Curious if it lives up to the promise...


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I've been playing with that setup in a Graphene 360 Speed Pro. Lux Gut mains (55lbs) and Irukandji crosses (52lbs). It plays very nicely but I've not noticed much of a difference (or any at all) between it and other soft polys in spin or "spin potential" as Grapplesnake claims. Irukandji is an economically priced soft poly that I will not hesitate to use again. I did not find it revolutionary, however.
 
I've been playing with that setup in a Graphene 360 Speed Pro. Lux Gut mains (55lbs) and Irukandji crosses (52lbs). It plays very nicely but I've not noticed much of a difference (or any at all) between it and other soft polys in spin or "spin potential" as Grapplesnake claims. Irukandji is an economically priced soft poly that I will not hesitate to use again. I did not find it revolutionary, however.
How about longer life and movement of the Gut? I think the idea of the string is to prevent notching, so the Gut mains wont fray as easily, and will be free to move/snap back.


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I do not feel the gut mains moving any more (or any less) than with any other poly I’ve used. However, my experience so far is that there is less notching in the gut mains with Irukandji so Grapplesnake’s claim is accurate in that regard.
 
Anyone have experience with Babolat vs. Touch + Babolat RPM Blast? I put Touch in the mains and RPM Blast in crosses at 54/51, but I'm wondering if this is a good combination.
 
Anyone have experience with Babolat vs. Touch + Babolat RPM Blast? I put Touch in the mains and RPM Blast in crosses at 54/51, but I'm wondering if this is a good combination.
I remember doing that in a PD+ and shredding the gut in a few hours. Moved to 4G and got better string life.
I avoid shaped poly in the crosses for that reason.
 
VS Touch/RPM Blast 17 is probably my favorite combination, followed by 4G Soft. The RPM Blast combination lasts longer for me and is easier on my wrist, which is why I prefer it. Tensions I use on the RF97 ranges from 57/54 to 55/53.
 
I remember doing that in a PD+ and shredding the gut in a few hours. Moved to 4G and got better string life.
I avoid shaped poly in the crosses for that reason.
Thanks for the input. I haven't had a chance to place with them yet but I'm a big non-string breaker so they may last me longer, but if they get frayed quickly I'll try out the 4G combo like you said.

VS Touch/RPM Blast 17 is probably my favorite combination, followed by 4G Soft. The RPM Blast combination lasts longer for me and is easier on my wrist, which is why I prefer it. Tensions I use on the RF97 ranges from 57/54 to 55/53.
Looks like I managed to find a great combo by luck then. I'm coincidentally having some wrist issues lately too so while I know this won't exactly cure them it may take some strain off.
 
I recently started experimenting with gut/poly hybrids and am a bit confused on how to select the most appropriate poly.

My understanding is that using a slick / smooth poly as the cross allows the mains to snap back easily, generating more spin. What if a very textured poly is used instead? Would you have less spin due the the mains not sliding as much? Or would you have more spin due to the increase in spin when going from a round to shaped poly (despite the smaller contribution of the crosses to the overall playing characteristics)?

Would it depend on your swing? The only times I consistently hear snapback (using 4G as cross) is on spinner serves. My swings are flatter/old school although I'm trying to "modernize" them. Should I be sticking with the textured crosses since I don't brush enough to get consistent snapback on my groundstrokes?

Thanks for the advice!
 
Tried my first hybrid string setup ever and I gotta say it was amazing. I used Luxilon Alu Power 16L in the mains @55lbs and Alu Natural Gut 16L in the crosses also @55lbs. I was a little intimidated to try hybrid considering most of the pros use this set up. My first day I had a few control issues (hitting long, serve, etc) but I played effortlessly tonight, so much that I forgot about the hybrid setup. I’ve definitely found my formula and I look forward to what it does for my game.
 
I recently started experimenting with gut/poly hybrids and am a bit confused on how to select the most appropriate poly.

My understanding is that using a slick / smooth poly as the cross allows the mains to snap back easily, generating more spin. What if a very textured poly is used instead? Would you have less spin due the the mains not sliding as much? Or would you have more spin due to the increase in spin when going from a round to shaped poly (despite the smaller contribution of the crosses to the overall playing characteristics)?

Would it depend on your swing? The only times I consistently hear snapback (using 4G as cross) is on spinner serves. My swings are flatter/old school although I'm trying to "modernize" them. Should I be sticking with the textured crosses since I don't brush enough to get consistent snapback on my groundstrokes?

Thanks for the advice!
For most of us, as natural gut is so expensive and typically all of us plays until it breaks having a round slick poly with good tension maintence such as 4g, BBO, YPTP is beneficial as because it's round it doesn't cause the gut to notch on the textured surface of a string such as alu. Textured and shaped polys can dig and really saw through the NG, but with a round one you get much longer playability typically.

Personally I've been using 4g as a cross and for me I feel like ALU power would be much better, while 4g has good tension maintence it has very little bite and very stiff. Where as alu will compliment a gut hybrid as it has good bite, great ball pocketing.
 
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