The Head Extreme Pro just got an excellent review and nobody cares about...

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Extremes are great frames. If it plays like the IG version as Andy says,thats one of the highest rated playtests of all time.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
I feel like many people avoid it due to the head shape. Very popular racquet among the young crowd around here though.
 

Franklin_B

Semi-Pro
The unpopularity is mostly cosmetic from what I've noticed about this and the last version. The head shape (like SpinToWin said) and the paint colours seem to be more of an issue than the performance.
 

sma1001

Hall of Fame
I tested the IG version last year. I loved the free power, and the head shape promoted topspin due to the wide area to sweep across. I did find some discomfort however, despite claims that the grommets alleviated stiffness. Healthy arms would have much to enjoy with the extreme. For me i had to leave it as there was too much risk to my fragile elbow. Absent that the extreme might very well be in the bag.
 

Bartelby

Talk Tennis Guru
It's surprising how a tiny change to the length and width of the hoop makes it that much rounder when you compare it to the egg-shape of an aeropro.
 

JohnBPittsburgh

Hall of Fame
I have the IG Extreme MP and the Graphene Extreme Lite MP and I think they both play very well. I don't believe I have sensitive joints, and the IG is strung with Prince Syn Gut Orig, and the Lite is strung with some yellow poly (I forget, I didn't string it, it was an auction frame). But I don't find them harsh, and they do offer a lot of spin and power in my experiences with them. I have yet to see another one of them being used in my area. I agree the head shape is terminally unique ;)
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Honestly I think the PJ can make the egg shape look more pronounced.I don't think the new release is a different mold, and the play testers even commented on the head shape.

Going from my experience with Yonex frames, the egg shape could widen the spin window a fair amount and be very beneficial. As long as it doesn't bug you, it appears to provide an advantage for forgiveness to spin hitters. The shape bugged me a little in the past, but I don't play tennis as much now and the little things don't bug me one bit as long as I can win with the frame.

I have an IG coming today and Ill mess with it and review it. I used it when it came out and really liked it, but I was already into my Tec 315 so I didn't get to give the frame enough time.

What I like is that is pretty much weighted up how I'd weight up an APD, except the stock swing weight is a little higher and the balance is more HL as well. So if you want to add SW you can just add a few grams at the tip and it won't throw off the balance too much. Tougher to do that with an APD since they are already 4-5 points HL out of the gate.

The biggest question for me will be is if the frame is more power than I need or not. I will say this, it has a heck of a plush sweetspot for a tweener frame. One of those you don't forget the feeling of when you crank one with it right in the center.
 

RalphJ

Banned
There is no reason to use one of these racquets. There are just too many that are better. The Graphenes were just too messed up to even be considered usable, even though they looked the coolest. Plus, Gasquet is the only ATP Pro using this pj on his older radical. Head needs to discontinue this line.
 

DonDiego

Hall of Fame
Honestly I think the PJ can make the egg shape look more pronounced.I don't think the new release is a different mold, and the play testers even commented on the head shape.

Going from my experience with Yonex frames, the egg shape could widen the spin window a fair amount and be very beneficial. As long as it doesn't bug you, it appears to provide an advantage for forgiveness to spin hitters. The shape bugged me a little in the past, but I don't play tennis as much now and the little things don't bug me one bit as long as I can win with the frame.

I have an IG coming today and Ill mess with it and review it. I used it when it came out and really liked it, but I was already into my Tec 315 so I didn't get to give the frame enough time.

What I like is that is pretty much weighted up how I'd weight up an APD, except the stock swing weight is a little higher and the balance is more HL as well. So if you want to add SW you can just add a few grams at the tip and it won't throw off the balance too much. Tougher to do that with an APD since they are already 4-5 points HL out of the gate.

The biggest question for me will be is if the frame is more power than I need or not. I will say this, it has a heck of a plush sweetspot for a tweener frame. One of those you don't forget the feeling of when you crank one with it right in the center.
The IG Pro was way too powerful for my game. But I recently the Graphene ''Lite'' version and I was pleasantly surprised. The ''Lite'' is the only arm-friendly model of the line, having a flex of 63. It's way too light in stock form for an advanced player, but if you like to customize, it's a great platform.

I also love the Extremes' head shape. Very round like Prince classics, and the 16x19 string pattern is closed enough to give you top-notch control.

Anyone in the market for a 300g racquet (strung, with OG) should really try this one. It's similar to a Pure Drive Lite, but much better for your arm.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
There is no reason to use one of these racquets. There are just too many that are better. The Graphenes were just too messed up to even be considered usable, even though they looked the coolest. Plus, Gasquet is the only ATP Pro using this pj on his older radical. Head needs to discontinue this line.
LOl. You are comical man. These are the highest rated tweeners I have seen released. These frames have gotten raves from all types of players and sites. But since Ralph J can't get over Graphene and head "ruining the prestige", he has to troll every Head post now and whine about frames that he doesn't even use.

Sad. :(


The IG Pro was way too powerful for my game. But I recently the Graphene ''Lite'' version and I was pleasantly surprised. The ''Lite'' is the only arm-friendly model of the line, having a flex of 63. It's way too light in stock form for an advanced player, but if you like to customize, it's a great platform.

I also love the Extremes' head shape. Very round like Prince classics, and the 16x19 string pattern is closed enough to give you top-notch control.

Anyone in the market for a 300g racquet (strung, with OG) should really try this one. It's similar to a Pure Drive Lite, but much better for your arm.
Yeah the IG pro requires some good action on the ball to keep it in the lines. Ill see how it goes for me.
 

sma1001

Hall of Fame
I hit the Pro but confess i'd now be more interested in the MP. I think that's stiffer however but could be wrong about that. Interested to hear more on it.

PS: Comparison to the instinct xt would be good.
 

Gemini

Hall of Fame
It's interesting that almost all of Andy's Playsight numbers actually were down compared to his preferred racquet. I guess I would attribute that to possibly to a higher than usual tension to rein in some of the power.
 

RalphJ

Banned
Well, I tried the Graphene Extremes and they were weirdly bad. The IG 2.0 was head and shoulders above the Graphene version, but it was nowhere near as good as a Pure Drive, Pure Drive Roddick, or Aeropro IMO. Irregardless, I have some serious reluctance to believe that Head can actually make a playable racquet now. Andy and Michelle liked it though, so maybe.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
How do you say that it is nowhere near as good as a pure drive or APD? Makes no sense to me without specifics. I played all those frames and they are all awesome. Not one of them was bad. The Head had the best feeling sweetspot of all of them IMO. It also has different weighting which can be optimal for many players. It is a very stable frame that does not twist at all on off center hits. It wold be crazy for Head not to make a tweener frame, especially one that is popular with younger players.

It just seems like you have a bias and exaggerate everything now. Makes for bad feedback for people who read these threads seeking real knowledge about frames.

I will take your word for it that the 2.0 is better than the graphene, but it appears that this new release is more like the 2.0. It also means the Head may be tweaking other frames as well.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
It's interesting that almost all of Andy's Playsight numbers actually were down compared to his preferred racquet. I guess I would attribute that to possibly to a higher than usual tension to rein in some of the power.
I have to rewatch that. The numbers are flying by and it's a lot of info, but its really cool.
 

RalphJ

Banned
Well, hopefully they are. Head just doesn't have that good of a track record from 2014 on. My opinion may be biased, since I'm coming from the frames prior to 2014, but there are many other good rackets available that are better than the graphene versions from 2014 till now.i'm excited that head is starting to get some of the balance right, if that's the case with this extreme. But I know that with the XT Seed Pro the balance was the same
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Well you are biased for sure..lol. Just read how you talk about the frames. But I think everyone agrees that the IG series was pretty amazing for a lot of Head frames. That being said, the weighting and playability of the graphene frames has been rather great. The complaints are mainly centered around the feel, which maybe they can improve for the purists.

I have an IG 2.0 showing up at my door any minute. If I ever get a chance to demo the new Exteme, I will have probably the best version of it in the IG to measure against it.
 

Doubles

Legend
There is no reason to use one of these racquets. There are just too many that are better. The Graphenes were just too messed up to even be considered usable, even though they looked the coolest. Plus, Gasquet is the only ATP Pro using this pj on his older radical. Head needs to discontinue this line.
1. Gasquet uses an Instinct, not a Radical.
2. The Extreme is somewhat of a mix of the Pure Drive/APD without the stiffness. Not to say that it's a soft frame, but it's far more arm friendly than a Babolat. Additionally, it has the rectangular gripshape for those that love Head and Volkl pallets. While I don't care for the Graphene line (at least, those that I've tried) I'd be willing to demo the Extreme just for the sake of reminiscing. My MG's were great racquets, the Extreme line is a great one as well.

If a line really needed to be discontinued, it'd be the Instinct. While Sharapova and Berdych endorse it, the Instinct line has consistently gotten slightly lower reviews than the Extreme, Prestige, and Radical lines. At the end of the day, TW can't give a stick a bad review, after all, they have to sell them. When I see a racquet with a lower overall, I view that as them saying, "We didn't like the frame, but we can't truly badmouth it." And that's not something that's been said about the Extreme series.
 

HRB

Hall of Fame
LOl. You are comical man. These are the highest rated tweeners I have seen released. These frames have gotten raves from all types of players and sites. But since Ralph J can't get over Graphene and head "ruining the prestige", he has to troll every Head post now and whine about frames that he doesn't even use.

Sad. :(




Yeah the IG pro requires some good action on the ball to keep it in the lines. Ill see how it goes for me.
I agree it is a good stick, but you can't deny that popularity is, sadly, effected by which Pro's use it. I love me some Sveta...and Dicky Gasket's one hander is nice...but most fans have no idea who they are, and the Extreme Line suffers. I had a MG Pro...liked it, but ultimately too much easy power for me to harness, but those reviews have me salivating to try one...OFF TO THE BAY FOR THE HUNT!
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
First impression of the IG 2.0 after stringing it up - IG grommets were the worst. The main weakness of the IG racquet series. But this frame is very easy to string.

QC - The frame weighted out exactly as it is specced - to the T - 315 unstrung , 5 pts HL strung, SW feels around 325.

Feel - bouncing the ball off the strings (Cyclone 17) feels like an APD

PJ - not terrible, not great. Just a solid Tennis PJ.

Egg shape. Not bad enough to bother me.

All I got for now, as it is pouring out.
 

Zoolander

Hall of Fame
The IG Pro was way too powerful for my game. But I recently the Graphene ''Lite'' version and I was pleasantly surprised. The ''Lite'' is the only arm-friendly model of the line, having a flex of 63. It's way too light in stock form for an advanced player, but if you like to customize, it's a great platform.

I also love the Extremes' head shape. Very round like Prince classics, and the 16x19 string pattern is closed enough to give you top-notch control.

Anyone in the market for a 300g racquet (strung, with OG) should really try this one. It's similar to a Pure Drive Lite, but much better for your arm.
I love the extremes head shape too. Been trying to find other racquets with similar round shape, but a little less power(my only problem with the extremes) What Prince racquets do you refer to?

Does anybody know if they have only changed the mold of the extremes once, i think with the IG version?
 
I have extensive demo experience with the IG Pro 2.0 as well as the Pure Drive Roddick. I also demoed the Graphene Extreme Pro. Between the Roddick and IG Pro 2.0 I found a lot more comfort with the IG Pro 2.0 but I found more spin, power and control (due to the more spin) with the Roddick. For some reason, I was getting a good bit more spin with the Roddick and therefore could control it easier. I ultimately decided against the IG Pro 2.0 due to my ground strokes didn't have enough control. Now this could be just me but also thought the IG Pro 2.0 felt 'clunky' and did not feel that way with the Roddick which has similar beam size. Volleys were similar but would give the edge to the IG Pro 2.0 as think sweet spot is bigger. Tried several string combos. Swing weights between the two were 330 for IG and 328 Roddick.

Between the Graphene Extreme Pro and the IG Pro 2.0 I actually thought they played similar. The Graphene was easier to swing due to lower swing weight. I had more plow with the IG and felt the IG was smoother through contact. Spin difference was marginal but would give the edge to the IG Pro 2.0.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
There is no reason to use one of these racquets. There are just too many that are better. The Graphenes were just too messed up to even be considered usable, even though they looked the coolest. Plus, Gasquet is the only ATP Pro using this pj on his older radical. Head needs to discontinue this line.
You know what, though? I had two Graphene Prestige MP's when they came out, and I also had a Graphene Extreme Pro. all three were junk! The feel and the noise, and the overall playability sucked. But because Power Player, Jolly and others praising e GPMP, I gave it another go - picked one up not expecting much. The new GPMP I got is nothing like the ones I had. It is solid with familiar Prestige feel.

So what happened? It's still a mystery to me. Head's quality control? Mid-life upgrade? Bad first batches of frames? Or, did Head actually decide to use the Graphene on their frames? Whatever happened, my new GPMP feels nothing like the ones I had when they first came out.

So..., because I was a fan of the IG version, and I luckily had a great experience with my new GPMP, I will probably try out the new version.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
First impression of the IG 2.0 after stringing it up - IG grommets were the worst. The main weakness of the IG racquet series. But this frame is very easy to string.

QC - The frame weighted out exactly as it is specced - to the T - 315 unstrung , 5 pts HL strung, SW feels around 325.

Feel - bouncing the ball off the strings (Cyclone 17) feels like an APD

PJ - not terrible, not great. Just a solid Tennis PJ.

Egg shape. Not bad enough to bother me.

All I got for now, as it is pouring out.
I found the 17G string much too lively for the IGEP 2.0. To me, it played much better with the 16G. I was using both Cyclone and Head Hawk. It is an excellent frame, which I though how the APD Tour model- if it existed -would weigh.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
Weird! I also tried the GPMP again with the same negative result.
I sold my two previous ones right after a month long playtest. The one I have now is a different one. the two I had, and the new one I have are completely different frames. They just shared the same paint job... Initial hitting with the new one was an eye opening and weird experience at the same time.

It really is weird. How could the same frame feel nothing alike from each other? And I know exactly what you mean when you said the negative things about the Graphene Prestige MP. I felt exactly the same, or probably even worse, because I honestly thought the GPMP and the GEP were two of the worst rackets I have played with.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
The graphene is neither here nor there compared to the different weight distribution.
Exactly. So many people get self-righteous about marketing but they don't realize the audience or simple business. To come out say "we redistributed the weight to the tip and tail of the Prestige..etc" is not only boring to the majority of tennis players, it doesn't resonate. People blame racquet companies for cheesy marketing, but thats the stuff that works. It's also why the majority of pop songs are lame and cheesy but the most popular, while sophisticated music like jazz is niche.

I have extensive demo experience with the IG Pro 2.0 as well as the Pure Drive Roddick. I also demoed the Graphene Extreme Pro. Between the Roddick and IG Pro 2.0 I found a lot more comfort with the IG Pro 2.0 but I found more spin, power and control (due to the more spin) with the Roddick. For some reason, I was getting a good bit more spin with the Roddick and therefore could control it easier. I ultimately decided against the IG Pro 2.0 due to my ground strokes didn't have enough control. Now this could be just me but also thought the IG Pro 2.0 felt 'clunky' and did not feel that way with the Roddick which has similar beam size. Volleys were similar but would give the edge to the IG Pro 2.0 as think sweet spot is bigger. Tried several string combos. Swing weights between the two were 330 for IG and 328 Roddick.

Between the Graphene Extreme Pro and the IG Pro 2.0 I actually thought they played similar. The Graphene was easier to swing due to lower swing weight. I had more plow with the IG and felt the IG was smoother through contact. Spin difference was marginal but would give the edge to the IG Pro 2.0.
This all makes sense. The last time I tried an IG extreme pro, it was underweight and swung too light for me. So I prefer the "clunkier" feel, which is essentially a healthy twist weight and higher SW. The PDR swung much too fast for me stock and I added lead to slow it down. The Extreme pro comes how I like it stock, which is nice.

You know what, though? I had two Graphene Prestige MP's when they came out, and I also had a Graphene Extreme Pro. all three were junk! The feel and the noise, and the overall playability sucked. But because Power Player, Jolly and others praising e GPMP, I gave it another go - picked one up not expecting much. The new GPMP I got is nothing like the ones I had. It is solid with familiar Prestige feel.

So what happened? It's still a mystery to me. Head's quality control? Mid-life upgrade? Bad first batches of frames? Or, did Head actually decide to use the Graphene on their frames? Whatever happened, my new GPMP feels nothing like the ones I had when they first came out.

So..., because I was a fan of the IG version, and I luckily had a great experience with my new GPMP, I will probably try out the new version.
Yes the GPMP is amazing to me, and I could very likely stay with that for next USTA season. I just don't play as often as I used to,so I want to see how I do with the tweener. The GPMP's control is top notch so I'm looking to see what benefits me more in match play.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
I agree the shape is an advantage for spin shots. It has a greater effective spin window.
If it was an advantage, wouldn't there be more round head shaped racquets? Pretty sure racquet mfg's have tested all the possible configurations for head shape and would go with the one that is most effective.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
How do you say that it is nowhere near as good as a pure drive or APD? Makes no sense to me without specifics. I played all those frames and they are all awesome. Not one of them was bad. The Head had the best feeling sweetspot of all of them IMO. It also has different weighting which can be optimal for many players. It is a very stable frame that does not twist at all on off center hits. It wold be crazy for Head not to make a tweener frame, especially one that is popular with younger players.

It just seems like you have a bias and exaggerate everything now. Makes for bad feedback for people who read these threads seeking real knowledge about frames.

I will take your word for it that the 2.0 is better than the graphene, but it appears that this new release is more like the 2.0. It also means the Head may be tweaking other frames as well.
The Instinct is another great tweener. Head has lots of overlap in their model line. The Extreme is Head's version of the APD, but the APD is so good, there is no reason to buy the Extreme unless you have arm issues.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
The Instinct is another great tweener. Head has lots of overlap in their model line. The Extreme is Head's version of the APD, but the APD is so good, there is no reason to buy the Extreme unless you have arm issues.
Well after my time with it today, I would disagree with that. The main reason being that the Extreme is a similar frame, but plays a little different to me in a good way. I have also never owned an APD at this weight and balance, so it requires mods which I personally never nailed down. If someone wants an APD that weighs 12 ounces and has a healthy SW plus is not a super wide open pattern, this is it. The PureAero tour will be a contender if the SW is higher, but the Pure Drive Roddick required mods which threw it off balance and over time irritated my shoulder as a result. I also think many people may just prefer Head frames. Different grip, different feel, no woofer grommets that can feel like a trampoline.

I got to play with BadCall today and it was freaking hot. 95 outside, so probably 100 plus on court. I can deal with that, but the humidity today was insanely thick. We both had to take multiple breaks and it felt like you could not catch your breath at all. Great environment to test a frame though because we were immediately challenged by the weather. Ill put it like this - we were the only people playing today after a while. It was that bad.

Right off the bat, I really liked the frame ( I strung it at 48#s with Cyclone Tour 17) . I liked it before when I tried it, but I was not really looking for anything at the time. i have about 5 weeks before USTA starts so I need to either move on with the Graphene Prestige MP or get grooving with an alternative now. The reason I am looking is mainly due to me not playing tennis as much. IMO, the prestige is rewarding if you are logging 3 or more sessions a week. I still play pretty well with it, but I'm maxed out at 2 times a week of tennis now.

Anyway - Groundstrokes were very nice and very consistent. What surprised me the most was the control. As long as I did the basics (turn, balance, hit) the ball went exactly where I wanted. It was not much different than the Prestige in that regard. I also believe this was due to the full poly which just gives an advantage (at the cost of feel). One thing I did from reading other people's accounts was string the crosses 4 pounds tighter than the mains, which was probably a good idea. The main difference with this frame from the prestige is if you just make contact out in front, especially on the backhand, you are going to get really nice depth without exerting yourself too much. This was key today. I was able to play the entire time without swinging really hard. There is a trade off to this. You need be pretty dialed in with your spin technique.Flat balls can fly to the fence. I would not suggest this frame for a flat hitter. But if you can swing relaxed and just accelerate at contact and through the follow, this racquet is money on groundstrokes.
A standout for me was the slice on both wings. It feels so easy to slice with a head size this big. I never clipped the frame or mishit a slice. I tried slice with both forehand and backhand and both sides were strikingly good.

Id comment more on spin, but i just went back to full poly so I don't know how much that factored in. Needless to say,the spin was plentiful and many balls I felt I would have hit long with a players frame stayed in.

Feel reminds me of an APD, but its more direct and connected to the ball while the APD is more springy. Not a huge difference there but Ive never been a fan of woofers, so I like this better. I also really liked this frame on volleys. It does not twist at all, which is another advantage of it IMO. For whatever reason I felt very comfortable approaching net and finishing with this frame. You simply use the stiffness of the racquet to redirect the ball into the open court.

Finally serve. I had not served much in a while, but I was impressed. The main reason is it takes barely any effort to hit a flat ace if you keep your arm loose and just trust the frame. Thats not really my best serve, but I like to slide them in sometimes and this racquet has a ton of power there. My main serve is a top /slice and I really like the frame for this serve. It is so wide that it is really easy to brush across the ball and over it. Once my toss started going where I wanted it, I did not have any issues with the serve.

Obviously I came away really impressed with the racquet, but it's probably not for everybody. For me, using heavier players frames for so long, this racquet was a welcome relief in terms of ease of use. I noticed less errors and easier pace and depth. For some people who prefer lighter frames closer to 11 ounces, this racquet may be too demanding after a while since you need to control its power with consistent spin hitting. Also, the racquet really needs full poly. If you don't like full poly, this will not a good frame. I'd add that while the sweetspot is very big, it is still not a frame I would say is comfortable, coming from the Prestige. It works for me because I'm not playing all the time and wont really grind on my arm too much.

Im leaning towards taking this one into my USTA season, but I have 5 weeks to decide. This is not a frame where it feels so amazing that I can't wait to hit again, or I have that honeymoon feeling of finding something like the Tfight 315. But I definitely understand the high reviews. It is absolutely a racquet that can take your game to a higher level if you are coming from players frames and want something more forgiving while not being super light. It is highly enjoyable to play with and I definitely see the advantages of it. Ill keep using it and post further impressions over the next few weeks. I left the day fairly pleased with how I played, and the racquet was just something that helped me out with that instead of challenging me. I think thats how it should be.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Not a thing. Very easy racquet to string, I didn't word that well. They are just kind of cheap in how they are overlapped and can pop up out of place because it's not all one piece. Hard to describe but you will see what I mean if you string one.
 
The IG Extreme Pro 2.0 served like a dream for me. For once in my tennis playing career, felt like I had a weapon on the serve. Volleyed well with it as well. Ground game for me was the ultimate un-doing. It was string with a 17guage hybrid. Believe it was Savage black and FXP. I have two of them as got them for real cheap. May try a full poly and see how it does with a full poly.

@Powerplayer - this racquet can absolutely be a huge weapon as my good friend who plays with it has a ton of plow, spin and control with it. Wish I could get it going.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah I think you need full poly with this frame. It made a difference for me. The demos I had tried in the past had multi and I think that may be why I never got on with the frame. Even a hybrid will probably not cut it.

The Cyclone 17 at 48#s works great. Ill see how it progresses, but Cyclone plays pretty well for me in past experience.
 
Your thought process is similar to mine. Not playing as much and previously played with a 4d200 tour. Looking for a good tweener with a big sweet spot but still have plow and precision. Definitely will try with an all poly set up.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Your thought process is similar to mine. Not playing as much and previously played with a 4d200 tour. Looking for a good tweener with a big sweet spot but still have plow and precision. Definitely will try with an all poly set up.
Definitely try stringing the crosses tighter than the mains. It seems like the agreed upon difference is 4 pounds. It very well may have made a difference because the control on this frame really surprised me.
 

JohnBPittsburgh

Hall of Fame
This thread inspired me to pull out my Head Graphene Extreme lite today. It is strung with Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour, at an unknown tension (I just got it bayside a week or two ago) and I actually felt a little pain in my forearm on off center hits. I have been playing a ton of tennis, so it might just be sore, but I put it down after a few hits to be safe. I haven't weighted it up yet, and I am not a poly string user (I just figured I would try it out because it came strung with it) The poly still snaps back, so I didn't think it was dead. I am probably going to hit with it tomorrow when I am rested and see if it still hurts, and if so, I will cut it out and restring. The letters on the string are almost totally worn off. Any suggestions on what to do (cut it out, play with it, restring with Prince Premier Touch) Does poly strings usually hurt your forearm?
 
Definitely try stringing the crosses tighter than the mains. It seems like the agreed upon difference is 4 pounds. It very well may have made a difference because the control on this frame really surprised me.
Sure will. I changed out the pallets in both of mine and put the speed pallets in them. While I don't dislike the traditional head pallets, I prefer the speed ones a little better. My grip on the serve and overhead tend to be more natural as with the traditional pallet I tend to lose it some if that makes sense. Both of mine spec out at 12.0 oz strung with swing weighs at 330 and 327.
 
This thread inspired me to pull out my Head Graphene Extreme lite today. It is strung with Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour, at an unknown tension (I just got it bayside a week or two ago) and I actually felt a little pain in my forearm on off center hits. I have been playing a ton of tennis, so it might just be sore, but I put it down after a few hits to be safe. I haven't weighted it up yet, and I am not a poly string user (I just figured I would try it out because it came strung with it) The poly still snaps back, so I didn't think it was dead. I am probably going to hit with it tomorrow when I am rested and see if it still hurts, and if so, I will cut it out and restring. The letters on the string are almost totally worn off. Any suggestions on what to do (cut it out, play with it, restring with Prince Premier Touch) Does poly strings usually hurt your forearm?
If it were me, yes I would cut it and replace. But a fresh poly can hurt the forearm so wouldn't string it too tight. Pro Hurricane Tour while a great string and one of my favorites is a stiff string.
 

DonDiego

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This thread inspired me to pull out my Head Graphene Extreme lite today. It is strung with Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour, at an unknown tension (I just got it bayside a week or two ago) and I actually felt a little pain in my forearm on off center hits. I have been playing a ton of tennis, so it might just be sore, but I put it down after a few hits to be safe. I haven't weighted it up yet, and I am not a poly string user (I just figured I would try it out because it came strung with it) The poly still snaps back, so I didn't think it was dead. I am probably going to hit with it tomorrow when I am rested and see if it still hurts, and if so, I will cut it out and restring. The letters on the string are almost totally worn off. Any suggestions on what to do (cut it out, play with it, restring with Prince Premier Touch) Does poly strings usually hurt your forearm?
Poly strings on a very light racquet is a no-no for me. I had Head syn gut PPS on it and it was very comfortable. Great control too. I would only use poly on this frame for durability purpose.
 

JohnBPittsburgh

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I do not have the strokes to even require the use of poly strings, I will stick with Multis, Syn and Natural guts. At least until I have markedly improved and am breaking strings frequently. I am cutting the strings out after I send this message. Thank you for your thoughts, and my arm thanks you as well. Have a great day, and enjoy this magnificent sport ;) ...and racquet! I am about to work my magic on it. It will look brand new and hit way better by tomorrow (New grommets, strings, grip, Blu tack and Lead)
 

quest01

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If I was going to try any other racquet I'd give this one a shot. I use the Aeropro drive so this would be the most similar except a little heavier. I like the review and I'm a fan of the head size and beam width but I have no reason to try something else at this time. The APD's are still holding up.
 

DonDiego

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Another frame that is quite in these specs range, but which has more control and is more comfy for the arm, is the Prince White 100 LS (re-edition of the o3 White). Unless you really hate the ''O'' ports it's worth a demo.
 

n8dawg6

Legend
I much prefer floppy racquets, but I've got the MP version of this on the way just to see what happens. It's my way of buying an Aeropro without buying an Aeropro ... I've always preferred soft control frames, but I cant help but notice all of my opponents seem to be wristing an Aeropro or a Pure Drive. You cant argue with the kind of speed and spin they're generating.

I actually like the new paint.
 
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