The HEAD Prestige is BACK Back

gino

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Wow...

I've been stubborn on my disdain for the modern evolution of the prestige lineage from graphene to present day (historically a prestige loyalist secondary to my love for the Wilson 6.1 95 - used 3 iterations of the prestige competitively as a nationally ranked junior/collegiate player). The last prestige I loved/competed with was the Youtek IG Pro. One exception along the way was the graphene 360+ prestige mp, which I thought had great look, a nice mold, and decent layup

It's time to eat my words... the prestige is BACK. See below for my thoughts on the models I tried relative to my favorite prestiges/other frames:
  • Auxetic 2.0 Prestige Tour (95in/22mm/16x19): this is a really cool attempt from head at keeping the 95in frame relevant. I don't love the idea of a 22mm prestige for me personally (even the MPL has a thinner 21.5mm beam), but it works. It's similar to a 6.1 95 in power and spin generation (16M 6.1) whilst having that classic prestige plush feel. It's hard to compare this configuration to a prestige of old, the proper comparison is a flexible/plush 6.1 95 like the nCode 6.1 95. There's something about the plow in this frame, it reminds me of that PS85-type plow, pure freight-train energy. For me, it's a little too similar to other frames I prefer in that spec range, but a great option for the person who needs control. I like the combination of power & control , slightly more powered than a FXP-Youtek IG prestige, but less powerful than a Wilson 6.1 - the sweet spot is smallish, but predictable.

  • Auxetic 2.0 Prestige Pro (98in/20mm/18x20): the golden child of the lineup. A true modern gem of a player's frame. Thin 20mm beam feels even thinner in hand, but doesnt lack any free power or spin generation. I was impressed by the plushness and plow, the layup reminds me of my youtek prestiges, where it seems to have a bit of dynamic flex that works & doesnt make the frame feel disjointed. I think this 18x20 pattern is more open than it suggests, allowing for great levels of spin production. Surprising power & spin for a 20mm frame. My ONE pet peeve is the finish on the throat, it's a little odd, can't make out if it will age well. Aside from that, gloss burgundy looks incredible in person, wish it covered the whole frame. My comparison is the graphene 360+ with more plow and a more plush layup. Layup meets in the middle between a microgel & youtek prestige to me, with the Pro Tour 280/630/2.0 plow. There's an absorbing sensation when you really swing out, I found that to be pretty vital to the enjoyment of the hitting experience. Picture this, massive body serve inbound, you have to get out of the way and just redirect to the best of your ability, this one really gives you that comfort that you can absorb/redirect with decent pace in tricky spots like that. I have a lot of intrigue about this one, a potential switch/frame to add to the collection.

  • Auxetic 2.0 Prestige MPL (99in/21.5mm/18x19): only hit this for a bit, but I see the angle. It's a new approach to the prestige that allows for a modern platform racket, but also an accessible prestige for those who may be aging out/tired of the prestige's demanding nature. It's impossible to compare to a prestige of old, but I think it sits nicely in that blade 100/pure strike 100 segment of the market. A forgiving, comfy, and thinnish beamed player's frame. We all know how popular this one is already on the boards

Anyways, point of this thread is to say to all the other skeptics out there, relax about the specs on paper, & GIVE THESE A TRY! I know I was stubborn about it & obviously im behind the curve (these dropped 4-5 months ago), but a couple trusted board members pointed me in the right direction. Fire away any questions related to this new era of the prestige. IMHO the future is bright for the prestige, even if they have no tour endorsees. The frames are still incredible from a feel, comfort, and playability perspective

*** This is entirely my own opinion, do not have any ties to HEAD. The only brand to give me free gear throughout my playing days has been Wilson
 
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If you liked those wait until you try prestige pro 18x20. You can even have it in 16x19 in eu. I have not tried that but I am curious how it compares to already great 18x20
 
If you liked those wait until you try prestige pro 18x20. You can even have it in 16x19 in eu. I have not tried that but I am curious how it compares to already great 18x20

My thoughts in the initial post (for 18x20). It’s incredible ! My favorite prestige in 14-15 years (aside from the two re-issues)!
 
I suspect you might be in a honeymoon period, but very nice writeups.

Well what’s interesting about my point of reference is I’ve never fallen out of love with something I’ve initially liked. Own over 50 frames and I’ve never had a honeymoon period. I think that comes from a strong foundation with frames. I used the 6.1 95 for 7 straight years and then prestiges for about 5. From there I used the rf97 for 2 years and the pure strike tour for the past 6. I’m not even willing to say I’m going to switch to any of these, I just think they’re awesome
 
and the pure strike tour for the past 6
What do you think of a weighed up Strike VS vs the Strike Tour? I’ve been playing with the Strike Tour also since it was released in 2014 including both G1 and G3. Lately I’ve been experimenting with a Strike VS with 6ozs of lead tape at the top to take it to 332 grams - slightly lighter than my Strike Tours at 338 grams. I like the old-school thin-beam feel.
 
What do you think of a weighed up Strike VS vs the Strike Tour? I’ve been playing with the Strike Tour also since it was released in 2014 including both G1 and G3. Lately I’ve been experimenting with a Strike VS with 6ozs of lead tape at the top to take it to 332 grams - slightly lighter than my Strike Tours at 338 grams. I like the old-school thin-beam feel.

I still have 5 strike tours and 3 strike vs frames. I love them both, just different vibes. The PST gives a lot more power, even with the PSVS weighted up considerably. I like the strike VS on offense more, but the PST more on defense. Serves are better with the PST for the free power and spin generation, but the PSVS comes through the air quicker. There's a reason I'm holding onto multiple of both ;)
 
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I have Youtek Mids and G360+ Mids, I hanging out to get a PC2.0 next, but love to see them maybe put the Auxetic 2.0 construction into the old school classic mold, i think it would be something to behold...... but we can only dream.

I'm realistic enough to know that beyond the PC2.0, we weill ike never see a true Prestige Mid (89spin 18/20) again :(
 
That looks like glossy paint vs Matte/glossy for 18x20 sandard.

furthermore, notice the TWE page has a stock image with the matte paint on the throat...

interesting, time to investigate further

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I have Youtek Mids and G360+ Mids, I hanging out to get a PC2.0 next, but love to see them maybe put the Auxetic 2.0 construction into the old school classic mold, i think it would be something to behold...... but we can only dream.

I'm realistic enough to know that beyond the PC2.0, we weill ike never see a true Prestige Mid (89spin 18/20) again :(

also have a PC 2.0 and a couple old head mids, they are definitely worth holding onto based on the uncertainty of the future like you mentioned
 
Sorry to confuse, I'd gone looking for any source for a 16x19 Prestige Pro frame and could not get a hold of any retail versions, but found a couple pro stocks, one of which is the pic above. Retail 16m and 18m both have the same gloss burgundy, but grey is matte. Pro stock is all gloss. Not nearly as much of a visual difference as Wilson gloss vs. dull matte. The retail version looks just as good and I'd imagine the retail 16x19 plays just as nice.
 
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Sorry to confuse, I'd gone looking for any source for a 16x19 20mm Prestige Pro frame and could not get a hold of any retail versions, but found a couple pro stocks, one of which is the pic above. Retail 16x19 has the same gloss burgundy, but grey is matte. Pro stock is all gloss. Indoors they're fairly dark, but both versions look really nice outside in the sun and I'd imagine the retail 16x19 plays pretty much the same.
Ha! We should have known. No worries and thank you for clearing up the confusion

Still a sick frame
 
interesting that Prestige Pro and Gravity MP are the only two Head offerings with a sub-60 RA. Prestige Pro would be a fun hit, but I'm not good enough to to say I could play well and without expending too much effort with it (and that's okay)
 
Unless it is the TGT345.2, it is not a pro stock. However, if all glossy, it may be a pro stock. The ones selling at the retailers (TWE for example) are TGK345.4

the plot thickens... tennis point.global doesnt seem to have the 16x19 in stock even
 
It seems an after thought or strange decision or some sneaky marketing to have released the 16x19 pro version in this manner. On previous older head frames most notably for me it would have been nice to see the 16x19 on the IGMP but now they have made the changes to the mould and shape it has got wider anyway and the modern 18x20 is not the 18x20 many of us have grown up on.
I still need to put a decent run of time with auxetic 1.0 pro (i am a gen behind :)) after using the g360+mp for the last 18 months mainly. How does the 16x19 string bed look compared to the 18x20, in particular how low do the strings go to the throat. On the last auxetic 1.0 i hace noticed they are wider spaced and go lower by a bit down to the throat which is not as uniform as the previous mould (95 head).
 
The 16x19 pro is a bit like a 16x18 with an extra top cross very high up the frame.
The bottom cross is high, like in most head frames.
 
In the pics above: The gray part is matte, but it's not paint, it's a sticker. Now I'm questioning if I got a real racket made by Head or a replica made who knows where!?
 
In the pics above: The gray part is matte, but it's not paint, it's a sticker. Now I'm questioning if I got a real racket made by Head or a replica made who knows where!?
Maybe you got the Pro Stock. I have not seen the knock offs of these.
Does it say “pro” at 12 o’clock? Is there any lead under the grommets? Any silicone in the handle (inside the trap door)? What is the static weight and balance of it?
Is it a standard synthetic grip (does it say Hydrosorb Pro on it or just Head?
Any chance to look under the pallets?
 
Maybe you got the Pro Stock. I have not seen the knock offs of these.
Does it say “pro” at 12 o’clock? Is there any lead under the grommets? Any silicone in the handle (inside the trap door)? What is the static weight and balance of it?
Is it a standard synthetic grip (does it say Hydrosorb Pro on it or just Head?
Any chance to look under the pallets?
It weighs 344g total with og and strings, that's how I got it, i bought it used. It says pro at 12 o'clock. I don't know about the rest. I think it's real.
 
It weighs 344g total with og and strings, that's how I got it, i bought it used. It says pro at 12 o'clock. I don't know about the rest. I think it's real.
I’ll ask about the glossy PJ
But the weight seems to be on the spec and pro stock should not say “Pro”
 
Whats the general idea behind the prestige tour? Should it offer more power and spin than the pro? Any other reference racquets that feel and perform similar? I used to play with angell tc95 with great results so from time to time i think that 95” might be my preference :)
Any pros on the tour used it ?
 
Whats the general idea behind the prestige tour? Should it offer more power and spin than the pro? Any other reference racquets that feel and perform similar? I used to play with angell tc95 with great results so from time to time i think that 95” might be my preference :)
Any pros on the tour used it ?
I'm messing around with 2021 Tour at the moment and it's really nice.
A bit like a Pro Staff 97 with a tighter string pattern.
Noticeably bigger sweet spot than my 360+ Prestige Mid.
 
Whats the general idea behind the prestige tour? Should it offer more power and spin than the pro? Any other reference racquets that feel and perform similar? I used to play with angell tc95 with great results so from time to time i think that 95” might be my preference :)
Any pros on the tour used it ?

Significantly more on both. Prestige pro is one of few truly low powered rackets. 2021 Tour was amazing, but didn't feel like a prestige. Newer one feels closer to prestige, but doesn't have the performance of the previous due to spec difference. If head only updated the RA, it would have been perfect. Think people found out how good the 2021 was a bit too late.
 
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Does the TGT 293.1 in Prestige PJ, the FC, count?
Cause I love them, XL or regular.
Have you tried them?

Also bought the Prestige Pro by mistake, gifted it to an European head coach and it took hin weeks to get used to it. It was too much for me, as one has to work hard with that stick.

PT 2.0 seemed ok, powerful, all around, if you are 4.5 and up and like heavy sticks.
 
Whats the general idea behind the prestige tour? Should it offer more power and spin than the pro? Any other reference racquets that feel and perform similar? I used to play with angell tc95 with great results so from time to time i think that 95” might be my preference :)
Any pros on the tour used it ?
Musetti used to use a predecessor of it with the same mold I think before ending up at the Extreme Tour
 
with the Microgel series, Head introduced a new 95" Prestige mold: TK238. the then-Prestige MP (midplus) was 18x20 and there was a 16x19 version called the Prestige Pro. same mold as the midplus with 21 mm constant box beam. both were called 98" but were true 95" racquets

with the Youtek IG series, Head introduced two new 95" Prestige molds: TK293 for the new MP and Pro and TK291 for Prestige S. Prestige S has a 22 mm beam, was lighter and stiffer (by Prestige standards, mind you).

with the introduction of Graphene, Prestige Pro and Prestige S came to share the same 22 mm mold.

as we know, Prestige Midplus eventually became Prestige Pro. Prestige Pro eventually became Prestige Tour with the same TK291 mold. if you do the math, TK291 is Head's longest running Prestige mold that's still "alive"
 
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