PT57A owner here. Aside from the demand, does it feel less heavy, i.e., less fatigue on serves and on groundstrokes?So went out and hit for an hour and here are my thoughts:
The new Prestige Pro has almost the identical feel as my PT57A. Same soft flex, similar sound when you really crack a ball. The 16x19 gives it just a bit more pop and of course more spin, but it isn’t a huge amount. But it reminded me why I switched away from the PT57A in the first place, it is extremely demanding because I have to constantly take big cuts at the ball and the sweet spot is somewhat small. I think next time out I am going to drop the tension from 55 lbs down to 47 lbs and see how it plays.
I spent the last 15 minutes hitting with my gravity pro auxetic, and I hit noticeably better immediately with it. Better depth and more power. Really like the feel compared to previous versions of the gravity pro, it is a bit softer. Reminds me of what I imagine a “new age“ PT57 would be if that makes any sense.
Will keep tinkering and play testing both. But if I had to choose today I would stick with the GravityPro. But that is coming from a guy in his late 40s whose joints keep breaking down…
What is the difference between the .2 and .4 (other than the presence or lack of commercial weights)?TGT345.2 is the pro stock. TGK345.4 is the retail 16x19
No differenceWhat is the difference between the .2 and .4 (other than the presence or lack of commercial weights)?
hard to tell since I matched mine up in spec, so the fatigue seemed the same to me. again I am hoping a drop in tension will help with this. My Gravity Pros are the same spec as well, I just don’t have to swing quite as big all of the time because of the extra power. I am thinking about getting a new Speed MP and modding it up and see how that goes. The new RA at 60 is enticing. I tried it with the previous version and it just had to much power and was hard to control for me.PT57A owner here. Aside from the demand, does it feel less heavy, i.e., less fatigue on serves and on groundstrokes?
What’s the spec of your racket? It was customized to a spec.PT57A owner here. Aside from the demand, does it feel less heavy, i.e., less fatigue on serves and on groundstrokes?
The lower flex 58 seems to take way too much power from the PP aux. 2.0 as I learned from other reviews like this one on YT from Tennis Euphoria.So went out and hit for an hour and here are my thoughts:
The new Prestige Pro has almost the identical feel as my PT57A. Same soft flex, similar sound when you really crack a ball. The 16x19 gives it just a bit more pop and of course more spin, but it isn’t a huge amount. But it reminded me why I switched away from the PT57A in the first place, it is extremely demanding because I have to constantly take big cuts at the ball and the sweet spot is somewhat small. I think next time out I am going to drop the tension from 55 lbs down to 47 lbs and see how it plays.
I spent the last 15 minutes hitting with my gravity pro auxetic, and I hit noticeably better immediately with it. Better depth and more power. Really like the feel compared to previous versions of the gravity pro, it is a bit softer. Reminds me of what I imagine a “new age“ PT57 would be if that makes any sense.
Will keep tinkering and play testing both. But if I had to choose today I would stick with the GravityPro. But that is coming from a guy in his late 40s whose joints keep breaking down…
I noticed that quite a few ATP doubles players are playing with a Head Prestige.![]()
1/2 Indian Wells. All four play with Head Prestige.
This line is definitely back![]()
Get the Prestige Classic 2.0.Guys, I need some recommendations on which old iteration of prestige I should buy. People seem to like the i.Prestige, IG Prestige, Youtek Prestige and Microgel Prestige. I'm thinking of getting a second hand Microgel Prestige cause Marat Safin fanboying but the paint job is god awful and I don't think I can play with one while having two of the auxetic 2.0s.
I might get one but only for collection purposes. I'm looking for one that is 98 sq in 18x20 like the Aux 2.0 Prestige Pro. I think the Prestige Classic would be too demanding to have a casual rally with even. I have 3 Head PT 2.0s and they are a joy to play with. The feel and sound with a natural gut and poly hybrid is unlike any other.Get the Prestige Classic 2.0.
PC2.0 gets my recommendation as well, unless you can find a PT57A.I might get one but only for collection purposes. I'm looking for one that is 98 sq in 18x20 like the Aux 2.0 Prestige Pro. I think the Prestige Classic would be too demanding to have a casual rally with even. I have 3 Head PT 2.0s and they are a joy to play with. The feel and sound with a natural gut and poly hybrid is unlike any other.
This might not be relevant to this thread but since I grabbed a couple Blade Pro 18x20 recently, I have been interested in the older radical tour/mp models like the bumblebee, zebra, candycane and liquidmetals. I'm kinda confused since I am from the newer generation of players and I am unfamiliar with older head models. Seems like the PT630 and Bumblebee Radical Tour are PT57As. Please correct me if I am wrong. If you @vsbabolat or @Soundbyte had to choose one classic radical model, which one would it be and why? I have been searching around **** for nice second hand frames. I'm not interested in the OS or XL versions tho.PC2.0 gets my recommendation as well, unless you can find a PT57A.
PT2.0 is nice too, and perhaps more what you're looking for. But seriously the PC2.0 is great
Get the Radical Tour TwinTube 630.This might not be relevant to this thread but since I grabbed a couple Blade Pro 18x20 recently, I have been interested in the older radical tour/mp models like the bumblebee, zebra, candycane and liquidmetals. I'm kinda confused since I am from the newer generation of players and I am unfamiliar with older head models. Seems like the PT630 and Bumblebee Radical Tour are PT57As. Please correct me if I am wrong. If you @vsbabolat or @Soundbyte had to choose one classic radical model, which one would it be and why? I have been searching around **** for nice second hand frames. I'm not interested in the OS or XL versions tho.
PT57A owner here. Aside from the demand, does it feel less heavy, i.e., less fatigue on serves and on groundstrokes?
I echo these sentiments 100%! I've said in another thread about this frame that it's the closest incarnation to the PT630/PT57A that there has been and is effectively what the the Pro Tour 2.0 should have been.So went out and hit for an hour and here are my thoughts:
The new Prestige Pro has almost the identical feel as my PT57A. Same soft flex, similar sound when you really crack a ball. The 16x19 gives it just a bit more pop and of course more spin, but it isn’t a huge amount. But it reminded me why I switched away from the PT57A in the first place, it is extremely demanding because I have to constantly take big cuts at the ball and the sweet spot is somewhat small. I think next time out I am going to drop the tension from 55 lbs down to 47 lbs and see how it plays.
I spent the last 15 minutes hitting with my gravity pro auxetic, and I hit noticeably better immediately with it. Better depth and more power. Really like the feel compared to previous versions of the gravity pro, it is a bit softer. Reminds me of what I imagine a “new age“ PT57 would be if that makes any sense.
Will keep tinkering and play testing both. But if I had to choose today I would stick with the GravityPro. But that is coming from a guy in his late 40s whose joints keep breaking down…
What a collection, good style. Can't beat the pt630 !I echo these sentiments 100%! I've said in another thread about this frame that it's the closest incarnation to the PT630/PT57A that there has been and is effectively what the the Pro Tour 2.0 should have been.
What is noticeably different between the Prestige Pro 2023 and PT630 is the heft. It's easily a 12.0oz+ frame and that flowthrough coupled with that flex is just so utterly unique. Although it's not as popular amongst pros as it was you can see why so many gravitated to it.
The Prestige Pro is just a more "user friendly" version of it or as one of the OP's suggested "new age". I have so much confidence in ripping my forehand with it because I know it'll land in. My most outstanding stroke though is my slice backhand. Having come from a Prince Phantom 100G with a 16x18 string pattern I really am enjoying the extra stings and the grip you get on the ball.
It's lighter but still hefty enough to be extremely stable and you get that trademark flex when you hit it clean. Leather grip and a bit of lead/tungsten tape will sort that out if you are so inclined.
I will say though it took me some time really to get used to it. It is very sensitive (IMO) to string choice more so than I have felt with other frames. I had it strung with a full bed of multi (Bab Xcel) and I couldn't hit a ball with it. No grip at all on the ball. I've since gone to my favourite string 4G Rough at 47lbs and love it so far. Took a little bit of time to "wear in" and I did consider dropping the tension slightly. I reckon as well ALU Power would be a great choice in this frame given it's a touch softer than 4G.
FYI - I have some skin in the game too.
Yeah - it's been a labour of love.What a collection, good style. Can't beat the pt630 !
Hit with my Chinese made PT280 a bit tonight and it really is special among my closet full of racquets. Needs to be re-issued as is.Incidentally too, my nicest feeling one is the Chinese made Pro Tour 280.
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Incredible collection of sticks - prestige lives onI echo these sentiments 100%! I've said in another thread about this frame that it's the closest incarnation to the PT630/PT57A that there has been and is effectively what the the Pro Tour 2.0 should have been.
What is noticeably different between the Prestige Pro 2023 and PT630 is the heft. It's easily a 12.0oz+ frame and that flowthrough coupled with that flex is just so utterly unique. Although it's not as popular amongst pros as it was you can see why so many gravitated to it.
The Prestige Pro is just a more "user friendly" version of it or as one of the OP's suggested "new age". I have so much confidence in ripping my forehand with it because I know it'll land in. My most outstanding stroke though is my slice backhand. Having come from a Prince Phantom 100G with a 16x18 string pattern I really am enjoying the extra stings and the grip you get on the ball.
It's lighter but still hefty enough to be extremely stable and you get that trademark flex when you hit it clean. Leather grip and a bit of lead/tungsten tape will sort that out if you are so inclined.
I will say though it took me some time really to get used to it. It is very sensitive (IMO) to string choice more so than I have felt with other frames. I had it strung with a full bed of multi (Bab Xcel) and I couldn't hit a ball with it. No grip at all on the ball. I've since gone to my favourite string 4G Rough at 47lbs and love it so far. Took a little bit of time to "wear in" and I did consider dropping the tension slightly. I reckon as well ALU Power would be a great choice in this frame given it's a touch softer than 4G.
FYI - I have some skin in the game too.
Static weight only doesn't say everything. It just depends more on what the swingweight and balance is.Yeah - it's been a labour of love.
I've got another x2 Bumble-Bees and x1 Candy Cane in another bag that is being stored elsewhere.
That heavy, flexible feedback is just unbeatable. It's too hard to explain to people who haven't used one. Incidentally too, my nicest feeling one is the Chinese made Pro Tour 280.
Back to the HPP 2023, I generally go for low RA racquets hence why I have been a long term Prince user and, whilst the feel is close, it just isn't the same. Just a 12.0oz+ weight (350g+) is very hard to swing over long sessions even though I could.
Head have really hit the target for us old schoolers. It's just a more modern, user-friendly version Pro Tour 630 but very true to its roots and that's saying something given how off track the Prestige line got IMO.
Out of (or not yet in) stock apparently everywhere.just wonder if anyone know where can I buy Prestige Pro 16x19 2023 grommet?
So I emailed them as I also need some and apparently it's gonna be another month until they are back in stock.just wonder if anyone know where can I buy Prestige Pro 16x19 2023 grommet?
Awesome! Will get some as the grommet is quite easy to worn outSo I emailed them as I also need some, and apparently it's gonna be another month until they are back in stock.
No racket manufacturer covers "wear and tear" damage.Hey Prestige Fam I got a warranty question for y'all?
Tonight I cracked my Prestige Pro 2023 in the throat just above the grip. I was serving and the racquet slipped from my hands and crashed into the court bouncing at probably 1 o'clock on the racquet head.
That’s not manufacturing defect. You’re not getting burned. The racket slipped out of your hand and came in contact with the court. No racket can survive that.Hey Prestige Fam I got a warranty question for y'all?
Tonight I cracked my Prestige Pro 2023 in the throat just above the grip. I was serving and the racquet slipped from my hands and crashed into the court bouncing at probably 1 o'clock on the racquet head. Weird that it happened there because when I have intentionally bounced frames to break them they generally fail in the place of first impact which, in this case, woudl have been around that 1/2 o'clock region on the frame.
This is the first time it has ever happened to me and I've literally only had it for about 2 months now and for about half that time it was not used at all because I still using my old frames.
Surely I'll be able to get a new one from Head via the retailer I purchased it from?
Incidentally, there's a line in the frames material (almost like where it's been bonded together) which is almost precisely where the crack failure occurred. You can see in the images supplied.
I just hope I get a new one because I'll be majorly pissed if I get burned like this lol
My Prince Pro certainly did. Bit misshapen but playableThat’s not manufacturing defect. You’re not getting burned. The racket slipped out of your hand and came in contact with the court. No racket can survive that.
Yeah maybe but it shouldn't have happened... I have absolutely tortured racquets in the past and they haven't done that so yeah I do feel a touch cheated.That’s not manufacturing defect. You’re not getting burned. The racket slipped out of your hand and came in contact with the court. No racket can survive that.
Dude if you bounce a racquet at the right angle it’s going to crack every time. This ain’t my first time.Yeah maybe but it shouldn't have happened... I have absolutely tortured racquets in the past and they haven't done that so yeah I do feel a touch cheated.
Can we hook him up with a Prostock with that 100% silicone layup? Might prevent mishaps like this in the future. Playability be damned!Dude if you bounce a racquet at the right angle it’s going to crack.
You've got all the answers.... didn't know I was speaking with the Head distributor in Australia? Is that you?Dude if you bounce a racquet at the right angle it’s going to crack every time. This ain’t my first time.
To be fair, the service motion is arguably the worst possible motion for racket damage. It tends to be the fastest swing any tennis player has, the racket is on edge, so if it's slips and strikes the ground with the strings/frame perpendicular to the court = weakest part of the frame.You've got all the answers.... didn't know I was speaking with the Head distributor in Australia? Is that you?
Bounced many a racquet in anger never once having it fail like this did. This, slipped during serve. Shouldn't have happened...
Admittedly I know I'm pushing sh*t up hill expecting a new frame but I'm just cut... I'm going to trial the Blade V9 16x19 but the feel is a bit mehhh so far in the quick 10 minute hit I had.To be fair, the service motion is arguably the worst possible motion for racket damage. It tends to be the fastest swing any tennis player has, the racket is on edge, so if it's slips and strikes the ground with the strings/frame perpendicular to the court = weakest part of the frame.
Other than someone intentionally trying to bust a frame, most of the 10+ broken frames I've seen have all been from racket slips during the serve.
Yes - all my hopes were dashed today at the pro shop after speaking with the Head rep! They've lost a very loyal brand customer. Not that they give a **** at all but yeah I won't buy another. Again, given how new it was I expected a little more from Head. Clearly I expected too much. Such a shame because the racquet is really great to use!Not going to happen unless you bought it from a major Head retailer & the rep is therefore willing to brown nose to keep the account happy.
Blade is nothing like the prestige, feel wiseAdmittedly I know I'm pushing sh*t up hill expecting a new frame but I'm just cut... I'm going to trial the Blade V9 16x19 but the feel is a bit mehhh so far in the quick 10 minute hit I had.
I don't know whether it plays like the Prestige even though the specs are very similar
I have broken many rackets in my life including the racket coming out of my hand in the serve and cracking. I also have more experience in the tennis industry than you ever will. Your racket was not defective. It’s called user error.You've got all the answers.... didn't know I was speaking with the Head distributor in Australia? Is that you?
Bounced many a racquet in anger never once having it fail like this did. This, slipped during serve. Shouldn't have happened...
Yes - all my hopes were dashed today at the pro shop after speaking with the Head rep! They've lost a very loyal brand customer. Not that they give a **** at all but yeah I won't buy another. Again, given how new it was I expected a little more from Head. Clearly I expected too much. Such a shame because the racquet is really great to use!