Discussion in 'Racquets' started by harryz, Jan 10, 2009.
But the original requirement was 355
then again, why do I get to decide? If you want it, you're in!
dunlop tour pro revelation @ 390 g
dunlop tour pro revelation @ 370 g
head pro tour 280 (china) @ 370 g
wilson hyper hammer 5.3 @ 360 g
why are you adding this much weight to the handle, seems like lead at the grip does give magic shots, be it any amount
lol nice try.. but no.
it's to counter balance this:
My LM4 is like 14-15 oz....bbut like 15-20pts hl. Does that count?
NO, the counter was on the Tour 90 not the KSP 88, nice try
you could have just added lead at the V throat if you wanted a brick, but you chose the grip ;-)
Sure if you wanted to turn an otherwise servicable frame into a piece of worthless junk doorstop.
isn't that part of what is just wanting to have a 500g brick wall
J, did you get my email regarding video?
On a side note, I just realized I forgot to reply to your e-mail.
I was going to suggest we get together and that way you can fool around with my camera, and see what you think of it first hand before you plunk down the coin.
I am happy with it so far, and you can't beat the $600 pricetag. (Might even be lower now)
Dude, my PST, K90, and KPS all have lead under the bumper. I just used the PST pic as an illustration as to why I had counter balance it with metal plates in the handle. Sorry for not making that clear to you, thought it would have been obvious what I meant.
Adding lead to the V doesn't feel the same as adding to the head and counter balancing it with weight at the but end. I've tried it already and it made the racquet feel (vibrate) funny and different.. something that I'm not used to. Maybe adding weight to the v might work for some, but it's not what I like.
You can set up your racquet anyway you want for your skill level and swing style, I don't care. But I will not agree that one setup will yield 'magic shots'. That's a bunch of BS, and that is why I debunked your conspiracy theory with actual photographic evidence.
You can believe in "MAGIC SHOTS" with magic weights and magic locations, I don't care.. whatever floats your boat. It's all entertainment to me. lol
YO, Chek sig
you have debunked nothing other than taking travel jams methods to extreams by putting crazy amounts of lead at grip/bumper rendering it usless at 500 plus grams. http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=3286089&postcount=156 Fact still remains that certain amounts/shapes/ locations of lead above grip produces stable powerful PLOW throw shots, THAT ARE MANAGEABLE AND MANEUVERABLE, they are MAGIC TO ME and have improved my game. You are right, I do not care if the whole world feels otherwise, you are a bit late to the party, this has been discussed few years ago, glad all this is entertainment to you, tell your wife that.
like I said you have not tried JC methods, when you do come back to us.
and you have not tried JC stringing methods either, which complements his weighting/balancing methods,
Guys, let's keep this thread upbeat
It was all going so well-- a TW thread without personal attacks and insults-- and now 160 posts later it's starting to feel like yet another thread where folks start taking stuff personally. Let's let the heavy racquets do our talking, unless someone else out there wants to keep track of adding new members to the group. I , for one, really don't want to read this kind of crap and have much better things to do with my time, like hitting balls now that the rain is going and we're getting some sun in Portland for a change....
can i jump in? jajaja.
i now hav a modded ag100 at 364g and SW 335. if i get warmed up right it seems to be ok. if not i play like a wimp. but love the solid feel of "weight"
Off topic, but just curious.
Why not $60 or $65?
Sorry, I have OCD and weird numbers bother me.
haha. as weird as it sounds nobody has ever asked! i always ppl would ask why why why.
yeah what it is typically i seem to be paying arnd $8 (if i avg out) for shipping to conusa. so i figured i'd try it.
hasnt worked unfortuntely.
..in fact...few weeks ago i had it at $62.70 i think...to be very precise abt the shipping which is $7.70
huh? do you actually play with this...thing?
hey Jolly...jus wonderin. i hav looked at ur videos. i'm just not able to figure out how u hit the ball so hard and keep it in? i mean surely u look like u hav played a long time, but still you are not a heavy topspin guy i dont think.
dang u hit hard!
I used to be a very heavy topspin player, but I hurt my wrist really badly in June of 07.
So where I used to hit top all the time, and flatten out when I needed to, now I hit flatter and use the heavy top when I need it.
It also depends a lot on who I am playing. If the other person hits less pace, then I use more top, if they hit more pace, then I flatten out.
Also depends on what vids you watch.
I am more than capable of hitting wicked topspin though .
As for hitting hard and keeping the ball in, the video doesn't do the spin justice. Even my very flat looking shots have a LOT of spin on them, they are just flat in trajectory.
Oh yea, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that I am more than capable of mistiming one and sending it into the back wall on a dead straight line.
I just edit them out of the videos lol.
can you remember the time when you were playing with a 330+ SW racq. what changed and how did you move to 400+ how does this work. i find i started with 320..then putzed arnd with 333, then went back to 325 and now hitting with 335. anything more is scary
I hit a much loopier ball with the unleaded N90. And my 2nd serve had much less MPH on it. My ball in general was much lighter, but still certainly heavy.
Just a curiousity...Are there any benifits of having a really high static weight (13.5 oz+) racquet with a really headlight set up (15-20+ points headlight)?
I have an old twintube Radical Zebra fully capped with MG Prestige midplus grommet stung with 17 guage strings and the final weight is around 12.9 oz at 4-5 pts headlight. Last night I added 20 grams of lead weight into the buttcap inside the handle just to experiment and now the final weight is 13.6 oz with 10-11 pts HL. It feel great swinging it around but I will hit with it tomorrow and let you guys know.
You barely need any swing to get nice pace on serves. Volleys are nice too.
WOW...Just came home after swinging this bat for 2 hours and LOVE it. I don't know weather I was having a good day or everthing seems so great for me. This racquet is 13.6 oz but feels nice and comfortable for me. I guess being 11 pt HL helps but I'm just please how well I hit with it. With extra weight, I was worry about my 1 handed BH but I felt like I was improving with this extra weight. The stability is fantastic. My swing might be a bit slower but with a good foot work and prep...it this very rewarding. My hitting partner was telling me that my balls are heavier and more spin. I guess I was hitting through the ball more with this extra weight. I picked up my other Radical TT stock (12.6oz) and it felt like a plastic. I might get a new Kpro staff 88 and pack 10-20 grames inside the handle by the buttcap and take it out for a swing.
Does anyone here use 13.5oz+ as the main stick?
Hi, I currently use the Microgel Radical Midplus. Their static weights are around 11.2-11.3 oz. I had the opportunity to hit with a K90 the other day, and I really liked it. The problem that I consistently had hitting with it was that it was pretty stiff, and the swingweight was kinda high for me. Since the swingweight was high, I could not generate enough racquet head speed to go past the service line. Off-center hits (I didn't have many, but...) were unforgiving, to say the least. Now the stuff that I did like. I really liked the leather grip. It somehow makes the racquet feel more secure in my hands. I also felt that the racquet had excellent heft and felt really good hitting any ball with any pace. Since you guys are the heavy racquet club that is dominated by mids, can you recommend me a mid that isn't as stiff and has a kind of high weight? That is 11.5 - 12 oz. I might just end up getting a Vantage.
I would suggest to give Microgel Prestige Mid a try. I think it's about 12.2 oz and much easier to swing compare to K90. The flex is about 62 which much softer than K90.
More new member
I've been slackin' lately, so here goes:
The Heavy Racquet Lover's Club
2. HydroYang PROVISIONAL pending use of LEAD TAPE
10. fuzz nation
13. In D Zone
20. Drakulie (until #69 is available)
24. Robby C
31. paintthecorner ? COME ON AND GET WITH IT
42. Dino Lagaffe
44. Jack&Coke-- A Man Among Boys and Honorary Initial Member of The Heavy Racquet Lover's Hall of Fame
52. JO11yroger-- A Legend
69. Reserved for Drakulie
wait i have a question, how many points head light is 1" headlight.
1 point is 1/8 of 1 inch. So 1" is equal to 8 points
Are you kidding me? OMG my racket is like 25-30 pts headlight. Lol i suck at customizing.:shock:
As long as you are comfortable with it...why not!!! May be you can start an Extreme Head Light Club. At least 12 points and up...
my K95x is 360 grams
just finished customize the TT Warrior at 370 grams which I will try to play with
~360 grams k95 16x18.
I'll update the list soon. The more the better!
did you replace your racquet handle with a dumbell handle?
what is your swing speed like?
With all that mass, do you just take a nice easy swing through the zone or do you take a rip at it?
If I used a 13.7 oz stick, my swing would change drastically...maybe for the better.
Take a rip at it.
I used to play with a K90 and loved the heaviness of it. I thought that I was having arm pain due to the weight though, so I switched to a lighter racquet with a larger head size: the Gamma T-7.
However, I've since seen the light and realized it was not the heavy weight causing my arm pain. I decided to stick with my Gamma, b/c I really do like it; it just needed to be heavier.
So I added 24 grams of lead: 8 in the handle, 8 in the throat, and 4 each at 3 and 9 O'Clock, bringing the total weight of the racquet to 356g.
I absolutely love it!
IMO, heavy racquets are great for everything except serving. Granted, if you can efficiently and consistently produce your normal serve motion with a heavy stick, then the results will be great, but I just can't do it.
I was playing K6.1 with a little lead the other day, which was about 12.7 oz and it was fantastic for everthing. Loved shortening my strokes and letting the weight do the work. And, I got off some really heavy serves, but overall, my serve was much more erratic and I tired quickly. 11.7 or 11.8 oz frames are perfect serving frames for me. So much easier to get head speed and keep it up over a longer match.
Kps 88 - 12.8 oz
Jack Kramer (wooden) - 13.2 oz
Ooooh... my K95 is 349g stock, can I join????????
I'll join the club, harryz. I have spent enough time with the 6.1 classic to call it 'home'. 361 grams of pure entertainment. Let me add that I use this because it's the perfect frame for me rather than to present a macho image.
I just switched rackets. I broke my LM4. Now have a 12.5oz MG Prestige mid =D
1. 2 Becker 11s at 360 grams each.
2. One Wilson Jack Kramer woodie at 386 grams.
3. One ProKennex Black Ace at 356 grams.
4. My KPS88 will be here tomorrow. No telling how I will trim it out, but louvres, chrome pipes, and running lights are possibilities.
I'm absolutely loving lead tape. I have a solid game with my main weapon as my forehand. I beefed up my i.Prestige to be a little over 13.1oz and made it a few more points head light as well.
Almost ALL of the results are positive. My pop on the serve, TONS more feel around the net, much better volleying since I can really let the weight of the racquet punch the ball, and my forehand is absolutely ridiculous now (not that it wasn't great before). I played my brother in law today (who's around a 3.0-3.5 player) and I probably had a +20'ish differential on that wing in 2.5 sets.
The only problem with the added weight is this. My backhand is suffering a bit, but it is just a matter of time before I get it dialed in again. The extra heft is making my forward stroke a half a second late and I'm not connecting out in front enough with a straight enough arm. It'll come though.
Can I join? Just picked up three M-Fil 200 18x20. They're only supposed to be 12oz strung, but many people on this board seem to think they're one of the heaviest frames out there.
Best things about the 4 hours I played with these frames for the first time:
Stability at the net
1HBH slice and topspin
Strung them up to test with OG Sheep 17 at 57lbs, and a hybrid of CF 17 / PSGD 17 at 55lbs. Too powerful for doubles, but I played two sets of singles with the hybrid, and it seems just about right.
Still, they are only around 12oz...
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