The insane Djokovic vs Fritz Shanghai semi final highlights

SecondToNone

Semi-Pro
Fritz and “highlights” LOL. Dude just took the place of Ruud. He’s a mug
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Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
That first point sums up the NextGen vs Djokovic. One of the best points I've seen Fritz play, actually.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
I have liked Djokovic more this year than ever before. I think he is a more versatile player, a more complete player.

He's still the same old Djokovic to me, just smarter than ever. Not that that isn't more than enough to win a lot of matches.

He just sits there waiting for the Fritz crosscourt forehand.
 

_phantom

Hall of Fame
Highlights can be misleading. Fritz missed regulation forehands in between those scintillating shots.

Djokovic broke another record today.

He is now the player with the most number of mid-set medical timeouts (official) in history.
 

Drob

Hall of Fame
Highlights can be misleading. Fritz missed regulation forehands in between those scintillating shots.

Djokovic broke another record today.

He is now the player with the most number of mid-set medical timeouts (official) in history.

Where do you find statistics on this?
 

_phantom

Hall of Fame
Where do you find statistics on this?
Half joking.

The number of times he has taken an MTO in the middle of a set has been oddly high in the last couple of years. Probably more than all other top 20 players combined. Something I have noticed.

His MTO-win ratio has be the highest among ATGs too. @jm1980 do you have something?
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
Half joking.

The number of times he has taken an MTO in the middle of a set has been oddly high in the last couple of years. Probably more than all other top 20 players combined. Something I have noticed.

His MTO-win ratio has be the highest among ATGs too. @jm1980 do you have something?

And 90% (if not more) of those MTO happen when he is already ahead and in control of the match. Nothing unsportsmanlike to highlight here. Today he was 1 set up when he took it. When he took one against Cerundolo in RG, he'd just won the opening set 6-1. And so on.
 

_phantom

Hall of Fame
And 90% (if not more) of those MTO happen when he is already ahead and in control of the match. Nothing unsportsmanlike to highlight here. Today he was 1 set up when he took it. When he took one against Cerundolo in RG, he'd just won the opening set 6-1. And so on.
By mid-set I meant when the set is not over. It's not very common among players so it's more noticeable.

RG 23 semifinal against Alcaraz, another example. A few more in between.

It's a bit unsportsmanlike especially when 100% of the time you are able to continue. MTOs should not be taken to break rhythm or take a breather (which I guess was the case today). Fritz was leading 6-5 on serve, right?
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Half joking.

The number of times he has taken an MTO in the middle of a set has been oddly high in the last couple of years. Probably more than all other top 20 players combined. Something I have noticed.

His MTO-win ratio has be the highest among ATGs too. @jm1980 do you have something?
MTO stats are not kept anywhere that I know of
 

Clay lover

Legend
I would refrain from calling anything Fritz-related "insane" but decided I was too judgemental and decided to watch the full highlights. Then...ok. He could hit a few hard DTL forehands here and there to set up for volleys but that was it. He was smart to go down the line or go to the net whenever he had the opportunity but then Djokovic wised up and began passing him left and right. Not to mention because of the nature of his forehand (extreme grip, close to body) he has to exert a lot to just generate pace whereas Djokovic just deflected using flatter swings with ease. Did Djokovic play a good match with his ridiculous gets and stretched passes? Sure. It's almost par for the course for him though. But did Fritz really play "insane"? Not by any stretch of the imagination.
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
By mid-set I meant when the set is not over. It's not very common among players so it's more noticeable.

RG 23 semifinal against Alcaraz, another example. A few more in between.

It's a bit unsportsmanlike especially when 100% of the time you are able to continue. MTOs should not be taken to break rhythm or take a breather (which I guess was the case today). Fritz was leading 6-5 on serve, right?

And he was leading 1 set to 0 against Alcaraz in RG 2023 too, when he took his MTO. Why take the risk to break your own rhythm if you're ahead? It's called self-destruction and It doesn't make sense.

Not common among players? What proportion of tennis matches do you watch? I see players taking MTO and toilet breaks all the time, and most are younger and healthier than 2024 Djokovic.

Players are allowed 1 MTO per match. This is the rule. If one has a pain (minor or serious) he has every rights to take one. The opponent needs to adapt. MTO are only 3 minutes. If that's all it takes to sabotage your opponent then the other guy needs serious psychological help. Fritz couldn't even beat Nadal and Djokovic who had abdominal tears. He didn't lose today because of a MTO,
 
Fritz and “highlights” LOL. Dude just took the place of Ruud. He’s a mug
Fritz has never won a match against Novak (?). He's got movement, ros and a few other issues that prevent him from being a top notch player. I don't know if he's getting to the uso final in any previous era.

If anything, from the slim pickings available, Tommy Paul would seem to have a higher potential than Fritz, but keeps going awol.
 

vex

Legend
This match was just nuts
I’m honestly flabbergasted that he can still play like that without being completely EXHAUSTED and his body breaking down. The sprints, the slides, the defense… His body’s durability is really something unworldly. Rafa couldn’t play this style even when he was 5 years younger than Djoker is now. Fed NEVER even attempted to play this style. Yet both had more injuries. It’s crazy.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I’m honestly flabbergasted that he can still play like that without being completely EXHAUSTED and his body breaking down. The sprints, the slides, the defense… His body’s durability is really something unworldly. Rafa couldn’t play this style even when he was 5 years younger than Djoker is now. Fed NEVER even attempted to play this style. Yet both had more injuries. It’s crazy.
Novak's reach be like:

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NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Ridiculous how he's still sliding fast and furiously into backhands and forehand flicks in a full stretch in both doubles alleys. Sickening.

Imagine how epic Nadal was to lead slam race against this guy who was way faster and moved better, tbh with the way Nadal's speed and movement declined he should have lost the race long ago.
 

AO13

Hall of Fame
Just watched. Novak's movement on the defense is still insane.

That's what I have been saying , his movement and speed is still there and it won him the slam race. He's still moving like he's close to his prime.
It really is jaw dropping that 37 years old guy, no matter which sport he plays and who he is, is moving like that. As a 29 year old who is actively playing amateur basketball (competition between companies) and going regularly to gym, I'm just in awe how good Djokovic is still physically. I wake up in the morning and my both Achilles tendons hurt so much I have to limp first few minutes, my left shoulder is hurt for a year now. Yes, I am not a pro and don't have physios doing job for me every day for hours, but to be in that kind of shape you have to possess incredible work ethic and strong will to follow your extremely strict diet for 20 years, stretch every single day, do yoga and other insanely boring stuff.

I have no excuses, here I am eating a jar of Nutella once a week and consuming 3000 calories a day. He lives a Spartan life and he's been doing it for 20 years now, that's why he is like that at almost 38 and you just have to respect that.​
 
I think Novak's gonna win a few more. Sinner is a bit of a tougher matchup for him than Carlos. But after seeing him beat Sinner handily last wtf and win the Olympics, it's entirely possible he can repeat against Sinner.
 

vex

Legend
Imagine how epic Nadal was to lead slam race against this guy who was way faster and moved better, tbh with the way Nadal's speed and movement declined he should have lost the race long ago.
That’s because Nadal’s FH truly was THAT oppressive against his opponents. Now that all their careers are ending I really believe Rafa’s FH was the best overall. Different from Fed’s which was also great, but just OPPRESSIVE, SUFFOCATING, relentless pressure
@MichaelNadal
 

Tano

Hall of Fame
Highlights can be misleading. Fritz missed regulation forehands in between those scintillating shots.

Djokovic broke another record today.

He is now the player with the most number of mid-set medical timeouts (official) in history.
Djokovic never tires of adding records to his list.
 
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