I started this thread! As usual the topic get lost because, like me, we tend to start by reading the last replies and forget about the beginning idea. Yes I am 64. I play 4.0 mostly with 20 and 30 year old 4.0 and 4.5 players. Over the past two years I have changed my game from hitting heavy top spin with a conti grip to hitting heavy topspin with eastern forehand grip. Conclusion: neither one of these shots are going to blast a 4.5 player off of the court. And the 4.0 player will have equal difficulty with either one. I have developed a beautiful topspin backhand. But I can hit a pretty good topspin backhand with the conti grip too. Conclusion: The beautiful topspin backhand with eastern backhand grip is not going to blow a 4.5 player off the court. The topspin backhand with conti grip works equally as well against a 4.0 player as does the backhand grip. THE TOPSPIN BACK HAND WITH THE CONTI GRIP IS MORE RELIABE. I seem to have more time to prepare for it. I have more time on both shots with the conti grip and I think that not changing grips all the time has a lot to do with it. Add to that, I now do not change grips when I come to the net and to me it just works. The fact that I am 64 has nothing to do with it. I still move quite well and love chasing down balls at full speed and hitting down the line winners. Actually I set that situation up quite a bit as a weapon. This was my point--- Changing the way I play the game did not really prove to be effective for me. Yes I know for sure I look better to the 3.5 players watching. If had a buddy and we just wanted to feed each other shots so we could hit Federer looking backhands back and forth to each other I guess that would make me feel kinda good but I prefer winning. I posted this in case there are others who may be hell bent on looking good but possibly my find they would play better with their own natural style.