The ITF will not release detailed drug testing information for 2010

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What is Gyno and HGH gut?

hgh gut is when users of hgh get a huge muscular midesction due to their expanding internal organs, which is a side effect of hgh use:
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Gyno is gynecomastia. Fatty tissue under nipples from hormone imbalance due to steroid use:
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How about cyclists? Do they exhibit those signs? Yet we know they have been caught using steroids - clenbuterol for example:

http://www.steroid.com/Clenbuterol.php

Fascinating read, here's a few snippets from the article:

So what exactly does a stimulant like Clenbuterol (or Ephedrine) do when it stimulates those Beta Receptors? Well, it serves to increase your body temperature a bit by increasing heat production in the Mitochondria, increase your basal metabolic rate, and decrease your appetite (1). This partly explains how Beta-2 agonists directly stimulate fat cells and increase lypolysis (fat-loss)(1)(13). And also, because Clenbuterol is a Beta-2 agent, clen can decrease insulin sensitivity (2), unfortunately.

And some more ...

Well stick with the earlier 7-9 hour life for dosing purposes, and take our clen every 3.5-4.5 hours that were awake, stopping early enough to still be able to get to bed. Clenbuterol can, in some people, cause insomnia (and as with all stimulants, can cause anxiety in some). Recently, its become popular to take a whopping dose of clen in the morning, and thats it for the day. Theres nothing wrong with this, I guess, but Id rather not go through that kind of roller-coaster of sweating and shaking until it wore off.

some info on

Clenbuterol can also cause a downregulation in testicular androgen receptors and in pulmonary, cardiac and central nervous system beta-adrenergic receptors(6.) possibly making steroids less effective (if there is androgen receptor downregulation elsewhere as well, then its highly probable) while you are on clen; but definitely making clen less effective as time goes on and you keep taking Clenbuterol .

This is where Benadryl comes in...

Like I said, fascinating stuff.

Clen is a bit different to 'normal' steroids though. Clen is actually an asthma medication which improves the cardiovascular system and has the side effect of maintaining muscle while burning fat.

Many bodybuilders for example use Clen while cutting calories for this reason, and many actually consider themselves 'clean' even though they use Clen.

This is where the whole performance enhancing drug thing gets a bit hazy.

Another popular method used by athletes to cut body fat is to combine doses of ephidrene (from Bronkaid etc) and high doeses of caffeine, which effectively acts in a similar, but less potent manner to clen, ie. stimulating fat burning while also preserving muscle. i dont even know if the last method would be enough to get a positive result in a drug test
 

OnceWas

Rookie
My wife is eastern european and follows it closer than some, and she is totally convinced Djokovic is on PED's. I'm not so sure. I hope he's clean.
 
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DeShaun

Banned
If you're taking PED's, you don't suddenly start playing insanely for one tournament.

Rafa was in the zone and was really hungry for his USO title. End of story.

I want to believe this but the degree to which Rafa's results immediately afterwards fell off the radar for the next three months, and the fact that, to date, he still hasn't regained the level of swagger which he had in Fushing last year makes me suspicious. Something seemed off kilter...it was very much out of the ordinary for Rafa's team a week or two before the USO began to announce essentially, "Wait untill you see what he's got in store, he's cooking up a real surprise for you guys;" that's just not how Rafa and his team would normally have approached things going into a slam. And I will be frank with everyone, for the sake of offering you my disclaimer- I perceived or projected a slightly mischievous look in Rafa's eye more than once during the USO tourney last year that I had never seen in him before. He seemd like he knew something that everyone else didn't. Interestingly, I though I detected a similar espression on Federer's face a few times at the French just this year...I have hit with those Roland Garros Babola balls and they seemed to absolutely scream and beg to be struck with a flattish stroke that has just a bit more than enough topspin but not an excessive amount of topspin, positively suited to a ball striker who strikes it the way Roger does...I think he knew those balls were suited in an almost eerily perfect way for him and his game and voila! He ends up having perhaps his greatest run at RG ever.
 
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Clarky21

Banned
I want to believe this but the degree to which Rafa's results immediately afterwards fell off the radar for the next three months, and the fact that, to date, he still hasn't regained the level of swagger which he had in Fushing last year makes me suspicious. Something seemed off kilter...it was very much out of the ordinary for Rafa's team a week or two before the USO began to announce essentially, "Wait untill you see what he's got in store, he's cooking up a real surprise for you guys;" that's just not how Rafa and his team would normally have approached things going into a slam. And I will be frank with everyone, for the sake of offering you my disclaimer- I perceived or projected a slightly mischievous look in Rafa's eye more than once during the USO tourney last year that I had never seen in him before.

You do know the same thing could be said about Djokovic with his gluten-free diet,and magnetotherapy quackery too,right? The same guy who could barely hang with Troicki in the first round of the USO last year,allergies,heat sensitivity,etc is now suddenly an unstoppable beast with unlimited stamina,who physically outlasted the very same guy you accuse of doping up a storm in Miami this year. How come you make no mention of that stuff?

Doesn't feel so good when this kind of garbage is turned around on your favorite player does it?
 

DeShaun

Banned
You do know the same thing could be said about Djokovic with his gluten-free diet,and magnetotherapy quackery too,right? The same guy who could barely hang with Troicki in the first round of the USO last year,allergies,heat sensitivity,etc is now suddenly an unstoppable beast with unlimited stamina,who physically outlasted the very same guy you accuse of doping up a storm in Miami this year. How come you make no mention of that stuff?

Doesn't feel so good when this kind of garbage is turned around on your favorite player does it?

Roger is my favorite player. I like Nole too. Rafa's game may not appeal to me but I cannot deny that he absolutely is a living legend. But yeah, Roger's my favorite.
 

CMM

Legend
They released some information for 2010 and also 2011.

In 2010

Nadal, Federer and Djokovic had 7+ tests in competition and 1-3 tests out of competition.
Murray had 7+ tests in competition and no out of competition tests.

The 2011 link is not working for me. Maybe someone else can see it.
 

CMM

Legend
Now it's working.
In 2011 Nadal had 7+ and 1-3 out of competition (just like the previous year)
Djokovic and Murray the same
Federer 4-6 and 1-3
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Now it's working.
In 2011 Nadal had 7+ and 1-3 out of competition (just like the previous year)
Djokovic and Murray the same
Federer 4-6 and 1-3
Don't you have proper figures. What do you mean by 1-3. If its a range, then that's quite a variation. One is just not enough.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Nobody will ever answer why Nadal had a history of fading in the autumn hardcourt season and then suddenly having stamina and energy in the shiploads in 2010 and thereafter while hitting Ivanisevic serves in the USO. I guess Djokovic's case is equally confusing. :lol:
 

CMM

Legend
Don't you have proper figures. What do you mean by 1-3. If its a range, then that's quite a variation. One is just not enough.

No, I don't have. That's what they posted on their site. But from those stats you can see that in the past 2 years the Williams sisters didn't receive any out of competition test.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
No, I don't have. That's what they posted on their site. But from those stats you can see that in the past 2 years the Williams sisters didn't receive any out of competition test.
No point testing Asterix and Obelix.:)
 
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