The King of Kong's Redemption.

Poisoned Slice

Poisoned Slice

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@optic yellow It happened. :giggle: Bloody Judge Ken Barlow. The amusement will never cease.

''As reported by The Guardian, a Brisbane court concurred that YouTuber and speedrunner Karl Jobst had defamed Mitchell in a 2021 video titled ‘The Biggest Conmen In Video Game History Strike Again!’ and so has to pay him over $350,000 (around £271,000) in damages.

For context, Jobst’s video alleged that Mitchell had cheated to obtain his high scores and had ‘pursuing unmeritorious litigation’ against other individuals over the same cheating allegations. This included a YouTuber by the name of Benjamin ‘Apollo Legend’ Smith, who committed suicide in December 2020. Jobst made the damning accusation that Mitchell’s lawsuit contributed to this, going as far to say that Mitchell ‘hounded Apollo Legend to death.’

The video was later taken down and reuploaded with alterations to Jobst’s allegations against Mitchell. However, judge Ken Barlow still ruled that Jobst had made five defamatory imputations about Mitchell, which included a false assertion that Smith had to pay Mitchell ‘a large sum of money.’

While Barlow did acknowledge that Mitchell had a reputation for suing those who called him a cheater, the point of the case wasn’t to determine if Mitchell was guilty of cheating or not.

In the end, it was determined Jobst had damaged Mitchell’s reputation and caused distress. As such, the court awarded Mitchell $350,000 in damages, with Jobst needing to pay a further $40,000 in interest.''

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Poisoned Slice said:
@optic yellow It happened. :giggle: Bloody Judge Ken Barlow. The amusement will never cease.

''As reported by The Guardian, a Brisbane court concurred that YouTuber and speedrunner Karl Jobst had defamed Mitchell in a 2021 video titled ‘The Biggest Conmen In Video Game History Strike Again!’ and so has to pay him over $350,000 (around £271,000) in damages.

For context, Jobst’s video alleged that Mitchell had cheated to obtain his high scores and had ‘pursuing unmeritorious litigation’ against other individuals over the same cheating allegations. This included a YouTuber by the name of Benjamin ‘Apollo Legend’ Smith, who committed suicide in December 2020. Jobst made the damning accusation that Mitchell’s lawsuit contributed to this, going as far to say that Mitchell ‘hounded Apollo Legend to death.’

The video was later taken down and reuploaded with alterations to Jobst’s allegations against Mitchell. However, judge Ken Barlow still ruled that Jobst had made five defamatory imputations about Mitchell, which included a false assertion that Smith had to pay Mitchell ‘a large sum of money.’

While Barlow did acknowledge that Mitchell had a reputation for suing those who called him a cheater, the point of the case wasn’t to determine if Mitchell was guilty of cheating or not.

In the end, it was determined Jobst had damaged Mitchell’s reputation and caused distress. As such, the court awarded Mitchell $350,000 in damages, with Jobst needing to pay a further $40,000 in interest.''

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Nobody defames Billy Mitchell and gets away with it!

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Poisoned Slice said:
@optic yellow It happened. :giggle: Bloody Judge Ken Barlow. The amusement will never cease.

''As reported by The Guardian, a Brisbane court concurred that YouTuber and speedrunner Karl Jobst had defamed Mitchell in a 2021 video titled ‘The Biggest Conmen In Video Game History Strike Again!’ and so has to pay him over $350,000 (around £271,000) in damages.

For context, Jobst’s video alleged that Mitchell had cheated to obtain his high scores and had ‘pursuing unmeritorious litigation’ against other individuals over the same cheating allegations. This included a YouTuber by the name of Benjamin ‘Apollo Legend’ Smith, who committed suicide in December 2020. Jobst made the damning accusation that Mitchell’s lawsuit contributed to this, going as far to say that Mitchell ‘hounded Apollo Legend to death.’

The video was later taken down and reuploaded with alterations to Jobst’s allegations against Mitchell. However, judge Ken Barlow still ruled that Jobst had made five defamatory imputations about Mitchell, which included a false assertion that Smith had to pay Mitchell ‘a large sum of money.’

While Barlow did acknowledge that Mitchell had a reputation for suing those who called him a cheater, the point of the case wasn’t to determine if Mitchell was guilty of cheating or not.

In the end, it was determined Jobst had damaged Mitchell’s reputation and caused distress. As such, the court awarded Mitchell $350,000 in damages, with Jobst needing to pay a further $40,000 in interest.''

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How.
 
optic yellow said:
How.
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Billy's legal team. Karl's whole case was ''Billy is a cheater.''

I read this on reddit..


  • ''Jobst implied that Mitchell drove ApolloLegend to (or was a factor in his) suicide
  • Jobst stated as fact that Mitchell forced ApolloLegend into paying him money
  • Jobst retracted these statements later, but placed the retraction at the end of a 30-minute unrelated video, in such a way that it was effectively hidden''

''Damn. This is why I stopped watching Jobst. He makes a lot of assumptions and claims them as facts. It gets you lots of viewers, but also leaves you open to getting sued.''

This guy said it best, I think.

''In the end, Karl messed up. He is high on his own supply and must pay the price.''
 
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Again, credit to the reddit poster.

A timely reminder that legal cases are about answering specific questions. Mitchell is no doubt a charlatan, a cheater, has faked scores, and all of that stuff. But this case was about Jobst’s public claims on YouTube that Mitchell caused Apollo Legend’s death.

Those claims materially caused harm to Mitchell and his reputation, and they were not backed up by sufficient evidence (and for a claim of a serious nature like this, the evidentiary burden is high). Jobst is therefore ordered to compensate Mitchell for that loss. It’s a shame, since I personally would like to see Mitchell get his comeuppance. But this was not the accusation to do it with. There is far better evidence for his cheated high scores than the accusations surrounding Apollo Legend. But unfortunately, cheating at video games isn’t against the law, so…
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Poisoned Slice said:
Billy's legal team. Karl's whole case was ''Billy is a cheater.''

I read this on reddit..


  • ''Jobst implied that Mitchell drove ApolloLegend to (or was a factor in his) suicide
  • Jobst stated as fact that Mitchell forced ApolloLegend into paying him money
  • Jobst retracted these statements later, but placed the retraction at the end of a 30-minute unrelated video, in such a way that it was effectively hidden''

''Damn. This is why I stopped watching Jobst. He makes a lot of assumptions and claims them as facts. It gets you lots of viewers, but also leaves you open to getting sued.''

This guy said it best, I think.

''In the end, Karl messed up. He is high on his own supply and must pay the price.''
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Poisoned Slice said:
Again, credit to the reddit poster.
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The last item in the bullet point was not the play. Can you link the reddit post? I always thought there was a mild air of arrogance to Jobst but disregarded it due to the dislikability of the target. Even so with what I'd seen about the lawsuit I did not think it was very possible he would lose.
 
optic yellow said:
The last item in the bullet point was not the play. Can you link the reddit post? I always thought there was a mild air of arrogance to Jobst but disregarded it due to the dislikability of the target. Even so with what I'd seen about the lawsuit I did not think it was very possible he would lose.
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You're probably better off looking at the whole thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/1joh93n/karl_jobst_losses_lawsuit_against_billy_mitchell
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Poisoned Slice said:
''Karl did the impossible: he managed to make himself the villain in a story with BILLY MITCHELL.''

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I am surprised Billy didn't take the opportunity to do a press conference and finish it by promoting his restaurant or hot sauce. Billy never misses an opportunity to promote his favorite thing in the whole world (himself).
 
Purestriker said:
I am surprised Billy didn't take the opportunity to do a press conference and finish it by promoting his restaurant or hot sauce. Billy never misses an opportunity to promote his favorite thing in the whole world (himself).
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I'm going to try and get hold of the hot sauce. One of those try it once situations.

Billy's victory lap was quite something.

''Nothing like the smell of victory in the evening air. Billy Mitchell always has a plan. Thank you to everyone who supported me. I am grateful.''
 
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I'm going to try and get hold of the hot sauce. One of those try it once situations.

Billy's victory lap was quite something.

''Nothing like the smell of victory in the evening air. Billy Mitchell always has a plan. Thank you to everyone who supported me. I am grateful.''
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Gotta be able to find it on Amazon. Maybe it is not exported though.
 
Purestriker said:
Oof. Billy might be the King of Kong but there is zero chance his hot sauce is worth that. If you want some great hot sauces let me know, I can recommend a few options that might be cheaper to ship.
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Well of course I want hot sauce recommendations, though unfortunately none of the ones you suggest will deliver the same meme value.
 
When my father purchased Rickey's Restaurant in 1974, it had failed to turn a profit for almost four years. Arriving from Massachusetts with my mother and five children, he hoped that he could provide a stable living for us by reversing the business' position.

At that time, Rickey's Restaurant served only drinks, cold sandwiches, and hamburgers. Struggling for four years thereafter, the business turned a small profit until October 13, 1978, when Rickey’s Restaurant sold its first order of chicken wings. By the end of 1979, chicken wings alone doubled Rickey’s Restaurant’s revenue. That experience led me and my father to realize that Rickey’s needed its own unique table condiment that delivered the perfect mixture of quality and taste.

That’s when the idea for Rickey’s World Famous Sauce emerged.

My father and I launched Rickey’s World Famous Sauce from Rickey’s Restaurant in 1980. We started by merely wanting to provide Rickey’s Restaurant’s customers with the best hot sauce in the world at no cost. However, due to high demand in the local community, we decided to begin selling Rickey’s World Famous Sauce everywhere.

Since then, Rickey's World Famous Sauce has grown into an internationally recognized brand and featured in several Hollywood productions. To this day, my goal is still to provide you the best food condiments at the best prices on the market.

Remember: It's no good without the sauce.

- Billy Mitchell
 
optic yellow said:
Well of course I want hot sauce recommendations, though unfortunately none of the ones you suggest will deliver the same meme value.
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Hopefully you can get these shipped at a reasonable price.

Tia Lupita Chipotle
Yellow Bird (all their sauces are great)
Pucker Butt Reaper Racha
Pucker Butt Mean Green (or Xtra), love this on eggs and breakfast burritos.
 
Poisoned Slice said:
When my father purchased Rickey's Restaurant in 1974, it had failed to turn a profit for almost four years. Arriving from Massachusetts with my mother and five children, he hoped that he could provide a stable living for us by reversing the business' position.

At that time, Rickey's Restaurant served only drinks, cold sandwiches, and hamburgers. Struggling for four years thereafter, the business turned a small profit until October 13, 1978, when Rickey’s Restaurant sold its first order of chicken wings. By the end of 1979, chicken wings alone doubled Rickey’s Restaurant’s revenue. That experience led me and my father to realize that Rickey’s needed its own unique table condiment that delivered the perfect mixture of quality and taste.

That’s when the idea for Rickey’s World Famous Sauce emerged.

My father and I launched Rickey’s World Famous Sauce from Rickey’s Restaurant in 1980. We started by merely wanting to provide Rickey’s Restaurant’s customers with the best hot sauce in the world at no cost. However, due to high demand in the local community, we decided to begin selling Rickey’s World Famous Sauce everywhere.

Since then, Rickey's World Famous Sauce has grown into an internationally recognized brand and featured in several Hollywood productions. To this day, my goal is still to provide you the best food condiments at the best prices on the market.

Remember: It's no good without the sauce.

- Billy Mitchell
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Such a Billy Mitchell thing to say.
 
''Mr. Jobst clearly intended to be the knight who slew the Mitchell dragon. Unfortunately for him, his lance was not as strong as he had hoped, and it has broken in the contest. Billy's hot sauce was too spicey"- His Honour, Judge Ken Barlow KC''
 
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