The legs are the key to kenetic chain on serve: Agree or disagree?

nereis

Semi-Pro
A good leg drive comes naturally from just trying to hit the damn ball as hard as you can to that one point on the court you want it to go to. Overthinking is something you don't want to do. When you hit a ball you shouldn't be analysing yourself.
 

CoachingMastery

Professional
Having just gotten back from doing a book signing tour, I've missed much on the board. Love the dialogue I've read here.

If I can add my own clarifications on this topic:

The legs are important when used correctly in getting the maximum speed and overall effect of a serve...when all the other elements of the swing path, grip and position are optimized.

Personally, I've seen some pros over emphasize the legs to beginners who had such a terrible motion that no amount of legs (done right or wrong!) would be of help.

I've mentioned my demonstrations of kneeling on my knees and serving at 100 mph...only to show that legs don't have to be emphasized to hit this speed. Yes, I serve about 120 thus one could conclude that the legs (and added leverage due to added height) would add about 20% or so. (I personally think that is generous.)

I teach many drills to incorporate the legs correctly in my students who have mastered the swing path, grip and general stance mechanics of the serve to gain more effect and pace. But, I would never teach the legs (other than the stance and general leg work within a top serve) at the expense of the swing path components.

Thus, I think many here are on the right track...but the biggest statement is probably WHEN would we teach the legs. In my experiences, I've seen where the few students who were taught with greater emphasis on the legs by some pros were far slower in developing a serve that matched their potential. Where I have had 14 year old girls serving over 100 mph, I've seen adult men who have terrible service motions fail to come close to 70 mph with any serve.

All in all, the leg drive on the serve is criticle for a player to reach their full potential in creating the fastest and most effective serve possible.

Thanks for all who also mentioned my books. I hope they are very helpful to those who read them.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Wow I did not know tennis coaching books are popular enough for the author to be called for book tours!
 

dlk

Hall of Fame
Having just gotten back from doing a book signing tour, I've missed much on the board. Love the dialogue I've read here.

If I can add my own clarifications on this topic:

The legs are important when used correctly in getting the maximum speed and overall effect of a serve...when all the other elements of the swing path, grip and position are optimized.

Personally, I've seen some pros over emphasize the legs to beginners who had such a terrible motion that no amount of legs (done right or wrong!) would be of help.

I've mentioned my demonstrations of kneeling on my knees and serving at 100 mph...only to show that legs don't have to be emphasized to hit this speed. Yes, I serve about 120 thus one could conclude that the legs (and added leverage due to added height) would add about 20% or so. (I personally think that is generous.)

I teach many drills to incorporate the legs correctly in my students who have mastered the swing path, grip and general stance mechanics of the serve to gain more effect and pace. But, I would never teach the legs (other than the stance and general leg work within a top serve) at the expense of the swing path components.

Thus, I think many here are on the right track...but the biggest statement is probably WHEN would we teach the legs. In my experiences, I've seen where the few students who were taught with greater emphasis on the legs by some pros were far slower in developing a serve that matched their potential. Where I have had 14 year old girls serving over 100 mph, I've seen adult men who have terrible service motions fail to come close to 70 mph with any serve.

All in all, the leg drive on the serve is criticle for a player to reach their full potential in creating the fastest and most effective serve possible.

Thanks for all who also mentioned my books. I hope they are very helpful to those who read them.

Is this a book for beginners? (3.5)
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Um I'm gonna argue the off hand is the key to the kinetic chain

Nice try, but this is the true key to the kinetic chain in tennis:


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CoachingMastery

Professional
Wow I did not know tennis coaching books are popular enough for the author to be called for book tours!

You are correct in this assumption...

I am ALSO the co-author of the Walt Disney Mystery Series, HIDDEN MICKEY...Sometimes Dead Men DO Tell Tales and the series has become one of the top selling books at the Disneyland Resort. I've been doing a number of book signings at Barnes and Noble stores in CA, NV and UT these past two weeks which is why I've haven't been around!
 

CoachingMastery

Professional
Is this a book for beginners? (3.5)

Tennis Mastery is for every level of player... ESPECIALLY for beginners who don't want to stagnate at levels far below their potential.

By the way, Tennis Mastery 2nd edition will be out in stores soon...with a new Foreword by former Singapore Davis Cup Coach Desmond Oon and corrections on a few typos found in the first edition.

Read reviews on both Tennis Mastery and Coaching Mastery here at Tennis Warehouse for a better take on those who have read them.
 
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