THE MIGHTY PRO STAFF 90 THREAD

THE BEST RACQUET EVER?

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NuBas said:
Anyone by any chance can compare PS90 any iteration to an H19 or H22, when Federer played with the 90, was it a 90 or some pro stock?

I dno much about the H19/22 but heard a lot of players use them?
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fedr never played H19 nor H22. whether his racquet is a stock 90 or some secret custom frame forged in the flames of mount doom, nobody really knows. the k90 is supposed to be rather close to fedr's specs though.
 
letstakeourshirtsoff said:
fedr never played H19 nor H22. whether his racquet is a stock 90 or some secret custom frame forged in the flames of mount doom, nobody really knows. the k90 is supposed to be rather close to fedr's specs though.
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OK but if anyone has played with H19/22 and 90 can you compare differences.
 
ByakuFubuki said:
I could simply come and say the reason for the lack of true players' racquets on the market comes from the lack of true players on the courts, but that wouldn't be accurate, as the vast majority of professionals also play with bigass heads and thick beams.

Wilson's reasoning seems to be pretty straightforward, though, and even though it's already been explained in this thread multiple times by me and others, I can't blame anyone for not going that far back, so I'll repeat it. Basically, they had one of the greatest players of all time (THE greatest, according to the majority of fans) playing with a thin-beamed midsize racquet, and as a result fanboys would have tried to pick said racquet just for that reason, ignoring all its properties, pros and cons. They used to do so and expect god knows what amazing precision and touch, while in most cases having half-assed strokes and being used to light and powerful frames which actually prize a poor technique. Coming from that situation, you need quite a bit of time to adjust to a racquet like the Pro Staff 90 and use it at its full potential. The average person, though, wants immediate results rather than steady progress with a higher ceiling, so they dismiss the racquet as "too difficult to use", "too heavy", "too unforgiving" or "suited only to stark Serve & Volleyers and/or Flat Hitters" after a couple of hits and either come back to their old racquet or buy a tweener from another brand without even trying to find an halfaway (as the Six.One 95 16x18 could be, for example), resulting in Wilson coming across as a brand which specializes in heavy and difficult control-oriented racquets which only very advanced players can use effectively. Now, on the other hand, the great player I mentioned above has switched to the Dark Side a bigger and more "mainstream" frame, so most hacks will think things like "Finally a Federer frame I can use too" or even "I thought the Pro Staff 90 could only be used by someone like Federer. Turns out not even he can do much with that", so Wilson is milking hard on that (totally s#!tt!ng on their own old products since they're there).

Sorry for the long reply, but ranting against Wilson's lack of a real Players' frame on the market is always good to release some negative tension.

That said, would it be THAT unconvenient for Wilson to do something like keep producing the Pro Staff 90 and other classics which you just can't get from other brands in very small batches and without renewing as often as their other lines in order to save a little on production, advertisement etc? Maybe, but I don't see how (this has also been discussed, by the way). It doesn't seem to belong to their plans, though. They've leaked, here's a link to them: https://imgur.com/a/iJix1

Since I managed to restock on my Pro Staff 90s, I lost all the interest I had in Angell (and other frames, for what it's worth, although that new Powerbridge Mid looks darn sexy), but if the Pro Staff gets dialed in, I'd be curious about a comparison with your other frames if you don't mind. By the way, which model is it? Since you called it "Pro Staff Tour 90", it would sound like the very first one.
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Yeah its the one with yellow, towards the start of these ones? Had some powerpads spare so chucked them in. Doesnt seem to make much difference so will probably emit them next time.

Unsure how it compares to the k90 which seems to be a benchmark around here for these frames?

Compared to my TC90 it is lower powered (hence the gut hybrid trial) much more solid due to the 16x19 in a small headsize with pws and maybe a bit easier through the air. I think the TC90 still beats it for serving (maxed out at 190ish on that frame) but the control isn't as pronounced. Also added some lead at 12 to bring that power up, potentially too much at the moment.

Haven't hit with the PS90T that much so will get a more accurate picture in the next few weeks. It makes the TC90 feel a little like a toy, reminds me of the RF97A with how solid it is but loads more feel and lower power/stiffness..

Compared to the TC95 16x19 63ra its much harder to use, lower launch angle/spin and a bit easier through the air. I just went back to my old forehand style so this one is pretty nice although powerful.

Overall, I still think I prefer my old Pure Storm Limited over all new frames at the moment because I gelled so well with it. Extremely low power, great feel, nice weight and great at the net. Unfortunately I sold my frame (second cracked) or I would love to be running around with them still. This is what has drawn me back to the PS90 below and the Prince 93P which seems to be more similar to my PSL than any other frame currently being made. Other options would be to buy a couple new PSLs off the bay and get back to it.

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Has anyone here have tried the Head Graphene Touch Prestige Mid?
I have stopped my racquet shopping addiction a while ago but...this racquet might bring me back to the old ways LOL

Specs seems interesting.
16x19
20mm beam width
337 grams strung 7pts head light

I played with Prestige Classic and Pro Tour 630 before but I have always wished they come in 16x19 pattern (H19 16x19 yesss if only they are not so rare I would snatch one too)
 
travlerajm said:
The camera angle makes it look slower. And my strokes are compact and adapted to faster courts.
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Compact doesnt mean no follow through, the compact part is the initial setup for the swing. The 'ATP' forehand is compact for arguments sake and still has a follow through. The follow through has a vital impact on the stroke because it follows the natural progression of the stroke. The fact that it happens after contact is an argument against your idea. You arent going to be hitting a ball within 1 second of your stroke so no follow through is ridiculous. Your follow through makes your body rigid and reduces power rather than helping...
 
stephenclown said:
Compact doesnt mean no follow through, the compact part is the initial setup for the swing. The 'ATP' forehand is compact for arguments sake and still has a follow through. The follow through has a vital impact on the stroke because it follows the natural progression of the stroke. The fact that it happens after contact is an argument against your idea. You arent going to be hitting a ball within 1 second of your stroke so no follow through is ridiculous. Your follow through makes your body rigid and reduces power rather than helping...
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In my video I am averaging almost 1 shot per second.
 
travlerajm said:
In my video I am averaging almost 1 shot per second.
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You are not on a full court against a real player. This will hinder your progression if you continue stifling your ability to produce a free stroke. You are also breaking between the rally and the follow through wouldnt be an issue. Also they are not 160kmh shots, most players would think their serves are huge but would be struggling to hit 160-170kmh.

You would be in no mans land in a real court. Use this wall for volleys or something so you can improve hand-eye coordination like the following:

 
stephenclown said:
You are not on a full court against a real player. This will hinder your progression if you continue stifling your ability to produce a free stroke. You are also breaking between the rally and the follow through wouldnt be an issue. Also they are not 160kmh shots, most players would think their serves are huge but would be struggling to hit 160-170kmh.

You would be in no mans land in a real court. Use this wall for volleys or something so you can improve hand-eye coordination like the following:

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Working on it:
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kinda funny how you obliterate the follow through on normal ground strokes yet take a purely armed swing at your volleys in that last video (at least there's no takeback, so the starting point is ok). if you watch cara closely, you realize she's using her arm solely for putting the racquet into the right place, there's close to 0 swinging motion.
 
letstakeourshirtsoff said:
kinda funny how you obliterate the follow through on normal ground strokes yet take a purely armed swing at your volleys in that last video (at least there's no takeback, so the starting point is ok). if you watch cara closely, you realize she's using her arm solely for putting the racquet into the right place, there's close to 0 swinging motion.
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Ok. got it. volley like Cara.
 
stephenclown said:
Overall, I still think I prefer my old Pure Storm Limited over all new frames at the moment because I gelled so well with it. Extremely low power, great feel, nice weight and great at the net.
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Did you add any lead to your Pure Storm or run very low string tension? I have the non LTD version and the power is really, really low. But it is ridiculously comfortable on the arm and encourages you to play with a loose swing, which is a good thing. I'm thinking of dropping tension between 35-40 to get some power.
 
Biggles77 said:
Did you add any lead to your Pure Storm or run very low string tension? I have the non LTD version and the power is really, really low. But it is ridiculously comfortable on the arm and encourages you to play with a loose swing, which is a good thing. I'm thinking of dropping tension between 35-40 to get some power.
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How does low tension feel on spin serves?

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Rally said:
How does low tension feel on spin serves?
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My low tension experience is mostly with the RF97A at 35 pounds with Discho Iontec. I found it to be a plus overall. Maybe slightly less predictable in terms of depth, but not wild enough to trigger faults. The first serve gets some extra pop though.
 
Biggles77 said:
Did you add any lead to your Pure Storm or run very low string tension? I have the non LTD version and the power is really, really low. But it is ridiculously comfortable on the arm and encourages you to play with a loose swing, which is a good thing. I'm thinking of dropping tension between 35-40 to get some power.
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Limited was even lower power - 18x20 95, I think yours would be 16x20 98? I used to string at 55 with alu power because I was crazy. I would recommend lower tension now, probably 40 is a good starting tension and work from there. Add a little lead to 12 if it was one of those low swingweight ones to see if it helps as well and good luck! they are great frames, pity that babolat has ruined that classic low RA feel in their newer lineups.
 
Hey guys.
Just received my Ps 90, and it came at 345g with the leather grip.
I'm leaving it at the stringer tomorrow and would like some input. I dont want to spend a great deal of money into strings as currently Im playing once or twice a week.
I was thinking about using wilson revolve at arround 23kg.
Or maybe a hybrid with wilson sensation main and revolve spin crosses at 24kg/23kg.
Any one tried these, or a hybrid with multi/poly.

Champions choice not an option [emoji16]

I'll still use my RF97 as main stick, for the time being just want to test the PS90.

Kimd regards


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andredcastro said:
Hey guys.
Just received my Ps 90, and it came at 345g with the leather grip.
I'm leaving it at the stringer tomorrow and would like some input. I dont want to spend a great deal of money into strings as currently Im playing once or twice a week.
I was thinking about using wilson revolve at arround 23kg.
Or maybe a hybrid with wilson sensation main and revolve spin crosses at 24kg/23kg.
Any one tried these, or a hybrid with multi/poly.

Champions choice not an option [emoji16]

I'll still use my RF97 as main stick, for the time being just want to test the PS90.

Kimd regards


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I dunno about the strings in this case, but 23 kg is too high if that’s what you string at in your RF97A normally.


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andredcastro said:
Hey guys.
Just received my Ps 90, and it came at 345g with the leather grip.
I'm leaving it at the stringer tomorrow and would like some input. I dont want to spend a great deal of money into strings as currently Im playing once or twice a week.
I was thinking about using wilson revolve at arround 23kg.
Or maybe a hybrid with wilson sensation main and revolve spin crosses at 24kg/23kg.
Any one tried these, or a hybrid with multi/poly.

Champions choice not an option [emoji16]

I'll still use my RF97 as main stick, for the time being just want to test the PS90.

Kimd regards


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I don't like Sensation very much. I recommend Prince Premier Control instead. Try that in the mains and Revolve in the crosses. For multi or gut hybridized with poly, I like 50 lbs in the mains and 47 lbs in the crosses. That's around 23kg and 21.5kg I think.

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Rally said:
I don't like Sensation very much. I recommend Prince Premier Control instead. Try that in the mains and Revolve in the crosses. For multi or gut hybridized with poly, I like 50 lbs in the mains and 47 lbs in the crosses. That's around 23kg and 21.5kg I think.

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Thanks for the feedback. His currently out of stock for the prince strings, the options are babolat or Wilson (for multi). I'll see.


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andredcastro said:
Hey guys.
Just received my Ps 90, and it came at 345g with the leather grip.
I'm leaving it at the stringer tomorrow and would like some input. I dont want to spend a great deal of money into strings as currently Im playing once or twice a week.
I was thinking about using wilson revolve at arround 23kg.
Or maybe a hybrid with wilson sensation main and revolve spin crosses at 24kg/23kg.
Any one tried these, or a hybrid with multi/poly.

Champions choice not an option [emoji16]

I'll still use my RF97 as main stick, for the time being just want to test the PS90.

Kimd regards


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I would normally go Vokl power Fiber II/Luxilon Alu Power Rough strung @48.5/45 IBS.

But you can also try 46/43 IBS.

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Bender said:
I dunno about the strings in this case, but 23 kg is too high if that’s what you string at in your RF97A normally.


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Thanks.
On the RF I use Luxilon alu lower rough at 26kg. As soon as the tension drops bellow 24kg I start having control problems as I tend to prefer flater shots.

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ttc2000 said:
I would normally go Vokl power Fiber II/Luxilon Alu Power Rough strung @48.5/45 IBS.

But you can also try 46/43 IBS.

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Thanks.
But do you string alu power rough with diferent tension on main and crosses?
Never tested that with a full set of polly, I just do diferent tension on hybrid set up.

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andredcastro said:
Thanks.
On the RF I use Luxilon alu lower rough at 26kg. As soon as the tension drops bellow 24kg I start having control problems as I tend to prefer flater shots.

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24 kg on the RF97A is not the same as 24 kg on the PS90. But since you string higher on the 97 anyway, a ~2 kg drop should be more than enough to start with.

Have fun!
 
Bender said:
24 kg on the RF97A is not the same as 24 kg on the PS90. But since you string higher on the 97 anyway, a ~2 kg drop should be more than enough to start with.

Have fun!
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Thanks.
I went with wilson nxt duo hybrid, with mutil mains and poly crosses. 24kg/23kg.
Can't wait to hit the court this weekend.

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andredcastro said:
Thanks.
But do you string alu power rough with diferent tension on main and crosses?
Never tested that with a full set of polly, I just do diferent tension on hybrid set up.

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My setup is a hybrid and that's the tension I use.

For a full bed of Luxilon Alu Power Rough I've strung the mains@42 IBS and the crosses@40 IBS.

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andredcastro said:
Thanks.
I went with wilson nxt duo hybrid, with mutil mains and poly crosses. 24kg/23kg.
Can't wait to hit the court this weekend.

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That's tight and you will feel it on a smaller headsize frame.

I once tried 52/49 IBS in a hybrid setup and I hated it.

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ttc2000 said:
That's tight and you will feel it on a smaller headsize frame.

I once tried 52/49 IBS in a hybrid setup and I hated it.

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I thought it might be a bit tight, but it will allow me to understand how i feel as the strings start to loose tension.
From what I've read here in this thread, and from your feedback, I reckon that the optimum tension will be arround the 23kg or 22kg mark.
But as it is my first time with this racquet, I prefer to go a bit on the high side, to test it for my self.
But I really apreciat the input, I won't go to the court with High hopes.

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So just came from a 2h match and comparded with rf 97, side by side.

The trade off, control/power is quite noticeble. With all the good and bad that comes with it.

I'll mirror what others have said, you really need to have your footwork going, otherwhise you won't be using the racquet to full potencial.

There were some things that were unexpected. I haven't played with a sub 95 for like 20years, and I've read every where that this is a demanding racquet, so I was a bit scared, but after 3 shots I found my self questioning, what the hell are these people saying, I had no problems using this raquect, no shanks and the sweet spot is big enough to find it in almost every shot, yes it is not as big as a 100 or 97, but do you really need such a big sweet spot?
I was also expecting it to have the stability and plow of the RF97, but is not the same, falls a bit short from what I'm used to.

I loved the Ps 90 particularly on kick serves and slice serves, not so much on flat serves as it lacked the power of the RF 97, still a good pace, I was able to hit some aces due to great placement.

I could generate good power from the base line and was able to hit some crazy angles.

Not going to coment on volleys as I was having a crapy day at net.

I switched to RF 97 in the 2nd set, it felt slugish... But. The put away power and the plow are like no other, suitched back to the Ps 90 after 3 games, I was loosing 3-0 still came back to win 6-7 [emoji23]

Probably next time I string it I might go a bit lower, as I was advised in this thread.

Now, it is too early to say if I'll do the switch to the Ps90, I'll need to play some more.

Just for reference I play with a semi-western or eastern grip (depending on the shot I want to make) on forehand, and a one hand backhand.

Thank you all for previous comments.

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andredcastro said:
So just came from a 2h match and comparded with rf 97, side by side.

The trade off, control/power is quite noticeble. With all the good and bad that comes with it.

I'll mirror what others have said, you really need to have your footwork going, otherwhise you won't be using the racquet to full potencial.

There were some things that were unexpected. I haven't played with a sub 95 for like 20years, and I've read every where that this is a demanding racquet, so I was a bit scared, but after 3 shots I found my self questioning, what the hell are these people saying, I had no problems using this raquect, no shanks and the sweet spot is big enough to find it in almost every shot, yes it is not as big as a 100 or 97, but do you really need such a big sweet spot?
I was also expecting it to have the stability and plow of the RF97, but is not the same, falls a bit short from what I'm used to.

I loved the Ps 90 particularly on kick serves and slice serves, not so much on flat serves as it lacked the power of the RF 97, still a good pace, I was able to hit some aces due to great placement.

I could generate good power from the base line and was able to hit some crazy angles.

Not going to coment on volleys as I was having a crapy day at net.

I switched to RF 97 in the 2nd set, it felt slugish... But. The put away power and the plow are like no other, suitched back to the Ps 90 after 3 games, I was loosing 3-0 still came back to win 6-7 [emoji23]

Probably next time I string it I might go a bit lower, as I was advised in this thread.

Now, it is too early to say if I'll do the switch to the Ps90, I'll need to play some more.

Just for reference I play with a semi-western or eastern grip (depending on the shot I want to make) on forehand, and a one hand backhand.

Thank you all for previous comments.

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Welcome to the club. The PS 90 2014 has a low swing weight of 325 compared to the Pro Staff Six One 90 2012 has 327 and the K factor Six one tour 90 2007 has the most 336.

The RF97 has 334.

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andredcastro said:
So just came from a 2h match and comparded with rf 97, side by side.

The trade off, control/power is quite noticeble. With all the good and bad that comes with it.

I'll mirror what others have said, you really need to have your footwork going, otherwhise you won't be using the racquet to full potencial.

There were some things that were unexpected. I haven't played with a sub 95 for like 20years, and I've read every where that this is a demanding racquet, so I was a bit scared, but after 3 shots I found my self questioning, what the hell are these people saying, I had no problems using this raquect, no shanks and the sweet spot is big enough to find it in almost every shot, yes it is not as big as a 100 or 97, but do you really need such a big sweet spot?
I was also expecting it to have the stability and plow of the RF97, but is not the same, falls a bit short from what I'm used to.

I loved the Ps 90 particularly on kick serves and slice serves, not so much on flat serves as it lacked the power of the RF 97, still a good pace, I was able to hit some aces due to great placement.

I could generate good power from the base line and was able to hit some crazy angles.

Not going to coment on volleys as I was having a crapy day at net.

I switched to RF 97 in the 2nd set, it felt slugish... But. The put away power and the plow are like no other, suitched back to the Ps 90 after 3 games, I was loosing 3-0 still came back to win 6-7 [emoji23]

Probably next time I string it I might go a bit lower, as I was advised in this thread.

Now, it is too early to say if I'll do the switch to the Ps90, I'll need to play some more.

Just for reference I play with a semi-western or eastern grip (depending on the shot I want to make) on forehand, and a one hand backhand.

Thank you all for previous comments.

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Consequently, but perhaps oddly, my single hand backhand is better with the 90 sq inch as oppose to any other size. Come to think of it, all my strokes are better with it maybe with the exception of a backhand serve return.

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andredcastro said:
There were some things that were unexpected. I haven't played with a sub 95 for like 20years, and I've read every where that this is a demanding racquet, so I was a bit scared, but after 3 shots I found my self questioning, what the hell are these people saying, I had no problems using this raquect, no shanks and the sweet spot is big enough to find it in almost every shot, yes it is not as big as a 100 or 97, but do you really need such a big sweet spot? [...]

I loved the Ps 90 particularly on kick serves and slice serves, not so much on flat serves [...]
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Oh, how unusual. All these comments on small headsizes being so demanding and suited only to old-school flat-hitters always come from such well-informed people... and anyone who actually did play with the Pro Staff 90 realizing what they do right/wrong and what actually depends on the racquet agreed with these opinion without failing so far.
 
Quick question for you guys, I have a habit of scraping my 90 down to the bare graphite/foam sometimes and I'm not sure if it affects performance but I feel a difference in how it plays and vibrates. Do you think the 90 is more prone to cracking or something along these lines much more than another racquet?
 
I had a good deal - $50 AUD ($40 US) for pro staff tour 90 but didn't gel with it, sold for 175. easy.

Are the K90s much different in feel and power?
 
NuBas said:
Quick question for you guys, I have a habit of scraping my 90 down to the bare graphite/foam sometimes and I'm not sure if it affects performance but I feel a difference in how it plays and vibrates. Do you think the 90 is more prone to cracking or something along these lines much more than another racquet?
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Possibly--a round beam is far more sturdy (and therefore stiff) than a square one, so the racquet may well be more fragile...
 
Bender said:
Possibly--a round beam is far more sturdy (and therefore stiff) than a square one, so the racquet may well be more fragile...
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If Wilson were to re-release this racquet, I'd like for them to reconsider the bumper guard since its so thin and this is the second time I have eaten into the graphite very deep. I am not overly harsh with the racquet but I do tend to scrape one side of the racquet down to the graphite and its not like I slice much either or maybe its what you mentioned, it being a box-square beam it may be prone to catching on the pavement with its corner sticking out.
 
NuBas said:
Quick question for you guys, I have a habit of scraping my 90 down to the bare graphite/foam sometimes and I'm not sure if it affects performance but I feel a difference in how it plays and vibrates. Do you think the 90 is more prone to cracking or something along these lines much more than another racquet?
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Maybe the BLX2 series had particularly bad paint quality or something, because it happened on the throat of my Pro Staff 95 as well, but never on any of my Pro Staff 90 (despite the older one being all beat down, as I've been using that one for about twice as much as the 95).
NuBas said:
If Wilson were to re-release this racquet, I'd like for them to reconsider the bumper guard since its so thin and this is the second time I have eaten into the graphite very deep. I am not overly harsh with the racquet but I do tend to scrape one side of the racquet down to the graphite and its not like I slice much either or maybe its what you mentioned, it being a box-square beam it may be prone to catching on the pavement with its corner sticking out.
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I use Wilson Racket Saver (and some electric tape) for that. If I recall correctly, you live in the United States, which is good for you, as you can get Gamma Guard Head Tape at about half the price for more than three times the length. Since the Pro Staff is so thin, you can cheap on that by cutting it at half before applying, too.
 
NuBas said:
If Wilson were to re-release this racquet, I'd like for them to reconsider the bumper guard since its so thin and this is the second time I have eaten into the graphite very deep. I am not overly harsh with the racquet but I do tend to scrape one side of the racquet down to the graphite and its not like I slice much either or maybe its what you mentioned, it being a box-square beam it may be prone to catching on the pavement with its corner sticking out.
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I like the bumper guard. If they re-release the racquet, then I can get a new set to keep playing the PS90. If they don't release, I will have to find another racquet eventually.
 
ByakuFubuki said:
Maybe the BLX2 series had particularly bad paint quality or something, because it happened on the throat of my Pro Staff 95 as well, but never on any of my Pro Staff 90 (despite the older one being all beat down, as I've been using that one for about twice as much as the 95).
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I am aware of bumper guard tape but really they do not do much, they are as thin as band aids, I had better success with Gorilla tape.
This is what the cuts look like except even deeper.

WarrenMP said:
I like the bumper guard. If they re-release the racquet, then I can get a new set to keep playing the PS90. If they don't release, I will have to find another racquet eventually.
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I do love the look of it but for me it does poorly at protecting hoop and I'm not even harsh with my racquet.
 
Hit with a full bed of Discho Iontec @ 28lbs today and loved it. Tried 35lbs but it still felt a bit boardy. At 28 the stringed opened up nicely and there is finally some liveliness like you experience with a natural gut hybrid. Getting some easy depth at last. Feel is much much better. Think I found my ideal tension.

I have the same frame as the picture above, but with a 4 inch strip of lead at 12 and the leather grip swapped for a light synthetic.

On the RF 35-40 lbs range gives me the same string bed feel.
 
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