The most aura-less grand slam final in history
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Get your Snax ready 
I'm certainly not hyped about this match, but THE most aura-less one is way too harsh.
The #1 player in the world (who also had a very recent PED controversy) against potentially the first local winner since over 20 years. Not an aura that interests ME personally, but I accept that for some people it has a big aura.
Compare this to let's say Cilic vs Nishikori in 2014, when everyone wanted to see another Big 4 clash (yes, Murray was part of it back then, even though he had a bad year). Back then BOTH finalists were a letdown. Now both finalists are interesting, at least for the locals.
And I don't even need to mention many 90s RG finals between players who didn't really make an impact for the rest of the season. No, objectively seen this final here should be somewhere in the middle of all Open Era Slam finals in terms of pre-match hype.
The #1 player in the world (who also had a very recent PED controversy) against potentially the first local winner since over 20 years. Not an aura that interests ME personally, but I accept that for some people it has a big aura.
Compare this to let's say Cilic vs Nishikori in 2014, when everyone wanted to see another Big 4 clash (yes, Murray was part of it back then, even though he had a bad year). Back then BOTH finalists were a letdown. Now both finalists are interesting, at least for the locals.
And I don't even need to mention many 90s RG finals between players who didn't really make an impact for the rest of the season. No, objectively seen this final here should be somewhere in the middle of all Open Era Slam finals in terms of pre-match hype.
ibbi
G.O.A.T.
'They' as usual, are dumb. The final here 10 years ago has it beat, the 96 Wimbledon final FLATTENS it. Agassi and CLEMENT, Agassi and SCHUTTLER. GASTON GAUDIO! That's without getting into those Australian Open's 40 years ago.
The world number 1 looking for his second major, to legitimize himself, a cloud of controversy hanging over him, and the first American guy in a major final in 18 years at the US Open? A person would have to be overwhelmed by their own idiotic bias in order to consider this the most auraless slam final IN HISTORY.
Or born yesterday. You wouldn't expect anything less from the people who think tennis began in 2005, to be fair.
The world number 1 looking for his second major, to legitimize himself, a cloud of controversy hanging over him, and the first American guy in a major final in 18 years at the US Open? A person would have to be overwhelmed by their own idiotic bias in order to consider this the most auraless slam final IN HISTORY.
Or born yesterday. You wouldn't expect anything less from the people who think tennis began in 2005, to be fair.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Hahahaha the worst looking snacks i've ever seen. Fantastic post friend.Get your Snax ready
ibbi
G.O.A.T.
Pretty sure in this context it's just another way of saying big occasion, BIG FIGHT FEEL, that kind of thing.
Nate7-5
Hall of Fame
So the #1 player in the world vs. a 26 year old American that has been grinding forever to make a major final doesn't have enough of an "aura?" Sign me up!
AO13
Hall of Fame
No way it's worse than Cilic - Nishikori.
Here at least we have a number 1 seed who's been playing fantasticly since the end of the previous season, he's young, already has 1 Grand Slam title, few Masters 1000 titles and he'll probably win a lot more of them. Fritz is also a Masters 1000 winner, he's pretty solid, an American playing in the final of American Grand Slam tournament. It'll be a good match and I'm excitet about it.
Cilic - Nishikori was a disaster of a final.
Here at least we have a number 1 seed who's been playing fantasticly since the end of the previous season, he's young, already has 1 Grand Slam title, few Masters 1000 titles and he'll probably win a lot more of them. Fritz is also a Masters 1000 winner, he's pretty solid, an American playing in the final of American Grand Slam tournament. It'll be a good match and I'm excitet about it.
Cilic - Nishikori was a disaster of a final.
Racquet_smash
Semi-Pro
Roland Garros 2004 was far worse lol. Coria was far from charismatic and Gaudio is Gaudio.
pirhaksar
Professional
The number 1 in the world is going against the no 1 American player at the American open. Not sure how that is not a decent final with something in it for the crowd to get involved as well and even do some dumb USA chanting…aura enough. Rest should play with their Fedal dolls.
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
I like Fritz, but he lacks stage presence. If he was in my band, he had to the dumb drummer or a good looking synth geek with RayBan Aviators, placed in the background.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
No, Nishikori vs Cilic was worse.
KingCarlitos
Hall of Fame
Fritz has zero aura, Both Alcaraz and Sinner will pump him Into a mesh of flesh and organs.
Zardoz7/12
Hall of Fame
We've been fed on a diet of the big 3 + Murray, Del Potro, Wawrinka for the best part of 20 years.
Nothing lasts forever.
Nothing lasts forever.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
RS
Bionic Poster
Get your Snax ready
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
RaulRamirez
Legend
I'm not sure how to judge this, but do get the point. To many, Sinner doesn't have that "it" factor, or 10% of the charisma that Alcaraz has. But he is a great tennis player, and Fritz is a worthy finalist. Charismaticallt, it lacks something, but could produce high-level tennis.
I also get the Cilic v Nish parallel, as they upset two pretty good players in the semis. That said, Cilic played amazingly well at the 2014 USO...like an 09 Delpo. Too bad we didn't see that level - or a more durable Nishikori, as he had lots of game - more often.
I also get the Cilic v Nish parallel, as they upset two pretty good players in the semis. That said, Cilic played amazingly well at the 2014 USO...like an 09 Delpo. Too bad we didn't see that level - or a more durable Nishikori, as he had lots of game - more often.
RS
Bionic Poster
It actually tastes pretty nice but I am not too up for the final either. Going to watch though.
dannyslicer
Semi-Pro
I love tennis without the same predictable Big 3.
Good riddance. Real tennis is back.
Good riddance. Real tennis is back.
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
No the most aura-less final was Cilic vs. Nishikori in 2014...LOL This is nowhere nearly as bad (bad - yes, but not AS bad...)
I AGREE- LOL! Being an Italian American, I will be happy, whoever wins.
RaulRamirez
Legend
Perhaps, only because of who they beat in the semis.
Cilic and Nishikori "deprived" us of Fed v Novak, at least one or the other.
Sinner and Fritz ""deprived"" us of Draper v Tiafoe.
Big difference there.
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
Does it really matter though now that neither Foe nor Draper reached the final? We are discussing and comparing facts, that are happened, not hypothetical alternative scenarios that COULD have happened...yes i understand that the alternative in this case would be even more dreadful, but that's besides the point...
I recall seeing Federer on TV saying, no one was going to beat Cilic the day he lost to him. I believe Nishikori beat Djokovic in the semis that year, as well.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
He's got this extremely weak draw to win a slam and many people are already hyping him through the roof. His only real challanger en route was Medvedev who made almost 60 Unforced errors and still could've taken the match to a 5th set.
What a mess!!
RaulRamirez
Legend
Ironic, in that I'm probably the least likely active poster to analyze hypothetical matches. One of the least likely.
My point was simply that the 2014 USO Final likely made this dubious list of aura-less matches in large part because of who they defeated in the semis. That's all.
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
Is that recent? Does Fritz spend time with his kid?
Mainad
Bionic Poster
zagor
Bionic Poster
Wait, you're saying that it's possible to enjoy tennis without the Big 3 and all the GOAT BS/wikipedia stats involved?
Now that's just weird.
ghostofMecir
Legend
The problem is definitely Sinner because of everything other than tennis dominance. While he is on court, he is truly a dominant player on court who is so incredibly difficult to get ahead of in rallies in an era of baseline grinding. Watching Paul and Draper and others redline only to stay even at best is crazy to watch.
But he lacks presence. The kits Nike has for him are terrible. The skinny frame + the hat look is terrible “aura” for a #1 player like him. It‘s unfortunate for tennis overall that he’s going to be a dominant player for likely years and years.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Looks like a Djoker snack.Get your Snax ready
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Was it bad for Djoker?
Having someone to root against is not a bad thing as long as they are good.
ghostofMecir
Legend
Eh, it’s different for Djoker since he was an island fighting against Fedal. Also, Djoko has more presence on court. Honestly I think just taking off the hat would be a big move going forward. Also, nobody is even rooting against Sinner to be honest. I was at the Sinner/Draper match and the crowd was rooting for Draper (the underdog, demonstrative, good-looking) but wasn’t against Sinner.
zagor
Bionic Poster
1999 Australian Open final says, "hi."
Kafelnikov was the boss.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Worked for Djoker lol. That hat crap annoyed me.
zagor
Bionic Poster
You don't think Alcaraz is gonna be right there fighting with him? They're a nice contrast in terms of personality and playing styles.
People are saying?
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
Okay, i must have misunderstood you then, but still...i was talking merely within context of upcoming finals...that is if we simply take those two and compare with one another without digging out, who they had to defeat to reach said finals, just look at it as self-isolated events sort of thing in it's own time capsule...
inflation_era
Semi-Pro
Smart ring.
Recently, I read the Fritz was spending time with his child, who I believe was with him.
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
That's fantastic. Kids have to take priority.
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