The most dominant tennis player in his era is Roger Federer.

skaj said:
I know that you are asking me, and I don’t care about you and your interests, cause you are not the topic here, nor me, nor your interest, nor my gender.
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if you are not willing to tell your gender after I asked, don't grumble if I call you bro. I already told you I am a male, so stop misgendering me.

skaj said:
Yes. Nadal played better tennis in 2008 finals than he did in 2007. If you don’t agree with that, enjoy your opinion.
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I don't have any problem with that at all. My problem is with saying 2007 Wim final nadal was nor peak level Nadal on grass.
 
abmk said:
if you are not willing to tell your gender after I asked, don't grumble if I call you bro. I already told you I am a male, so stop misgendering me.



I don't have any problem with that at all. My problem is with saying 2007 Wim final nadal was nor peak level Nadal on grass.
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When you stop gendering me without knowing my gender, I will stop calling you sis.

Okay, then imagine one physical place higher than all the other places, and another place, it means that the first one is peak and the other one is not.
Not that the that is important for the context of the discussion.

I hope everything is clear now.
 
If we can all define “era” as we wish, I’m going to define an era as two years and call the 2-year stretch from 2014 Wimbledon to 2016FO as an era and call Djokovic the most dominant player - 6 Slams out of 8 played with a semifinal and final in the other two Slams.
 
skaj said:
When you stop gendering me without knowing my gender, I will stop calling you sis.

Okay, then imagine one physical place higher than all the other places, and another place, it means that the first one is peak and the other one is not.
Not that the that is important for the context of the discussion.

I hope everything is clear now.
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That's why I asked you politely about your gender. You didn't respond.

Try calling me sis, I am going to respond with calling you chakka.

peak isn't limited to 1 year, especially for ATGs, LOL.
 
skaj said:
When you stop gendering me without knowing my gender, I will stop calling you sis.
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Out of interest, are you annoyed about the fact that he called you "bro" when you don't identify as male, or just that he assumed you were male when you'd never stated your gender identity?

If it's the latter, then he could actually have been correct, but you still got annoyed, which seems a bit odd IMHO.
 
Phoenix1983 said:
Out of interest, are you annoyed about the fact that he called you "bro" when you don't identify as male, or just that he assumed you were male when you'd never stated your gender identity?

If it's the latter, then he could actually have been correct, but you still got annoyed, which seems a bit odd IMHO.
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if skaj was annoyed I assumed male, that's understandable. I asked the gender. No response on that. That's ridiculous after showing offense at being addressed as a male.
I'm not going to tiptoe and say he/she every single time while addressing.
 
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skaj said:
Feel free to disagree with me, not my problem.

I’ve explained to you, but I need to explain it again obviously. If you are talking about dominance of one player in a certain period, the reductive and simplified criterion which includes simple general statistics and primary school math only is flawed. If you can’t understand the simple truth that a player being dominated in their head to head against the main rival makes the dominance of that player less impressive, feel free to disagree with that too.
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Phoenix1983 said:
Out of interest, are you annoyed about the fact that he called you "bro" when you don't identify as male, or just that he assumed you were male when you'd never stated your gender identity?

If it's the latter, then he could actually have been correct, but you still got annoyed, which seems a bit odd IMHO.
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I am not annoyed by anything here, not that my feelings are the topic of this thread.
 
abmk said:
That's why I asked you politely about your gender. You didn't respond.

Try calling me sis, I am going to respond with calling you chakka.

peak isn't limited to 1 year, especially for ATGs, LOL.
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I responded by saying that your interest in me is not of my concern.

I am not afraid of your threats whatsoever, nor of your childish name calling, sis.

And who said that peaks are by definition limited to one year? Are you laughing out loud at how unintelligent your conclusion is?
 
skaj said:
I am not annoyed by anything here, not that my feelings are the topic of this thread.
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OK. Just to state from my perspective though, if your opinion is that we should all pretend all other posters are genderless and never address people by pronouns like "he" and "she" etc, then I disagree with that approach.

(Still not sure what it is you're bothered about. Of course, you could just be trolling us and laughing about all this, in which case fair enough)
 
Phoenix1983 said:
OK. Just to state from my perspective though, if your opinion is that we should all pretend all other posters are genderless and never address people by pronouns like "he" and "she" etc, then I disagree with that approach.

(Still not sure what it is you're bothered about. Of course, you could just be trolling us and laughing about all this, in which case fair enough)
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Sure, you could just be trolling too.

Especially since there is no need to use a certain gender if you don't know that that is the person's gender. (It doesn't mean you are "pretending that all the other posters are genderless", it means that you don't know the poster's gender and therefore are using any gender.)
 
skaj said:
Sure, you could just be trolling too.

Especially since there is no need to use a certain gender if you don't know that that is the person's gender. (It doesn't mean you are "pretending that all the other posters are genderless", it means that you don't know the poster's gender and therefore are using any gender.)
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There's no "need", but it's also not a big deal if you mistakenly think someone's a male when they're a female, or vice-versa (IMHO).
 
skaj said:
I am of the same opinion.
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Hmm, so why did you then respond to abmk by calling him "sis" when he had addressed you as "bro", complaining about misgendering?

If you didn't think it was a big deal, surely you'd have let the "bro" comment ride?
 
Othangomala, glad to see that for once @abmk is stumped. A debate about gender equality/bias/discrimination is not his area of expertise! :-D:D
 
Phoenix1983 said:
Hmm, so why did you then respond to abmk by calling him "sis" when he had addressed you as "bro", complaining about misgendering?

If you didn't think it was a big deal, surely you'd have let the "bro" comment ride?
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So that the poster can understand exactly what I have explained to you previously.

Not everything I do, I do because it's a big deal. So no. And the discussion was not about someone mistakenly misgendering someone else, but much more than that.
 
abmk said:
1. then why did you say this?

"Okay, then imagine one physical place higher than all the other places, and another place, it means that the first one is peak and the other one is not.
Not that the that is important for the context of the discussion."

When I said Nadal was peak in both Wim 07 final and Wim 08 final

because you are full of sh*t?

2. Its not about interest, its about how to address you since you supposedly had a problem with me calling you bro. I'm not going to use him/her and he/she everytime addressing you or talking about you. You pretended to have a problem with me calling you bro since you were getting crushed on the actual tennis related arguments, chakka.
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Because if something is higher than something else, than both can't be peak, cause peak is the highest.

You can address me without gender.

You are the one who started using gender, I merely responded in the same way, and then you expressed your problem with that, not me, you started the debate about it. Makes you wonder who is that someone pretending they have a problem with gender since they were getting crushed on the actual tennis argument, especially if we go back and look at the tennis part of the discussion and who was actually "crushed" there; plus when you know who suggested the pretending.
 
skaj said:
So that the poster can understand exactly what I have explained to you previously.

Not everything I do, I do because it's a big deal. So no. And the discussion was not about someone mistakenly misgendering someone else, but much more than that.
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Ah, so you basically don't like abmk and/or wanted to annoy him because of the wider tennis argument you were having. I see.
 
abmk said:
LOL, I was busy celebrating India's win over Australia and then with work.
not an expert by any means, but I do know how to call out people's BS about gender equality/bias/discrimination.

Like you said:

if skaj was a female, should have stated so. But didn't. So conclusion is he (yes, he, I'm not going to tiptoe) is full of sh*t.
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Machan, yes what a win that was. And considering that it wasn't a fully equipped Indian cricket team missing several key players! Serves the ****-poor Aussie team well with their poor sportsmanship and sledging, not to mention their shameless racism.
 
Phoenix1983 said:
OK. Just to state from my perspective though, if your opinion is that we should all pretend all other posters are genderless and never address people by pronouns like "he" and "she" etc, then I disagree with that approach.

(Still not sure what it is you're bothered about. Of course, you could just be trolling us and laughing about all this, in which case fair enough)
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there are quite a few non binary(those who use pronoun they)

at my company we have to put our preferred pronouns(he/she/they) in our email sig. if anyone referred to a non binary employee as he or she, **** would hit the fan.
 
Moose Malloy said:
there are quite a few non binary(those who use pronoun they)

at my company we have to put our preferred pronouns(he/she/they) in our email sig. if anyone referred to a non binary employee as he or she, **** would hit the fan.
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Yes, I understand that. People should be addressed as the gender they identify as. That's not really the point of the above discussion though.
 
Phoenix1983 said:
Given that you haven't confirmed your gender identity, the point I raised in post 180 is not applicable to you.
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Yes it is, because it also means that those people should not be addressed as the gender chosen by someone who doesn't know what gender they identify as. Especially if there is no need for it.
 
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