The Musicians Thread!

Marshredder

Semi-Pro
So, anyone in here a musician as well as a tennis player? Thought it would be cool to have a place to chat about playing music. What instrument(s) do you play? What gear do you have? In a band? etc....

I'll post some pics of my stuff when the threads going a bit, but I play guitar, keys, bass, drums, piano, flute (lol) etc.
 

Z-Man

Professional
I think there are a lot of musicians here. I play out fairly regularly. My go-to guitar is a Larrivee D-09E Brazilian, but I also have a Martin D-41 Special that I play quite a bit. When I need an electric, I play a Gretsch White Falcon (double-cut). My favorite effect is a script Phase 90--sounds great on acoustic or electric.
 

SuperFly

Semi-Pro
I used to play french horn back in the day, but I'm done now. I know a tiny bit on guitar and I'm going to start a little piano though.
 

Marshredder

Semi-Pro
I think there are a lot of musicians here. I play out fairly regularly. My go-to guitar is a Larrivee D-09E Brazilian, but I also have a Martin D-41 Special that I play quite a bit. When I need an electric, I play a Gretsch White Falcon (double-cut). My favorite effect is a script Phase 90--sounds great on acoustic or electric.
Awesome guitars you have there :) And yeah, Im a phaser maniac as well, I have a Blackout Whetstone, gorgeous phaser.
 

chollyred

Rookie
I've played drums for over 40 years. Played in several bands when I was younger. Even played on a couple of records. I also play a little guitar and harmonica, although not well enough to play out anywhere, just like to jam with some friends every now and then.

Funny, when playing drums, I have no fear. One of the jazz groups I played in used to play halftime shows for the Atlanta Hawks. But, put me on stage (solo) with a guitar in my hand and I turn into a blithering idiot. Total stage fright!

Pearl Drums with Sabian and Zildjian cymbals.
Takamine A/E and Yamaha Pacifica 302s guitars.
 

SlapShot

Hall of Fame
So, anyone in here a musician as well as a tennis player? Thought it would be cool to have a place to chat about playing music. What instrument(s) do you play? What gear do you have? In a band? etc....

I'll post some pics of my stuff when the threads going a bit, but I play guitar, keys, bass, drums, piano, flute (lol) etc.
You post on HCAF as well, don't you?

I used to post over there a lot, now I'm only on there 2-3 times per month.

Anywho, I'm primarily a guitarist. Currently, I've got a '62 Tele Custom RI in Sherwood Green, a sunburst American Ash Tele with a minihum in the neck, an Epi Les Paul Custom, a pair of LTDs for bang-around (a Viper 400 and a Hybrid 400), along with a G&L L-2500 bass that gets a lot of play around the house. Run through an 18w that I built and a Hughes and Kettner Triamp.
 

Puma

Rookie
I think there are a lot of musicians here. I play out fairly regularly. My go-to guitar is a Larrivee D-09E Brazilian, but I also have a Martin D-41 Special that I play quite a bit. When I need an electric, I play a Gretsch White Falcon (double-cut). My favorite effect is a script Phase 90--sounds great on acoustic or electric.
Z, I have a couple of questions if I may:

Whats your take on Taylor guitars?

Do you feel you can hear the difference between Brazilian or say Indain?


How do you think the average off the shelf Martin stacks up against an average off the shelf Taylor? I mean in consistency maybe not preference of sound?

Thanks
 

jazar

Professional
i have played many instruments and many styles over the past 14 years. the main instruments being cello and bass guitar, and the main styles being classical and jazz. i've played some big venues, like the royal festival hall in london; and some big events, like the world exposition in 2000.
 

YULitle

Hall of Fame
Singing, all sorts for the past... decade, I guess. Was in a band for a minute or two in high school, but mostly I stick to choirs ranging from small(4) to large(100+) ensembles and musicals.

I can also play the piano, cello and saxophone poorly (that's poorly to all three ;).)
 

Z-Man

Professional
Puma:
I'm currently playing in an acoustic duo with a guy who plays a Taylor. I think they make great guitars. I especially like his on-board electronics. He seems to always have a good sound, and he can tweak it right on the guitar. My Martin has a K&K Pure Western Mini in it, and it sounds decent, but it's better when I run it through my LR Baggs Para DI. My Larrivees all have B-Band active USDs in them, and they sound great. Not sure what they're putting in them these days. My Larrivee D-09 is a few years old, I have an older D-03 that is mahogany, and I have a Larrivee Koa parlor guitar that is really fun. It stays on a stand in my bedroom. I guess you could say I'm a fan.

Electronics aside, on the Martin vs Taylor front, I think Martins are really great for strumming. You can play them really hard and they still sound great. A very sturdy guitar. Martins come set up with action that's a little higher, and mine came with .13s on it. I can play small restaurant gigs without plugging it in. That makes sense, because Martins are designed to play acoustically in a folk/bluegrass setting. They needed to be loud, hence the high action and heavy string setup. If you play that kind of music, get a Martin.

Taylors on the other hand are more delicate instruments. They come with lighter strings and lower, faster action setups. If you play a lot of complicated chords and you're all over the neck, this kind of setup is ideal. Taylors focus more on the electronics because they are meant to be plugged in. A Martin guitar is designed to project sound. A Taylor doesn't need to project--that's what the PA is for. It's just meant to be played, and thus Taylors are easy to play. They are great if you have a light touch, use a flexible pick, etc. Martins are better if you're going to be sawing away.

My friend's Taylor was knocked over at a party once, and the back split in one place. I don't think my Martin or my Larrivee would have split like that--they are just heavier duty guitars.

Of course Martin doesn't just make dreadnoughts, and you can always lower the action or use lighter strings. But in general, I'd pick based on the way you play (how hard you strum) and what kind of music you play. If you shred or play Dave Matthews, get the Taylor. If you are a strummer, get the Martin.

Or, you can get something in between--a Larrivee. In general, Larrivees have fast action like the Taylors, but they are also build for strumming like Martins. When I was buying my nice Larrivee, I played the Taylors, but they sounded weak and too new-age acoustic to me. All top and no balls (they are also cut away, which makes a difference in the sound). Of course, I was just playing in the store and not hooking them up to a PA. The Martins sounded great, but they were too hard to play. I ended up choosing Larrivee because it's in between. I don't think the source of the rosewood makes a difference. I was just lucky that Guitar Center had discontinued selling Larrivee, and they were looking to clear the brazilian at a very low price.

Play one of these before you decide. Can't believe how pricey they have become. My Larrivee D-03 was $400 used (mahogany). I'm sure you can get a better price at a store.
http://www.larrivee.com/instruments/acoustics/D03RE.php
 

GPG

Semi-Pro
I've been a guitar player since the age of 10-11. 10 years playing guitar now...

I'll post pics of my gear one of these days :)
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I was a touring artist for a few labels and now record professionally for multiple producers around the world (via the net). I play bass.

I also work in the music business doing A&R and management. I love music so much. It got me to quit junior tennis at 15 and focus on going pro, and it payed off.
 

Puma

Rookie
Awsome reply Z.

I finger pick almost exclusively. I am about a 2.5 to 3.0 player if that means anything. Although I have been playing on and off for 25 years.

I once had an older Gibson ES 335 as I was a Carlton fan as a kid. I had to sell it during a divorce.

I have a Washburn special addition that I bought a couple of years ago. I finger pick several times a week now. I cannot believe all the stuff that is out there on Youtube now. There is some great playing and good instruction. I have figured out lately that I justdon't have the time to really get back into it. But, I still enjoy playing.

Great advice on the differences on the guitars. I have no need to plug in and I don't even own a pick. I used to use quite flexible ones so I guess I have a light touch and I can't stand heavy guage strings. I have always gravitated to light guage strings. I love the nano web strings that are out now.
 

Puma

Rookie
The sound I am looking for is one that has good definition from top to bottom and good intonation. The one I have now has really good mids with good sustain and a really sweet tone. But because of poor intonation the highs (last two strings) are often sour a tad. Big turn off.

The bass end is too mushy. I would like better definition here.

Having played that ES 335 for years has pretty much spoiled me as far as intonation and balanced tone and tuning. I can't stand poor tuning.

This is why I asked about Taylor. From the descriptions I read it sounds like they are made for a guy like me. I need to play a couple and find out. But, I am reluctant to do so. If it sounds sweet, the last thing I need now is a desire to purchase a Taylor. They are pricey.
 

Puma

Rookie
I have heard the same things about Larrivee as you say. I will check them out. Thanks for all the info....
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Taylors are great. I am still endorsed by them, but I will try and not be biased. I believe they are brighter and offer more definition in the lows.

My ideal holy grail is a Martin, but the Taylor is amazing especially for sitting around fingerpicking.
 

Puma

Rookie
Taylors are great. I am still endorsed by them, but I will try and not be biased. I believe they are brighter and offer more definition in the lows.

My ideal holy grail is a Martin, but the Taylor is amazing especially for sitting around fingerpicking.
Yeah, this is what I have heard. This is why maybe I shouldn't try one. I need another guitar like a .......................
 

Puma

Rookie
I play women.

Well, we all do that as well. However, there is considerable debate as to whether a woman ages as well as a fine guitar. But there are numerous comparisons we can make:

-one might wonder if a woman opens up with age like a fine guitar?
-both can be really expensive
-you often mourn the one you let go
-brag as much as you like, but you either make beatuful music with it or fumble around and make a fool of yourself.......
 

Z-Man

Professional
Puma:
Based on your style, the Taylor might be what you're looking for. Here is another option: Try a Larrivee Parlor guitar. I LOVE mine. It is perfect for fingerstyle. So easy to play, great sound without being too loud, and perfectly intonated--I capo all over the place without re-tuning. I love mine so much I even put a pickup in it, and I play it out sometimes.
 

Z-Man

Professional
I was a touring artist for a few labels and now record professionally for multiple producers around the world (via the net). I play bass.

I also work in the music business doing A&R and management. I love music so much. It got me to quit junior tennis at 15 and focus on going pro, and it payed off.
That's really cool, man. Good for you for having made it. I wanted a career in music and even did a short stint at BMI, but I knew I wasn't a good enough musician to make it, and the business side was too difficult to navigate.

If you want to hear some great stories, check out some of Mr Knob's threads here:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=19424904

Later today I will try to find the best story ever written.
 

FlamEnemY

Hall of Fame
I play the guitar... my playing nor my guitar are anythng special though :) I currently have 2 electro-acoustics (sorry if this is the wrong way to call them, can't really thing of a better term), one is Fender and the other is Stagg. I also have a very old pure acoustic, sadly it's in a bad shape and there's probably no way to repair it now.

Well, I also sing bass 2 in a choir. As I started singing I really wanted to be a tenor, but now I feel 100% comfortable with my voice :)
 

Puma

Rookie
Puma:
Based on your style, the Taylor might be what you're looking for. Here is another option: Try a Larrivee Parlor guitar. I LOVE mine. It is perfect for fingerstyle. So easy to play, great sound without being too loud, and perfectly intonated--I capo all over the place without re-tuning. I love mine so much I even put a pickup in it, and I play it out sometimes.

Thanks Z. I will check them out..
 

Puma

Rookie
That's really cool, man. Good for you for having made it. I wanted a career in music and even did a short stint at BMI, but I knew I wasn't a good enough musician to make it, and the business side was too difficult to navigate.

If you want to hear some great stories, check out some of Mr Knob's threads here:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=19424904

Later today I will try to find the best story ever written.

I read some of his stories. Funny, Elgin, Pleasantville, College Station, Mexia, I have been to all those towns.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I love those tales. I can drop many of my own. Here is one:

I was in Dallas and we were opening for Bush. It was in a place called the Ranch Bowl, which is a unique arena.

Anyway, the girls there were gorgeous. They had these southern accents that were out of control and they all looked like beauty queens. Before we played, I met 2 that actually were beauty queens and were sisters. They loved me and my bandmate and immediately asked to see us after the show.

During the show while we played I could see them watching from the back. A girl who was at least a 9, grabbed my monitor wedge and pulled herself up on to the stage so her torso was visible. She looked right into my eyes while I was playing and screamed "I want to F*** you!!!!". The sexual energy of that show was incredible. I felt like I was on drugs.

Anyway, afterwords the beauty queens came after us and were by our side the rest of the night. We ended up making out with them in the venue. Their mom came over and said to be careful because they were underrage. I got the hell out of there, but mine was 17, so it was like the Winger song. We stayed in touch, but by the time she turned 18, I had a GF. Oh well.

Sorry to sidetrack, but I had some great experiences.
 

Puma

Rookie
Z,

Been busy on and off all day. I read the entire thing. Yep, that quite a story. Its funny he keeps denying he is a good writer. He is quite good at telling a story.

I also can relate to many of the things he talks of. I know the type of people he refers to like Gail and her deception, Red the orbiting star and the insensitive band mates who laughed at the one girl. Been there and seen that.

Its strange how we migrate away from that lifestyle and the characters that exist there. Isn't it also stange those who stay there tend to die young?

Thanks for passing that along............
 
Been a saxophonist for nearly forty years now. Studied Indian music, primarily raga, for a fair bit. I'd trade all of my sax experience to be a tabla player.
 

mhstennis100

Semi-Pro
Started saxophone about 8 years ago and played for 6 years. I was pretty good but I got tired of band class. I fool around on a drumset for fun, but I'm not very good. I also got a Yamaha acoustic/electric and a Fender Highway One Tele last year.
 

Brettolius

Professional
Puma:
Based on your style, the Taylor might be what you're looking for. Here is another option: Try a Larrivee Parlor guitar. I LOVE mine. It is perfect for fingerstyle. So easy to play, great sound without being too loud, and perfectly intonated--I capo all over the place without re-tuning. I love mine so much I even put a pickup in it, and I play it out sometimes.
I play a Seagull Grand Artist parlor guitar, just absolutely love it. I have been lately looking at putting a pickup in it so I can use it live, its just so damn comfortable to play! Was looking at the Fishman rare earth line, and was wondering what you decided to roll with? It looks like for some acoustic pickups add a little too much bass, which might be nice for the parlor because it really doesn't have any. Hoping that you had good luck with a pickup because I don't want to do any surgery to my little beauty.
 

Z-Man

Professional
I play a Seagull Grand Artist parlor guitar, just absolutely love it. I have been lately looking at putting a pickup in it so I can use it live, its just so damn comfortable to play! Was looking at the Fishman rare earth line, and was wondering what you decided to roll with? It looks like for some acoustic pickups add a little too much bass, which might be nice for the parlor because it really doesn't have any. Hoping that you had good luck with a pickup because I don't want to do any surgery to my little beauty.
I put the same thing in it that was in my other Larrivees--I think it was a B-Band USD (under-saddle-transducer). It has a tiny metal strip that runs under the bridge and a 9-volt battery. No major surgery required. Sounds great in the other guitars, especially the D-09, but it is a little thin in the parlor. You can fatten it up with eq and effects if you use a POD or an LR Baggs Acoustic Para DI. Some compression and reverb will also help if you're doing fingerstyle live on the parlor.

I could not put the same USD in the Martin because of the way the bridge is glued down, and I didn't want to alter the guitar, so I put a K&K Pure Western Mini in it. That is a very mellow pickup, so it might sound great in the parlor--could tame some of the bite. It is passive, but still fairly hot. It glues to the under side of the bridge. I tried some of the pickups that go in the soundhole, but could not get excited about them. Not sure if they would fit a parlor or not. Maybe I should have gotten a rare earth blend for the Martin instead of the K&K, but I do sometimes gig with a full band, and I was worried about feedback.
 

Z-Man

Professional
I play guitar, currently a a 70's tokai tele with rosewood slab board and van zandt pickups

I did a few recordings at home, here are some short clips, the tele is on each track

http://www.jukeboxalive.com/aimr75

running through an orange rockerverb50 combo
Dude, that's awesome! You are rocking out. How did you record the guitar and drums? The guitar tone is excellent, and the drum sound great--they can be so hard to record.
 

Brettolius

Professional
Dude, that's awesome! You are rocking out. How did you record the guitar and drums? The guitar tone is excellent, and the drum sound great--they can be so hard to record.
No doubt. I also play drums, and I have been seriously considering using some Roland V drums next time I record. While they don't physically feel the same, if you're just trying to lay down a groove and keep it relatively simple then they seem to be the way to go. No messing around with mics and eq and heads and all that b.s. They just sound great straightaway, and you can get a variety of sounds real quick. To properly record acoustic drums takes a great room, great mics, and a lot of wasted time. And there are still no guarantees.
 

bluegrasser

Hall of Fame
I have a Taylor D model and its probably the most user friendly guitar on the market, just easy in the playability dept.
 

aimr75

Hall of Fame
Dude, that's awesome! You are rocking out. How did you record the guitar and drums? The guitar tone is excellent, and the drum sound great--they can be so hard to record.
Hey thanks, with the drums, i dont have enough pre amp channels to record them, so i just use a program called EZDrummer. Its a VST plugin that can be used with apps like Cubase. Its great because it sounds pretty realistic

The guitar i recorded using a Grace m101 preamp and just an sm57 mic. The bass is just DI.

I played all the guitar and bass parts and did the drum arrangement on those :)
 

Z-Man

Professional
I thought the drums might have been from a program, but they didn't sound stale or repetitive at all. I have used Acid Pro and an Alesis drum machine. With Acid Pro you can order CDs of loops by style (maybe a little dated technology now--I don't get out much). I also have an Audix drum mic kit and I've tried a million different placements and compression settings with varying levels of success.

My new drummer has Roland V-Drums, and I'm really starting to like them. I love how we can practice at conversation volume. My wife appreciates that too because we play in my basement. It's also pretty cool how he can change the kit to tabla or something different for certain songs. The best part is recording. Don't have to worry about anything, and you just need one stereo track to record them. With my old setup the drums took up half of my Firepod. It's amazing what people can do now at home.
 
I thought the drums might have been from a program, but they didn't sound stale or repetitive at all. I have used Acid Pro and an Alesis drum machine. With Acid Pro you can order CDs of loops by style (maybe a little dated technology now--I don't get out much). I also have an Audix drum mic kit and I've tried a million different placements and compression settings with varying levels of success.

My new drummer has Roland V-Drums, and I'm really starting to like them. I love how we can practice at conversation volume. My wife appreciates that too because we play in my basement. It's also pretty cool how he can change the kit to tabla or something different for certain songs. The best part is recording. Don't have to worry about anything, and you just need one stereo track to record them. With my old setup the drums took up half of my Firepod. It's amazing what people can do now at home.
Z-man, I do studio work (keyboards, vox) but also play guitar (and sitar), bass, "misc. instruments (xly, vibes, harp) as well as drums. Ask your drummer if they've ever checked out "R.E.T. Percussions"

www.retpercussion.us/

These drums have 'natural' mylar "heads" (natural heads...who'd would've thought?) and the cymbals are metal (brass alloy vs. rubber) and which have a 'dampening' coating that make them quiet and which also allow you to play RET drumsets at 'conversational levels' as well as being able to practice fairly vigorously at a little above "practice-pad" volume levels. The cymbals are very responsive to being "grabbed" as well as when hit at different spots on the cymbal.

And they are competitively priced vis-a-vis the Roland V-series and compatible with Roland, DDrums or Yamaha modules (so long as they have duel triggers to handle both the toms & cymbals). I was able to grab a RET Fushion Pro EX for under 4K. And no, I do not work for them...this is not spam, just an fyi to a company that builds a nice little mouse'trap'

Amps:
keyboard: Yorkville Traynor K-4. Leslie 122
guitar: Vox AC3O; Roland RG 80 112-SC (white); Princeton Twin Reverb

keys:
Vox Super Continental dual-manual combo organ (Made in Calif. - mint); Yamaha accoustic piano, SY77 synth, CP300 stage piano, Technics SX-PR702 Digital Ensemble (beast), Hammond xk3c ("clonewheel") organ

guitars
(elec.): American Deluxe Power Telecaster (nat.w/tortois pick grd), Rickenbacker J325 (3/4 b&w Lennon model), Vox Phantom VI (white)

(acoustic): Guild GAD50, Ovation Celb., Taylor 614 CE (auto. by Michlle.Branch) and a cheapo-Fender

Bass: Fender Percussion

Drums: RET Percussion Fusion Pro (as noted above; Roland TD-8 module)
 
Taylor made for pickin' & grinnin'

Dedans,

How do you like your 614CE?
Puma, I quite like it. The tone is not as big ('woody-boomy') like a Martin D-28 (swoon); it's lighter and brighter but not 'tinny-bright' like Ovations.

For the money, a solid, versitile guitar
(and for my money a "great buy" given that Michelle Branch gave it to my wife-lol).
 

Z-Man

Professional
Dedans:
I always wondered where your depth of obscure musical puns and innuendos came from--now it's making more sense!

Those RET drums look really cool. I especially like how you can catch the cymbals, and it must look and feel a lot more like a real kit. I'll pass that link on to our drummer. He's a bit of a gear head. Speaking of gear, how does that shortscale Ric play? I've always wanted one, but being from Georgia, if I ever get a Ric, it might have to be a Peter Buck-style 360 JetGlo.
 

Z-Man

Professional
I'm a weekend warrior. My main rig is this, two acoustics, and some Yorkville NX55P powered speakers. I love those things. 550 watts into a 12in speaker. The two pedals on the right are for vocals.

 

bluegrasser

Hall of Fame
Puma, I quite like it. The tone is not as big ('woody-boomy') like a Martin D-28 (swoon); it's lighter and brighter but not 'tinny-bright' like Ovations.

For the money, a solid, versitile guitar
(and for my money a "great buy" given that Michelle Branch gave it to my wife-lol).
I've owned about ten Martins in the past ( 18's/ D28/ vs etc ) but like DP said they're lighter and brighter, not so bottom end heavy, really great for recording & when you get older and the fingers don't work so good - playability man, playability becomes priority.
 

Puma

Rookie
I've owned about ten Martins in the past ( 18's/ D28/ vs etc ) but like DP said they're lighter and brighter, not so bottom end heavy, really great for recording & when you get older and the fingers don't work so good - playability man, playability becomes priority.
Yep thats what I've heard..............When I grow up................
 
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