The New Wilson Baiardo Stringing Machine

[vsbabolat]

Check Out the New Wilson Baiardo Stringing Machine!!

http://www.baiardo.info/

I think Wilson has a machine that can compete with the Babolat and Tecnifibre machines.

 

[Pro Staff Pete]

Holy... that looks awesome

 

[drakulie]

Nice. Wonder how much power that thing needs to function.

 

[Luminous]

Is it just me or does that link not work? It come back with Failed to Open Page?

 

[Luminous]

Its working now! Looks an amazing machine, Wonder if it'll be available to buy?

 

[beernutz]

Is it just me or does that link not work? It come back with Failed to Open Page?

The link works for me. Their 3 minute video makes me WANT ONE.

Anyone know what it is going to retail for?

 

[chrisplchs]

retail is 6k

 

[Luminous]

Will it be available in Europe?

 

[william7gr]

retail is 6k

Why must they ruin all my dreams

 

[iplaybetter]

sites been up a while as has the news of it, its impressive but i see a great number of moving parts that said it has been getting a great reputation, don't think i will be getting anything other than a prince in the near future but its up there especially when its been updated to adress problems found in its use

 

[todot62]

I strung on a prototype for about two hours in Oct. I think the only thing they were going to change at that point were the clamps, a good decision. It takes a bit of getting used to because, used correctly it is higher with a slight angle when stringing the mains and much higher and a pretty good angle when weaving the crosses.

The objective is to be more ergonomic and thus the stringer will be less fatigued. Did it pull it off? It was hard to tell with just two hours, but I must say, it was pretty sweet, and you really are standing more upright and not hunched over like on my Star 3. I have spoken with stringers that used it at the Open and they did feel it was a "better" stringer. When you get in the 6k range it puts it up there with the Sensor and the Technifibre. They will all do the same thing but the long term ergonomic features of the Wilson put it over the top for me.

Tod

 

[Il Mostro]

^^^^

Not to mention that it has 6 user-memory settings. A natural for high volume shops with multiple stringers.

 

[beernutz]

sites been up a while as has the news of it, its impressive but i see a great number of moving parts that said it has been getting a great reputation, don't think i will be getting anything other than a prince in the near future but its up there especially when its been updated to adress problems found in its use

I'm curious, what does this mean in your signature?
"string if very subjective so we must each form our own conclusion"

 

[uk_skippy]

Will it be available in Europe?

Yes it is. I spoke to Framework Wilson who deal with Wilson strings & accessories and they said that they were getting one of the AUS open machine to showcase through England. They're going to let me know when they've got it as I only live 10 minutes up the road from them so I can go and demo it. They couldn't give me a price as it was dependent on what 'package' you took. Not too sure what than means, but I'll wait and see.

Regards

Paul

 

[TennezSport]

Sweet.............

I strung on a prototype for about two hours in Oct. I think the only thing they were going to change at that point were the clamps, a good decision. It takes a bit of getting used to because, used correctly it is higher with a slight angle when stringing the mains and much higher and a pretty good angle when weaving the crosses.

The objective is to be more ergonomic and thus the stringer will be less fatigued. Did it pull it off? It was hard to tell with just two hours, but I must say, it was pretty sweet, and you really are standing more upright and not hunched over like on my Star 3. I have spoken with stringers that used it at the Open and they did feel it was a "better" stringer. When you get in the 6k range it puts it up there with the Sensor and the Technifibre. They will all do the same thing but the long term ergonomic features of the Wilson put it over the top for me.

Tod

Yeah, we had a chance to play with it also at the Striners Symposium last Oct. Sweet machine and it really is easy on the body once you get used to it; easy to get spoiled. Our only issue with it is that it's going to be priced in the $6000.00 range and for that we could get 2 Star 5's

Cheers, TennezSport

 

[t0nym4c]

Is this going to be the GREATEST STRINGING MACHINE IN THE WORLD!?

 

[Luminous]

Yes it is. I spoke to Framework Wilson who deal with Wilson strings & accessories and they said that they were getting one of the AUS open machine to showcase through England. They're going to let me know when they've got it as I only live 10 minutes up the road from them so I can go and demo it. They couldn't give me a price as it was dependent on what 'package' you took. Not too sure what than means, but I'll wait and see.

Regards

Paul

Ok thanks! Have wait till it comes out and see!

 

[Pro Staff Pete]

When I visited the ATP tournament in Rotterdam last Thursday, they were stringing on this machine. They had a total of 6 of them and they showed me the awesome movement of the machine (like when it rotates vertically on the crosses). However I don't know too much about the technical aspects of such an advanced machine so I didn't have many questions for the Wilson guys

 

[iplaybetter]

I'm curious, what does this mean in your signature?
"string if very subjective so we must each form our own conclusion"

if should be is, its a type that i decided would be more entertaining to leave be

 

[max]

What the heck does Biarido mean?

 

[lawlitssoo1n]

makes it sound like its a movie hahah

 

[SCSI]

It seems to me like too much bells and whistles for what you get. It might make sense for a tournament shop where someone is on the machine pretty much all the time, but it is tough to beat a super simple yet super smooth and reliable machine like a Star 5.

The other thing that I am a little concerned about the new Wilson machine is that there is a bit of gap between the clamps and the levers when they are in the closed position.

 

[Tim W]

It seems to me like too much bells and whistles for what you get. It might make sense for a tournament shop where someone is on the machine pretty much all the time, but it is tough to beat a super simple yet super smooth and reliable machine like a Star 5.

The other thing that I am a little concerned about the new Wilson machine is that there is a bit of gap between the clamps and the levers when they are in the closed position.

How is this a problem? They might get in the way? My Babolat machine also has a gap, but I have never had any trouble with it.

 

[SCSI]

I have a Babolat Star 5 which has the same clamp as Sensor and they are streamlined and the gap is much smaller than the Wilson machine. I have two concerns. One, it might get in the way of things like your hand. The other thing is that string loop may catch the lever and release the clamp when you are working fast.

Anyway, it is hard to say without having used the machine. However, to my knowledge, Wilson has not been in stringing machine business and don't have the experience and know-how that Babolat has. So, I would wait a while until they sort out the bugs. Having used a Sensor and Star 5 extensively and French made Gitzo tripods, I can't imagine a stringing machine that has not been desigined and built in France can be as good as top Babolat/Technifibre machines. I am of course assumping that the Wilson machine was not designed in France.

 

[abllee2198]

Baiardo Designers

My best guess is the machine was a collaborative effort between Ron Rocchi (Wilson) and Roman Prokes (****), plus an ergonomics engineer. So it's mostly an American Design fabricated in Taiwan.

One thing about the Baiardo is the table brake is solid and light years better than the Sensor or Star 5. You could pull 100 pounds and the locked table will not budge.

The machine electronics can be broken out of the chassis and is about the size of a small cigar box. Easy maintenance! Inside is amazing!

The machine power supply is multi-voltage unit and comes as a separate unit like power units for laptops, only a bit larger.

From what I can understand they are still fine tuning the clamps. At this point in time, they've changed over to the switch lock bases. These bases auto unlock when the string clamp is released. I found the clamps (at US Open) to hold very well, but setting the string crush was hard to do. Seems that all roller cam clamps damp out the feel, so setting the crush is problematic (my opinion).

As far as Babolat's current designs go, I love the forged arms best. They really hold the frame better than any other unit in the industry. The new Star 5 tension head is problematic and nicks delicate poly strings resulting in premature breakage. The new electronics (Sensor an Star 5) are very stable but the tensioning still overshoots reference by 5-8 pounds (peak). The Baiardo is solid on this aspect and stops at reference with zero overshoot.

Albert

 

[ericsson]

What the heck does Biarido mean?

It's Baiardo! It is named for a mythical horse whose saddle adjust to the size and build of its rider

Just heard that it will go for around 5.850 € here in Europe (some countries even more), and already available in limited shops.

 

[bigmatt]

My understanding is that Wilson worked with NASA ergonomics experts in designing the machine and, yes, Baiardo was a mythical horse who adjusted to its riders. The pictures I saw seemed to indicate Far East production.
I don't have Albert's engineering expertise but I must agree about the clamps: they were hard to adjust and have hopefully been improved on the production model.

 

[mlewis721]

Having used a Sensor and Star 5 extensively and French made Gitzo tripods, I can't imagine a stringing machine that has not been desigined and built in France can be as good as top Babolat/Technifibre machines. I am of course assuming that the Wilson machine was not designed in France.

The machine appears to have been designed in the US and is being built in Taiwan. If Wilson had contracted with Toyo-Zouki of Japan to build them instead, I would have zero reservations about the machine. I think if you had any experience with Japan made, you would not be so enamored of French made.

 

[SCSI]

I have no doubt that Japanese made or American made machines are of good quality. However, to me, French designed stringing machine have such a beautiful yet functional designs that Germans, Japanese, and Americans can't match. You'd have to have a bit crazy about this stuff (stringing) and it seems Babolat designers are, which I appreciate.

I personally really like Babolat Sensor. It is a really beautiful yet increadibly functional machine...

 

[ericsson]

I have no doubt that Japanese made or American made machines are of good quality. However, to me, French designed stringing machine have such a beautiful yet functional designs that Germans, Japanese, and Americans can't match. You'd have to have a bit crazy about this stuff (stringing) and it seems Babolat designers are, which I appreciate.

I personally really like Babolat Sensor. It is a really beautiful yet increadibly functional machine...

True but for that price it should be.