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#55
placed my order on Sunday with Paul for my new TC97s and really looking forward to them. Am making the big blind switch from my beloved collection of TC95s ive used since 2013 so fingers crossed...
4 x TC97
27in / 330g /12hl bal / L3 B / Tan Leather / Black Grommits
 
#56
placed my order on Sunday with Paul for my new TC97s and really looking forward to them. Am making the big blind switch from my beloved collection of TC95s ive used since 2013 so fingers crossed...
4 x TC97
27in / 330g /12hl bal / L3 B / Tan Leather / Black Grommits
And you're going all in on the TC97s buying 4!
 
#57
And you're going all in on the TC97s buying 4!
OP. There isn't a thread yet with the strung swingweights of various angell frames right? I'm particulary interested in the strung SW of the 27inch:

-TC 95 63 RA most headlight 310 Gr. Static unstrung
-TC 95 63 RA most headlight 320 Gr. Static unstrung (stules: sw of 339 strung)
-TC 97 most headlight 310 Gr. Static unstrung
-TC 97 most headlight 320 Gr. Static unstrung (mxblink: sw of 300 unstrung)

I guess this is the place to share these numbers?!:)
 
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#58
TC97 raw frame w/ Leather. 330g 12pts HL model. SW 296 and 294. Weights came in exactly as advertised. I was also targeting a strung SW in the 325-327 neighborhood. YMMV.
 

topspn

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#59
TC97 raw frame w/ Leather. 330g 12pts HL model. SW 296 and 294. Weights came in exactly as advertised. I was also targeting a strung SW in the 325-327 neighborhood. YMMV.
I agree with those and they make sense. I asked my stringer to measure the SW on my TC97s. I think he may have been high on shop glue or something. He came up with 377 SW
 
#60
I agree with those and they make sense. I asked my stringer to measure the SW on my TC97s. I think he may have been high on shop glue or something. He came up with 377 SW
Paul quoted me the raw frame SW's so I would believe him...especially since by my gorilla math, my strung, as played with OG and rubber band, racquets come in at something like 315 SW.

Yeah...the 377 sounds a smidge high!
 
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Chace

Professional
#62
placed my order on Sunday with Paul for my new TC97s and really looking forward to them. Am making the big blind switch from my beloved collection of TC95s ive used since 2013 so fingers crossed...
4 x TC97
27in / 330g /12hl bal / L3 B / Tan Leather / Black Grommits
Do you plan on selling the tc95s? If so, what are the specs? Thanks
 
#66
yep all in is right just sold all 4 of my TC95s this week(same specs bar 70ra) so no going back..and Pauls matching SW on them which is nice!
I think these types of things (matching SW) certainly help justify the upfront cost of custom.
I have been uber pleased with the service from Paul not to mention the product as well.
 
#68
I think these types of things (matching SW) certainly help justify the upfront cost of custom.
I have been uber pleased with the service from Paul not to mention the product as well.
I totally agree, Paul is great at comms and service is amazing i find..When i first received my TC95s nearly 4 years ago i used to be one of those people that had a cupboard full of different rackets and was always buying or trying new ones always trying to find 'the one'(that wasnt my goto stick Wilson PS90) But since playing with Angell ive got rid of probably around 30-35 rackets and my beloved at the time PS90s so nearer 40 sticks and only have Angells in the house now, have truely been sold on this brand.. So for me to make a blind switch from a solid TC95 to the TC97 is an easy one as i know ill like it, am hoping it will have slightly bigger sweetspot for vollies and give me more on 1st serves?!
 
#70
Enjoying playing with Head Sonic Pro in my Angells. Wondering about trying a syn gut - appreciate any thoughts if you've tried syn gut in yours. Or other non poly strings you've tried.
 
#72
I put Klippermate Pearl Zone in my TC-100 and it played fantastic. I also threw in a cheap nylon...still pretty good, but I wouldn't do it again. My guess, any multi or synthetic gut will play fine. I really haven't found a string combo that I like in another frame, that didn't play well in my Angell. I have a set of Kirschbaum Touch (multi), I may throw in next, but I am finishing off the Helix before I do.
 
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#73
Enjoying playing with Head Sonic Pro in my Angells. Wondering about trying a syn gut - appreciate any thoughts if you've tried syn gut in yours. Or other non poly strings you've tried.
Ashaway Crossfire is worth a go if you have never tried it before, its a mains of Kevlar and crosses of syn gut so you hybrid of stiff/soft-pretty durable but i find it great for spin and still comfortable(just dont go too high on tension in the mains or will not feel nice!-ie TC95 Mains@54/Crosses@58-60, as a starting point to see if u like it?) - If that feels too stiff maybe in the Mains instead of the Kevlar pop in Solinco TourBite
 
#74
I use multis and I've got Volkl Power Fiber II @ 52lbs in right now. It's the only string I've tried so far but it's playing great for me. Outstanding control.
 
#75
Have a full bed of X-1 Biphase (54 lbs) in my 97 that I put in a couple of weeks ago and plays great so far. Will try a gut/poly next as I've enjoyed that combo in past racquets and anxious to try that out in the Angell.
 
#76
Klip Legend uncoated with Kirschbaum Proline II in one and TourBite Soft in the other.
Gut hybrid is a bit too powerful for me if I'm not careful. On serve particularly.
Love the TBS though. Crisp with just the right amount of punch. Loads of spin but the launch angle is a bit lower so the ball really bouncrs through the court.
Have a third TC97 coming. Going to try FireWire and some gut hybrid in that one.
 
#79
I've been using my TC95 for a couple of weeks now, starting to get a good feel for it and I'm really happy with it. As this one was bought from the classifieds on here as a way to see if the Angell was for me I'm now thinking about the spec I want when I buy another, maybe upping the weight to 320g for a bit more power but keeping it at 63ra.

I have thought about the 97 but from some of the reviews there seems to be a bit less precision and feel, it's a beautiful looking racquet though.

I've seen a few posts about tension, I had mine at 55lb's as I've always gone with higher tensions, how much difference is there at the high 40's?
 
#80
It really depends on what you are stringing. Poly, copoly, 48 seems to feel softer and have more of a pocketing feel, also a little extra power. When I go to a smaller headsize (100 to a 95) I drop the tension about 5 pounds. The tighter string pattern makes the string bed feel...tighter, and boardy (IMO) if you use the same tension on a 95 as you do on a 100. I think that was one of the initial reasons I liked my 100 better than my 95. I had always just strung frames at 55 and figured that's what works for me. At least with polys, they lose tension, so after a couple hitting sessions, they drop tension. But my initial stringing on my 95 was Babolat Xcel 16, at 55, and I hated it. I switched it out with a 17 gauge Black Shark (poly) and dropped the tension to 48. It was like a whole new frame!!! It was just stringing inexperience on my part. But, I almost sold a really great frame, because I was short sighted and didn't want to cut out an "expensive" string setup :) Lesson learned. It is a feel, I think you just have to experience (easier if you have a stringer, I will admit) but no matter what string you have in your 95, I would definitely try a lower tension, and see how you like it (poly, 48, anything else other than Nat gut, 50). If you are using anything other than 17 gauge, switch it up to 17, it will open up the string bed, giving you a little more power, feel, and spin. What string are you currently using in your TC-95, that is at 55 lbs? Also, what gauge string?
 
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#82
-TC 95 63 RA most headlight 320 Gr. Static unstrung (stules: sw of 339 strung)
-TC 97 most headlight 320 Gr. Static unstrung (mxblink: sw of 300 unstrung, teekaywhy: 325-327 strung)

Refering to these numbers it seems that the 63RA has indeed a higher strung swing weight (in line with some others said before including Paul). I would opt for the tc97 I guess, I think it will play like a more forgiving dunlop MW200G. Can someone compare the comfort level of the tc97 versus the tc95 63RA please?
 
#83
It really depends on what you are stringing. Poly, copoly, 48 seems to feel softer and have more of a pocketing feel, also a little extra power. When I go to a smaller headsize (100 to a 95) I drop the tension about 5 pounds. The tighter string pattern makes the string bed feel...tighter, and boardy (IMO) if you use the same tension on a 95 as you do on a 100. I think that was one of the initial reasons I liked my 100 better than my 95. I had always just strung frames at 55 and figured that's what works for me. At least with polys, they lose tension, so after a couple hitting sessions, they drop tension. But my initial stringing on my 95 was Babolat Xcel 16, at 55, and I hated it. I switched it out with a 17 gauge Black Shark (poly) and dropped the tension to 48. It was like a whole new frame!!! It was just stringing inexperience on my part. But, I almost sold a really great frame, because I was short sighted and didn't want to cut out an "expensive" string setup :) Lesson learned. It is a feel, I think you just have to experience (easier if you have a stringer, I will admit) but no matter what string you have in your 95, I would definitely try a lower tension, and see how you like it (poly, 48, anything else other than Nat gut, 50). If you are using anything other than 17 gauge, switch it up to 17, it will open up the string bed, giving you a little more power, feel, and spin. What string are you currently using in your TC-95, that is at 55 lbs? Also, what gauge string?
I've got Dunlop black widow in there at 17 gauge, I also have some volkl cyclone to try at the same thickness. The strings have probably settled at 50 or under at the moment, I would imagine high 40's will settle to mid or low after a few uses.

Coming back to tennis after I long break I am starting again a bit, always used synthetic gut when I was a kid as that's pretty much all they had. I do fancy getting hold of a stringer, I had access to one when I was younger so just bought a reel and did my own. If I can convince the missus that I "need" one and it won't take up too much space I'll get one, I like to try different strings so would enable me to indulge myself a bit. It's also a lot cheaper than constantly buying racquets.
 
#85
I think you will find it a lot more user friendly at the lower tension. Good luck with the missus!! It is Christmas time...maybe something magical will happen!
 
#86
I'm surprised to see so few TC100s. Maybe this is why Paul developed the TC97, to give Angell users an even better option for a more powerful and forgiving racquet than the TC95.

So far the count is:
TC95 - 10
TC97 - 9
TC100 - 2
 
#88
I think you will find it a lot more user friendly at the lower tension. Good luck with the missus!! It is Christmas time...maybe something magical will happen!
She wouldn't know a stringing machine if she tripped over one, given she's the most clumsy person on the world that's fairly likely. I'll keep an eye on the auction site and if a local bargain pops up I might make a whim purchase. There are a few strings on my radar I would like to try.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
#90
Show off ;)

Thankfully I've shaken off the racquet-holism I used to suffer from that forced me to buy more racquets than I really needed. Having said that, the TC97 is very enticing.
Hehe..yeah I felt the same way with 97 enticing but now that I have two of them and all strung and ready to go, I'm going to my 95. I hit with the TC97 a couple of times and the racquet is nice. When it came to matches, I immediately picked my 95 and didn't consider the 97. I'm still playing better with my 95 and the precision in my shot making is not allowing me to put down the TC95.
 
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#91
Hehe..yeah I felt the same way with 97 enticing but now that I have two of them and all strung and ready to go, I'm going to my 95. I hit with the TC97 a couple of times and the racquet is nice. When it came to matches, I immediately picked my 95 and didn't consider the 97. I'm still playing better with my 95 and the precision in my shot making is not allowing me to put down the TC95.
That's exactly why I'm hesitant to move on the TC97. My precision with the TC95 is just too good. I'm not having any trouble with too small a head, lack of power, or forgiveness that I feel I could gain anything of great worth from the TC97. The main thing I like is a stiffness between the 63 and 70.
 
#92
Hehe..yeah I felt the same way with 97 enticing but now that I have two of them and all strung and ready to go, I'm going to my 95. I hit with the TC97 a couple of times and the racquet is nice. When it came to matches, I immediately picked my 95 and didn't consider the 97. I'm still playing better with my 95 and the precision in my shot making is not allowing me to put down the TC95
That settles it for me. Precision is very important for me and saving money as well. I think that the tc95 will suit me better especially for someone who likes to volley a lot.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
#93
That's exactly why I'm hesitant to move on the TC97. My precision with the TC95 is just too good. I'm not having any trouble with too small a head, lack of power, or forgiveness that I feel I could gain anything of great worth from the TC97. The main thing I like is a stiffness between the 63 and 70.
Well, on the stiffness rating, you are really saying you want something between 58-64RA so you would be getting around 60RA for TC97. There is no question the feel is amped to the stiffer 95 and it feels very plush. I have to experiment with the TC97 on string setups and see what i get out of it. But i have to keep my 95s no matter what. In match play, they are proving very effective for my play and really allow me confidence in dictating.
 
#94
Well, on the stiffness rating, you are really saying you want something between 58-64RA so you would be getting around 60RA for TC97. There is no question the feel is amped to the stiffer 95 and it feels very plush. I have to experiment with the TC97 on string setups and see what i get out of it. But i have to keep my 95s no matter what. In match play, they are proving very effective for my play and really allow me confidence in dictating.
We think alike... and that's where I see things too. The 97 sounds like a more patient stick and since I have big strokes all around I really value aiming for lines. I tend to win or lose depending on whether the ball lands in or 3 inches outside a line... even when Im playing patiently. Im a ballstriker so TC95 makes the most sense for me. Interesting how the knowledge base on the TC97 develops... most of the people I play are considering it... me the 95 still makes the most sense and its a good time of year to switch sticks.
 
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