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beltsman

Legend
String Pattern: 16 x 19
Stiffness: 66 RA
Length: 27
Bumper Grommets: Black
Weight / Balance: 320g(11.4oz) / 310mm(10ptsHL)
Grip Size: L3 - 4 3/8
Handle Shape: B
Grip Type: Tan Leather

I have sent an email to the id listed on site to know the swing weight. Hope they reply.
Nice, enjoy! Send them a message on Facebook too, they respond faster there. I think it's Paul talking directly too.
 

stocchero

New User
Cart is set with

Custom TC97 - 16 x 19
String Pattern : 16 x 19
Stiffness : 66 RA
Length : 27
Bumper Grommets : Black
Weight / Balance : 320g(11.4oz) / 310mm(10ptsHL)
Grip Size : L3 - 4 3/8
Handle Shape : B ( Standard)
Grip Type : Tan Leather

Need a divine sign to hit order.

I have asked Paul what the SW of this congif will be. I want somewhere between 310 to 315.
I don't think you can get a TC97 with a strung SW in the 310-315 ballpark...

My 3 tc97 (2 custom, 1 pro) are 325-330 (1.25 copoly)

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galapagos

Semi-Pro
can anyone tell me how big is the launch angle of their 16x19 tc95 compared to lets say yonex duel g, wilson pro staff 97, yonex dr98? Many ppl say that it has super big launch angle. Are we talking "babolat apd/pure drive" like style or even higher?
 

tribesmen

Professional
IMHO racquets don't have a launch angle themselves, but it depends on how you hitting the ball. You can hit flat all day with TC95 16x19 if you want although it has very open string pattern and you can hit nasty spins above the net if you are capable to rotate the ball. The layup and overall quality is more important how the racquet reacts in contact with the ball than string pattern.
 
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can anyone tell me how big is the launch angle of their 16x19 tc95 compared to lets say yonex duel g, wilson pro staff 97, yonex dr98? Many ppl say that it has super big launch angle. Are we talking "babolat apd/pure drive" like style or even higher?
Yeah the Tc95 is really nothing like a pure drive... it can hit flat shots all day long if you want but the spin potential is similar to the babolats if you hit it right. Here's the caveat, its not a tweener and the swingweight is healthy it means you have to be able to feel comfortable with that swingweight to unlock that kind of spin... its not like a pure drive where you can just flick it. It requires the whole kinetic chain. The people who have problems with launch angle are actually having a problem with deploying their kinetic chain in the right sequence.

It has power to burn if you are set up... but if the kinetic chain isnt deployed correctly its just going to spray the ball long. That's not launch angle... that the way spin has to be unlocked with that frame.
 
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Shangri La

Hall of Fame
Are the overgrips not fitting the grip flaring part not very well and that's what's bothering lol? The Volkl grips weren't very stretchy and I didn't pull them too tight as that will make them last not as long. When griping leathers, I did pull them really tight and made sure they fit snug on the grip.
 

NYJet24

New User
Paul recommended me the 320/10 pt HL TC 97 coming from my Prestige Pro. I wonder why he chose the 320/10, doesn't that mean the head is light? What not the 320/7 or 330/9?
 
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Yeah the Tc95 is really nothing like a pure drive... it can hit flat shots all day long if you want but the spin potential is similar to the babolats if you hit it right. Here's the caveat, its not a tweener and the swingweight is healthy it means you have to be able to feel comfortable with that swingweight to unlock that kind of spin... its not like a pure drive where you can just flick it. It requires the whole kinetic chain. The people who have problems with launch angle are actually having a problem with deploying their kinetic chain in the right sequence.

It has power to burn if you are set up... but if the kinetic chain isnt deployed correctly its just going to spray the ball long. That's not launch angle... that the way spin has to be unlocked with that frame.
What about the TC97? Is it good for flat shots as well or do you need to put a lot of spin to keep the ball in?
 

sma1001

Hall of Fame
Paul recommended me the 320/10 pt HL TC 97 coming from my Prestige Pro. I wonder why he chose the 320/10, doesn't that mean the head is light? What not the 320/7 or 330/9?
The weight in the head is the same. The balance point moves depending on where he puts the lead in the handle.
 

Tennisist

Semi-Pro
Paul recommended me the 320/10 pt HL TC 97 coming from my Prestige Pro. I wonder why he chose the 320/10, doesn't that mean the head is light? What not the 320/7 or 330/9?
I believe that's the most head-light option available. The most head-light is needed because Prestige Pro is quite whippy and fast through the air, but TC 97 is not. It has weight in the head.
 

NYJet24

New User
I believe that's the most head-light option available. The most head-light is needed because Prestige Pro is quite whippy and fast through the air, but TC 97 is not. It has weight in the head.
But the swingweight is still about 330 he said. I thought that head light meant lighter swingweight? The Prestige Pro I have is 330g and 6 points HL.
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
But the swingweight is still about 330 he said. I thought that head light meant lighter swingweight? The Prestige Pro I have is 330g and 6 points HL.
The key has already been said - only difference between various setups is weight(s) and its position in the handle. In that position, the effect on SW is not that significant.
 

alexdoro

New User
I have a tc97 16x19 315g/315mm (9pts HL unstrung) and replaced the synthetic grip with a leather grip 5 grams heavier. What is the aprox. balance strung and unstrung now?
 

topspn

Legend
But the swingweight is still about 330 he said. I thought that head light meant lighter swingweight? The Prestige Pro I have is 330g and 6 points HL.
No! You can have the same SW and make a racquet more or less HL. The balance point of the racquet is not SW.
 
What about the TC97? Is it good for flat shots as well or do you need to put a lot of spin to keep the ball in?
the tc97 18x20 is the stick i would recommend to a flatter hitter but like all angell frames it has very good spin and serves well

was playing with my tc95s today... works perfectly with my edbergian second serve and backhand... was hitting great slice backhands in the wind today. Normally i hit more topspin drives but very pleased with how i sliced today... more aggressive than defensive slice. Also i hit 3 aces with second serves in 1st set. Actually aces came during first 4 games with new balls. Just gotta love how tc95 can serve me out of trouble.
 
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stocchero

New User
I have a tc97 16x19 315g/315mm (9pts HL unstrung) and replaced the synthetic grip with a leather grip 5 grams heavier. What is the aprox. balance strung and unstrung now?
5 grams more in a cushion grip is the same as adding an overgrip.

I would say you should have now 312mm or 313mm balance unstrung.

A copoly string job brings the balance about 10 mm to the head. So, the strung balance should be about 323mm

I guess...

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krikamons

New User
I wonder how difficult it is to adjust the weight in the handle? Bought my TC97 6points HL but curious to see if a more whippy balance would suit better.
 

skuludo

Professional
I wonder how difficult it is to adjust the weight in the handle? Bought my TC97 6points HL but curious to see if a more whippy balance would suit better.
It's as difficult as taking staples off and putting them back on again.
You can access the handle by taking off the staples in the butt cap and pallet, and then put them back on when you are done.
 

Georgo

New User
After 8-10 hours of playtime with the TC97 and the TC95 (both 16x19) came to the conclusion to pull the trigger on two additional TC95 :)

I was afraid of the smaller sweet spot of the TC95, so I went for the TC97 at first. And it was great! Smooth frame, finally could string again at 26Kg or even higher without any arm pain but tons of control (on the contrary to Babolat Pure Aeros, that I tried to get used to before them).

But after reading so many good reviews about the TC95 I had to give it a try, and it played even better than the TC97.
No issues with the sweet spot, somehow it has "more edge" that the TC97. Love it :)
 

CopolyX

Hall of Fame
After 8-10 hours of playtime with the TC97 and the TC95 (both 16x19) came to the conclusion to pull the trigger on two additional TC95 :)

I was afraid of the smaller sweet spot of the TC95, so I went for the TC97 at first. And it was great! Smooth frame, finally could string again at 26Kg or even higher without any arm pain but tons of control (on the contrary to Babolat Pure Aeros, that I tried to get used to before them).

But after reading so many good reviews about the TC95 I had to give it a try, and it played even better than the TC97.
No issues with the sweet spot, somehow it has "more edge" that the TC97. Love it :)
you should always have an angell by your side!
 

alexdoro

New User
After 8-10 hours of playtime with the TC97 and the TC95 (both 16x19) came to the conclusion to pull the trigger on two additional TC95 :)

I was afraid of the smaller sweet spot of the TC95, so I went for the TC97 at first. And it was great! Smooth frame, finally could string again at 26Kg or even higher without any arm pain but tons of control (on the contrary to Babolat Pure Aeros, that I tried to get used to before them).

But after reading so many good reviews about the TC95 I had to give it a try, and it played even better than the TC97.
No issues with the sweet spot, somehow it has "more edge" that the TC97. Love it :)
What specs do you use on tc97 and tc95?
 

galapagos

Semi-Pro
After 8-10 hours of playtime with the TC97 and the TC95 (both 16x19) came to the conclusion to pull the trigger on two additional TC95 :)

I was afraid of the smaller sweet spot of the TC95, so I went for the TC97 at first. And it was great! Smooth frame, finally could string again at 26Kg or even higher without any arm pain but tons of control (on the contrary to Babolat Pure Aeros, that I tried to get used to before them).

But after reading so many good reviews about the TC95 I had to give it a try, and it played even better than the TC97.
No issues with the sweet spot, somehow it has "more edge" that the TC97. Love it :)
specs please and favourite racquets history :)
 

NYJet24

New User
Is there anyone who's tried both the 97 and 95 and liked the 97 better? Seems like whenever people try both they like the 95 better,
 

Subaruvich

Semi-Pro
Is there anyone who's tried both the 97 and 95 and liked the 97 better? Seems like whenever people try both they like the 95 better,
Easy choice for me:
TC95 16x19 if I want to play more dynamic and more aggressive tennis or TC97 18x20 if I need a scalpel precision.
Depends on the mood and opponent.
 

Georgo

New User
specs please and favourite racquets history :)
300g unstrung (TC95 SW 297), added the leather grip myself with 6g of lead at 3 and 9. Both ended up at 340g strung.
Tried the TC95 at 23Kg, but everything was flying half a meter long, I need at least 25Kg for control on both.

Back in the days I played the Pro Tour 630, hence that I liked the TC97 so much (I was ca. 6.5-7.0 then).
I also played the 2004 original APD after the PT630, loved them.
But in 10 years all of them broke, so I I tried the new Pure Aeros last year in a hope to replace the APD with them but never settled. Tons of power on the PA and a lot of control at 26Kg or higher, but killing the arm after only 20 minutes of play! (never had arm issues)
The Pure Aeros get comfortable at around 22Kg for me but with an unpredictable lunch angle and length at low tensions balls just fly everywhere. Those frames are hard, not getting around that.

On the contrary both the TC95 and TC97 are soft frames, happy to have found them and a big thanks to you guys in this forum for all the reviews, without you I would still be looking for frames..
And a big thanks to Paul for designing and producing those unique frames for us mortals :)
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Could someone with a tc100 please measure the total racket length in cm for me? It seems like I have been playing an extended version the whole time, bought it second hand.

Planning on doing a huge review of all the models that I own. TC95 16x19 63ra, TC95 18x20 63 ra, TC97 16x19, TC97 18x20, TC100 63ra, TC100 67 Ra special edition.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
Could someone with a tc100 please measure the total racket length in cm for me? It seems like I have been playing an extended version the whole time, bought it second hand.

Planning on doing a huge review of all the models that I own. TC95 16x19 63ra, TC95 18x20 63 ra, TC97 16x19, TC97 18x20, TC100 63ra, TC100 67 Ra special edition.
I measured my 2 TC100s at 68,4 cm.
 
Is there a way to track your order with Angell?

Currently I play with Bab PCT strung with RIP control 17 at 54M and 52C. I find RIP Control best suited for me as it's a bit stiff yet comfortable so my TE doesn't flare up. Is the RIP Control suited well for the TC97?
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
Is there a way to track your order with Angell?

Currently I play with Bab PCT strung with RIP control 17 at 54M and 52C. I find RIP Control best suited for me as it's a bit stiff yet comfortable so my TE doesn't flare up. Is the RIP Control suited well for the TC97?
You'll receive an email from DHL with your tracking number.
 
After 8-10 hours of playtime with the TC97 and the TC95 (both 16x19) came to the conclusion to pull the trigger on two additional TC95 :)

I was afraid of the smaller sweet spot of the TC95, so I went for the TC97 at first. And it was great! Smooth frame, finally could string again at 26Kg or even higher without any arm pain but tons of control (on the contrary to Babolat Pure Aeros, that I tried to get used to before them).

But after reading so many good reviews about the TC95 I had to give it a try, and it played even better than the TC97.
No issues with the sweet spot, somehow it has "more edge" that the TC97. Love it :)
more "edge" is a good way to describe the tc95 16x19... its a great frame for dictating the point... the kind of frame that leaves me with a smile on my face after every good outing. Since switching to it ive rarely dropped a set if im playing decently and my opponents have to serve lights out to have a chance... its that dramatic and it serves and returns that well for me. The flex of the ra63 is so crucial to me on 1st serves and returns. Also after a year I have really gelled with it on volleys... these days you gotta expect to hit at least 2 volleys at the net once you are there... the old s & v days of one volley putaways against quality oponents is done but im an all courter and it lets me dictate the shape of a point and if my opponent thinks they can just block back returns the tc95 gets it done at the net or backcourt.

Its that more explosive, speed up from spin at the bounce that really differentiates the tc95... such bite... and yet big flat kill shots too. Defense not lacking either, justt the tc97 is a little less hefty sw and a more traditional feel similar to prestige line. tc95 is more original... lihe the modern mp son of the max 200g and ps85... something that I'm sure Paul has been working on as a designer of frames for a very very long time. so impressed... and i do get more spin on seconds with the A grip shape

Could someone with a tc100 please measure the total racket length in cm for me? It seems like I have been playing an extended version the whole time, bought it second hand.


Planning on doing a huge review of all the models that I own. TC95 16x19 63ra, TC95 18x20 63 ra, TC97 16x19, TC97 18x20, TC100 63ra, TC100 67 Ra special edition.
if it isnt 27 inches its extended, ofc ;)

i enjoy reading reviews... it really helped me find the tc95 and we all have such different needs and observations... i should write a formal review of the tc95 for paul
 
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stocchero

New User
I wonder how difficult it is to adjust the weight in the handle? Bought my TC97 6points HL but curious to see if a more whippy balance would suit better.
The easiest way would be adding weight inside the buttcap or lead tape in the handle, and just if you like going through staples and pallets.

One easy way is sticking fishing weights in the foam inside the buttcap, or wrapping those weights in blue tac and then inside the buttcap.

One gram under the buttcap brings balance 1mm to the handle

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NYJet24

New User
People who have hit with both the 97 and 100, how do they compare? If the SW on the 97 is around 330 what is the SW on the 100?
 
Just officially joined the club! Bought a TC 100, 63 RA, 325g strung, 235mm balance without og/dampener.

Best specs for my game was adding a yonex dampener, supergrap overgrip, 1g+1g at 3+9, and about 4g of weight in the butt. I believe it came out to around 336g total. Strung with head velocity, 16g at 57 lbs.

I was on point with this stick! It didn't take long to feel confident and consistent with my game. Could get good RHS and good power, all with a plush feeling on contact. Was exceedingly impressed with my BH slice. I have only sliced that good playing table tennis! I suppose the technique carried over, and it just felt natural. My forehand ground stroke was going in consistently. I couldn't have been happier with the stick.

Giving in to my greed to constantly modify my stick, I tried adding an additional overgrip, an additional 1+1g lead at 3/9(total 2g+2g), and an additional 2 grams in the buttcap. This additional 9g made the stick feel much more sluggish. I will try and play with it a few more times, and if I can't adjust, I will probably remove an overgrip. I think that may be more managable.

Overall, coming from the Dr 98, I found the transition to be a blast! Very fun stick to play with, and would wholeheartedly recommend it to players looking for a powerful but comfortable baseline rally stick with amazing slice. Seemed to play well at the net(atleast for my game). I am probably 3.0-3.5, and was only doing short rallys at the net(Not necessarily intent volly training).

Big thanks to all the guys/gals on this thread. Couldn't have found this amazing stick without your guidance.
 

galapagos

Semi-Pro
do you guys know what would would be a possible SW change in 16x19 patterns if the 18x20 bumps up by 29 pts? I assume 16x19 patterns have lower impact on final SW. How much lower is the question ;p
 

krikamons

New User
The easiest way would be adding weight inside the buttcap or lead tape in the handle, and just if you like going through staples and pallets.

One easy way is sticking fishing weights in the foam inside the buttcap, or wrapping those weights in blue tac and then inside the buttcap.

One gram under the buttcap brings balance 1mm to the handle

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Thanks, I am just a bit wary of increasing the total weight - could be be too much for my delicate wrists :)
 

krikamons

New User
Thanks, I am just a bit wary of increasing the total weight - could be be too much for my delicate wrists :)
Or i should have probably said - not sure a shorter balance at the expense of only more static weight in the handle would make the racket more whippy (if I am already struggling with the existing setup)?
 

stocchero

New User
Or i should have probably said - not sure a shorter balance at the expense of only more static weight in the handle would make the racket more whippy (if I am already struggling with the existing setup)?
I don't think weight in buttcap will give you problems, is not a weight you feel that much. But if you want a lower balance with same weight (or less), then you must go inside the pallets and see if there is lead pieces in the upper handle, and move some to the lower handle.

It sounds complicated, but it is not.

The thing is, by doing this, it is expected that your racquet will be more polarized, with its implications... And sw wont be changed, so if this is what makes you struggle...

Just trying you will know for sure...

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bateman

New User
Probably a question that has been asked a lot: I'm thinking of ordering a second custom tc100, with the exact spec's of my first order, will the new one be identical in all aspects incl SW to the previous one?
 
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