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Gee

Hall of Fame
Paul really needs to do the TC100 63 in 18x20. I would be all over that.
Recently I sold my TC95 63RA 18x20 to my mate while I purchased two TC100s 63RA on the first impulse after one demo session.
I sold my TC95s as I was looking for a bit more forgiven frame with similar feel. That's why I suggested the TC100 would be a good candidate

Unfortunately I figured out that the TC100 is still too powerful and too lively for my game after a few matches.

I also own the TC97 18x20 66RA that gives me much better control. It only feels a tad too firm/stiff to my taste.

So I would like to see a TC98 (or TC97) 18x20 63RA added to the Angell series.

Currently I'll switch back to my Völkl C10 Pro that has a more comfortable softer feel than my TC97.
 

StanAO14

Rookie
Recently I sold my TC95 63RA 18x20 to my mate while I purchased two TC100s 63RA on the first impulse after one demo session.
I sold my TC95s as I was looking for a bit more forgiven frame with similar feel. That's why I suggested the TC100 would be a good candidate

Unfortunately I figured out that the TC100 is still too powerful and too lively for my game after a few matches.

I also own the TC97 18x20 66RA that gives me much better control. It only feels a tad too firm/stiff to my taste.

So I would like to see a TC98 (or TC97) 18x20 63RA added to the Angell series.

Currently I'll switch back to my Völkl C10 Pro that has a more comfortable softer feel than my TC97.
What about Tc 95 16/19 63ra as i red that the 95 and 97 have 'identical' head size?
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
What about Tc 95 16/19 63ra as i red that the 95 and 97 have 'identical' head size?
Indeed I considered the TC95 16x19 63RA.
Looking back the TC95 16x19 63RA would be a better choice than the TC100 for my game but I was so blown away because of the huge serve capacities of the TC100.

First I also thought the headsize of the TC95 and TC97 were identical but after a more precise measurement I still noticed a very slight difference in size. The TC97 plays a little more forgiving as well. For example I can hit my slice backhand just a little easier with the TC97.
 

topspn

Legend
Hit with my TC95 today for a couple of hours. Team drills and a set at the end. The L4 grip is just the right size for me! My grip was more relaxed and felt very natural. I’ve had 3 different strings so far strung @45lbs on my TC95s and I seem to have really gelled with this frame at this tension. I think polys are performing extremely well and a bit of longevity to boot.
 
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alexdoro

New User
Hit with my TC95 today for a couple of hours. Team drills and a set at the end. The L4 grip is just the right size for me! My grip was more relaxed and felt very natural. I’ve had 3 different strings so far strung @45lbs on my TC95s and I seem to have really gelled with this frame at this tension. I think polys are performing extremely and a bit of longevity to boot.
Awesome! Do you know whats the angell leather thickness? I didnt find this info
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
Another TC100 on its way, let the games begin...I'd like to dedicate a full year to this frame (racquetaholism permitting), dial in strings and really find out where my game is at. I feel like I'm at crossroads, really. Trying to perfect my serve, for instance, but I'm like Novak in his worst years - double faulting machine. I'm pretty sure that TC100 is the perfect platform to build a high level game upon.
 

smirker

Hall of Fame
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Recently I sold my TC95 63RA 18x20 to my mate while I purchased two TC100s 63RA on the first impulse after one demo session.
I sold my TC95s as I was looking for a bit more forgiven frame with similar feel. That's why I suggested the TC100 would be a good candidate

Unfortunately I figured out that the TC100 is still too powerful and too lively for my game after a few matches.

I also own the TC97 18x20 66RA that gives me much better control. It only feels a tad too firm/stiff to my taste.

So I would like to see a TC98 (or TC97) 18x20 63RA added to the Angell series.

Currently I'll switch back to my Völkl C10 Pro that has a more comfortable softer feel than my TC97.
I think we have similar tastes in rackets. Have just acquired a pair of Head IG Prestige mp's which are supposed to be low powered but they don't feel that way to me. Good feel from the thin beam and plenty of power imo. Was going to try the TC97 18x20 but not sure I need to now. I agree, a TC97 or 98 18x20 with a lower ra could be very good. The 100 is a very powerful frame which is why I didn't buy one.
 
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Recently I sold my TC95 63RA 18x20 to my mate while I purchased two TC100s 63RA on the first impulse after one demo session.
I sold my TC95s as I was looking for a bit more forgiven frame with similar feel. That's why I suggested the TC100 would be a good candidate

Unfortunately I figured out that the TC100 is still too powerful and too lively for my game after a few matches.

I also own the TC97 18x20 66RA that gives me much better control. It only feels a tad too firm/stiff to my taste.

So I would like to see a TC98 (or TC97) 18x20 63RA added to the Angell series.

Currently I'll switch back to my Völkl C10 Pro that has a more comfortable softer feel than my TC97.
overall I'm very glad I made the switch to 16 by 19 frames though it's true I modernized a lot of my game at the same time I did that. I switched my grip for my forehand and altered my second serve significantly... tc95 63ra 16x19. is one hell of a stick!

if I were playing doubles often I might want to have the 18 x 20 version available in my bag as well though.

Another TC100 on its way, let the games begin...I'd like to dedicate a full year to this frame (racquetaholism permitting), dial in strings and really find out where my game is at. I feel like I'm at crossroads, really. Trying to perfect my serve, for instance, but I'm like Novak in his worst years - double faulting machine. I'm pretty sure that TC100 is the perfect platform to build a high level game upon.
I found the 16 x 19 string pattern really can help with second serve margin as well as first serves when you just simply want to be putting the ball in with higher margin as well. I also find it helps me on service returns on my backhand side because I can take bigger cuts at the ball and and use the greater topspin potential to pull it back in. overall greater amounts of topspin from a 16 by 19 just feels more modern a game to me. Note most of my second serves are American twists so I rely on the greater spin potential to create the variability on my seconds off the bounce... the thing with modern tennis is is that poly strings have made returning easier so if you're facing an opponent who knows your serves well introducing more variability off the bounce is a crucial thing.... they've seen the serve before but they don't quite know what's going to happen after it hits the ground.
 
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haqq777

Legend
Hello friends,

So I have been playing around with strings in all of my Custom TC100s lately. So far I have found the firmer copolys to really complement my 70 RA TC100 a lot. Have been ripping the fuzz off balls using Volkl Cyclone and RPM Blast with lovely spin and control. Have had atleast half a dozen string jobs between both my firmer TC100s and loving the combo.

I have also found that both my softer TC100s are more string sensitive and type+tension really changes the way those sticks plays. More than their firmer counterparts actually.

Finally, after using a bunch of strings, best copoly so far has been RS Lyon, hands down. Have used varied tensions and 48-50lbs mark takes the cake. I have used Tourbite, Silverstring, Hyper-G, Cyclone, Red Code and a few others. Also playtested the new Laserfibre Native Tour 17 in it and it was meh. Did you have any similar experience gentlemen? Thoughts? @topspn @Backhanded Compliment @joohan

Also, is it just me or do the usual grommets start deshaping just after 3-4 string jobs? Much softer than most other brands in my limited experience so far.

Cheers!
 
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Kozzy

Semi-Pro
My wish is TC90 RA63. Anyone selling his Vantage?
I might be crazy, but I really love the RA70 - I've always preferred more flex, but somehow it just feels right in this configuration. Seems to give more pop.

One thing I've done recently is convert my 330g/305mm balance TC90 to a more even balance. I did the following:

- removed the pallet and took out one set of lead weights (about 28g, I think).
- added about 14g spread around 3/9/12
- with over grip, and strung, I've ended up with a racquet that's about 340g with a balance about 3pt HL (333m)

I like this setup because I feel like I can swing easier, and it crunches the ball a bit more. I suppose it's not really as whippy-feeling as it was before, but it is still quite maneuverable.

To top it all off, I ordered a second TC90 with the same specs as my original - and then applied the same customizations to a T. The end result? Two identical racquets! Unreal - such fine craftsmanship.
 
Hello friends,

So I have been playing around with strings in all of my Custom TC100s lately. So far I have found the firmer copolys to really complement my 70 RA TC100 a lot. Have been ripping the fuzz off balls using Volkl Cyclone and RPM Blast with lovely spin and control. Have had atleast half a dozen string jobs between both my firmer TC100s and loving the combo.

I have also found that both my softer TC100s are more string sensitive and type+tension really changes the way those sticks plays. More than their firmer counterparts actually.

Finally, after using a bunch of strings, best copoly so far has been RS Lyon, hands down. Have used varied tensions and 48-50lbs mark takes the cake. I have used Tourbite, Silverstring, Hyper-G, Cyclone, Red Code and a few others. Also playtested the new Laserfibre Native Tour 17 in it and it was meh. Did you have any similar experience gentlemen? Thoughts? @topspn @Backhanded Compliment @joohan

Also, is it just me or do the usual grommets start deshaping just after than 3-4 string jobs? Much softer than most other brands in my limited experience so far.

Cheers!
Yeah so far RsLyon has been the clear favorite but I plan to try max power some time... thing is I havent dropped a set in over a month!!! ...and that keeps me from wanting to change anything

That said my main hitting partner (understandably sick of my winning streak) is trying out RSLyon with forten sweet as a cross. After about 12 hours the full bed of RSlyon was done for him in his tc100 and he wasnt getting pop on his serves. He was missing that and is trying a hybrid. I think a cross of scorpion might be interesting and Yonex Poly tour pro should be good too.
 

beltsman

Legend
overall I'm very glad I made the switch to 16 by 19 frames though it's true I modernized a lot of my game at the same time I did that. I switched my grip for my forehand and altered my second serve significantly... tc95 63ra 16x19. is one hell of a stick!

if I were playing doubles often I might want to have the 18 x 20 version available in my bag as well though.


I found the 16 x 19 string pattern really can help with second serve margin as well as first serves when you just simply want to be putting the ball in with higher margin as well. I also find it helps me on service returns on my backhand side because I can take bigger cuts at the ball and and use the greater topspin potential to pull it back in. overall greater amounts of topspin from a 16 by 19 just feels more modern a game to me. Note most of my second serves are American twists so I rely on the greater spin potential to create the variability on my seconds off the bounce... the thing with modern tennis is is that poly strings have made returning easier so if you're facing an opponent who knows your serves well introducing more variability off the bounce is a crucial thing.... they've seen the serve before but they don't quite know what's going to happen after it hits the ground.
Just wait until you try a V-grip, you'll go another level higher ;)

Are you full bed RS Lyon? Sorry, I haven't been following closely lately.
 

haqq777

Legend
Try Max Power by Kirschbaum! Loved it even more than RSLyon. And yes the grommets are the angells weak spot imo.
Yeah so far RsLyon has been the clear favorite but I plan to try max power some time... thing is I havent dropped a set in over a month!!! ...and that keeps me from wanting to change anything

That said my main hitting partner (understandably sick of my winning streak) is trying out RSLyon with forten sweet as a cross. After about 12 hours the full bed of RSlyon was done for him in his tc100 and he wasnt getting pop on his serves. He was missing that and is trying a hybrid. I think a cross of scorpion might be interesting and Yonex Poly tour pro should be good too.
Yeah I wouldn't want to change anything if I was on a winning streak too. What level do you play at? I'm a 5.0 and must admit, with the kind and level of people I hit with, winning streaks (and that too for a month) are a rarity and very hard to come by. Some of the younger guys I have hit with have played Futures and train all over and are even ranked. Some are very promising juniors. I beat a former Blue Chip not too long ago in a tough 3 setter and I think he's going to win big at college. Monster serve and he used a sub 300g strung Babolat Aeropro Lite bone stock (I know!)

Coming back to topic, for RS Lyon the playability of twelve hours is actually more than I get. I get about 10 hours after which I can tell the string is done. RS Lyon was no different in that regard and pretty standard as polys do not last me longer than that. I did try YPTP and while it wad good, not nearly as comfortable as full bed RS Lyon.

Thanks for the idea for Kirschbaum Maxpower and WC Scorpion. That sounds very intriguing. I'll try them both full bed next. I was a big fan of B5E from WC for a long time. I wonder how that would play too. Guess there is a ton of experimenting to do.

Cheers.
 
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Hey! Ho! Yay!

I've made the conversion to the TC95. I did it. Ye-haw! The journey took it's usual detour.

  • December PS85
  • January PS90
  • February ~ March flirting with the TC97, but hadn't quite let go of the PS90.
  • April hard choice took my beloved PS90 for the annual sojourn to Slovenia.
  • June picked up a PS95 6.1 25th anniversary edition and moved to it full time. Instant love.
  • July popped by Taiwan to grab the TC95 that's been sitting at the office for 7-8 months.
  • July end Toronto: fully immersed in the TC95. The guys on this forum are correct, it's a great all around stick.
  • July 30th I'm wondering if I ought to add a bit of weight to the thing. Where? and more importantly, why?

I'm here now. Over my lust for the classic mids. In my heart I knew I didn't love the PS90 quite as much as the 85, but stubbornly held the course to transition to a larger frame.

Thankfully the PS95 6.1 25th anniversary happened to come along. If I hadn't been hitting with that wonderful frame for a few months I doubt I'd have found my way to the TC95.
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
Hello friends,

So I have been playing around with strings in all of my Custom TC100s lately. So far I have found the firmer copolys to really complement my 70 RA TC100 a lot. Have been ripping the fuzz off balls using Volkl Cyclone and RPM Blast with lovely spin and control. Have had atleast half a dozen string jobs between both my firmer TC100s and loving the combo.

I have also found that both my softer TC100s are more string sensitive and type+tension really changes the way those sticks plays. More than their firmer counterparts actually.

Finally, after using a bunch of strings, best copoly so far has been RS Lyon, hands down. Have used varied tensions and 48-50lbs mark takes the cake. I have used Tourbite, Silverstring, Hyper-G, Cyclone, Red Code and a few others. Also playtested the new Laserfibre Native Tour 17 in it and it was meh. Did you have any similar experience gentlemen? Thoughts? @topspn @Backhanded Compliment @joohan

Also, is it just me or do the usual grommets start deshaping just after 3-4 string jobs? Much softer than most other brands in my limited experience so far.

Cheers!
I'd add Yonex Poly Tour Spin to the mix, at least for the 63RA option. I've not yet experimented with strings in my TC100. I will be getting another one soon, though, and I'll do proper string testing.
 

topspn

Legend
Hello friends,

So I have been playing around with strings in all of my Custom TC100s lately. So far I have found the firmer copolys to really complement my 70 RA TC100 a lot. Have been ripping the fuzz off balls using Volkl Cyclone and RPM Blast with lovely spin and control. Have had atleast half a dozen string jobs between both my firmer TC100s and loving the combo.

I have also found that both my softer TC100s are more string sensitive and type+tension really changes the way those sticks plays. More than their firmer counterparts actually.

Finally, after using a bunch of strings, best copoly so far has been RS Lyon, hands down. Have used varied tensions and 48-50lbs mark takes the cake. I have used Tourbite, Silverstring, Hyper-G, Cyclone, Red Code and a few others. Also playtested the new Laserfibre Native Tour 17 in it and it was meh. Did you have any similar experience gentlemen? Thoughts? @topspn @Backhanded Compliment @joohan

Also, is it just me or do the usual grommets start deshaping just after 3-4 string jobs? Much softer than most other brands in my limited experience so far.

Cheers!
Yeah, that is pretty spot on. My favorite strings in 70 RA were in fact crisp a bit firmer. RPM does top my list and you can rip the ball comfortably and produce monster serves with some wonderful kick. I put RPM in the 63RA and wanted to cut it out in the first 20 minutes. It was totally brittle in the 63RA. Once again, I agree especially in the TC100 63RA that RS Lyon compliments the feel as well as temper some power, its good combination. I also tried Halo 2 and T1 firewire. The T1 string is a no go, comfortable feel but so out of control. Halo2 liked more and spin potential was very good. It broke in the first 2 hours though and did have a bit more power then i wanted. Interestingly, Halo 2 was pretty good in TC95 63RA @45lbs. What else works well in TC100 63ra? Yonex PTF 1.25 @48lbs, head hawk and YTEX square-x. I liked MP rough on my first hit then it turned mushy and I really dislike mushy feel. I have never tried with round MP and people say they play different.
 

haqq777

Legend
Yeah, that is pretty spot on. My favorite strings in 70 RA were in fact crisp a bit firmer. RPM does top my list and you can rip the ball comfortably and produce monster serves with some wonderful kick. I put RPM in the 63RA and wanted to cut it out in the first 20 minutes. It was totally brittle in the 63RA. Once again, I agree especially in the TC100 63RA that RS Lyon compliments the feel as well as temper some power, its good combination. I also tried Halo 2 and T1 firewire. The T1 string is a no go, comfortable feel but so out of control. Halo2 liked more and spin potential was very good. It broke in the first 2 hours though and did have a bit more power then i wanted. Interestingly, Halo 2 was pretty good in TC95 63RA @45lbs. What else works well in TC100 63ra? Yonex PTF 1.25 @48lbs, head hawk and YTEX square-x. I liked MP rough on my first hit then it turned mushy and I really dislike mushy feel. I have never tried with round MP and people say they play different.
Excellent, thanks for the feedback. I am intrigued with both Halo 2 and Max Power. Have never used Halo line before so not sure what are the characteristics it entails. Have played with MP and MP rough both but not in these frames so will be interesting. Next on my list whenever I find time. Will definitely share experience here.
 

topspn

Legend
Excellent, thanks for the feedback. I am intrigued with both Halo 2 and Max Power. Have never used Halo line before so not sure what are the characteristics it entails. Have played with MP and MP rough both but not in these frames so will be interesting. Next on my list whenever I find time. Will definitely share experience here.
Only played Halo2 in the line. One string job in TC100 63RA and another in TC95 63RA. Crisp string with excellent comfort so no plasticky or mushy feel. Grabs the ball well and spin potential is high. Love it on serves with banana spins and kick serves are huge. A bit too much power on the TC100 ground strokes but I will be trying it again and taking it down to 48lbs instead of the 52lbs. I know this may not make sense but I am finding that playability of these frames and how well polys perform is best on lower tensions so even control gets a bit better.
 
Yeah I wouldn't want to change anything if I was on a winning streak too. What level do you play at? I'm a 5.0 and must admit, with the kind and level of people I hit with, winning streaks (and that too for a month) are a rarity and very hard to come by. Some of the younger guys I have hit with have played Futures and train all over and are even ranked. Some are very promising juniors. I beat a former Blue Chip not too long ago in a tough 3 setter and I think he's going to win big at college. Monster serve and he used a sub 300g strung Babolat Aeropro Lite bone stock (I know!)

Coming back to topic, for RS Lyon the playability of twelve hours is actually more than I get. I get about 10 hours after which I can tell the string is done. RS Lyon was no different in that regard and pretty standard as polys do not last me longer than that. I did try YPTP and while it wad good, not nearly as comfortable as full bed RS Lyon.

Thanks for the idea for Kirschbaum Maxpower and WC Scorpion. That sounds very intriguing. I'll try them both full bed next. I was a big fan of B5E from WC for a long time. I wonder how that would play too. Guess there is a ton of experimenting to do.

Cheers.
Consider yonex poly tour pro as well as max power and scorpion (as a cross... I find it too powerful in an Angell but in a prestige MP I loved it).

tough to assign my level, I train and play quality players but tennis is not about winning anymore, Ive hit with very strong players a lot. Myself Im former college player, got injured... quit for 16 years. Came back after hitting with a futures player and retooled my game for poly strings (switched from eastern FH to semiwestern and changed my serves). I hit a lot with a former teaching pro and WTA hitting partner from SF who played for Andover too (who is younger than me)and am currently destroying his game... others I hit with are nationally ranked 50+ players (im late 40s)... just not losing to any of em and I play twice a week. Im a streaky player with an artistic flare.... Guga meets Stan but grew up with Edberg and Lendl but would rather lose playing the way I want to than win ugly. Likely playing the best tennis of my life if I average all the matches this month... I havent truly zoned out in over a year so I can play "better" but a 7 match winning steak is very rare for me too... much less without dropping a set. My biggest enemy is my own brain (over thinking) or not getting enough sleep, I often am staying up late as a writer. Basically, Im a fun player to watch or play... I dont do boring... I can hit those Edberg running topspin backhands for dtl and crosscourt winners... I swear my hitting partners sometimes try to take me out wide just to see those. That's my attitude... I love playing with players better than me like futures or former 6.0 #1 DI women because they give me clean balls and no junk.
 
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haqq777

Legend
Consider yonex poly tour pro as well as max power and scorpion (as a cross... I find it too powerful in an Angell but in a prestige MP I loved it).

tough to assign my level, I train and play quality players but tennis is not about winning anymore, Ive hit with very strong players a lot. Myself Im former college player, got injured... quit for 16 years. Came back after hitting with a futures player and retooled my game for poly strings (switched from eastern FH to semiwestern and changed my serves). I hit a lot with a former teaching pro and WTA hitting partner from SF who played for Andover too (who is younger than me)and am currently destroying his game... others I hit with are nationally ranked 50+ players (im late 40s)... just not losing to any of em and I play twice a week. Im a streaky player with an artistic flare.... Guga meets Stan but grew up with Edberg and Lendl but would rather lose playing the way I want to than win ugly. Likely playing the best tennis of my life if I average all the matches this month... I havent truly zoned out in over a year so I can play "better" but a 7 match winning steak is very rare for me too... much less without dropping a set. My biggest enemy is my own brain (over thinking) or not getting enough sleep, I often am staying up late as a writer. Basically, Im a fun player to watch or play... I dont do boring... I can hit those Edberg running topspin backhands for dtl and crosscourt winners... I swear my hitting partners sometimes try to take me out wide just to see those. That's my attitude... I love playing with players better than me like futures or former 6.0 #1 DI women because they give me clean balls and no junk.
Wonderful! And very intrigued, really. Would like to see a video of you hitting if possible? Our coach always made us play with his contacts who had played at high level tournaments and atleast had ITF ranking points just because some of the positives start to reflect in your own game in one way or the other. I'm a former college player as well, 34 yo, played 3 years of Div college on full ride and graduated (got my undergrad in 05). I still remember Isner was making waves at that time, was named All American and the SEC freshman of the year.

Anyway, I digress. Completely see your point about playing with clean, consistent hitters. Boosts my own game as well.

Good luck with your writing endeavors too. Beautiful feeling when you get published. I do a little bit of writing myself. Started as side hobby for my HS newsletter and stuck with me till date. Really helped later on with my dissertation when my peers were learning APA and I was already killing it.

Hope to continue seeing your contributions here in the future!
 
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Wonderful! And very intrigued, really. Would like to see a video of you hitting if possible? Our coach always made us play with his contacts who had played at high level tournaments and atleast had ITF ranking points just because some of the positives start to reflect in your own game in one way or the other. I'm a former college player as well, 34 yo, played 3 years of Div college on full ride and graduated (got my undergrad in 05). I still remember Isner was making waves at that time, was named All American and the SEC freshman of the year.

Anyway, I digress. Completely see your point about playing with clean, consistent hitters. Boosts my own game as well.

Good luck with your writing endeavors too. Beautiful feeling when you get published. I do a little bit of writing myself. Started as side hobby for my HS newsletter and stuck with me till date. Really helped later on with my dissertation when my peers were learning APA and I was already killing it.

Hope to continue seeing your contributions here in the future!
Oh thanks... I only played div3 (in the 90's) but poly strings in many ways weaponized parts of my game in interesting ways (backhand and returns especially). Its been a while sice Ive done video... last time was a few years ago and it was interesting though Im unlikely to share anything publicly... Im a professional writer but thats just part of what I do and since im very much in the public eye where I live I try to keep my fun time (tennis anonymous). Still I am curious about video... my hitting partners have mentioned how well Im moving and it would be interesting to see the difference (Im certainly jumping rope better). Also my last video was when I was hitting with the Pacific X Feel pro 95 (about the most demanding 95 there is) and Im curious how Ive changed since switching to the Angell TC95. Certainly I play a more relaxed game and Im not at the net quite as much.... Ive been with the TC95 for a year and a half now and I enjoy the higher # of free points on serve... part of getting older is the efficiency on service games becomes more important.

All that said my winning streak is perhaps more because 2 out of my 3 main hitting partners are having a slump... Im playing tomorrow Ill see how it goes... Im still not feeling super competitive about it... I just want some interesting, memorable points ... lately there have been some that use almost every inch of the court. In an era of mostly pure baseline tennis that interests me.

Mostly my change to the TC95 asked me to learn how to use that super heavy rally ball the Tc95 hits... it just kind of explodes off the court even when Im only hitting at 75% power... especially the backhand.

Hey! Ho! Yay!

I've made the conversion to the TC95. I did it. Ye-haw! The journey took it's usual detour.

  • December PS85
  • January PS90
  • February ~ March flirting with the TC97, but hadn't quite let go of the PS90.
  • April hard choice took my beloved PS90 for the annual sojourn to Slovenia.
  • June picked up a PS95 6.1 25th anniversary edition and moved to it full time. Instant love.
  • July popped by Taiwan to grab the TC95 that's been sitting at the office for 7-8 months.
  • July end Toronto: fully immersed in the TC95. The guys on this forum are correct, it's a great all around stick.
  • July 30th I'm wondering if I ought to add a bit of weight to the thing. Where? and more importantly, why?

I'm here now. Over my lust for the classic mids. In my heart I knew I didn't love the PS90 quite as much as the 85, but stubbornly held the course to transition to a larger frame.

Thankfully the PS95 6.1 25th anniversary happened to come along. If I hadn't been hitting with that wonderful frame for a few months I doubt I'd have found my way to the TC95.
Yee haw... yeah the TC95 is a beast. It doesnt play like a mid but it has its own thing "Heaviness" dang if it doesnt hit like a ton of bricks for groundstrokes, returns and serves. just, just... fun. It plays like its made of testosterone... no low T tennis with that thing.
 

beltsman

Legend
Sigh, lost a tough 3 hour match today 3-6 6-4 6-4 with my TC100. I was using my full Hyper-G setup and played well for the first half of the match, but really faltered towards the end. The last few games I was spraying my FH wildly, usually my most consistent weapon. The strings started spongy and felt completely loose by the end. I'll have to check the tension. I know they started spongy but wow I had zero control by the end of the match. My own stringing job, so my own fault.

Looking forward to trying this out with natural gut mains and round poly crosses. Two consistent factors with my full Hyper-G setup: not enough power, and inconsistent ball response. I'm hoping to solve both.

Edit: Thinking about this match, so frustrating. In the first game of the second set I had a break point. Bossed the point and approached on a well-hit CC FH that took him deep off the court. He his a desperation lob that I thought landed out, in fact I'm 85% sure of it, but it was close so I called it good. He went on to save a few BP more that game and hold.

Later, I got the break I wanted to put me up 3*-2 after about 5 BP attempts (finally got it on a beautiful running FH lob), but I promptly donated the break back to put us on serve 3-3*. I then imploded for a few games and got broken again to make it 3-5*, with him serving for the set. I pulled out another break, barely, after saving a few set points to get back on serve 4*-5. Then of course I promptly got broken again to lose the set on a FH DTL a foot wide.

Third set, we were neck and neck. I managed to get maybe 4 BP chances but missed all of them. Then, towards the end, my FH began to spray and there was nothing I could do but watch it slip away.

Fun fact: I didn't miss a single topspin BH the entire match. I should have hit it more, but I sliced way too much and ran around to hit FHs - which is fine, until my FH turned into hot garbage.
 
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Tordne

Semi-Pro
I currently have a TC97 18x20 320g/315mm in my collection but have been playing a bunch of other frames lately. I'm having a little arm sensitivity and the Angell has come back on my radar. Being a tight pattern I'm just struggling a little with the lower launch angel. So, I'm considering getting a TC100 to audition for the bag.

I'm hoping people here might be able to answer a few questions/considerations I have:
1) Comparison of the power level of the TC100 63RA (ideally 320g/310mm spec) to the Babolat Pure Strike (ProjectOne7)?
2) Thoughts on power, comfort etc. of the TC100 63RA vs. 70RA?
3) I've read a ton of comments about the TC95 63RA being a "serve monster". So I'm kinda thinking, seeing as 5sqin is pretty minimal, that might be a better option. So how do people think pace of serve compares between the TC100 63RA and the TC95 63RA?

Thanks heaps for your input.
 

topspn

Legend
I currently have a TC97 18x20 320g/315mm in my collection but have been playing a bunch of other frames lately. I'm having a little arm sensitivity and the Angell has come back on my radar. Being a tight pattern I'm just struggling a little with the lower launch angel. So, I'm considering getting a TC100 to audition for the bag.

I'm hoping people here might be able to answer a few questions/considerations I have:
1) Comparison of the power level of the TC100 63RA (ideally 320g/310mm spec) to the Babolat Pure Strike (ProjectOne7)?
2) Thoughts on power, comfort etc. of the TC100 63RA vs. 70RA?
3) I've read a ton of comments about the TC95 63RA being a "serve monster". So I'm kinda thinking, seeing as 5sqin is pretty minimal, that might be a better option. So how do people think pace of serve compares between the TC100 63RA and the TC95 63RA?

Thanks heaps for your input.
Have you tried playing at a much lower tension with your current TC97? Perhaps it is worth trying before you spend money so just a suggestion.

1. Project one7 is very easy to swing and generate power. TC100 will ask you to use technique but also tons of power. The one7 is easier to generate power but both have plenty of power. TC100 will generate a much heavier ball.
2. TC100 63RA power is more. They are both extremely comfortable. The 63 RA has better touch, a better volley stick and bigger serves and not because the 70RA is a slouch by any means
3. TC95 is a serve monster and TC100 is an even bigger monster. And they both produce addictive kick, twist, etc.
 
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Hoosh

New User
Sigh, lost a tough 3 hour match today 3-6 6-4 6-4 with my TC100. I was using my full Hyper-G setup and played well for the first half of the match, but really faltered towards the end. The last few games I was spraying my FH wildly, usually my most consistent weapon. The strings started spongy and felt completely loose by the end. I'll have to check the tension. I know they started spongy but wow I had zero control by the end of the match. My own stringing job, so my own fault.

Looking forward to trying this out with natural gut mains and round poly crosses. Two consistent factors with my full Hyper-G setup: not enough power, and inconsistent ball response. I'm hoping to solve both.

Edit: Thinking about this match, so frustrating. In the first game of the second set I had a break point. Bossed the point and approached on a well-hit CC FH that took him deep off the court. He his a desperation lob that I thought landed out, in fact I'm 85% sure of it, but it was close so I called it good. He went on to save a few BP more that game and hold.

Later, I got the break I wanted to put me up 3*-2 after about 5 BP attempts (finally got it on a beautiful running FH lob), but I promptly donated the break back to put us on serve 3-3*. I then imploded for a few games and got broken again to make it 3-5*, with him serving for the set. I pulled out another break, barely, after saving a few set points to get back on serve 4*-5. Then of course I promptly got broken again to lose the set on a FH DTL a foot wide.

Third set, we were neck and neck. I managed to get maybe 4 BP chances but missed all of them. Then, towards the end, my FH began to spray and there was nothing I could do but watch it slip away.

Fun fact: I didn't miss a single topspin BH the entire match. I should have hit it more, but I sliced way too much and ran around to hit FHs - which is fine, until my FH turned into hot garbage.
That stinks, sounds like a hard fought loss :(

FWIW, I play a heavy topspin game and since the acquisition of tennis elbow, I've had great success with Babolot Tonic +ball feel mains and Monogut ZX crosses. I am still experimenting with tension on my TC95, but in a DR98 and a prince 100p, 52m x 54 crosses played nice. Gamma glide made a nice cross too, but I liked the feel of the Ashaway Monogut ZX better.


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Tordne

Semi-Pro
Have you tried playing at a much lower tension with your current TC97? Perhaps it is worth trying before you spend money so just a suggestion.

1. Project one7 is very easy to swing and generate power. TC100 will ask you to use technique but also tons of power. The one7 is easier to generate power but both have plenty of power. TC100 will generate a much heavier ball.
2. TC100 63RA power is more. They are both extremely comfortable. The 63 RA has better touch, a better volley stick and bigger serves and not because the 70RA is a slouch by any means
3. TC95 is a serve monster and TC100 is an even bigger monster. And they both produce addictive kick, twist, etc.
Thanks very much for your feedback!

If the TC100 63RA is even close to the power of the Strike then it's totally an option. I can generate my own pace no problem, just a racket like the Strike gives me the ability to be more creative under pressure. Sounds like the TC100 63RA will be the same.

Any other contributors?
 
Thanks very much for your feedback!

If the TC100 63RA is even close to the power of the Strike then it's totally an option. I can generate my own pace no problem, just a racket like the Strike gives me the ability to be more creative under pressure. Sounds like the TC100 63RA will be the same.

Any other contributors?
it definitely is abd the thin beam is really nice and I can confirm it hits a very heavy ball... it's an all-time great serving stick

My streak is over... played my 8th match this month today... couldn't extend my winning streak to eight though. I just came out flat today. Perhaps it's also a sign that I've come to terms with my grief as well... it did give me unusual amounts of focus, like a wall, today i was more like a picket fence... lol. Also it was very hot and I suspect we had we played more than just tge one set I would have come out on top. That one set was determined by four forehands that I put into the net or long... usually between matches I do some serve practice and hit against the wall with dead balls. Didn't do that this time and I think it made a difference on my forehands with no pace and no man's land... the dead ball practice really helps.

that said I think my partner's combination of RS Lyon string crossed with Forten sweet for my worked out really well... he was able to bleed off pace and hit no man's Landers to my forehands in those crucial points and it returned a lot better for him as well. He added more weight as well I think he's at 12.8 now I'm playing at 12.7oz. That hybrid combo really helps his flatter hitting and lobs in particular... he doesn't hit a lot of topspin on his lobs they're mostly flat and he has fantastic hands so yes the tc100 does really work for a player with much more classic strokes. overall I don't think he likes full poly jobs he just has really classic strokes
 
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Tordne

Semi-Pro
it definitely is abd the thin beam is really nice and I can confirm it hits a very heavy ball... it's an all-time great serving stick

My streak is over... played my 8th match this month today... couldn't extend my winning streak to eight though. I just came out flat today. Perhaps it's also a sign that I've come to terms with my grief as well... it did give me unusual amounts of focus, like a wall, today i was more like a picket fence... lol. Also it was very hot and I suspect we had we played more than just tge one set I would have come out on top. That one set was determined by four forehands that I put into the net or long... usually between matches I do some serve practice and hit against the wall with dead balls. Didn't do that this time and I think it made a difference on my forehands with no pace and no man's land... the dead ball practice really helps.

that said I think my partner's combination of RS Lyon string crossed with Forten sweet for my worked out really well... he was able to bleed off pace and hit no man's Landers to my forehands in those crucial points and it returned a lot better for him as well. He added more weight as well I think he's at 12.8 now I'm playing at 12.7oz. That hybrid combo really helps his flatter hitting and lobs in particular... he doesn't hit a lot of topspin on his lobs they're mostly flat and he has fantastic hands so yes the tc100 does really work for a player with much more classic strokes. overall I don't think he likes full poly jobs he just has really classic strokes
I've been playing a lot as well lately. 6 of 7 days last week, and generally at least 4 times a week LOL. I play with a decent amount of topspin, no Nadal, but (according to my opponents anyway) enough to cause problems. The lower flex sounds like a good idea for long term arm health. I've been playing with a weighted up Prince Phantom the last couple of weeks and that seems to be helping. But that stick is just a little low powered - added 20 grams to get the mass up to where it's giving me what I need.

String wise I'm using Babolat Xcel French Open right now. I think that's a high quality multi and delivers more spin that Technifibre NRG2 (as a direct comparison). For summer I have 11 sets of Babolat VS Touch for the deserving racket :)

How would you compare the Angell synthetic grip quality, to something like the Babolat Syntec Pro, or Head HydroSorb Pro? I got the leather on my TC97 and it is no where near as nice as the Head or Prince Calfskins. So thinking of going synthetic this time around.
 
I've been playing a lot as well lately. 6 of 7 days last week, and generally at least 4 times a week LOL. I play with a decent amount of topspin, no Nadal, but (according to my opponents anyway) enough to cause problems. The lower flex sounds like a good idea for long term arm health. I've been playing with a weighted up Prince Phantom the last couple of weeks and that seems to be helping. But that stick is just a little low powered - added 20 grams to get the mass up to where it's giving me what I need.

String wise I'm using Babolat Xcel French Open right now. I think that's a high quality multi and delivers more spin that Technifibre NRG2 (as a direct comparison). For summer I have 11 sets of Babolat VS Touch for the deserving racket :)

How would you compare the Angell synthetic grip quality, to something like the Babolat Syntec Pro, or Head HydroSorb Pro? I got the leather on my TC97 and it is no where near as nice as the Head or Prince Calfskins. So thinking of going synthetic this time around.
I like the leather grip on my angel TC 95's But I definitely also use an overgrip so not the same sort of situation I suggest you just use whatever grip you like the best on your sticks players are so particular about that sort of thing for example I pretty much always use gamma Supreme over grips. the 63ra frames are more like 58 strung and very kind to the arm... big spin fron tc95 and tc100. ... noticed my hitting partners groundstrokes particularly his forehands have a great deal more heaviness since he's switch to the tc100, no question.
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
Thanks very much for your feedback!

If the TC100 63RA is even close to the power of the Strike then it's totally an option. I can generate my own pace no problem, just a racket like the Strike gives me the ability to be more creative under pressure. Sounds like the TC100 63RA will be the same.

Any other contributors?
TC100 63RA is a very complete, balanced frame. Defense, offense and, most importantly, switching between the two with one stroke is very easy. TC95 is great weapon if you're on the gas in the rallies and in defense it's ok (or better than most shotmaking frames), TC97 18x20 is entirely different species (measured, even tempered, best touch of the three - personal opinion) and it does not bail you out either, you have to work hard to dig yourself up.

Plus TC100 63RA hits great both flat and heavy topspin(I mean nasty topspin) too. Truly unique frame with all its attributes blended in so well.
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
I like the leather grip on my angel TC 95's But I definitely also use an overgrip so not the same sort of situation I suggest you just use whatever grip you like the best on your sticks players are so particular about that sort of thing for example I pretty much always use gamma Supreme over grips. the 63ra frames are more like 58 strung and very kind to the arm... big spin fron tc95 and tc100. ... noticed my hitting partners groundstrokes particularly his forehands have a great deal more heaviness since he's switch to the tc100, no question.
I always use an overgrip as well, Yonex Supergrap for me. Yeah, I've seen that the RA comes down by about 5-6 points when pallets are added and strung. There is no stiffness issue at all with the TC97 18x20. The only thing I'm finding with that is that the launch angel is a bit low. I know I could get that marginally better with lower cross tensions etc. But I'm used to more open patterns lately and it's just an easier transition :) An extra 6 inches of net clearance is a massive deal.

A friend and I went to an event where they (attempted to) measure serve speed. When I served with the TC97 I immediately and consistently was hitting 12 kmh faster than with other frames, Strike included.
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
TC100 63RA is a very complete, balanced frame. Defense, offense and, most importantly, switching between the two with one stroke is very easy. TC95 is great weapon if you're on the gas in the rallies and in defense it's ok (or better than most shotmaking frames), TC97 18x20 is entirely different species (measured, even tempered, best touch of the three - personal opinion) and it does not bail you out either, you have to work hard to dig yourself up.

Plus TC100 63RA hits great both flat and heavy topspin(I mean nasty topspin) too. Truly unique frame with all its attributes blended in so well.
I knew there was some inevitability about getting one. But oyu guys are costing me real money here LOL.

Now I think I just need to think about the grip shape. Been a long time Head player so the A shape (which I have on the TC97) makes immediate sense. But having played with the Strike for a while I quite like the B (standard) shape as well. Then to make it more confusing playing with the Prince Phantom (played Prince before switching to Head) recently and that C shape is seeming very familiar as well. So basically I could choose any of them LOL.
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
I knew there was some inevitability about getting one. But oyu guys are costing me real money here LOL.

Now I think I just need to think about the grip shape. Been a long time Head player so the A shape (which I have on the TC97) makes immediate sense. But having played with the Strike for a while I quite like the B (standard) shape as well. Then to make it more confusing playing with the Prince Phantom (played Prince before switching to Head) recently and that C shape is seeming very familiar as well. So basically I could choose any of them LOL.
I hear you. I've got another TC100 already on the way.)

Forgot to add that TC100 is a serving machine. I practice on this multi-purpose court that has a sort of rubber hockey barrier (we call it mantinel) for winter ice rink use. It is around waistline high. With TC95 63RA 18x20 320g/305mm unstrung with Silverstring 1.25 at around 52 I was regularly hitting inside the service line and into the middle of the rubber. With 11.7oz/7HL TC100 I'm regularly hitting above the rubber into the net and that's barely half of the story as far as serving is concerned. 16x19 pattern, bigger headsize and increased confidence,I guess, lets me hit spots I could not regularly access before.

Hm...sounds like I'm overselling a bit. I think it's fair to say that my game and TC100 is a good match, that's why I'm so enthusiastic about it.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
I am actually coming away from the TC100 more and more. Yes it hits a mean spin, yes it serves good. But i don't find the frame that great for flatter harder hitters. I am back to the TC97 18x20 right now. That thing somehow gives me incredible confidence on the forehand. Balls dont come with as much spin as with the TC100 but they come with a lot more pace! The racket just allows me to go full out on the forehand. I played my best Tennis with it tonight, lost 6-1 6-2 against a much much higher ranked player, but it was very close in every game. I did give him a run for his money! I really liked how I played tonight, very aggressive. Liked RSLyon in the frame a lot more than YPTP.

Nonetheless I also ordered the Prince Phantom 100. Just to see. Since it is a 16x18 pattern I dont really think it suits my game. But I am just too curious!
 
I knew there was some inevitability about getting one. But oyu guys are costing me real money here LOL.

Now I think I just need to think about the grip shape. Been a long time Head player so the A shape (which I have on the TC97) makes immediate sense. But having played with the Strike for a while I quite like the B (standard) shape as well. Then to make it more confusing playing with the Prince Phantom (played Prince before switching to Head) recently and that C shape is seeming very familiar as well. So basically I could choose any of them LOL.
I really like the A grip shape, for me it makes a slight but noticeable difference
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
I am actually coming away from the TC100 more and more. Yes it hits a mean spin, yes it serves good. But i don't find the frame that great for flatter harder hitters. I am back to the TC97 18x20 right now. That thing somehow gives me incredible confidence on the forehand. Balls dont come with as much spin as with the TC100 but they come with a lot more pace! The racket just allows me to go full out on the forehand. I played my best Tennis with it tonight, lost 6-1 6-2 against a much much higher ranked player, but it was very close in every game. I did give him a run for his money! I really liked how I played tonight, very aggressive. Liked RSLyon in the frame a lot more than YPTP.

Nonetheless I also ordered the Prince Phantom 100. Just to see. Since it is a 16x18 pattern I dont really think it suits my game. But I am just too curious!
Depends on where you play as well. If I played only on hard courts I highly doubt I'd even contemplate TC100, 18x20 TC97 does everything well for that environment and type of play. On red clay it's a different story altogether.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Depends on where you play as well. If I played only on hard courts I highly doubt I'd even contemplate TC100, 18x20 TC97 does everything well for that environment and type of play. On red clay it's a different story altogether.
Good point! Forget to mention that I play on clay during the outdoor season. Playing on carpet during winter. But still I seem to prefer the TC97 18x20 on clay. Simply because it is such a constant factor. I feel like I know what ball is going to come, and where as soon as I hit it. With the TC100 sometimes there seems be an irradical launch angle if I dont hit a 100% clean shot, launching my ball in the fence. Might try and string the crosses at the same tension or higher than mains to tame it a bit. With what string , what tension and what method (1 or 2 piece) do you guys string the TC100?
 
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