Discussion in 'Racquets' started by The_Racketeer, Nov 21, 2015.
Blue grommets and YPTS. Way to go.
Don't have blue grommets my other racquet has black but not ready to restring it
Must try YTPS on my TC97, is that a combination you have tried?
Can someone compare TC95 16x19 > TC97 16x19 > TC97 18x20 for baseline play, mostly flat strokes. Current racket is Ai98
My TC100 now is red with YPTS
So, first court hitting with TC100 63 RA. Every observation from the wall was confirmed, plus racquet allowed me to swing freely and to hit with even bigger power than I thought. And the initial tension of the string bed has settled in so no least discomfort. All in all, congrats to the designer @Racketdesign , and I really mean it. I had my share of racquets to know when I have in my hands a good design. @BounceHitBounceHit I completely agree with your opinion, @joohan the same. And with everyone else who holds high of this racquet.
Your string setup?
Re-strung my new TC100, 64RA, 300G unstrung unit with RS Lyon 1.20 at 49 lbs. Yesterday I hit with a Wilson Synthetic Grip, I put the leather grip back on the racquet. Looking forward to a hit tomorrow evening.
Yes. Find it to be a very good match.
YPTP 1.25/SPPP 1.23 (pure) 24/23 kg
Silverstring popped yesterday, very impressed with this in my TC97. However I've had a pack of scorpion I've been meaning to try for a while now. Anyone with experience of it? String same tension as silverstring?
I would say yes
Wow found this way too stiff...maybe with a real slick synth gut it would be ok. But full bed I'd be catching sick in my mouth after 30mins of hitting with the elbow pain.
My TC100 63RA with RS Lyon 1.25, OG supergrab, #33 rubber band for a dampner and a little bit of tungsten @12 comes out to 338g and 8HL. Feels pretty damn perfect. When I get my other one on saturday strung with YPTS, I’ll measure as well and try to match as much as i can.
since i am a new Angell owner, forgive my ignorance. I bought my first Angell used. Its TC100, 64RA, 300G, 330 mm balance, 4 pts HL. The racquet came with a leather grip. So when Angell factors in the unstrung weight and labels the racquet, are they factoring with the leather grip installed? I know leather grips weigh more than synthetic. I just want to better understand. My guess is that the 300G would be with a standard synthetic grip.
Does my question make sense? I don't have a scale and I have no idea how much this weighs.
Yes, if an order says X g, Y mm, leather grip, then these specs will be achieved with grip installed.
Unstrung weight quoted includes leather grip installed
awesome, thanks guys. I took the leather off during my first hit and had some issues volleying and with slice. Makes sense now since the racquet was a lot lighter than my prostaff's which are close to 12 oz. I should get that additional stability with leather back on.
Am I the only one who likes the clear grommets? I have them in all three of my Angells ( 2xTC95 and 1xTC100).
Interesting observation from my end last night. Has me doubting things so much.
So these days I am hitting pretty heavy and high intensity with local D2 coach. Part of it was to lose some weight in the beginning (was 180 now back to 170) but after a few hard sessions, started enjoying it so much I just made it a regular hitting thing. He is young, graduated a couple years back and accepted the head coach position. Mid twenties, athletic and runs after every ball, just like me. The only difference is he is a pure returner. Me on the other hand, I try to put mustard on my forehands every now and then and I can hit them big. I am only 5'9 ish so I hit with proper technique, stepping in, unit turn, core rotation, the whole shabang. Weak link is the OHBH which is not as consistent obviously but I can still run around it and smack the ball around. Even though I'm 34, I beat the #3 kid they recruited last year (Spaniard kid) in straight sets (played D2 myself).
But anyway, coming back to my conundrum. Both my 63 RA TC100 are being strung. Was playing with the Tec LTD 315 16 mains. I have a wrist pain that has been bothering me since Jan. I'm hesistant to go have MRI done. Last time I had MRI done ten years ago, I had a tear in my shoulder tendon so you can understand the apprehension. So far Bengay and medical tape has kept it at bay. But anyway, I wasnt hitting the ball as hard and fast with the LTD 315. Could not afford to go stiffer racquets (had Babs in bag too along with 70RA TC100s) so I went with Donnay Pro One Dual Core since its 61 RA strung. Oh my God, even the guy across from me told me I was hitting like a maniac the forehands were so strong. Not as much spin, but quick with the 'thump' sound. Low net clearance. I have 18G pink Cyclone in that Donnay.
This has me in a lot of doubt. After playing tennis for over two decades now, have I been playing with the wrong string pattern? Was it the denser 18x20 that made my forehands look like a gift from God? I can tell you honestly that even with my TC 100 I do not drop bombs like that. I was not 'hot' I can tell you that so it wasn't like I was in a zone. I'm talking normal neutral rally balls when you hit. Was it the balance perhaps? Donnay always felt sluggish to me and more towards even balance not like the more HL sticks I regularly play with. Was it the non leather grip with OG? Or maybe just a change after a long time? Whatever it was, if I continue hitting like that (for almost two hours too), I am getting a couple more.
I will try and hit with both TC100 today when I get them back from stringing today. Compare head on. Really in doubt though. Not sure what I will do. I play with a eastern/modern eastern with straight arm for my forehand and eastern BH, to give an idea.
18x20 pattern doesn't make you hit harder by itself. It must be the racquet as well which lets you swing big and has a good energy return too. Obviously your regular stroke launches lower trajectory ball with 18x20, so directional speed of the ball is bigger, and obviously there's less topspin on it because of trajectory and pattern. But it doesn't mean ball is heavier as well. Ball in a loop may have identical speed yet directional speed will be lower because of different trajectory. So, thanks to topspin, ball hit with the open pattern racquet can be heavier. In the end you decide which is better. You can test it in a match situation to see which one is more effective for you against different players. And in the end, you can play with a certain racquet just because it brings more joy to you when hitting.
My experience as well that 18x20 hits harder ball maybe it's from confidence with controlled pattern or whatever but yes problem is I found that retrievers pushers and in general people that need other peoples pace can get flatter strokes back with ease.
Think mannarino vs quarray last night or mannarino vs pretty much any big hitter.
Also margins are smaller I feel with big hitting so if you are not on it's good night
Thanks. True. I have a feeling its the different balance of the stick as well, as a factor. My opponent was caught off-guard initially because he's used to a particular kind of ball coming back-to him. Wasn't like he couldn't return my shots. And with the denser string pattern racquet, I am guessing the ball was coming back to him faster, lower and well, different. Less net clearance, more pace. I think with 16x19 the spin compensates for the quickness (or directional speed as you called it). As @dgoran pointed, margins are smaller too. Maybe some other night I would have been hitting the net tape all night long, who knows.
Very good points. I was getting the balls back in from him once he got used to it, more than usual (even though from where I was hitting, it looked like I was hitting missiles). Retrievers like that kind of hitting. Flatter, less spinny returns are easy to put back in one more time.
One of my now regular hitting partners, when he was playing briefly with IGPMP (he is otherwise the open pattern player coming from years of playing with Yonex Tour and EZone racquets) he was hitting a really big ball. He always tries to generate decent topspin and was able to make up a lot, however this racquet made him work hard and he was hitting some bombs. However he didn't stick with it because he thought he needs to work too hard for it lol. Anyway, if I was you I would test it all and see what fits me better, with the open attitude
So much equipment so little time, my friend
I hear you
Interesting conversation! One of the things I like about TC100 is ability to flatten out. I like hitting topspn and throwing in a flattened hit, just throw off opposition with the change of pace
I've been browsing here for quite awhile and finally decided to make an account and join the Angell train! It was an absolute pleasure working with Paul and he worked to get the specifications of my racket just as I wanted. I wanted as close to 290SW as possible, BUT wanted the RA 63, TC95. He ended up completing my request today and the racket is supposed to arrive tomorrow.
TC95 - RA63 / 300.2g / 324mm / 292SW!
I'm hoping to get it strung tomorrow as well while I'm at it. To anyone out there, did you string your Angell rackets the same tension as your other rackets or is there a difference I should be aware of? I'm currently playing with the Pure Aero strung at 53 with RPM.
Welcome to the club @Siberia... Haven't had a chance to string mine yet, but I'm going to go with the usual set-up and string. That way I can compare it to my other racquets like-for-like, then decide how to set it up in the future. Interested in what others will say...
Very excited! Just ordered my first Angell. I decided on the TC95 16x19 RA 63. I chose to go with similar specs to one of my all time favorites, the Volkl PB10 Mid. Really anxious to get started with it!
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Anyone use an A shape handle? Why do you like it over the other two shapes?
The A shape will be familiar to those coming from the traditional Head grip shape.
Congratulations! Paul told me to string the same initially so that the only variable was the racquet. I was coming from a DR98. I experimented with a couple things but am personally liking 2 pounds less on both mains and crosses. 50/52.
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IMHO these frames come into their own at low tension. I had no trouble at all playing full poly @45lbs
Please share your thoughts on how it plays after you hit with it. I have myself one TC95 RA63 with lower SW than average, just like yours. And it plays and feels different from those with higher SW. I added lead to match the SW, but still not quite the same feel and character.
What was the SW of the one that plays different vs others?
I took my new TC100 out for a spin for the second time last night. Actually played some sets. New string job RS Lyon. All I can say is wow. Everything worked well. The first hit, I struggled with slice and volleys. After re-adding the leather grip, those issues went away. I was hitting shots that I'm not confident in hitting with my PS97. My only real struggle was my serve. I was serving long. Minor adjustment with a little practice. I was serving much harder and much more spin than my PS97. I'm a 52 year old 4.5 and was playing against one of my buddies that is a 27 year old 5.0. He hits a very heavy ball. He normally gets the best of me in rallies that go 10 shots or more but last night I was able to hang with him longer and absorb his pace due to the stability of the stick. I won more of the rallies than normal. The best part, I felt confident when rallying. I can't wait until the next hit.
I found the PS97 the red one.. to feel heavier in the head than the specs. Maybe this is why your hitting serve long, thinner beam of tc100 and faster racquet head speed?
Yep, I have the red one and it swings a lot heavier than the TC100 more even balanced. But I think you are right, I was swinging faster than I'm used to which was giving more pop. I should have just backed up a foot and served from there, lol. I did notice that I had pretty good directional control serving. When serving to deuce, I'm pretty good at nailing the T, I was missing the T but they were all close and just outside the line, consistently. Serve is normally my least concern because I can go out and hit 50 to 100 serves and figure it out. I've been wanting to find a lighter racquet than my Staffs but one that was stable and can absorb pace. So far, this fits the bill.
Serve is just down to getting your timing down on your motion and wrist snap. It will come easily once you have served a bit with it. So you like RS @48 it appears...cool
I am trying out the new Pure Strike, I'm sorry! Mostly just curiosity.
Yes, when warming up it felt a bit underpowered but once we started playing I didn't really notice it. It was very comfortable. I normally always hybrid. I did full poly and my arm and shoulder feel great today. I'll be going back to pick up some more at the great price of 7 bucks, lol.
Why sorry? I hit with an iPrestige Mid the other day and it felt like hitting with midsize TC97 18x20.
I hit with the Pure Strike 16X19 and 18X20. I wasn't really that all impressed with the 16X19. I liked the 18X20 better even though I'm not an 18X20 guy. I didn't spend a lot of time with either racquet but based upon initial hit, I would have preferred the 18X20. My son plays the PS100, new one, he loves it.
292 unstrung/ 321 strung. TC95 RA63.
While my other are ~300 unstrung/ ~330 strung.
I tried the project one7 and I thought it was super easy to pickup and play effective tennis with. Did everything very well except I kept getting soreness in my arm after i played. Obviously, i won’t contemplate at this point a racquet that gives me any soreness or pain but really good racquet. And don’t tell anyone, I also have a Duel G in my bag and think its a wonderful frame. If I didn’t have my Angells, Duel G would be my racquet for sure.
Yeah, mine were 301 and 302 unstrung and played great. I am surprised you could find a 292
The huge sweetspot on the PO7 (based on TW data) and thin beam, along with the power data, has me super intrigued. I've never seen anything like it.
I would love to see sweet spot and power data for Angells.
Like i said, its pretty good racquet! It won’t have the comfort, serve or heavy ball of a TC100. It is pretty whippy super fast, needs weight in the handle for added response on heavy balls and some @12 but very easy to play with.
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