The Official Angell Users Club

teekaywhy

Professional
John...I also received good customer service from Angell and had all my questions answered. However, I did notice a big difference in the response time based on what method you chose to use. For example, Facebook messenger got fast responses, but emails were slower. A perspective buyer does not know this and we only know it through experience. Maybe he should mention on his website his preferred method of contact? Also, many people do not have Facebook messenger. Perhaps there is a way to "channel" everything into one incoming que? Also an automated response saying we receieved your question and letting the customer know the time frame in which to expect an answer would be a good idea IMO.

Yes, I do commend Paul for showing up here and interacting with us. That is very refreshing and appreciated. It is a unique service he offers and many guys here seem to like his products. There are always ways to improve and to grow your business and if that's what he wants, there seems to be many ways to do that. Again, I'm not sure why there aren't distributors in the US and other places that would make his products
more accessible and visible? Just having demo's around would be a great help. It's a big step to buy something sight unseen without anything to go on other that word of mouth.
Can't say I know how the incoming que [sic] is handled but FIFO would seem to be how things are being handled now anyway. Serial processing is laggy in nature due to the individual consideration each request deserves.

That said, I know for a fact that there are US based reps. It's a nascent relationship and may not exist in your neighborhood. But the biggest mistake that small businesses make is growing too quickly.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Can't say I know how the incoming que [sic] is handled but FIFO would seem to be how things are being handled now anyway. Serial processing is laggy in nature due to the individual consideration each request deserves.

That said, I know for a fact that there are US based reps. It's a nascent relationship and may not exist in your neighborhood. But the biggest mistake that small businesses make is growing too quickly.
If there are US based reps, they aren't mentioned anywhere on the Angell website and I wouldn't know how to go about ordering from them.

Yes, it's a mistake to grow faster than what you can handle, but Vantage/Angell have been around for quite a while. Again...who knows if Paul even wants to be more than a "niche/boutique" style of business?
 

teekaywhy

Professional
well I am not MIT alumni probably to calculate naked hairpin balance and to do try/miss I would have to assembly everything after every weight - even my poor math say it is a lot of combination: with 4 holes it is 4! right?
actually, 8 unique slots = 8! permutations = 40320 permutations
 
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Bogdan_TT

Professional
I totally understand the guys that are siding with Paul, but I was looking at this from an impartial, purely business perspective. The facts are that many people in this thread were saying they weren't getting a response from Angell or that it was taking too long to get a response. Some say it's true and some say it's not true. Paul should be glad that people are so anxious to have their questions answered that they are getting upset with not hearing back fast enough. In this electronic age, people expect quick and almost immediate responses. If Paul thinks this is not an issue, then that's up to him to decide. The other question is, that we here are just a small sampling of the tennis racquet buying universe. Who knows how many other possible buyers turned away from Angell due to lack of responses or for other unknown reasons. If Paul is happy with his sales numbers and doesn't think there is a need to change anything, than that's the end of it. Without more facts, there is no way for us to know if this is an issue.
Yes, internet really bummed everything out.... I remember an old IBMer telling us that in his time they would have send a proposal by mail (not email) and then one month later receive an answer. And that those were the good days. For me and my teams, in the past 15 years, it was several proposal iterations per hour... Things changed, that's for sure :)
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Out of interest, what specs were you enquiring about? I apologise if your email was not replied to, or the web contact form failed to deliver the email to us.
No worries! I know stuff happens

Long story but i use a 5 1/4 handle that adds about 40g building up from 4 3/8. This limits the racket choices i have to light head heavy sticks (which are still hard to find)

This is the best i could find:

Head Size:110 sq. in. / 709.68 sq. cm.
Length:27.25in / 69.22cm
Strung Weight:8.4oz / 238.14g
Balance:15 pts HH
Swingweight:314
Stiffness:70
Beam Width:25mm / 26.5mm / 26mm /
Composition:Basalt
Power Level:Medium-High
Stroke Style:Medium-Full
Swing Speed:Slow-Moderate
Racquet Colors:Blue/ White/ Red/ Gray
Grip Type:Wilson Comfort Hybrid
String Pattern:16 Mains / 20 Crosses
Mains skip: 7T 9T 7H 9H
One Piece
No Shared Holes
String Tension:55-65 pounds

BUT its a 110". Its insanely powerful. I was wondering if you coukd make it in a 100".

Or if you could make a racket to my modded specs which are basically the above weighted up to 357g and a sw over 400 and with a large handle and 4pts hl.

I just figured it was too much to ask and when i got no reply i just moved on and have considered moving my racket paramaters to heavier sticks as I can play with sticks in the 380g + range.

Anyhow its not a big deal on my end.

Thanks.
 

Bogdan_TT

Professional
No worries! I know stuff happens

Long story but i use a 5 1/4 handle that adds about 40g building up from 4 3/8. This limits the racket choices i have to light head heavy sticks (which are still hard to find)

This is the best i could find:

Head Size:110 sq. in. / 709.68 sq. cm.
Length:27.25in / 69.22cm
Strung Weight:8.4oz / 238.14g
Balance:15 pts HH
Swingweight:314
Stiffness:70
Beam Width:25mm / 26.5mm / 26mm /
Composition:Basalt
Power Level:Medium-High
Stroke Style:Medium-Full
Swing Speed:Slow-Moderate
Racquet Colors:Blue/ White/ Red/ Gray
Grip Type:Wilson Comfort Hybrid
String Pattern:16 Mains / 20 Crosses
Mains skip: 7T 9T 7H 9H
One Piece
No Shared Holes
String Tension:55-65 pounds

BUT its a 110". Its insanely powerful. I was wondering if you coukd make it in a 100".

Or if you could make a racket to my modded specs which are basically the above weighted up to 357g and a sw over 400 and with a large handle and 4pts hl.

I just figured it was too much to ask and when i got no reply i just moved on and have considered moving my racket paramaters to heavier sticks as I can play with sticks in the 380g + range.

Anyhow its not a big deal on my end.

Thanks.
o_O how big are you?! :confused:
 

JohnBPittsburgh

Hall of Fame
I wasn't choosing sides or anything...lol, I am a Prince distributor!! I was just sharing my experience, and saying thank you (It seems negative feedback is the only feedback that is usually left at businesses, I try to stray from the norm, and go rogue) :) Good luck, no matter what you are swinging, and enjoy this awesome sport!!!
 
I just had to order it. I was very curious for a long time about it. Some people compare them to PT57A, which I'm sure it's not the case but still, I had to do it.

On the other hand, owning 9 Angell racquets, while 3 of them are my mains, I think I have an idea about the quality of the frame.

The funny thing with the TC95 is that, if you hit with it for a while (like more than a week) you'll say that yeah, it's ok, a good frame, but nothing special.
The problem rises when you want to change back to whatever you were hitting with before... and suddenly it's not right anymore.
You miss the Angell from your hand. Very hard to explain, but the bloody frame grows on you! :)

As for communication, there are customers and customers. Patient ones and guys filled with urges that need to be scratched immediately. It's a challenge to run a business, and so far Paul is doing a great job about it. The best way for me to describe it is to wish my own business to have the same success.

One trick about it is to have the customer poked from time to time with a short message, even if it's "dude, we are still working on your question, you were not forgotten... please be patient", so that he knows that he was not forgotten and that he will receive an answer, ever if it takes longer to respond. Keeping the less patient customers warm is key :)

But, as I said, I truly believe that the Angell offer is the most serious on the market right now, with excellent quality (better than every major company like Wilson, Head even Yonex as retail racquets) at great prices!

But... TC97 18x20 under 60RA? Paul? :) We want our Angell PT57A :)
extremely good points... in the end having that quality consistent product is his strength. They arent magic sticks but they are exceedingly competent and give me what im looking for... which is dependable pro-grade excellence that respects my needs as a player not some marketing scheme.
 

Racketdesign

Semi-Pro
No worries! I know stuff happens

Long story but i use a 5 1/4 handle that adds about 40g building up from 4 3/8. This limits the racket choices i have to light head heavy sticks (which are still hard to find)

This is the best i could find:

Head Size:110 sq. in. / 709.68 sq. cm.
Length:27.25in / 69.22cm
Strung Weight:8.4oz / 238.14g
Balance:15 pts HH
Swingweight:314
Stiffness:70
Beam Width:25mm / 26.5mm / 26mm /
Composition:Basalt
Power Level:Medium-High
Stroke Style:Medium-Full
Swing Speed:Slow-Moderate
Racquet Colors:Blue/ White/ Red/ Gray
Grip Type:Wilson Comfort Hybrid
String Pattern:16 Mains / 20 Crosses
Mains skip: 7T 9T 7H 9H
One Piece
No Shared Holes
String Tension:55-65 pounds

BUT its a 110". Its insanely powerful. I was wondering if you coukd make it in a 100".

Or if you could make a racket to my modded specs which are basically the above weighted up to 357g and a sw over 400 and with a large handle and 4pts hl.

I just figured it was too much to ask and when i got no reply i just moved on and have considered moving my racket paramaters to heavier sticks as I can play with sticks in the 380g + range.

Anyhow its not a big deal on my end.

Thanks.
290g/2 PTs HL option will become 330/9 PTs HL after your handle mod.

Were you looking to match the string pattern and beam widths of the frame you listed?
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
290g/2 PTs HL option will become 330/9 PTs HL after your handle mod.

Were you looking to match the string pattern and beam widths of the frame you listed?
Not so much in the beam widths. Pattern is ok at 16x19

I find the stiffness more important that either if them. Though i think there is some correlation between beam width and stiffness

I like a higher sw and would probably end up adding 20-30g to the hoop. It would be nice to just be able to buy a frame and not have to deal with lead but i dont think its likeley.

Anyhow thanks
 

808

Semi-Pro
Actually. If you want an Angell frame its a very quick and painless process of placing an order online and have the racket arrive in about 7 days time. If before placing the order you want to ask the owner some in depth questions about construction, materials, comparisons to other rackets from the last 20 years, spec options outside of what's offered or his personal opinion about what would suit your game based on 1000 word descriptions or videos etc etc.. then yes, it may require some patience for a few days for a worthwhile reply.
Hey, my email regarding the bags only had 935 words. I just checked! ;)
 
Im holding out for the octa-core which should be twice as good, Heh!

Which illustrates my point, why constantly update and twiddle. Get it right and go with it. I liked the original X series as they had a personality and something different. Now one cant be sure what they might replace things with. Perhaps Paul has had the time to test out and perfect the TC97 18x20 and offer them in a sub 60 RA too? But it makes sense o only release it when it is right. Remember he's doing all the R&D too.
 

Bogdan_TT

Professional
Im holding out for the octa-core which should be twice as good, Heh!

Which illustrates my point, why constantly update and twiddle. Get it right and go with it. I liked the original X series as they had a personality and something different. Now one cant be sure what they might replace things with. Perhaps Paul has had the time to test out and perfect the TC97 18x20 and offer them in a sub 60 RA too? But it makes sense o only release it when it is right. Remember he's doing all the R&D too.
Man, that would be the dream... Paul making a box beam, 58RA or under, 18x20, 95 to 98 head size, low weight quality racquet, for us to purchase and go nuts with any config we would like. There is a difference in feel between the D section and box beam. I tend to like the box beam... My PS85s are the most wonderful sticks ever created in terms of feel. For now it looks like only the TC95 fills in the spot.
 
Man, that would be the dream... Paul making a box beam, 58RA or under, 18x20, 95 to 98 head size, low weight quality racquet, for us to purchase and go nuts with any config we would like. There is a difference in feel between the D section and box beam. I tend to like the box beam... My PS85s are the most wonderful sticks ever created in terms of feel. For now it looks like only the TC95 fills in the spot.
I always found the PS85 to be too stiff for my tastes but man I love hitting those Edberg on the run backhand winners with them... I'm into the TC95 D beam honestly... more dampened and maybe faster though the air? The TC95 reminds me a lil of my youngest brother's max impact plus 95... a bit more solid and pinpoint though and lower powered. Way more spin...
 

morten

Hall of Fame
I just had to order it. I was very curious for a long time about it. Some people compare them to PT57A, which I'm sure it's not the case but still, I had to do it.

On the other hand, owning 9 Angell racquets, while 3 of them are my mains, I think I have an idea about the quality of the frame.

The funny thing with the TC95 is that, if you hit with it for a while (like more than a week) you'll say that yeah, it's ok, a good frame, but nothing special.
The problem rises when you want to change back to whatever you were hitting with before... and suddenly it's not right anymore.
You miss the Angell from your hand. Very hard to explain, but the bloody frame grows on you! :)

As for communication, there are customers and customers. Patient ones and guys filled with urges that need to be scratched immediately. It's a challenge to run a business, and so far Paul is doing a great job about it. The best way for me to describe it is to wish my own business to have the same success.

One trick about it is to have the customer poked from time to time with a short message, even if it's "dude, we are still working on your question, you were not forgotten... please be patient", so that he knows that he was not forgotten and that he will receive an answer, ever if it takes longer to respond. Keeping the less patient customers warm is key :)

But, as I said, I truly believe that the Angell offer is the most serious on the market right now, with excellent quality (better than every major company like Wilson, Head even Yonex as retail racquets) at great prices!

But... TC97 18x20 under 60RA? Paul? :) We want our Angell PT57A :)
I hope my tc95 18/20 feels better, because its pretty average the two times i have played with it. Its the heaviest most headlight version. A bit flimsy, dont feel the sweetspot enough, and just not sweet....
 
I hope my tc95 18/20 feels better, because its pretty average the two times i have played with it. Its the heaviest most headlight version. A bit flimsy, dont feel the sweetspot enough, and just not sweet....
hmm doesnt sound like the same experiences ive had. What is your string setup?
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
I hope my tc95 18/20 feels better, because its pretty average the two times i have played with it. Its the heaviest most headlight version. A bit flimsy, dont feel the sweetspot enough, and just not sweet....
What tension did you string your TC95? Maybe you have better results with a lower tension.

I also use a Vantage 95 (18x20 - 330grams - 12pts HL - 63RA). I remembered that the first period with the TC95 wasn't spectacular as well and that's why I left my Vantage into the bag for 6 years. Since a few months I am using my Vantage with an extra 3 grams at 12 that made the difference. After that I measured the balance and I came to the conclusion that it might be too highlight before.
Maybe you can try this as well.

Last month I purchased a TC95 18x20 as a backup for my Vantage 95 that plays great in stock form with a 31,5 cm balance and a total weight of 352 grams (where my Vantage has a total weight of 357 grams with a 31,4cm balance). My TC95 have been strung with MSV Focus HEX 1.10mm and 24/23 kg and my Vantage at 22/21 kg (that is bit too lively to my taste).
 

morten

Hall of Fame
I may try some lead at 12 yeah... prince premier control at 48 lbs so it should be low enough.. i chose the 70ra.. maybe that was wrong... ?
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
I may try some lead at 12 yeah... prince premier control at 48 lbs so it should be low enough.. i chose the 70ra.. maybe that was wrong... ?
Yes, probably that is the reason as the swingweight of the 63RA frames is a lot higher than the 70RA ones because of a complexer construction process.
 

teekaywhy

Professional
I hope my tc95 18/20 feels better, because its pretty average the two times i have played with it. Its the heaviest most headlight version. A bit flimsy, dont feel the sweetspot enough, and just not sweet....
maybe you need lighter more head heavy.
Clarify what you mean by flimsy?
 

morten

Hall of Fame
Thanks. Flimsy as in it does not cradle the ball so to speak. . Not really unstable just can not feel the ball sink in . I love heavy hl frames so specs are good.. sw is 296 unstrung so it is not too low either.. might help with one or two grams of lead around the hoop...
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
Yes, probably that is the reason as the swingweight of the 63RA frames is a lot higher than the 70RA ones because of a complexer construction process.
Thanks. Flimsy as in it does not cradle the ball so to speak. . Not really unstable just can not feel the ball sink in . I love heavy hl frames so specs are good.. sw is 296 unstrung so it is not too low either.. might help with one or two grams of lead around the hoop...
Swingweight of my TC95 63RA is 310 unstrung.
 

pitsquared

Rookie
What tension did you string your TC95? Maybe you have better results with a lower tension.

I also use a Vantage 95 (18x20 - 330grams - 12pts HL - 63RA). I remembered that the first period with the TC95 wasn't spectacular as well and that's why I left my Vantage into the bag for 6 years. Since a few months I am using my Vantage with an extra 3 grams at 12 that made the difference. After that I measured the balance and I came to the conclusion that it might be too highlight before.
Maybe you can try this as well.

Last month I purchased a TC95 18x20 as a backup for my Vantage 95 that plays great in stock form with a 31,5 cm balance and a total weight of 352 grams (where my Vantage has a total weight of 357 grams with a 31,4cm balance). My TC95 have been strung with MSV Focus HEX 1.10mm and 24/23 kg and my Vantage at 22/21 kg (that is bit too lively to my taste).
Do you know the SW of your stock TC95 as well as your Vantage 95 with lead? I'm gonna pull the trigger on a TC95 to possibly replace my H22. I'm debating between the 330g/31 cm and the 330/31.5 cm options. My preferred SW is 345-350 and preferred balance is 6-8 pts HL and I may have to add some weight as well to achieve that but I'm not sure how adding weight will affect the balance. I'm waiting on a response from Paul as well but hopefully someone can chime in.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
Do you know the SW of your stock TC95 as well as your Vantage 95 with lead? I'm gonna pull the trigger on a TC95 to possibly replace my H22. I'm debating between the 330g/31 cm and the 330/31.5 cm options. My preferred SW is 345-350 and preferred balance is 6-8 pts HL and I may have to add some weight as well to achieve that but I'm not sure how adding weight will affect the balance. I'm waiting on a response from Paul as well but hopefully someone can chime in.
Unfortunately I don't know the swingweights strung but during the ordering process of my TC95 I asked Paul and he estimated a swingweight of about 310 unstrung. So it 'll be about 335-340 strung as strings usually increase the swingweight with 25-30 points.

Here you can determine how much weight and at what location weight you need to add in order to achieve your desired specs.
 

pitsquared

Rookie
Unfortunately I don't know the swingweights strung but during the ordering process of my TC95 I asked Paul and he estimated a swingweight of about 310 unstrung. So it 'll be about 335-340 strung as strings usually increase the swingweight with 25-30 points.

Here you can determine how much weight and at what location weight you need to add in order to achieve your desired specs.
May I ask what was so unspectacular about it when you first tried it? Was it not powerful or stable enough before the extra lead? Some ppl are saying that its not as stable and powerful as they had hoped and some are saying the contrary. Maybe I should go with the 320g version to leave more room for my own customization.
 

jhusein

Rookie
I have 2 NEW TC97 (plastic on handle). PM me if interested.
Weight / Balance: 320g(11.4oz) / 310mm(10ptsHL)
Grip L3-B ( Leather ).
I also have 2 new L4 Pallets (A) and 2 extra grommet sets.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
May I ask what was so unspectacular about it when you first tried it? Was it not powerful or stable enough before the extra lead? Some ppl are saying that its not as stable and powerful as they had hoped and some are saying the contrary. Maybe I should go with the 320g version to leave more room for my own customization.
I think I was still too much used to the Tecnifibre TFight 335 16x20 that was my regular frame 6 years ago and I didn't give the Vantage enough time then. Last 3 years I played with Völkl C10 Pro and since a few months I tried my Vantage again and I noticed a big improvement after I put some weight at 12. Especially my backhand improved a lot. Maybe this is because of the lower balance of the Vantage vs the C10 Pro (31,4cm vs 32cm). My team mates noticed this as well and they keep complimenting me with What a backhand! and Beautiful backhand!

You have been rewarded with a full and solid feel when you hit the ball clean.

BTW You can order the heaviest with the lowest HL option (330g and 12pts HL) as you'll have all lead blocks into the handle. Then you can change the positions of the blocks easily when you want to change the balance. Into this thread you can find a picture of the handle with holes where the lead blocks are located.
 
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Surion

Hall of Fame
So, I hope my questing isn't too provoking, but since I'm kind of a racketaholic, I am intrigued to try an Angell.
So, do normal club players (3.5-4.0) really notice any difference between an Angell and for example a Pro Staff 97S?

I am a 4.0 with the 97S, which feels really good, but I wonder, if I could notice a difference.

Thanks in advance.
 

JohnBPittsburgh

Hall of Fame
I can say I did. But, I think that is a very subjective question. 12 months prior, I wouldn't have noticed a difference. I thought all frames felt the same. Even now, I have a better developed sense of feel than I did a few months ago. I can hand my mom a classic Prestige, a Tecnifibre LTD, An O3 White, and a Walmart racquet, and she won't notice a difference, as she doesn't play everyday. So, this may sound like a vague answer, but IMO, you really have to try them. I thought JackB1 was going to LOVE the TC-100, and it turned out, he didn't. I thought Racketeer and BackhandedCompliment would LOVE their TC-95's, and I was correct!!! So, I am 2 for 3 :) I am unfamiliar with the 97s, or I would be able to venture a guess as to if you would feel a difference (and unfamiliar with your playing style as well!) Hope this makes sense!!!
 

Surion

Hall of Fame
I can say I did. But, I think that is a very subjective question. 12 months prior, I wouldn't have noticed a difference. I thought all frames felt the same. Even now, I have a better developed sense of feel than I did a few months ago. I can hand my mom a classic Prestige, a Tecnifibre LTD, An O3 White, and a Walmart racquet, and she won't notice a difference, as she doesn't play everyday. So, this may sound like a vague answer, but IMO, you really have to try them. I thought JackB1 was going to LOVE the TC-100, and it turned out, he didn't. I thought Racketeer and BackhandedCompliment would LOVE their TC-95's, and I was correct!!! So, I am 2 for 3 :) I am unfamiliar with the 97s, or I would be able to venture a guess as to if you would feel a difference (and unfamiliar with your playing style as well!) Hope this makes sense!!!
Yea, it definitely makes sense, thank you for your response.

Still hesitant, because it would cost 220 euro in total... Pretty much for a poor student :)
 

JohnBPittsburgh

Hall of Fame
Lol, totally understand!! They pop up used, and if you are skilled or patient and willing to learn, you can customize them to whatever you want them to be. But you will still be able to play and enjoy tennis with a PS97s!!! I have fallen victim to "I wonder if that frame is better" and it is a costly experiment. What I took away from it:
once brought up to spec, almost all racquets feel the same. :) (It's still fun to hit with other frames, but there isn't one made that will replace practice and court time)
Good luck on your quest and in school!!
 

7zero

Semi-Pro
I customized my first TC97 from 352g to 327g (all inclusive) and got balance of 325mm. Two lead weight out of four possible in bottom holes. BTW there were two different types of lead weight in it: 10g and 14g. Nobody mentioned here - so if it helps anyone it gives more tuning options when seeking right balance. I am not sure if my balance is standard like being from Angell if bought new but after one hour of hitting I can really feel the difference to my O-ported racquets. Will test it further.
 

sma1001

Hall of Fame
So, I hope my questing isn't too provoking, but since I'm kind of a racketaholic, I am intrigued to try an Angell.
So, do normal club players (3.5-4.0) really notice any difference between an Angell and for example a Pro Staff 97S?

I am a 4.0 with the 97S, which feels really good, but I wonder, if I could notice a difference.

Thanks in advance.
I suppose another question might be: if (and when) you feel the difference, will you like it? Only by playing with the racquet will you know.

The other aspect is strings: in my experience some racquets suit a certain string set up better than others. If you are particular about your strings, sometimes the quest is for the racquet that suits them best. And then there's tension...

PS: If the PS97S is very good, why change? Ok, coming from me that's quite a ridiculous question. And one i most certainly do not want posed to me in reverse.
 

Surion

Hall of Fame
I suppose another question might be: if (and when) you feel the difference, will you like it? Only by playing with the racquet will you know.

The other aspect is strings: in my experience some racquets suit a certain string set up better than others. If you are particular about your strings, sometimes the quest is for the racquet that suits them best. And then there's tension...

PS: If the PS97S is very good, why change? Ok, coming from me that's quite a ridiculous question. And one i most certainly do not want posed to me in reverse.

Well, I tested like 25 racquets in the last two years, but maybe there is no racquet, that does everything well for me...or it's me, who knows.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
So, I hope my questing isn't too provoking, but since I'm kind of a racketaholic, I am intrigued to try an Angell.
So, do normal club players (3.5-4.0) really notice any difference between an Angell and for example a Pro Staff 97S?

I am a 4.0 with the 97S, which feels really good, but I wonder, if I could notice a difference.

Thanks in advance.
At the end of the day, they are just racquets. The #1 draw of the Angell racquets are for you to get a custom racquet with your preferred specs. If you can't find a stock racquet with the specs you like, then consider an Angell. There is nothing magical about them. The unique thing about them is that they are foam filled...like Donnay's. This gives them a "different" feel than a Wilson or a Head. "Different" doesn't mean better...it's all about what you like personally. The fact that you like the 97S means you like high swingweight, thin beam racquets, which means you would probably like the TC95 or TC97. But also remember Angell doesn't have a "spin effect" racquet like you Wilson...no 18x19 patterns.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
I can say I did. But, I think that is a very subjective question. 12 months prior, I wouldn't have noticed a difference. I thought all frames felt the same. Even now, I have a better developed sense of feel than I did a few months ago. I can hand my mom a classic Prestige, a Tecnifibre LTD, An O3 White, and a Walmart racquet, and she won't notice a difference, as she doesn't play everyday. So, this may sound like a vague answer, but IMO, you really have to try them. I thought JackB1 was going to LOVE the TC-100, and it turned out, he didn't. I thought Racketeer and BackhandedCompliment would LOVE their TC-95's, and I was correct!!! So, I am 2 for 3 :) I am unfamiliar with the 97s, or I would be able to venture a guess as to if you would feel a difference (and unfamiliar with your playing style as well!) Hope this makes sense!!!
The TC100 just wasn't great for my playing style, but it wasn't because it was a bad racquet. The paint quality and finnish on the Angell's is top notch. My issues were with the string pattern and the balance/swingweight, but I bought mine used so it was someone else's specs...not mine. The 16x19 pattern on the TC100 was very open which was great for hitting spinny, loopy shots, but made it tough to drive flat shots and keeping slices low and biting. The balance was almost even without adding weight, which made the racquet feel awkward and clubby to me. I also wasn't crazy about the feel. It wasn't horrible, but I have to be honest and I tried a Donnay Pro One 97 side by side with the Angell and I thought the Donnay felt more solid and just better to me.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Well, I tested like 25 racquets in the last two years, but maybe there is no racquet, that does everything well for me...or it's me, who knows.
The "doing" part is up to you. Best advice is to find a swingweight you like and then find a racquet that fits your playing style the best. It can take a while to figure this out though. For example, if you stay behind the baseline and like to hit heavy topspin with fast swings, than a open patterned whippy racquet will suit you. If you like to swing slower and hit a variety of shots, then you need an all court type of racquet that's heavier.
 

dblsplayer

Rookie
WOW! just received my TC 100 yesterday. Wow! is because it shipped the day before; so 24 hours from the UK to SoCal. That's impressive.

A very nice looking racquet too. Having it strung up and looking forward to trying it out. Selected the 300/325 model with B grip. Weight and balance feels similar to my Blade 98's so that's a good start.
 

Surion

Hall of Fame
The "doing" part is up to you. Best advice is to find a swingweight you like and then find a racquet that fits your playing style the best. It can take a while to figure this out though. For example, if you stay behind the baseline and like to hit heavy topspin with fast swings, than a open patterned whippy racquet will suit you. If you like to swing slower and hit a variety of shots, then you need an all court type of racquet that's heavier.
Yea, I guess you're right. I'll probably stick with the 97S, since 220 € are just too much.
Thank you.
 
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