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ed70

Semi-Pro
Just noticed my new K7’s been signed for, going to pop some Halo 1 in tonight been meaning to try it for a while, has this string got good tension maintenance?
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I tired Halo2 in K7 which played great until it went off a cliff and just died. I don’t play with multi so not sure why i have a couple of packs of Halo 1 so let us know how it goes
 
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ed70

Semi-Pro
Thanks will let you know how I get on with it. I’m pretty set on scorpion for when all my match’s start mid April, but always like to test the water, also have a pack of halo 3 that I may hybrid with scorpion or some silverstring I have left over.
 

10sGearHead

New User
I've got some Halo 1 and 2 to try in my K7 Red. What tension should I try? I assume it's on the softer end like a polyfibre? I tried a hybrid with VS Gut (main) and Solinco Tour Bite soft at 56/53 lbs and that was a little too lively, though it felt like butter. Will probably try that at higher tensions, but obviously very expensive and I broke it much faster than with my PureStrike. I tried Cyclone Tour at 56lbs and that was definitely too high, but started to loosen up a little. Let me know what you guys think. I kinda like tension a tad bit higher than middle. I also asked Paul, but haven't heard back. Thanks!
 

beltsman

Legend
Thanks haven't hit with my Angells in a long time. I might give them another spin when the weather is nice, with new string jobs. Element/origin or cream/origin. Versus the Hyper-G full bed I've been using.

I left my Angells because I wanted more power.
 

stephenclown

Professional
I tried the Angell L5 grip and I am in love. Wow did that do wonders to my backhand, I seemed to hit them all yesterday. Might I have been playing with a too small grip all this time?
Possible yes. Larger grip will inherently give more stability and limit wrist action through the stroke. If it is that mich different in a good way stick with it. The stability may impact flicks and running shots across court but overall it should be good with your initial imptession. Smaller grip sizes can cause lots of issues with consistency and stability if technique isnt technically sound.

Glad you found something that helps in your game, keep practicing! My backhand has improved in the opposite direction, everyone is different :) the ability to get over balls on clay courts has had a huge impact for me :)
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
I did not enjoy the rough version of PL II but read they play different so please update how that goes with TC100
I bought a reel of 1.25 black Pro Line II - 20% off all Kirschbaum strings at Stringersworld - so the testing will truly be extensive.
 

Tennisist

Rookie
Very interesting revelation today for me (no pun intended. Keep reading, you guys will know what I am talking about).

I was not supposed to play tennis today as hitting buddy was out of town. Was working out at the gym when saw a new guy hitting very well with an elderly gentleman over on the courts area. I asked if he was up for a hit. Long story short, I went back to the car and brought back my spare backpack I keep in my car that has a TC100 and a back up racquet (Dunlop Pro Classic Revelation). Snapped the mains of my TC100 within 5 mins and was only left with the Dunlop which even I'm not sure why I have. It's specs are completely out of my wheelhouse and I would have never thought about using it as my main ever. I guess just one of those racquets you keep for the sake of keeping.

Anyway, the Dunlop is 365g. It is about 6.5 points HL and has a swingweight of 348 so not an easy weapon to wield. It was freshly strung just two days back with poly (tension was 42lbs as I wasn't sure with its 95 sq head) just because I wanted to practice my stringing. I threw it in my backpack thinking I would never use it anyway. And oh boy. Let me tell you. That thing kicked some behind today. Relaxed strokes, with good core movement and I was hitting some shots that even surprised me. The 95 sq inch head size was centering the ball like a bulls eye and the reward was deep heavy ball that kicked and jumped up like an on-fire Kobe.

My usual specs these days are 332g and swingweight near 335. I used to play with 345-348g weighted up sticks in college and have been fluctuating with specs but never that high. By the end of the set I could feel the heaviness of the racquet because obviously jumping 30-35g in weight is considerable and will take getting used. But wow. Serves were on target, groundstrokes on fire (backhand, forehand, you name it). Felt so damn solid that mishits would land in looping like regular groundstrokes do. No buzzing, no shaking etc. It played superb. Did not see that coming from an old Dunlop which was lying around collecting dust. I am sure the previous owner must have tinkered with customizing it. But my first outing today was absolutely rock solid.

I know @saleem you have one of the same Dunlops as we chatted about it briefly. And I know @Backhanded Compliment has played with some older Dunlops as well. And from reading the posts on TC95, it sounds like my experience was very similar to the TC95. Can you guys (and anyone else who has played with old school Dunlops) tell me how similar they are to the TC95 weighted up to these similar specs? Also, didn't Paul Angell work with Dunlop and design older Dunlops at some time?

Thanks.

P.S: racquet in question
So, why are you selling this Dunlop now? It's only been 2 days since you wrote how wonderful it is...
 

haqq777

Legend
So, why are you selling this Dunlop now? It's only been 2 days since you wrote how wonderful it is...
First, its been over 10 days. Second, selling it for reasons people sell things. And if you must know, I purchased two more from fleabay. Realised did not need that many as I have way too many racquets. It is absolutely a wonderful stick, not taking anything away.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
First, its been over 10 days. Second, selling it for reasons people sell things. And if you must know, I purchased two more from fleabay. Realised did not need that many as I have way too many racquets. It is absolutely a wonderful stick, not taking anything away.
In case you were not aware, there is a mandatory minimum 20 days to sell your racquet from the time you give it a positive review. Please kindly adhere to these unheard of arcane rules :D
 

haqq777

Legend
In case you were not aware, there is a mandatory minimum 20 days to sell your racquet from the time you give it a positive review. Please kindly adhere to these unheard of arcane rules :D
Yes sir! :D - btw hows your beautiful Dunlop playing? You and I got our Dunlop fix at roughly the same time I remember. Any particular tension you like yours at? And strings? I have only been playing with low tension full polys so far. Might try hybriding soon.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Yes sir! :D - btw hows your beautiful Dunlop playing? You and I got our Dunlop fix at roughly the same time I remember. Any particular tension you like yours at? And strings? I have only been playing with low tension full polys so far. Might try hybriding soon.
All I know of my Dunlop so far is it’s weight, balance and it’s in nice shape! I’m having a bad Tennis week and was supposed to hit Tuesday and Thursday and could not. Hitting early tomorrow morning so will be trying stock K7 and the Dunlop which will be a contrast in weight. Dunlop came strung with sensation and it looks in good shape so will try it I’m sure will go to poly pretty soon
 

haqq777

Legend
So I hit with my Pure Control Swirlys yesterday evening and this morning. Hit a big ball, serves are on dot, groundstrokes are ridiculous. But in the end, even though I played with Babolats for over a decade all through H.S and college, I just can't get over how they feel now. The solid feedback just isn't there and these Babs are the most beastly Bab racquets I have ever played with.

I couldn't get over the tuning fork sort of feedback. Had to play around with multiple dampeners to mute it out but it wasn't just that. I usually don't use a vibration dampener but had to with Babolats. Made it a little better but they felt hollow. Both racquets were giving the exact same feel with one being strung at 50lbs and other at 48lbs. Cyclone Tour in both. Played great, as I mentioned above. But wasn't 100% satisfied.

Suffice to say I have been spoiled by the foam filled Angells and type of feedback they give. As they say, once you have tasted fruit from garden of Eden, well, no going back after that I tell you!
 

Faris

Professional
So I hit with my Pure Control Swirlys yesterday evening and this morning. Hit a big ball, serves are on dot, groundstrokes are ridiculous. But in the end, even though I played with Babolats for over a decade all through H.S and college, I just can't get over how they feel now. The solid feedback just isn't there and these Babs are the most beastly Bab racquets I have ever played with.

I couldn't get over the tuning fork sort of feedback. Had to play around with multiple dampeners to mute it out but it wasn't just that. I usually don't use a vibration dampener but had to with Babolats. Made it a little better but they felt hollow. Both racquets were giving the exact same feel with one being strung at 50lbs and other at 48lbs. Cyclone Tour in both. Played great, as I mentioned above. But wasn't 100% satisfied.

Suffice to say I have been spoiled by the foam filled Angells and type of feedback they give. As they say, once you have tasted fruit from garden of Eden, well, no going back after that I tell you!
yeah those swirly pure controls are a beast man! Ones you have are from 2001?
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I hit this morning with my new K7 which isn’t modded yet. Ok, I got it out of my system to try K7 stock and it certainly needs some weight and stability. My first K7 i modded by adding an Oehms leather grip and 4.5gm Tungsten @12. On this 2nd, I am changing my mod and will compare. I will add 6gm split between 3 and 9 and add Tungsten putty in a cotton ball under the butt cap to keep balance the same.
 
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topspn

Hall of Fame
are your 2 k7 frames from different batches nad do they feel the same (someone mentioned that the first batch was more flexible etc.) ?
My first racquet came from the first batch and my 2nd came from batch 3 it looks like. I did not feel a difference in flex, but my 2nd was about 2mm more head heavy.
 

haqq777

Legend
My first racquet came from the first batch and my 2nd came from batch 3 it looks like. I did not feel a difference in flex, but my 2nd was about 2mm more head heavy.
I know you like around 5-6 points balance so it seems your second one worked out well for you (balance-wise). Will be interesting to see how you feel racquet plays after different lead placement.
 

ace18

Professional
that's why it's a general statement directed towards the many fanbois of the tc-line ;)

it's just a bit of fun. whatever works for you guys. Roddick would still beat 90% of posters with a frying pan.
You should stick to posting on threads where people actually care what you have to say. Who cares if Roddick can beat 90% of posters with a frying pan, this has no relevance to anything. This is just a bit of fun!!
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I know you like around 5-6 points balance so it seems your second one worked out well for you (balance-wise). Will be interesting to see how you feel racquet plays after different lead placement.
I just added 2 strips 8 inches each to 3&9 and it put me at 331gm and 33.5cms or 2 HL. Just need to buy some cotton balls to stuff tungsten putty in and will tall weight to 32.5cms or 6HL. Very curious myself how the two mods will compare for me. Both ways do put me around 330SW.
 

haqq777

Legend
I just added 2 strips 8 inches each to 3&9 and it put me at 331gm and 33.5cms or 2 HL. Just need to buy some cotton balls to stuff tungsten putty in and will tall weight to 32.5cms or 6HL. Very curious myself how the two mods will compare for me. Both ways do put me around 330SW.
Seems you will have more torsional stability with second one albeit with less maneuverability. I think 330SW will hit a good ball either way! I dont know how K7 plays but unless stick really needs it I personally avoid 3 & 9 lead placement. Makes it sluggish for me a bit. Just a personal preference really.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Seems you will have more torsional stability with second one albeit with less maneuverability. I think 330SW will hit a good ball either way! I dont know how K7 plays but unless stick really needs it I personally avoid 3 & 9 lead placement. Makes it sluggish for me a bit. Just a personal preference really.
Correct, I would never try it on my TC100s as it would slow it down to much. The K7 is very quick so I will try it and see how it goes comparing to adding SW with weight @12. Speaking of TC100s, my 2 TC100s are being delivered today all adjusted to match and 32.5cm bal :)
 

haqq777

Legend
Correct, I would never try it on my TC100s as it would slow it down to much. The K7 is very quick so I will try it and see how it goes comparing to adding SW with weight @12. Speaking of TC100s, my 2 TC100s are being delivered today all adjusted to match and 32.5cm bal :)
Awesome! Thor's hammers will be back after some fine tuning :)
 

esprits4s

New User
Correct, I would never try it on my TC100s as it would slow it down to much. The K7 is very quick so I will try it and see how it goes comparing to adding SW with weight @12. Speaking of TC100s, my 2 TC100s are being delivered today all adjusted to match and 32.5cm bal :)
I am curious to hear your feedback on this. I'm enjoying hitting with my K7, but I'm not ready to switch to it fully yet. It is very comfortable and has good feel, better than my current racquet (DR98). However, it's kind of a strange combination of power and stability at the moment. Originally, I thought it was lower power than the DR98, but now I'm thinking that the sweet spot just might be smaller. I need to work on hitting the center of the racquet more often.:) However, I think it could benefit from some more heft.
 
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ed70

Semi-Pro
My first racquet came from the first batch and my 2nd came from batch 3 it looks like. I did not feel a difference in flex, but my 2nd was about 2mm more head heavy.
My 2nd K7 appears to be slightly more head heavy than first batch too. The grip size has now been sorted and my new frame is a shade darker red than first batch and is even more aesthetically pleasing. Decided to add a bit of weight to this one and have it at 323sw now & 328g strung. Has helped with that little bit of instability I found stock, and is still lightening quick to swing. Strung with halo 1 extremely comfortable set up, had a feeling it may move about a bit so happy I strung a few lbs higher as it plays nicely. Will hybrid the K7 next, have some halo 3 to try.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
My 2nd K7 appears to be slightly more head heavy than first batch too. The grip size has now been sorted and my new frame is a shade darker red than first batch and is even more aesthetically pleasing. Decided to add a bit of weight to this one and have it at 323sw now & 328g strung. Has helped with that little bit of instability I found stock, and is still lightening quick to swing. Strung with halo 1 extremely comfortable set up, had a feeling it may move about a bit so happy I strung a few lbs higher as it plays nicely. Will hybrid the K7 next, have some halo 3 to try.
Lol..you are so right! I guess i didn’t look at them side by side so didn’t notice. However, once you mentioned it, I pulled out my racquets and side by side easy to see. The new one is indeed a deeper darker red and does look even nicer!
 

Hansen

Semi-Pro
I'm enjoying hitting with my K7
how would you compare the k7 and the dr 98 in terms of spin potential and control.
the dr 98 is very spinfriendly and you always have to add a little spin to prevent flyers. is this also true for the k7, whose string pattern is very open.

It is very comfortable and has good feel, better than my current racquet (DR98)
does the k7 feels crisper than the dr98 or has it the same plush and muted feel ?
 

esprits4s

New User
how would you compare the k7 and the dr 98 in terms of spin potential and control.
the dr 98 is very spinfriendly and you always have to add a little spin to prevent flyers. is this also true for the k7, whose string pattern is very open.


does the k7 feels crisper than the dr98 or has it the same plush and muted feel ?
Spin potential seems similar to me. The K7 hits plush like the DR98, but I wouldn't call it muted at least in comparison to the Yonex. I would say the K7 has better feel. It is also easier to tell when you hit off center (which can be good or bad...).
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
So i got the cotton balls and did not need them after all. I found a new change in the K7!! I open the trap door and its filled with gel...surpirse :eek: the first one when i opened did not have foam or gel and was hollow.
 

stocchero

New User
So i got the cotton balls and did not need them after all. I found a new change in the K7!! I open the trap door and its filled with gel...surpirse :eek: the first one when i opened did not have foam or gel and was hollow.
Mine has a little silicone, and made a mess with the tungsten... I think the silicone is just the sufficient to do fine adjustment to the desired specs


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topspn

Hall of Fame
Mine has a little silicone, and made a mess with the tungsten... I think the silicone is just the sufficient to do fine adjustment to the desired specs


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What do you mean a little? Mine has silicone to the top of the handle. No mess, i flattened the amount of Tungsten putty i needed and put the cap back on, easy peasy.
 
So i got the cotton balls and did not need them after all. I found a new change in the K7!! I open the trap door and its filled with gel...surpirse :eek: the first one when i opened did not have foam or gel and was hollow.
Glad you said that. I just got my K7 on Tuesday and it has gel in the handle too.
 

stocchero

New User
What do you mean a little? Mine has silicone to the top of the handle. No mess, i flattened the amount of Tungsten putty i needed and put the cap back on, easy peasy.
Mine just a little gel on just one side, and I can see the end of it

I did the same, flattened the putty (16g) and put the trap door back

After 2 days, changed to leather grip, opened the trap door to remove 7 grams of tungsten, and the silicone was all messed with the tungsten...

I live in Brazil, and it is summer now, so probably you won’t have the same problem, but such was that I threw away the tungsten...


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PigPen

Semi-Pro
Just hit with my new K7 strung with NG / Cream today. The feel is incredible! To me the frame feels like a 20 year old red prestige or the old Yonex RX500. I am having some stability and twistweight problems though. Tried 4" of lead at 12 and a leather grip that helped somewhat (weight is now 11.7) , but still not close to the TC95.

I am determined to make this work though as the feel is absolutely sublime on this frame. Any suggestions as to lead placement would be appreciated.
 

stocchero

New User
Just hit with my new K7 strung with NG / Cream today. The feel is incredible! To me the frame feels like a 20 year old red prestige or the old Yonex RX500. I am having some stability and twistweight problems though. Tried 4" of lead at 12 and a leather grip that helped somewhat (weight is now 11.7) , but still not close to the TC95.

I am determined to make this work though as the feel is absolutely sublime on this frame. Any suggestions as to lead placement would be appreciated.
I have something similar (8 inches at twelve, leather grip and just the amount needed in the buttcap to make balance 323mm)

I am doing pretty good from the baseline and transition but really struggling in serves and volleys (smashes are fine)...

Want to make it work, so I think i will try 2 grams at 3/9 tomorrow... but I think it maybe has something to do with the elongated head... maybe should lower tension on the crosses to “round” the head?


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Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Just hit with my new K7 strung with NG / Cream today. The feel is incredible! To me the frame feels like a 20 year old red prestige or the old Yonex RX500. I am having some stability and twistweight problems though. Tried 4" of lead at 12 and a leather grip that helped somewhat (weight is now 11.7) , but still not close to the TC95.

I am determined to make this work though as the feel is absolutely sublime on this frame. Any suggestions as to lead placement would be appreciated.
If you feel you're having twistweight and stability problems, then adding some weight at the 3 & 9 o'clock positions will definitely help resolve this. Personally, I always balance that with a little weight 7" above butt cap (near the top of the handle).
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I have something similar (8 inches at twelve, leather grip and just the amount needed in the buttcap to make balance 323mm)

I am doing pretty good from the baseline and transition but really struggling in serves and volleys (smashes are fine)...

Want to make it work, so I think i will try 2 grams at 3/9 tomorrow... but I think it maybe has something to do with the elongated head... maybe should lower tension on the crosses to “round” the head?


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I'm not sure what your tensions are already... but with a more elongated head shape, I always keep the cross strings 2 lbs lower than mains (mine is usually around 52M/50C - depending on the racquet and its power level). If you want to increase stability, weight at 3&9 will definitely help.
 

RGT

Rookie
So i got the cotton balls and did not need them after all. I found a new change in the K7!! I open the trap door and its filled with gel...surpirse :eek: the first one when i opened did not have foam or gel and was hollow.
Oh wow! Do you notice a change in feel vs the ''old'' k7 because of the silicone?
 

RGT

Rookie
Just hit with my new K7 strung with NG / Cream today. The feel is incredible! To me the frame feels like a 20 year old red prestige or the old Yonex RX500. I am having some stability and twistweight problems though. Tried 4" of lead at 12 and a leather grip that helped somewhat (weight is now 11.7) , but still not close to the TC95.

I am determined to make this work though as the feel is absolutely sublime on this frame. Any suggestions as to lead placement would be appreciated.
Interesting to see that so many k7 users love the different feel of the k7 vs the tc line. Maybe a KevlarTC line would make a holy grail for some folks here? :)
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Oh wow! Do you notice a change in feel vs the ''old'' k7 because of the silicone?
It is hard to say because I was trying them at different weights and I didn’t play with the new one a lot. It was just too light. It also had diadem SP which feels plusher then the quadro twist on the other. I’ll certainly be looking out for that since I am pretty curious myself but would be good to have them both strung with same string for apples to apples compare.
 

stephenclown

Professional
It is hard to say because I was trying them at different weights and I didn’t play with the new one a lot. It was just too light. It also had diadem SP which feels plusher then the quadro twist on the other. I’ll certainly be looking out for that since I am pretty curious myself but would be good to have them both strung with same string for apples to apples compare.
How was the SP? Mine has extreme movement atm but dont want to waste money stringing until I buy a machine
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
How was the SP? Mine has extreme movement atm but dont want to waste money stringing until I buy a machine
Yeah, SP is great I have played with it before. I have modified that stick with weight now and should play my full session tomorrow with it. Comfort, good feel, heavy spin and power! Mine is still very fresh with just 10 mins hitting.
 
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