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yeah since going to the tc95 Ive become a more patient and fluid player... I can count on rally balls that "force" unforced errors at 75-80% power and Ive always clipped lines but somehow now I have a more relaxed swing. Its freer and more deceptive power and placement. In short I trust the effect of my stroke so much more with this frame and a full bed opf RSlyon at 45. It feels so nice.... maybe not the buttery-est but thecresultscare great. I gotta order more Rslyonfrom TW... Im due for an order of stuff.
Still pretty buttery, though, even with a full bed of RS Lyon. I've been trying different synthetic grips and lead here and there on the handle but have abandoned that experiment. I'm back to a heavy leather grip and a little lead at 3/9 and 5" strip of head tape. It's probably a little over 12oz and about 7-8pts. hl. (strung) I like Cyclone, and I like RS Lyon. Things are nearly settled, and yes I totally agree, 75-80% power level with this frame is all that's needed, maybe even advised.
 
Very nice. Did you feel a swingweight difference versus V2 or V1 as it was being suggested here (that V3 was lower swingweight)? I certainly felt V2 TC97 (18x20) and V3 TC97 (18x20) of same specs played absolutely identical. Very solid, very Angell-esque. Have not tried any other V3 in Angell lineup to comment.
Indeed, the measured SW is lower, however it doesn’t feel any whippier nor does it feel less potent or solid. So far, I think the power level is same for both TC95s just natural launch angle and precision. I was thinking of raising SW with weight @12 but didn’t feel the need after hitting today. It is actually odd that i didn’t feel the need to add SW. In fact, so far I don’t feel there is any playability difference i can attribute to V1, V2 or V3, just the string pattern of course.
 
Glad you like the TC95!

The TC95 18x20 63RA is my favourite Angell. First I felt I didn't the sweetspot as I was used to. So I tried a few lead setups (first with 4x1 inch long strips at 3 and 9 and after that another few grams at 10 and 2 that made it a little too beefy for me). After I removed the strips from 3 and 9 it felt fine to me. Strangely enough my TC95 feels better with lead at 10 and 2. Maybe this is because of my 12pts HL setup that moves the sweetspot a little lower and needs it a little weight at the upper hoop area in order to correct this.

Indeed the L3 feels a little smaller than usual and I considered to buy a L4 but I am still afraid that that would be just a little too big for me. The L3 feels ok to me if I wrap my overgrips a little thicker.

I also own two TC100s 63RA that I don't use anymore as I was missing the extra precision and the better maneuverability of the TC95. Though the TC100 is more forgiving I also made more errors due to the extra power. When I was hitting late with the TC100 the balls were flying into the fench. However serving with the TC100 is an enjoy. A real Thor's Hammer!
I can certainly see if you’re used to playing with the TC95 18x20 then switch to the TC100 is a big adjustment! Out of curiosity, since you’re one of the few playing the TC95 18x20, what’s your string setup?
 

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I can certainly see if you’re used to playing with the TC95 18x20 then switch to the TC100 is a big adjustment! Out of curiosity, since you’re one of the few playing the TC95 18x20, what’s your string setup?
Into the past I used MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm and WC Silverstring at 23/22 kg tension. Nowadays I have a hybrid setup with Head RIP Control 1.20mm and MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm at 24/22 kg.
 
Lol..as i mentioned, my hitting partner who uses a Yonex VCORE Tour 89 played with my other TC95 for the full 2 hours. He is now texting me asking for the Angell website to check out the frames I might have made a convert
Were your old tc95s the 16x19? How do the new 18x20 ones compare to play with? Are they otherwise the same RA/ weight / balance?


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Were your old tc95s the 16x19? How do the new 18x20 ones compare to play with? Are they otherwise the same RA/ weight / balance?


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Yes, my previous TC95 were 16x19. It is too early for me have a detailed comparison but the same feel, playability is certainly very similar just at a higher precision and lower launch angle. I still need to dial but will post more about it after a few hits and a match or two
 
Still pretty buttery, though, even with a full bed of RS Lyon. I've been trying different synthetic grips and lead here and there on the handle but have abandoned that experiment. I'm back to a heavy leather grip and a little lead at 3/9 and 5" strip of head tape. It's probably a little over 12oz and about 7-8pts. hl. (strung) I like Cyclone, and I like RS Lyon. Things are nearly settled, and yes I totally agree, 75-80% power level with this frame is all that's needed, maybe even advised.
yeah when I crank it up to 85% it seems excessive.. like a huge statement

90% is pure unmistakable aggression... like Zeus' thunderbolts leaving craters in the court etc. 100mph+ groundstrokes... tennis balls hate this

95% Ragnarok ... score stops mattering because the universe is ending!

100% transcend the game ... achieve Ahimsa ... all becomes flowers of enlightenment etc.

Glad you like the TC95!

The TC95 18x20 63RA is my favourite Angell. First I felt I didn't the sweetspot as I was used to. So I tried a few lead setups (first with 4x1 inch long strips at 3 and 9 and after that another few grams at 10 and 2 that made it a little too beefy for me). After I removed the strips from 3 and 9 it felt fine to me. Strangely enough my TC95 feels better with lead at 10 and 2. Maybe this is because of my 12pts HL setup that moves the sweetspot a little lower and needs it a little weight at the upper hoop area in order to correct this.

Indeed the L3 feels a little smaller than usual and I considered to buy a L4 but I am still afraid that that would be just a little too big for me. The L3 feels ok to me if I wrap my overgrips a little thicker.

I also own two TC100s 63RA that I don't use anymore as I was missing the extra precision and the better maneuverability of the TC95. Though the TC100 is more forgiving I also made more errors due to the extra power. When I was hitting late with the TC100 the balls were flying into the fench. However serving with the TC100 is an enjoy. A real Thor's Hammer!
yeah the weight I have at 3 and 9 on my tc95s is very minimal and there is a tiny amount at 12 so perhaps its effect is the same as your 10 and 2? We all need different things ofc but it is such a unique frame. Nothing else like it. I was doing wall and serve practice yesterday and the sense of how heavy a ball it produces with a relaxed and loose swing is just special. It effects all the other parts of ones game. Kinda makes things seem effortless even when they arent. It just rewards the right things from me and unlike the tc100 it keeps me on my toes. I need that kind of ask from a stick, it helps me focus better and therefore play better. I can go another 7 years with my TC95's I think... Im at 2.5 years perhaps now?
 
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yeah when I crank it up to 85% it seems excessive.. like a huge statement

90% is pure unmistakable aggression... like Zeus' thunderbolts leaving craters in the court etc. 100mph+ groundstrokes... tennis balls hate this

95% Ragnarok ... score stops mattering because the universe is ending!

100% transcend the game ... achieve Ahimsa ... all becomes flowers of enlightenment etc.



yeah the weight I have at 3 and 9 on my tc95s is very minimal and there is a tiny amount at 12 so perhaps its effect is the same as your 10 and 2? We all need different things ofc but it is such a unique frame. Nothing else like it. I was doing wall and serve practice yesterday and the sense of how heavy a ball it produces with a relaxed and loose swing is just special. It effects all the other parts of ones game. Kinda makes things seem effortless even when they arent. It just rewards the right things from me and unlike the tc100 it keeps me on my toes. I need that kind of ask from a stick, it helps me focus better and therefore play better. I can go another 7 years with my TC95's I think... Im at 2.5 years perhaps now?
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yeah when I crank it up to 85% it seems excessive.. like a huge statement

90% is pure unmistakable aggression... like Zeus' thunderbolts leaving craters in the court etc. 100mph+ groundstrokes... tennis balls hate this

95% Ragnarok ... score stops mattering because the universe is ending!

100% transcend the game ... achieve Ahimsa ... all becomes flowers of enlightenment etc.
I think it is Thor's Hammer in your hands, but what you describe above 85% is the Infinity Gauntlet with an almost full complement of stones. Is it possible that one of us has The Gauntlet?:eek:
 
yeah when I crank it up to 85% it seems excessive.. like a huge statement

90% is pure unmistakable aggression... like Zeus' thunderbolts leaving craters in the court etc. 100mph+ groundstrokes... tennis balls hate this

95% Ragnarok ... score stops mattering because the universe is ending!

100% transcend the game ... achieve Ahimsa ... all becomes flowers of enlightenment etc.



yeah the weight I have at 3 and 9 on my tc95s is very minimal and there is a tiny amount at 12 so perhaps its effect is the same as your 10 and 2? We all need different things ofc but it is such a unique frame. Nothing else like it. I was doing wall and serve practice yesterday and the sense of how heavy a ball it produces with a relaxed and loose swing is just special. It effects all the other parts of ones game. Kinda makes things seem effortless even when they arent. It just rewards the right things from me and unlike the tc100 it keeps me on my toes. I need that kind of ask from a stick, it helps me focus better and therefore play better. I can go another 7 years with my TC95's I think... Im at 2.5 years perhaps now?
Cool. Have any videos of yourself playing?
 
Cool. Have any videos of yourself playing?
yup... (you do realize Im composing an epic poem to be repeated at family feasting halls on cold winter nights right?) ... but It does remind me its been tears and I kinda want to see my form, after my acl reconstruction 16 years away from the sport its kind of exciting to realize Ive never moved better (though I dont recover match to match like I did when 22). My hitting partners talk about it but I really never get to see things their way (I do agility drills daily).

Now dont get me wrong, Im named after a norse god... have olympic athletes in my family tree etc... but in fact it is all "the racquet." Angell racquets can reverse time, and rend the fabric of space and time... my sticks even do all my yardwork and raise the herd of Jackalopes I plan to send into battle against Kanye when Ragnarok arrives.

sheesh...

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Yeah... honestly I swing at 90 power sooo very rarely with the TC95... maybe once or twice a set and because my opponents know I like pace they are forcing me to create it at that point so I dont get to really cream the ball like that. This more relaxed way of generating power is a really great thing about the tc95 and TC100. You rarely swing above 85% if you are using it right... if youve ever played truly talented (elite) players you see how they are almost never swinging full out (just on super important points).

To this day Ive never seen a player hit with more insane aggression than Stan the Man did in his 3 slam wins. I mean I can understand a talented pro hitting that hard... but on every shot??? well he did
 
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I remember you saying that you were going to post up some videos of yourself hitting, about a year ago, but never got around to it. Well, when you're done composing your epic poem, upload the madness.
 
I remember you saying that you were going to post up some videos of yourself hitting, about a year ago, but never got around to it. Well, when you're done composing your epic poem, upload the madness.
I think I said I might record them some time... I believe I alsosaid I will not post them as I enjoy my anonymity here (Im a public figure of sorts and tennis is fun stuff). So you are unlikely to see anything. I dont suck (most days) and played at a relatively high level. If you seek some verifiable truths here on this tennis internet forum I suspect you will be massively disappointed. That said I do travel a lot and there a few people on this forum Id have love to hit with. Im no snob and will hit with anyone who is 3.5 and above. Best players Ive ever hit with were a futures level guy and old coach (who played tour level against Arthur Ashe, lost both times... ofc). My main hitting partner was a wta hitting partner.

That is all you get... dont hold your breath. But yeah Im curious about seeing my form because Ive apparently come a long way and after giving up the sport from an acl injury in college play it means something to me.

Oh yeah and every time I hit a second serve magical rainbow of colorful marshmallows appears.

back on the subject of this thread... I waited 6 years to get an Angell (or the earlier Vantage iteration) and it has been nothing but great. Paul makes sticks that fit my needs. read this: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...95-16x19-flexy-shakedown.553138/#post-9954079

Oh yeah and Im no shill, just a professional wordsmith (horsing off here) that likes chase fuzzy yellow balls around a court.
 
You rarely swing above 85% if you are using it right... if youve ever played truly talented (elite) players you see how they are almost never swinging full out (just on super important points).

To this day Ive never seen a player hit with more insane aggression than Stan the Man did in his 3 slam wins. I mean I can understand a talented pro hitting that hard... but on every shot??? well he did
Totally agree on both points. Stan's hitting was insane... and I wasn't there in person... seeing it live would have been something!
 
Totally agree on both points. Stan's hitting was insane... and I wasn't there in person... seeing it live would have been something!
Precisely, the point I was trying to make... TC95 isnt a stick for redlining for long periods...its more for relaxed power and precision. The stick I used before it the Pacific X Feel pro 95 was extra low powered for a 95... more forgiving than a mid but maybe not as much power as even a PS85. That was a good stick for really working hard for every point. 3 years or so with that stick was good for getting my game together.... helped me appreciate that the TC95 needs to have its power unlocked to make the best use of it.
 
I think I said I might record them some time... I believe I alsosaid I will not post them as I enjoy my anonymity here (Im a public figure of sorts and tennis is fun stuff). So you are unlikely to see anything. I dont suck (most days) and played at a relatively high level. If you seek some verifiable truths here on this tennis internet forum I suspect you will be massively disappointed. That said I do travel a lot and there a few people on this forum Id have love to hit with. Im no snob and will hit with anyone who is 3.5 and above. Best players Ive ever hit with were a futures level guy and old coach (who played tour level against Arthur Ashe, lost both times... ofc). My main hitting partner was a wta hitting partner.

That is all you get... dont hold your breath. But yeah Im curious about seeing my form because Ive apparently come a long way and after giving up the sport from an acl injury in college play it means something to me.

Oh yeah and every time I hit a second serve magical rainbow of colorful marshmallows appears.

back on the subject of this thread... I waited 6 years to get an Angell (or the earlier Vantage iteration) and it has been nothing but great. Paul makes sticks that fit my needs. read this: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...95-16x19-flexy-shakedown.553138/#post-9954079

Oh yeah and Im no shill, just a professional wordsmith (horsing off here) that likes chase fuzzy yellow balls around a court.
Yeah, I'm no stranger to Angell. I have 5, going 6 TC100 racquets. Upgraded from the 95 to 100. Seamless transition. Every racquet I've casually hit with, I always end up going back to the TC-100. Feels like home. Plus I had Paul rearrange the weights for me in the handle, so they're 12 pts HL unstrung, 320 unstrung.
I have a tournament coming up soon in October, so I might post some videos of my serve in the Tennis Tip section. Just need to iron out a few kinks.
 
Yeah, I'm no stranger to Angell. I have 5, going 6 TC100 racquets. Upgraded from the 95 to 100. Seamless transition. Every racquet I've casually hit with, I always end up going back to the TC-100. Feels like home. Plus I had Paul rearrange the weights for me in the handle, so they're 12 pts HL unstrung, 320 unstrung.
I have a tournament coming up soon in October, so I might post some videos of my serve in the Tennis Tip section. Just need to iron out a few kinks.
I agree I can go direcly from the TC95 to Tc100. My main hitting partner use the TC100 and loves it. Its hard to find a thin beam flexy stick that has touch and spin... absolute serve monster. He's one of those players who really doesnt have a second serve just his first serve with a tad more spin. He uses a first like a warmup for a wicked second.

video is one of the most revealing tools, especially on serves... Im currently backing up all sorts of video files as I waste time here.
 
... Angell racquets can reverse time, and rend the fabric of space and time...
Suspecting as much, I raced home and ripped off my pallets. Alas ... no space stone, no time stone, no mind stone. Just vibraniumless foam. I regret that I do not have The Infinity Gauntlet, but enough, I must say modestly, to slay my own Grendels across the way at 75% ... until Ragnarok comes.
 
Tc95 didn’t stay sidelined long. Testing the 1.30 yellow jacket fr Signum Pro

Let’s see how this goes. Ball feeds to the kids and then about an hour of rallying with some buddies
 
Can you elaborate on why you made the switch from TC95 to TC100, and what were the pros and cons of each? I’m getting ready to take the plunge and almost set on the TC95, but every time I hit with one of my other 100 inch racquets, I question whether the TC100 would be a better choice. Any insights you can provide would be much appreciated!

Yeah, I'm no stranger to Angell. I have 5, going 6 TC100 racquets. Upgraded from the 95 to 100. Seamless transition. Every racquet I've casually hit with, I always end up going back to the TC-100. Feels like home. Plus I had Paul rearrange the weights for me in the handle, so they're 12 pts HL unstrung, 320 unstrung.
I have a tournament coming up soon in October, so I might post some videos of my serve in the Tennis Tip section. Just need to iron out a few kinks.
 
Can you elaborate on why you made the switch from TC95 to TC100, and what were the pros and cons of each? I’m getting ready to take the plunge and almost set on the TC95, but every time I hit with one of my other 100 inch racquets, I question whether the TC100 would be a better choice. Any insights you can provide would be much appreciated!
TC95 and TC100 are very much the same lineage. Essentially, the TC100 is a larger head TC95. TC100 will have a bit more spacing in the string bed and more user friendly especially defensively. TC95 will comparatively be a bit more demanding but give more precision. They both have terrific dictating power for those who play with decent mechanics and spend time dialing them in.
 
Can you elaborate on why you made the switch from TC95 to TC100, and what were the pros and cons of each? I’m getting ready to take the plunge and almost set on the TC95, but every time I hit with one of my other 100 inch racquets, I question whether the TC100 would be a better choice. Any insights you can provide would be much appreciated!
TC95 and TC100 are very much the same lineage. Essentially, the TC100 is a larger head TC95. TC100 will have a bit more spacing in the string bed and more user friendly especially defensively. TC95 will comparatively be a bit more demanding but give more precision. They both have terrific dictating power for those who play with decent mechanics and spend time dialing them in.
+1 to exactly what @topspn said. You need decent technique for both in my opinion. I have seen a few entry level recreational players struggle with TC100 as well thinking they could hit like Babolats (which have a ton of power). The power and authority is there in both TC95 and TC100, just need the requisite fluidity in strokes.
 
It does sound interesting or maybe the nano tech jargon spoke to the geek in me :D They have in 18g 1.2mm so would be curious for my TC95s, just wondering what comfort is like
Cool, was thinking the same. Lets exchange thoughts here if you we both get to try it. How are you liking Hyper-G in denser 18x20 btw?
 
Cool, was thinking the same. Lets exchange thoughts here if you we both get to try it. How are you liking Hyper-G in denser 18x20 btw?
I have hyper-g 1.25mm and playability is good, just could be a bit more soft. However, I can drop tension some more from 45lbs or go to 1.2mm. I have both frames with hyper-g 16L at the moment so will be tested thoroughly before i decide on changes in string. So far, my main complaint is string bed stiffness.
 
I have hyper-g 1.25mm and playability is good, just could be a bit more soft. However, I can drop tension some more from 45lbs or go to 1.2mm. I have both frames with hyper-g 16L at the moment so will be tested thoroughly before i decide on changes in string. So far, my main complaint is string bed stiffness.
Yeah, definitely go lower I would suggest. Might get tricky though if you are used to a certain type of feedback from the stringbed. All trial and error I'm afraid.
 
Yeah, definitely go lower I would suggest. Might get tricky though if you are used to a certain type of feedback from the stringbed. All trial and error I'm afraid.
I played TC95 16x19 as low as 45lbs so certainly makes sense to lower tension a bit but chose 45lbs on my new 18x20s as a starting point. The gauge seems fine to me but what’s your string setup for your new TC97s? I know yours are a bit softer anyway due to the head flex.
 
Understood. When I bought and tried the TC97 18x20 awhile back, I went full Tecnifibre Multifeel at 55#. I thought even that (a multi) was stiff/boardy, but the tension was too high. I'm just learning about the dark art of stringing poly low, but I'm liking it.
For context, TC97 will play a bit more plush then TC95 all things equal. TC97 is designed with more head flex so does provide that more plush feel. TC95 plays pretty uniform flex without much head deformation arguably giving it the more dictating power albeit firmer feel. Also, just from the pictures, i get the impression the 18x20 pattern seems tightest on TC95 but not sure. I can’t think of a tighter pattern that I’ve ever played and not complaining. I really enjoyed my first hit and no issues generating heavy spin.
 
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I played TC95 16x19 as low as 45lbs so certainly makes sense to lower tension a bit but chose 45lbs on my new 18x20s as a starting point. The gauge seems fine to me but what’s your string setup for your new TC97s? I know yours are a bit softer anyway due to the head flex.
Full poly all the way for me. I have my TC97 18×20 at 48lbs (just because of their flex, would have gone lower had it been D-beam) and they play absolutely magnificent.
 
For context, TC97 will play a bit more plush then TC95 all things equal. TC97 is designed with more head flex so does provide that more plush feel. TC95 plays pretty uniform flex without much head deformation arguably giving it the more dictating power albeit firmer feel. Also, just from the pictures, i get the impression the 18x20 pattern seems tightest on TC95 but not sure. I can’t think of a tighter pattern that I’ve ever played and not complaining. I really enjoyed my first hit and no issues generating heavy spin.
Absolutely. Also, played with 16x19 patterns for over a decade. I am amazed how well I am liking my denser patterns. Not going back to 16x19 any time soon.
 

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For context, TC97 will play a bit more plush then TC95 all things equal. TC97 is designed with more head flex so does provide that more plush feel. TC95 plays pretty uniform flex without much head deformation arguably giving it the more dictating power albeit firmer feel. Also, just from the pictures, i get the impression the 18x20 pattern seems tightest on TC95 but not sure. I can’t think of a tighter pattern that I’ve ever played and not complaining. I really enjoyed my first hit and no issues generating heavy spin.
I disagree. The TC95 has definitely a softer response and absorbs more shock that is noticeably at hard blocking volleys though the TC97 feels a bit more solid because its crisper feel.
I never experienced the so called more head deformation flex of the TC97. Both the TC95 and TC97 have an uniform flex to me.
 
I disagree. The TC95 has definitely a softer response and absorbs more shock that is noticeably at hard blocking volleys though the TC97 feels a bit more solid because its crisper feel.
I never experienced the so called more head deformation flex of the TC97. Both the TC95 and TC97 have an uniform flex to me.
Yeah, I agree with most of this. Some call the TC97 plush, and I guess it is, but I thought it was noticeably stiffer and crisper in the throat and didn't perceive a lot of head flex either. And I agree about the TC95 being softer, but I find it more solid as well. I like the more flexible and dynamic feel (uniform or whatever). We all perceive things differently, I guess.
 

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Yeah, I agree with most of this. Some call the TC97 plush, and I guess it is, but I thought it was noticeably stiffer and crisper in the throat and didn't perceive a lot of head flex either. And I agree about the TC95 being softer, but I find it more solid as well. I like the more flexible and dynamic feel (uniform or whatever). We all perceive things differently, I guess.
Yes, the difference in feel between the TC95 and the TC97 feels like you would expect from theirs RA values (63 vs 66).
Regarding the stability of the TC95 vs TC97 I must admit that I think you're right that the TC95 also is more solid because that one seems to absorb shock better. Besides my Tc97 feels more maneuverable because of a lower swingweight than my TC95 and through this I can volley a little bit quicker with my TC97 whereas I enjoy hitting touch volleys more with the softer TC95.
 
hmm..so perhaps there is some wording that we interpret a bit differently but for me the TC97 does have a clear head flex that is not in the TC95 or 100. The box beam was in fact designed by Paul with more head flex and he will readily tell you there is head flex difference. In the 16x19, I could string up poly @45 in the TC95 and if I did the same for TC97, I’d get pronounced trampoline effect. This is why the TC97 plays much softer then it’s RA which is not measured in the head. This deformation is not in the D beams and that’s why they feel more solid and arguably more power. Of course we all sense things a bit differently but i seriously am not making this up :D When I asked Paul just recently how he compares the TC95 to TC97 18x20, his response was “you know of course the TC97 has more head flex, that’s the main thing”
 
Can you elaborate on why you made the switch from TC95 to TC100, and what were the pros and cons of each? I’m getting ready to take the plunge and almost set on the TC95, but every time I hit with one of my other 100 inch racquets, I question whether the TC100 would be a better choice. Any insights you can provide would be much appreciated!
TC-95 is the hard hitting little brother of the TC-100 beast master. There really isn't any negative aspects with either racquet, just personal preference. I hit with the 95 for a few years before making the switch, and I just did it because I was better at imparting more topspin on my forehands with the 100 and served a bit more beastly with it as well. However, the TC-95 can obliterate the ball just as well. Spin isn't a problem with the 95 either. Especially on serves. Definitely a serve monster and great for rallies and volleys, I've noticed. Super soft. (63ra. Never tried the 70)
TC-100 has the exact same resume w/ a bit more bite due to larger head size (but not by much at all in comparison) but perhaps less precision, but by very little. What you loose in control, you make up for in pace. I string at 45lbs w/ the TC100 w/ a swing weight of 350 and manage to puts lots of spin to keep it in and fast. I only have good things to say about both racquets. It's just the TC100 was more right for my game. Hope that kinda helps.
 
I disagree. The TC95 has definitely a softer response and absorbs more shock that is noticeably at hard blocking volleys though the TC97 feels a bit more solid because its crisper feel.
I never experienced the so called more head deformation flex of the TC97. Both the TC95 and TC97 have an uniform flex to me.
plush, soft, buttery, flex... mostly we all are describing a set of experiences that in our "pristine inner experience" we think others must share... in fact they rarely do.

to really test empirically you need controls and a big enough sample of frames.... then some lab tests to explore what might be causing these "buttery" sensations.

overall head flex is a more pronouncrd sensation than throat flex and even pauls flexy head stick will feel more uniform flex than some of those narrow beam Volkls because that is just the way he designs stuff.
 
hmm..so perhaps there is some wording that we interpret a bit differently but for me the TC97 does have a clear head flex that is not in the TC95 or 100. The box beam was in fact designed by Paul with more head flex and he will readily tell you there is head flex difference. In the 16x19, I could string up poly @45 in the TC95 and if I did the same for TC97, I’d get pronounced trampoline effect. This is why the TC97 plays much softer then it’s RA which is not measured in the head. This deformation is not in the D beams and that’s why they feel more solid and arguably more power. Of course we all sense things a bit differently but i seriously am not making this up :D When I asked Paul just recently how he compares the TC95 to TC97 18x20, his response was “you know of course the TC97 has more head flex, that’s the main thing”
My previous statement about string tension in my TC97 18x20 was off (corrected by my son:rolleyes:) It was 50#, not 55#. I definitely don't think you're making stuff up, haha. Honestly, though, my comparison of the TC95 16x19 and TC97 18x20 is a bit apples to oranges because of the string pattern differences. Maybe I'd get the 'sensation' (Paul's term) of more head flex in the TC97 16x19 with the same string and tension. As things were, my sensation of the TC97 18x20 was that it was boardy and firm with a multi at 50#.

Here is Paul's response to me Sept. 17, a year ago regarding your same question: "The TC97 frames are slightly more flexible in the hoop and stiffer in the shaft which tends to favour players that are more used to stiffer frames."

Looks like we're both validated, but I would take Paul's response to mean that the TC97 would attract players who like a stiffer (not necessarily stiff) frame and the TC95 those who like a more flexible 'dipped in rainbow marshmallow butter' (thanks BC) frame. But I think we would agree that it's the composite totality of attributes that create the overall sensation of harmony (or not), not just beam type or a flexy head or flexy throat or stiff hoop or vice versa. I'll give you 'plush' on the TC97. I'll take 'buttery' for the TC95--winter's morning in a dish on a dark counter:D
 
My previous statement about string tension in my TC97 18x20 was off (corrected by my son:rolleyes:) It was 50#, not 55#. I definitely don't think you're making stuff up, haha. Honestly, though, my comparison of the TC95 16x19 and TC97 18x20 is a bit apples to oranges because of the string pattern differences. Maybe I'd get the 'sensation' (Paul's term) of more head flex in the TC97 16x19 with the same string and tension. As things were, my sensation of the TC97 18x20 was that it was boardy and firm with a multi at 50#.

Here is Paul's response to me Sept. 17, a year ago regarding your same question: "The TC97 frames are slightly more flexible in the hoop and stiffer in the shaft which tends to favour players that are more used to stiffer frames."

Looks like we're both validated, but I would take Paul's response to mean that the TC97 would attract players who like a stiffer (not necessarily stiff) frame and the TC95 those who like a more flexible 'dipped in rainbow marshmallow butter' (thanks BC) frame. But I think we would agree that it's the composite totality of attributes that create the overall sensation of harmony (or not), not just beam type or a flexy head or flexy throat or stiff hoop or vice versa. I'll give you 'plush' on the TC97. I'll take 'buttery' for the TC95--winter's morning in a dish on a dark counter:D
Another one getting out of hand :D Paul was answering my question on the 18x20s but same applies for 16x19 although there is a small layup difference as i found out recently. Apparently same frame gets a different flow pattern for the different string pattern. Anyway, my test was personal and quite simple. Same spec, same string, same tension and one frame plays great and the other is catapulting flexy. I had to raise the tension on the TC97 to mitigate that feel. Amen to the gods of different sensations. I am very curious on the TC97 18x20 and will be getting same spec as my 95s to try out. Yes, this racquet bug is a curse but enjoyed so many good frames.
 
Another one getting out of hand :D ... I am very curious on the TC97 18x20 and will be getting same spec as my 95s to try out. Yes, this racquet bug is a curse but enjoyed so many good frames.
Speaking of which, are you 40s or 50s? If the latter, you may be suffering from sensation atrophy. That has to be factored in, lol:p Totally kidding, but I take it that you're not about the TC97 18x20s? You're getting those, too?o_O
 
Speaking of which, are you 40s or 50s? If the latter, you may be suffering from sensation atrophy. That has to be factored in, lol:p Totally kidding, but I take it that you're not about the TC97 18x20s? You're getting those, too?o_O
I am afraid it may not be sensation atrophy and just plain overall atrophy :p Why yes, 1 TC97 18x20 in similar spec to my TC95s. I would have played every single frame Paul makes other then the 90 and 105.
 
My previous statement about string tension in my TC97 18x20 was off (corrected by my son:rolleyes:) It was 50#, not 55#. I definitely don't think you're making stuff up, haha. Honestly, though, my comparison of the TC95 16x19 and TC97 18x20 is a bit apples to oranges because of the string pattern differences. Maybe I'd get the 'sensation' (Paul's term) of more head flex in the TC97 16x19 with the same string and tension. As things were, my sensation of the TC97 18x20 was that it was boardy and firm with a multi at 50#.

Here is Paul's response to me Sept. 17, a year ago regarding your same question: "The TC97 frames are slightly more flexible in the hoop and stiffer in the shaft which tends to favour players that are more used to stiffer frames."

Looks like we're both validated, but I would take Paul's response to mean that the TC97 would attract players who like a stiffer (not necessarily stiff) frame and the TC95 those who like a more flexible 'dipped in rainbow marshmallow butter' (thanks BC) frame. But I think we would agree that it's the composite totality of attributes that create the overall sensation of harmony (or not), not just beam type or a flexy head or flexy throat or stiff hoop or vice versa. I'll give you 'plush' on the TC97. I'll take 'buttery' for the TC95--winter's morning in a dish on a dark counter:D
i think of the tc95 as more like a block of dark 85% chocolate wrapped around a unicorns horn with 1 single higgs boson for counterweighting and the ability to manifest my florid prose into shots on court...

sorry, i am so bad
 
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