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plush, soft, buttery, flex... mostly we all are describing a set of experiences that in our "pristine inner experience" we think others must share... in fact they rarely do.

to really test empirically you need controls and a big enough sample of frames.... then some lab tests to explore what might be causing these "buttery" sensations.

overall head flex is a more pronouncrd sensation than throat flex and even pauls flexy head stick will feel more uniform flex than some of those narrow beam Volkls because that is just the way he designs stuff.
Beautifully written I would say. :)
 

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My previous statement about string tension in my TC97 18x20 was off (corrected by my son:rolleyes:) It was 50#, not 55#. I definitely don't think you're making stuff up, haha. Honestly, though, my comparison of the TC95 16x19 and TC97 18x20 is a bit apples to oranges because of the string pattern differences. Maybe I'd get the 'sensation' (Paul's term) of more head flex in the TC97 16x19 with the same string and tension. As things were, my sensation of the TC97 18x20 was that it was boardy and firm with a multi at 50#.

Here is Paul's response to me Sept. 17, a year ago regarding your same question: "The TC97 frames are slightly more flexible in the hoop and stiffer in the shaft which tends to favour players that are more used to stiffer frames."

Looks like we're both validated, but I would take Paul's response to mean that the TC97 would attract players who like a stiffer (not necessarily stiff) frame and the TC95 those who like a more flexible 'dipped in rainbow marshmallow butter' (thanks BC) frame. But I think we would agree that it's the composite totality of attributes that create the overall sensation of harmony (or not), not just beam type or a flexy head or flexy throat or stiff hoop or vice versa. I'll give you 'plush' on the TC97. I'll take 'buttery' for the TC95--winter's morning in a dish on a dark counter:D
This is what I experienced as well. To me the TC97 18x20 plays more like a modern (stiffer but still very comfortable) frame than the TC95 18x20 63RA that has a lttle more muted oldschool feel.
However I play equally well with both frames. I just prefer the feel of the TC95 18x20 63RA.

@topspn So I think we both are right and I hope we achieved a consensus now. :)
 
I have hyper-g 1.25mm and playability is good, just could be a bit more soft. However, I can drop tension some more from 45lbs or go to 1.2mm. I have both frames with hyper-g 16L at the moment so will be tested thoroughly before i decide on changes in string. So far, my main complaint is string bed stiffness.
FYI could also go even thinner with hyper g. I’ve got 1.15 in one of my racquets and am liking it. Very tight spin even off a tight string pattern. My stringer says it can be supplied even at 1.10!!


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This is what I experienced as well. To me the TC97 18x20 plays more like a modern (stiffer but still very comfortable) frame than the TC95 18x20 63RA that has a lttle more muted oldschool feel.
However I play equally well with both frames. I just prefer the feel of the TC95 18x20 63RA.

@topspn So I think we both are right and I hope we achieved a consensus now. :)
Not the same frames but having tried the 100 and 97 16x19 with same fresh strings and weight / balance I noticed the flex difference between the D beam 100 and the box beam 97. Wouldn’t say one is better, just different. Noticed the extra shaft (throat) firmness of the 97 particularly in volleys taken close to the body. Tc97 was more comfy on receiving slower balls, TC 100 more on faster ones.

I also noticed the 100 had this unique character against hard hits where it ‘sucks up’ the energy from them and redirects it to where you want to send it, under control. What’s unique is how you can feel all this going on whilst swinging through the ball. Very satisfying. It’s like a ‘richer’ sweetspot experience.

Wonder if the 95 63RA, or indeed the 70RA 100 has the same?


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FYI could also go even thinner with hyper g. I’ve got 1.15 in one of my racquets and am liking it. Very tight spin even off a tight string pattern. My stringer says it can be supplied even at 1.10!!
I’ve been scared to try Hyper-G again. First string job (16 gauge) in an Angell racket for me and it split a grommet in two places. I’ve had no issues with 18L Cyclone, just been scared by Hyper-G because it’s square (very sharp edged).
 
I’ve been scared to try Hyper-G again. First string job (16 gauge) in an Angell racket for me and it split a grommet in two places. I’ve had no issues with 18L Cyclone, just been scared by Hyper-G because it’s square (very sharp edged).
Don’t be scared, i use to have my TC100s strung with hyper-g 16 all the time and no issues to grommets
 
Can anyone comment on how big a difference in stiffness there is between the TC100 63RA vs the 70RA? I bought and played a set with the 63 yesterday, and I liked it a lot, but wish it were a tad stiffer. That said, I don't want a bazooka like a pure drive or SV98. Anyone know?
 
Can anyone comment on how big a difference in stiffness there is between the TC100 63RA vs the 70RA? I bought and played a set with the 63 yesterday, and I liked it a lot, but wish it were a tad stiffer. That said, I don't want a bazooka like a pure drive or SV98. Anyone know?
The 70RA isn’t stiff like a Babolat, as after it’s strung it actually drops to about 65RA so more like a Wilson 6.1 95. A tad more access to free power, and a slightly lower SW in the 70RA version
 
Not the same frames but having tried the 100 and 97 16x19 with same fresh strings and weight / balance I noticed the flex difference between the D beam 100 and the box beam 97. Wouldn’t say one is better, just different. Noticed the extra shaft (throat) firmness of the 97 particularly in volleys taken close to the body. Tc97 was more comfy on receiving slower balls, TC 100 more on faster ones.

I also noticed the 100 had this unique character against hard hits where it ‘sucks up’ the energy from them and redirects it to where you want to send it, under control. What’s unique is how you can feel all this going on whilst swinging through the ball. Very satisfying. It’s like a ‘richer’ sweetspot experience.

Wonder if the 95 63RA, or indeed the 70RA 100 has the same?


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thats pretty much the reason my main hitting partner switched to the tc100 after trying way too many frames... he absorbs my pace... sometimes he crushes it when he sees his chance and it really adds to the heavyness of serves and "good hands" reaction shots... he has the best hands ive ever played against and ive hit with futures guys. The more impossible the shot at the net the more likely he gets it. Hes embraced his tricky leftyness... great second serve too.
 
... also noticed the 100 had this unique character against hard hits where it ‘sucks up’ the energy from them and redirects it to where you want to send it, under control. What’s unique is how you can feel all this going on whilst swinging through the ball. Very satisfying. It’s like a ‘richer’ sweetspot experience.
Comments like this make me think I might be more interested in a TC100 side experiment than a TC95 18x20. Have you by any chance hit a Volkl V1 Pro? I definitely didn't mind the 99.5-100" head size, but the 23mm beam thickness at the tip and throat was too much for me. That's my only point of reference with 100s so thought I'd ask.
 
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Yeah, well, at least you know it won't melt in the September sun like a Hershey bar, exposing you as a cheat with a pulsing Higgs boson on the end of a unicorn horn:rolleyes: Instant disqualification there...
Indeed, micro braided plushness is not a disqualifying attribute. But even if it were, I would just scream it’s not fair because women get away with it :rolleyes:o_O
 
This is extremely helpful, thank you!! @topspn and @haqq777, thanks to you both as well. I should have probably clarified a bit more, but I’m currently hitting with a 98 sq in racquet and have hit with a TC95 before as well. Loved the power and accuracy with the TC95 but was curious how the TC100 compared before taking the plunge as I want to stick with the D beam Angells. Considering that I will be hanging onto both a 98 and a 100 sq inch racquet (but selling the two Babolats I have), the 95 seems to make the most sense to add to the arsenal and have the variety there as well.

TC-95 is the hard hitting little brother of the TC-100 beast master. There really isn't any negative aspects with either racquet, just personal preference. I hit with the 95 for a few years before making the switch, and I just did it because I was better at imparting more topspin on my forehands with the 100 and served a bit more beastly with it as well. However, the TC-95 can obliterate the ball just as well. Spin isn't a problem with the 95 either. Especially on serves. Definitely a serve monster and great for rallies and volleys, I've noticed. Super soft. (63ra. Never tried the 70)
TC-100 has the exact same resume w/ a bit more bite due to larger head size (but not by much at all in comparison) but perhaps less precision, but by very little. What you loose in control, you make up for in pace. I string at 45lbs w/ the TC100 w/ a swing weight of 350 and manage to puts lots of spin to keep it in and fast. I only have good things to say about both racquets. It's just the TC100 was more right for my game. Hope that kinda helps.
 
Comments like this make me think I might be more interested in a TC100 side experiment than a TC95 18x20. Have you by any chance hit a Volkl V1 Pro? I definitely didn't mind the 99.5-100" head size, but the 23mm beam thickness at the tip and throat was too much for me. That's my only point of reference with 100s so thought I'd ask.
No, not tried that Volkl. I considered it but tbh not a fan of their grip shape so didn’t bother when I was shopping around last year.


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Comments like this make me think I might be more interested in a TC100 side experiment than a TC95 18x20. Have you by any chance hit a Volkl V1 Pro? I definitely didn't mind the 99.5-100" head size, but the 23mm beam thickness at the tip and throat was too much for me. That's my only point of reference with 100s so thought I'd ask.
Tc100 isnt as wide as that at the tip it tapers from 22-20 or 21mm at the tip Its actually not a very wide stick for a 100. Thats a major plus for my hitting partner whose hand reaction is crucial to his gameplay. Whereas Im more of a stroke my weapons kind of player and the TC95 with its slighty better maneuverability + slightly better precision suits me (the slightly more demanding nature focuses my game better). I really think the tc100 suits more player's style in that it really puts the hurt on the ball when opportunities present itself and defense is just a bit better. With a tc95 you want to be dictating or you are doing it wrong... TC100 you can get those dictators to cough up unforced and forced errors.

I suspect the 18x20 TC95 (which does appeal to me but never tied) just enhances precision placement players whereas the 16x19 TC95 is a wicked spin machine... I bet the 18x20 is a little better at the net and I may get one someday for doubles. I know I can switch between the tc95 and 100 with almost no adjustment so I suspect the 18x20 from 16x19 will be similar.
 
Any views on how well the tc95 16x19 plays in the lighter specs? - Like about 300g unstrung? I play a lot of doubles and find that’s the rough weight range that suits me (give or take a few grams ).


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Tc100 isnt as wide as that at the tip it tapers from 22-20 or 21mm at the tip Its actually not a very wide stick for a 100. Thats a major plus for my hitting partner whose hand reaction is crucial to his gameplay. Whereas Im more of a stroke my weapons kind of player and the TC95 with its slighty better maneuverability + slightly better precision suits me (the slightly more demanding nature focuses my game better). I really think the tc100 suits more player's style in that it really puts the hurt on the ball when opportunities present itself and defense is just a bit better. With a tc95 you want to be dictating or you are doing it wrong... TC100 you can get those dictators to cough up unforced and forced errors.

I suspect the 18x20 TC95 (which does appeal to me but never tied) just enhances precision placement players whereas the 16x19 TC95 is a wicked spin machine... I bet the 18x20 is a little better at the net and I may get one someday for doubles. I know I can switch between the tc95 and 100 with almost no adjustment so I suspect the 18x20 from 16x19 will be similar.
That's a tough choice for me; they all appeal. My game is probably a bit paradoxical. I usually start the point with low-risk precision but with enough aggression to draw an error or work my way into the court. If I get 3 or more balls, I'm looking to force things a bit or open the court. One of my main hitting partners, however, is a physical freak, and he's looking to strike immediately, and when he's on, I can't match his power or intensity, so precision and variety are my only options. But against most players, I'm probably the one dictating but not necessarily hitting a ton of winners. I'd say my frames need to be precise, maneuverable, and just powerful enough.

That said, I'd have to hit them all. Either TC95 seems like the natural choice, and although the TC100 seems the most risky, it may be just what I want/need at middle age.
 
No, not tried that Volkl. I considered it but tbh not a fan of their grip shape so didn’t bother when I was shopping around last year.


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I hate the Volkl grip shape. That's why I always used Attiva S pallets or reshaped the grip with hockey/athletic tape. But I understand; it's tough to get on with a frame when the most intimate part (grip) is off-putting.
 
That's a tough choice for me; they all appeal. My game is probably a bit paradoxical. I usually start the point with low-risk precision but with enough aggression to draw an error or work my way into the court. If I get 3 or more balls, I'm looking to force things a bit or open the court. One of my main hitting partners, however, is a physical freak, and he's looking to strike immediately, and when he's on, I can't match his power or intensity, so precision and variety are my only options. But against most players, I'm probably the one dictating but not necessarily hitting a ton of winners. I'd say my frames need to be precise, maneuverable, and just powerful enough.

That said, I'd have to hit them all. Either TC95 seems like the natural choice, and although the TC100 seems the most risky, it may be just what I want/need at middle age.
I would probably try the 18x20 first if you want a blended mix of power and control. The openness of the 16x19s, though liked by many here, is not inherently easier to control and dictate points in the manner you describe.. Unless you have a forehand like Nadal.. But even then, Thiem uses an 18x20.

I havent hit the TC95 18x20 but the 97 is great. Very stable and still maneuverable but potentially less so than the 95 from my experience with the 16x19 95 due to the beam difference in the throat. These are still quite powerful racquets but with immense control and very very good for clay tennis as well.

I have always gravitated toward 18x20s so my opinion is obviously biased, just like others on this forum. In my experience I struggled with the 16x19 openness on OHBH and forehand flats due to the launch angle. Moving from a decade of 18x20 made that switch more issue than it was worth. Others disagree and that is fine but I am sure you know your stroke better than the people posting here and will choose something comfortable for your game taking in all of the differing opinions.

I myself moved to the Prince 93P. It offers a thin beam which I adore, maneuverability and power which I thought I would be unable to replicate after leaving the Pure Storm Limited. Angell makes great quality frames so I would recommend trying them at least once.

Disclaimer * my 16x19 TC95 was missing something and it had a horrible ping and vibration with gut hybrids so maybe there was a slight defect or inconsistency with my particular frame. I havent seen this issue posted here by others and none of my other Angells so it was either the stringer, string or a slight frame issue. My TC90 was a beastly frame but slightly too firm so I onsold it and my favourite of the Angells by far, probably would be equal to my 93P with high 50s gut hybrids.
 
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Any views on how well the tc95 16x19 plays in the lighter specs? - Like about 300g unstrung? I play a lot of doubles and find that’s the rough weight range that suits me (give or take a few grams ).


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I have the TC95 16x19 RA70; originally 300g unstrung, now about 335. Don’t care enough to figure out the balance because Ive tinkered with it so much but I would guess it’s about 3-4 pts headlight. Loved it on FH from the get-go; OHBH flew on me until I added 5g total at 3/9. That seemed to stabilize it. Also have a few grams in the handle and about 1 g at the tip. I actually prefer my TC95 18x20 RA 70 that I bought used (so I have no idea what the original specs were) — currently 330g with some tape at 3/9. FABULOUS on slices for doubles; but the higher launch angle on the 16x19 helps my singles game because I tend to hit too flat.
 
I would probably try the 18x20 first if you want a blended mix of power and control. The openness of the 16x19s, though liked by many here, is not inherently easier to control and dictate points in the manner you describe.. Unless you have a forehand like Nadal.. But even then, Thiem uses an 18x20. ...
I have a growing sense that the TC95 18x20 is the way to go for me. For some, spin equals control and precision, but I like a string bed that's more surgical, and if I'm honest, I've been fighting this open 16x19 for about a year. I was even lost in the woods with it a few months ago. The problem is that I've been looking for a used 18x20 in my specs (and most importantly grip size) for a long time, and they're not flooding the 'For Sale' forum or the bay. And buying new from Paul without knowing for sure is a mistake I made once ... but never again.
 
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I have a growing sense that the TC95 18x20 is the way to go for me. For some, spin equals control and precision, but I like a string bed that's more surgical, and if I'm honest, I've been fighting this open 16x19 for about a year. I was even lost in the woods with it a few months ago. The problem is that I've been looking for a used 18x20 in my specs (and most importantly grip size) for a long time, and they're not flooding the 'For Sale' forum or the bay. And buying new from Paul without knowing for sure is a mistake I made once ... but never again.
directional control can be a real thing with 18 x 20 and if you like the 16 by 19 but just want a little bit more attenuation it seems like a good bet
 
lol..let’s just say I am fairly surprised that i’m adapting so quickly to 18x20. I admit i always enjoyed 8 strings in the throat but never really considered full fledged 18x20 for an amazing amount of years. Doubles match tonight and opponents were not top notch so not a strong test. Anyway, the easy night allowed me to just try things. Serves as all Angells i have tried, a weapon and very nice placement. I also noticed you can hit a running shot down the line like a freaking arrow. Hyper-g pretty good but maybe a tiny bit dampened. Really curious to try Black Zone and Black Night in this frame and the TC97 when i get it.
 
lol..let’s just say I am fairly surprised that i’m adapting so quickly to 18x20. I admit i always enjoyed 8 strings in the throat but never really considered full fledged 18x20 for an amazing amount of years. Doubles match tonight and opponents were not top notch so not a strong test. Anyway, the easy night allowed me to just try things. Serves as all Angells i have tried, a weapon and very nice placement. I also noticed you can hit a running shot down the line like a freaking arrow. Hyper-g pretty good but maybe a tiny bit dampened. Really curious to try Black Zone and Black Night in this frame and the TC97 when i get it.
I know exactly what you mean. I'm surprised as well. I played H.S and college tennis with 16x19 even though I am not an overly spinny hitter. Now I am having a sort of an existential crisis thinking what if I had used 18x20 from the beginning. What if I would have reached the upper echelons of the sport? Could have been the next Michael Russell in the making but didn't make it because equipment screwed me? I am kidding. But still.

Anyway, I am loving how I am gelling with denser pattern, 8 main TC97/PSTGT/PCT - I will be all over the place with open patterns now and miss the precison. It is easier to control shots much more than open patterns and easier to play, at least for me.

I remember that you were stringing Hyper-G a few pounds tighter (53 lbs if I remember correctly) than RS Lyon and YPTS etc in your TC100 and K7s to tame the liveliness a bit. Did you feel the need to do the same in your V3 TC95? I am going to continue my love affair with RS Lyon and try it in my V3 TC97s next. Have never been disappointed with Angell/RS Lyon combo in the past.

Another thing I wanted to mention regarding somewhat muted feel which I have observed. If you go lower in tension in some polys (I have gone as low as 35 lbs) - especially with Hyper G - it starts to feel dampened/muted. But if you already mentioned that you were feeling it a little boardier with mid-high 40s, perhaps Hyper G might not be a good fit in the stick? Just a thought. I loved it in my V2 TC100 so offcourse I could be off too. But yeah, definitely try other strings too, perhaps that solves the dampening dilemma?
 
I know exactly what you mean. I'm surprised as well. I played H.S and college tennis with 16x19 even though I am not an overly spinny hitter. Now I am having a sort of an existential crisis thinking what if I had used 18x20 from the beginning. What if I would have reached the upper echelons of the sport? Could have been the next Michael Russell in the making but didn't make it because equipment screwed me? I am kidding. But still.

Anyway, I am loving how I am gelling with denser pattern, 8 main TC97/PSTGT/PCT - I will be all over the place with open patterns now and miss the precison. It is easier to control shots much more than open patterns and easier to play, at least for me.

I remember that you were stringing Hyper-G a few pounds tighter (53 lbs if I remember correctly) than RS Lyon and YPTS etc in your TC100 and K7s to tame the liveliness a bit. Did you feel the need to do the same in your V3 TC95? I am going to continue my love affair with RS Lyon and try it in my V3 TC97s next. Have never been disappointed with Angell/RS Lyon combo in the past.

Another thing I wanted to mention regarding somewhat muted feel which I have observed. If you go lower in tension in some polys (I have gone as low as 35 lbs) - especially with Hyper G - it starts to feel dampened/muted. But if you already mentioned that you were feeling it a little boardier with mid-high 40s, perhaps Hyper G might not be a good fit in the stick? Just a thought. I loved it in my V2 TC100 so offcourse I could be off too. But yeah, definitely try other strings too, perhaps that solves the dampening dilemma?
All great points buddy, I may be practicing kicking myself a little for all these years of dismissing 18x20 as a pattern for flat hitters only. I only have TC95s and TC97 on the way in 18x20. PSTGT 16x20 and P17 with 8 mains in the throat. Nothing open pattern per se in my collection anymore. TC95’s spin is pretty good, not as loopy and kicks through the court better vs kick that goes higher. Better late then never as they say

My favorite setup for TC100 was hyper-g 16g @53lbs as you indicated. I did bump up tension since hyper-g does have a bit of liveliness to it. In my current TC95 it’s at 45lbs. I’d say string bed feels slightly firm and a bit muted but not too bad. I will be trying BZ and BK for sure and see if I can get slightly more connected feel and I’ll start @44lbs and adjust from there. No issues with 1.25 gauge which I can get BZ in but will be getting BK in 1.23mm.
 
They don’t have 1.20, Tourna went back to classifying their 16g as 1.30 and 17g as 1.25mm
Ohh... ok didn't know that... interesting. In TW Europe they still have a reel that is the 1.20mm... but what you're saying is that it's the same string thickness, they're just re-classifying it as 1.25mm now... or they have changed the thickness to the more standard 1.3 and 1.25mm?
 
Yeah, Tourna was flip flopping their string gauge classifications. First re-classifying 16g 1.25 and 17g 1.20 then flipping back again to classifying 16g 1.30 and 17 1.25 :rolleyes: No clue what that was all about.

Only string i have in 1.20mm is yonex poly tour fire which i bought by mistake thinking it was 1.25 :D
 
Yeah, Tourna was flip flopping their string gauge classifications. First re-classifying 16g 1.25 and 17g 1.20 then flipping back again to classifying 16g 1.30 and 17 1.25 :rolleyes: No clue what that was all about.

Only string i have in 1.20mm is yonex poly tour fire which i bought by mistake thinking it was 1.25 :D
Can't remember whether I asked you before... but now that you're in the 18x20 camp with the TC95s, have you tried WC Red Ghost? It's 1.18, very comfortable, and quite spin friendly. I had it in my Tec 315 Limited 18x20 and it was awesome. Next, I might try the WC Red Ghost in the mains and BZ in the crosses to see if the slippery BZ might help it slide more and last even longer. Also might try Gosen AK Pro Control 1.24mm in the Mains and BZ in Crosses in the TC97 128x20.
 
Can't remember whether I asked you before... but now that you're in the 18x20 camp with the TC95s, have you tried WC Red Ghost? It's 1.18, very comfortable, and quite spin friendly. I had it in my Tec 315 Limited 18x20 and it was awesome. Next, I might try the WC Red Ghost in the mains and BZ in the crosses to see if the slippery BZ might help it slide more and last even longer. Also might try Gosen AK Pro Control 1.24mm in the Mains and BZ in Crosses in the TC97 128x20.
Thanks, i have a couple of strings to try so i might try RG as well. I have only tried scorpion 1.23 and silver string from WC. Like them both but scorpion was too lively for me.
 
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Hi guys,
Though I really like MSV Focus Hex 1.10 mm in my TC95 18x20 as a cross string (with Head RIP Control 1.20mm into the mains) that shaped polyester string cuts through the soft Angell grommets unfortunately. I knew this issue but I didn't have another string in stock so I still was stubborn to use the MSV Focus Hex.

I only seem to have this issue with Angell frames. Why doesn't Angell make their grommets from a stronger materials like those ones of other makes?

I prefer very thin strings (not thicker than 1.20mm) as they give more feel and I am not a frequent string breaker.

I already tried:
  • WC Silverstring 1.20mm: feels pretty nice to me however I prefer a little thinner and a little more crisp string.
  • RS Lyon 1.20mm: As many posters seem to like this string I tried this one into one my TC100s. However I didn't really like this one. It has a bit wierd feel to me.
So I am looking for an (rounded) alternative for the MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm. What strings can you recommend me?

PS. I just discovered an rounded version (that is made of the same material as the Focus Hex :)). What about MSV Co Focus 1.18mm?
 
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Hi guys,
Though I really like MSV Focus Hex 1.10 mm in my TC95 18x20 as a cross string (with Head RIP Control 1.20mm into the mains) that shaped polyester string cuts through the soft Angell grommets unfortunately. I knew this issue but I didn't have another string in stock so I still was stubborn to use the MSV Focus Hex.

I only seem to have this issue with Angell frames. Why doesn't Angell make their grommets from a stronger materials like those ones of other makes?

I prefer very thin strings (not thicker than 1.20mm) as they give more feel and I am not a frequent string breaker.

I already tried:
  • WC Silverstring 1.20mm: feels pretty nice to me however I prefer a little thinner and a little more crisp string.
  • RS Lyon 1.20mm: As many posters seem to like this string I tried this one into one my TC100s. However I didn't really like this one. It has a bit wierd feel to me.
So I am looking for an (rounded) alternative for the MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm. What strings can you recommend me?
Look no further then Tourna Black Zone which has a nice comfortable decently connected feel. It would work great as a cross string as it has slippery long lasting surface that will allow the mains to slide easily and snap back. It will be my next string for my TC95s but full bed. Give it a try and i think TW Europe still has 1.20mm
 

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Look no further then Tourna Black Zone which has a nice comfortable decently connected feel. It would work great as a cross string as it has slippery long lasting surface that will allow the mains to slide easily and snap back. It will be my next string for my TC95s but full bed. Give it a try and i think TW Europe still has 1.20mm
Thanks! Sounds like a great string according the TW review.
However I first try to return my 3 sets of MSV Focus Hex and exchange for MSV Co Focus as the Tourna BZ is not available with that reseller unfortunately.
 
I do have a couple of things to fix as today showed me. In hitting around it wasn’t to evident but if i am playing a singles match it will effect me since it is a part of my game. Approach shots especially weaker returns mid court fly a bit on me. I had to really exaggerate my swing finishing over my head like the Nadal stroke to get more brush. String bed is a bit stiff @45lbs yet a bit lively so not getting enough pocketing. It is not a problem even hitting out from the back court. I think a bit less lively string at lower tension will do the trick.
 
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For those who have hit both, what have experiences with the tc95 in 16x19 vs 18x20 been. Still loving the tight pattern but very curious about the other offering
Almost 2 different sticks in my opinion. The 16x19 having a pretty high launch angle, a bit more power, easier acces to spin.
The 18x20 having; lower launch angle, bit less power (but still powerfull!), more precision.
 

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I do have a couple of things to fix as today showed me. In hitting around it wasn’t to evident but if i am playing a singles match it will effect me since it is a part of my game. Approach shots especially weaker returns mid court fly a bit on me. I had to really exaggerate my swing finishing over my head like the Nadal stroke to get more brush. String bed is a bit stiff @45lbs yet a bit lively so not getting enough pocketing. It is not a problem even hitting out from the back court. I think a bit less lively string at lower tension will do the trick.
Indeed this is an inherent feature to the denser string pattern. You just need to exaggerate your topspin strokes a bit more than with the 16x19. Especially with short low approach shots.
First I was struggling a bit with this issue but after a while I managed to hit those approach shots properly. So I think you aren't getting used to the TC95 18x20 completely.
Besides hitting topspin strokes with a (stiff) freshly strung stringbed is often a bit more difficult. It sounds like your stringbed wasn't broken in yet.
 
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