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topspn

Hall of Fame
With my not-yet-fully-healed elbow I think I'm gonna stick to just multis for some time. Trouble is the TC100 that I use needs something to rein it in a little. Currently I've got Head Velocity natural 16 in there, which plays fine, but is still a little more wild than velocity black in my donnay formula. Thinking Prince Premier Control could perhaps tame the beast a little bit, but I wonder if anybody has any suggestions for other control-oriented multis that could steady the racquet out a bit.
I’d certainly try a syn gut which have more control then multis. Like prince or Gosen OG sheep
 
Remarkable frame the 16x19, but since moving to the TC95 18x20, I have to say I haven't missed it for a second. But let me flip the formula for its (18x20) specialty ... flaming arrows to sculpting spin on demand ... if you can unlock it;) Guess it all boils down to the foundation, perspective, and approach one brings to the sport, not to mention mechanics.
Hmmm... someday I might pick up an 18x20 TC95. Back when I hit with YT prestiges Id switch between the MP and Pro depending on the weather, usually using the MP because it was softer and I used heavy spin less. If I played more doubles again Id likely get use out of an 18x20 but unless i do some league play getting those doubles crews together would be 3X as difficult as just a singles hit.
 

krikamons

New User
if anyone is using angell's hybrid grip (without an OG) - how do you make/keep it tacky? I read about leather grip treatments - denaturated alcohol + castor oil - do you think the same could be used for a hybrid? (Adding OG not option this time as I went for size 5 and anything extra would bee too big)
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
With my not-yet-fully-healed elbow I think I'm gonna stick to just multis for some time. Trouble is the TC100 that I use needs something to rein it in a little. Currently I've got Head Velocity natural 16 in there, which plays fine, but is still a little more wild than velocity black in my donnay formula. Thinking Prince Premier Control could perhaps tame the beast a little bit, but I wonder if anybody has any suggestions for other control-oriented multis that could steady the racquet out a bit.
Before I jumped to the 18x20, I was experimenting with Tecnifibre Multifeel 16 in my TC95 16x19s at around 56#. I was impressed with the control I got from it, and the string doesn't move. Try it out but string it at least mid-50s.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I wish we had someone who could confirm our suspicions that since K7 lime measures 64RA then there has been an adjustment to the red. The red first few batches were quite soft and more like 56RA. Anyone have a red from last few months with measured RA?
 

Prem

New User
I wish we had someone who could confirm our suspicions that since K7 lime measures 64RA then there has been an adjustment to the red. The red first few batches were quite soft and more like 56RA. Anyone have a red from last few months with measured RA?
I have three K7 red. First one bought during Feb 2018, then on June 2018 and the final one is a month ago. The first one plays really soft and the other two plays firm and like a 62-64 RA kind of firm. So there is stiffness adjustment made. As a result I gain in power too.

Whoever felt the first few batches of K7 anaemic, should definitely try the new batch.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I have three K7 red. First one bought during Feb 2018, then on June 2018 and the final one is a month ago. The first one plays really soft and the other two plays firm and like a 62-64 RA kind of firm. So there is stiffness adjustment made. As a result I gain in power too.

Whoever felt the first few batches of K7 anaemic, should definitely try the new batch.
Thanks for confirming our suspicions (y)
 

Paulo Braz

Semi-Pro
Maybe I should give it another try. I like the feel of K7 line. But then again I’m pretty happy with TC95 16m.


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I also like the feel of the K7 line. But I will not try the K7 Red again. I will focus on K7 Lime (mine has not yet arrived). And what do you think of yours? Did you do any further testing?

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Jouke

Semi-Pro
I have three K7 red. First one bought during Feb 2018, then on June 2018 and the final one is a month ago. The first one plays really soft and the other two plays firm and like a 62-64 RA kind of firm. So there is stiffness adjustment made. As a result I gain in power too.

Whoever felt the first few batches of K7 anaemic, should definitely try the new batch.
Mine is also from the summer of 18. K7 Red. Played pretty stiff. Even was the only Angell to give me a little elbow discomfort with full poly Lyon. Really liked how it played though! And PLENTY of power.
 

Caol-ila

New User
Have you noticed any difference between the two?
I think at present I cannot give an opinion. When it arrived it had poly strings and I found it very stiff, then I put the AK PRO CX and it played very soft, softer than the younger K7. But even if I asked the same tensions I see that the new strings are less tense than those on the younger K7. Probably the stringer did not work well. Now I do not know how much softness comes from the racquet and how much from the strings.
Anyway I prefer the "stiffer" one, but still I find it very comfortable.
 

t_pac

Rookie
My K7 Reds are from mid July and early August 2018. Neither of them are remotely what I’d call stiff, they’re way softer than my DR98 and Pro Kennex Q Tour.

More comparable to the Prince Phantom 100 I was trying for a while.

I wonder if this is a perception issue or a quality control one? Would be surprised if it’s the latter.

Stated RA hasn’t changed.
 

Subaruvich

Semi-Pro
I also like the feel of the K7 line. But I will not try the K7 Red again. I will focus on K7 Lime (mine has not yet arrived). And what do you think of yours? Did you do any further testing?

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As much as I like the frame in practice, the real test will be the match play, I think. When I’m under pressure and fatigue late in the second set. First tournament starts next week, will see :)
Let us know how you find your Lime when it arrives!


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haqq777

Legend
First hit with Black Knight and I am very impressed, in all honesty. Comfortable, predictable and very tempered. I had no issues with adjusting to the power level. The bigger I swung the more control I felt, very similar to my favorite RS Lyon in Angells.

@topspn is it just me or the string a bit more dampened/muted than most of mainstream polys in the market? Also I think I can go even lower than 45 lbs in my 18x20 given it seems lower powered than Hyper-G which I was last using. I had to up a few pounds to tame that lively stringbed of Hyper-G in my TC97 18×20. How long is the playability for you?

I only hit with it for an hour so I still have ways to go before I can claim it has dethroned RS Lyon, but a very very nice comfort/control string so far.
 

recsoares

Rookie
First hit with Black Knight and I am very impressed, in all honesty. Comfortable, predictable and very tempered. I had no issues with adjusting to the power level. The bigger I swung the more control I felt, very similar to my favorite RS Lyon in Angells.

@topspn is it just me or the string a bit more dampened/muted than most of mainstream polys in the market? Also I think I can go even lower than 45 lbs in my 18x20 given it seems lower powered than Hyper-G which I was last using. I had to up a few pounds to tame that lively stringbed of Hyper-G in my TC97 18×20. How long is the playability for you?

I only hit with it for an hour so I still have ways to go before I can claim it has dethroned RS Lyon, but a very very nice comfort/control string so far.
I never saw this brand in Europe...


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matchpoint9

Rookie
First hit with Black Knight and I am very impressed, in all honesty. Comfortable, predictable and very tempered. I had no issues with adjusting to the power level. The bigger I swung the more control I felt, very similar to my favorite RS Lyon in Angells.

@topspn is it just me or the string a bit more dampened/muted than most of mainstream polys in the market? Also I think I can go even lower than 45 lbs in my 18x20 given it seems lower powered than Hyper-G which I was last using. I had to up a few pounds to tame that lively stringbed of Hyper-G in my TC97 18×20. How long is the playability for you?

I only hit with it for an hour so I still have ways to go before I can claim it has dethroned RS Lyon, but a very very nice comfort/control string so far.
It’s a great string!! Agree 100%, the harder you swing the better the outcome it seems.


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haqq777

Legend
I never saw this brand in Europe...


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Yes, it is a string by Tier One Sports, a US based company. I am not sure how their distribution works outside of US to be honest. I know they are available in US and Europe and their website says 'coming soon' to Asia, Latin America and Australia. Definitely worth a try if you can get it.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
First hit with Black Knight and I am very impressed, in all honesty. Comfortable, predictable and very tempered. I had no issues with adjusting to the power level. The bigger I swung the more control I felt, very similar to my favorite RS Lyon in Angells.

@topspn is it just me or the string a bit more dampened/muted than most of mainstream polys in the market? Also I think I can go even lower than 45 lbs in my 18x20 given it seems lower powered than Hyper-G which I was last using. I had to up a few pounds to tame that lively stringbed of Hyper-G in my TC97 18×20. How long is the playability for you?

I only hit with it for an hour so I still have ways to go before I can claim it has dethroned RS Lyon, but a very very nice comfort/control string so far.
I knew you’d enjoy it. Ever since I’ve tried it a few months ago I have not been able to play another string. It is on all my frames and as you said it has this quality in hard hitting that provides control and very tempered and balanced. It does have a bit of muted feel but not as much as RS Lyon in my estimation. I have noticed touch shots which require a bit more feel are coming much easier to me. I love it on serve as well were I again get a bit more feel and pretty confident going full out on 2nd serve kick.
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
No big sale currently, however, I bought 3 packs only to try. If I will be happy with it - then I will wait for their sale. (y)
 

MilanA

New User
No big sale currently, however, I bought 3 packs only to try. If I will be happy with it - then I will wait for their sale. (y)
There is now...discount code: AUSIOPEN2019 until 28. JAN. 25% off storewide. Also for eu site.

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Paulo Braz

Semi-Pro
So, here is how K7 Lime stands strung with 17G Kirshbaum Pro Line II and Solinco Hyper-G hybrid @21/20kg.
Weight 347g
(Strings +16g, Angell Hybrid Grip +9g, Overgrip +5g, dampener +2g)
Balance 313mm
SW 321
Flex 64RA
RDC String-bed stiffness 59
ERT-300 dynamic tension 36
Recoil weight 166
Mgr/I 21.15

String spacing looks the same as on 18m both TC97 and TC95. And why would it be different when they all share the same grommets. However the hoop of K7 Lime is ~2mm wider and ~2mm shorter than TC95’s and TC97’s. Could be just because it’s freshly strung!? Tension is the same, but different strings. Will check later again when strings settle in.
#3 grip runs bigger than on custom line.

Hopefully I’ll get some court time to hit with it tomorrow. After that I plan to add some weight at 3 and 9.



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Adding 4 grams of lead at 3 and 9 hours (2 grams on each side) adds how many SW points approximately?
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
How do you switch so easily? Yesterday I took TC100 V2 - and it was quite difficult for me as feel, manoeuvrability was different from V3. I made a lot of unforced errors.
 

haqq777

Legend
Hit with TC100 today for a bit and felt out of control compared to my TC95s. I had to put it down and grab a TC95..mama mia
I feel like I am playing so well with my TC97 these days. I need to stop doing that and start switching back and forth again and mess about with strings and tensions. Tonight will get two of my TC100 and set things right again :-D
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I feel like I am playing so well with my TC97 these days. I need to stop doing that and start switching back and forth again and mess about with strings and tensions. Tonight will get two of my TC100 and set things right again :-D
:laughing::laughing: Just say no to playing well :X3: :p
 
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