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I dunno...I have some black shaped poly in my tc100. When it was freshly strung it was at 25kg tension and the balls still had the tendency to sail long if there was not enough spin on them. With lower tension I'd think they would sail long even more.

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Bought a used TC97 off the auction site with the following specs: 330g/11.7 oz., 315 9ts. HL. What modifications would I need to do in order to have the racket similar to RF97A?
I had a 16x19 TC97 (I assume yours is 16x19 since RF is) that I wanted to feel like the RF only slightly lighter. Unfortunately the TC felt vague and not as solid as the RF and even adding lead as was suggested here did not help. I finally gave up and sold it. Currently have the TC 97 18x20 which although not a RF replacement feels totally different. My solution to the RF quandary was to buy a non RF staff 97 and mod it a little.
 
Thanks for the feedback.

I'll see how it plays later this week. Worst case scenario I sell it and not be out much $ on it.
Yup true. Many others love the 16x19 TC97 so I may be an outlier. Keepers for me were the TC95 16x19 and TC97 18x20. Liked the TC100 too but the Prince Phantom Pro 100p set them out to pasture. Would like to try a K7 but haven’t found a used one yet in my specs at right price. Good luck.
 

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Yup true. Many others love the 16x19 TC97 so I may be an outlier. Keepers for me were the TC95 16x19 and TC97 18x20. Liked the TC100 too but the Prince Phantom Pro 100p set them out to pasture. Would like to try a K7 but haven’t found a used one yet in my specs at right price. Good luck.
If I still have my K7 at the next meetup you can try it!
 
Anyone played with K7 Lime and also TC97 16x19, based on specs TC97 is expected to be less flex with more power, and probably also more spin. Curious about how each performs on groundstokes, OHBH top-spin and slices, serves and volleys. Is K7 lime better for doubles and TC97 for singles for example?
@Kurt0707 I recently bought TC97 16x19 310g(11oz) / 315mm(9ptsHL) and K7 Lime both strung with Halo2. Since they arrived I mainly played with TC97 cause it is closer to my regular racquet in terms of specs and string pattern, with K7 lime I played for about 3-4 hours so far.
With TC97 it is easier to generate more top spin, in terms of precision I would rate them the same. I feel like K7 lime is a bit more forgiving on off center shots, though TC97 is also an easy one to play with (compared to PS97). K7 Lime swings heavier, and I would say it is a bit more powerful than my TC97, but no rocket launchers with either of the sticks, just nice deep shots...
I use both 2HBH (mainly) and OHBH - K7 works better for me when I hit OHBH. Strangely enough, even though K7 Lime is heavier than my TC97 it fatigues my shoulder less...
In terms of serves they work almost the same for me, though, THC97 is a bit more precise (I usually have slice or kick serves).
Both racquets feel solid and maneuverable by the net, though, my opponents are usually ~3.5 females, so they give me nothing crazy in terms of pace... And I mainly play doubles, only had 1 singles match and played with K7 as expected - I reckon, not much difference here in terms of which racquet to use for doubles vs. singles games.
As of now, I do really enjoy playing with either of the racquets...I guess, will have to sell my Wilsons if it goes like this :)
Hope this helps.
 
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WOW!

I've been playing with the RF97A for about 2 years now and just hit with me new to me Angell TC97, 330g, 315mm balance @ 9pts HL. This stick is a beast! All of my shots had considerable more pace and control. Granted, the Angell was strung with full poly, unknown brand and tension to me right now, whereas the RF97A was strung with my favorite poly/syn gut setup.

Since I bought 1 of the 2 rackets from the auction site, I'm thinking of buying the 2nd matching racket, but debating buying a new one. Trying to justify the cost of one new racket vs 2 slightly used rackets, AND not having to wait for them to be made and shipped.

There is noticeable difference between the two stick but I cannot yet comment whether this is due to the string differences. I'll string with my setup and report back.

Anyway, I think I'm all aboard the Angell train.

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I would also like to comment that this thread is packed with information regarding Angell rackets. I think I have spent a few weeks reading here and there. What I would appreciate, and I"m sure others would to, some sort of Angell rackets cheat sheet that clearly and briefly describes each rackets playability and other characteristics. I know that this is subjective from player to player, but would provide a good basis to make a purchase.

Anyway, I'm glad I FINALLY made the purchase and looking forward to playing with these sticks.
 
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I need some input. I'm planning on ordering the V3 TC95 18x20 63 RA. Curiosity has got the better of me even though my classic TC95 is perfect. My current TC95s are 320g 12 pts HL. I'm debating whether to up the weight for a little more plow through by going with the 330g 12 pt HL version. Main thing I'm worried about though is how much the swing weight will increase. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
 
I need some input. I'm planning on ordering the V3 TC95 18x20 63 RA. Curiosity has got the better of me even though my classic TC95 is perfect. My current TC95s are 320g 12 pts HL. I'm debating whether to up the weight for a little more plow through by going with the 330g 12 pt HL version. Main thing I'm worried about though is how much the swing weight will increase. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Swing weight will not increase as the added weight will be in the handle. Angells have a weight system in different holes under the pallets for weight/balance adjustments. Another thing to think about is same weight and 10HL which plays great and will have more punch then your setup
 
Swing weight will not increase as the added weight will be in the handle. Angells have a weight system in different holes under the pallets for weight/balance adjustments. Another thing to think about is same weight and 10HL which plays great and will have more punch then your setup
I think it would have to increase SW some. Even if you add nothing but weight to the handle, the force needed to rotate the racquet at the focal point (the handle) would increase, albeit less so than adding weight at the hoop. The 320g 10 HL is an interesting idea. How’s the swing weight compare between a 320 10 and a 330 12?
 
I think it would have to increase SW some. Even if you add nothing but weight to the handle, the force needed to rotate the racquet at the focal point (the handle) would increase, albeit less so than adding weight at the hoop. The 320g 10 HL is an interesting idea. How’s the swing weight compare between a 320 10 and a 330 12?
any weight added to grip area is not going to increase sw, the higher you go toward the hoop of the racket the more sw will be added
Here is ttw place where you can go experiment by adding weights on different points http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/customizationReverse.php
 
I think it would have to increase SW some. Even if you add nothing but weight to the handle, the force needed to rotate the racquet at the focal point (the handle) would increase, albeit less so than adding weight at the hoop. The 320g 10 HL is an interesting idea. How’s the swing weight compare between a 320 10 and a 330 12?
Ok, maybe you’ll get an .1 increase SW ;) The balance will not change the SW since you’re just switching weight spots under the pallets
 
For those who uses Sergetti method. I'm wondering if tension sheet will be the same in both cases:
-- we are inputing same string, but different tension for mains and crosses, let's say 22/20, resulting final reference tension 21kg.
-- we are inputing same string, same tension mains and crosses - 21kg, reference tension 21kg.

What do you think?
 
@Kurt0707 I recently bought TC97 16x19 310g(11oz) / 315mm(9ptsHL) and K7 Lime both strung with Halo2. Since they arrived I mainly played with TC97 cause it is closer to my regular racquet in terms of specs and string pattern, with K7 lime I played for about 3-4 hours so far.
With TC97 it is easier to generate more top spin, in terms of precision I would rate them the same. I feel like K7 lime is a bit more forgiving on off center shots, though TC97 is also an easy one to play with (compared to PS97). K7 Lime swings heavier, and I would say it is a bit more powerful than my TC97, but no rocket launchers with either of the sticks, just nice deep shots...
I use both 2HBH (mainly) and OHBH - K7 works better for me when I hit OHBH. Strangely enough, even though K7 Lime is heavier than my TC97 it fatigues my shoulder less...
In terms of serves they work almost the same for me, though, THC97 is a bit more precise (I usually have slice or kick serves).
Both racquets feel solid and maneuverable by the net, though, my opponents are usually ~3.5 females, so they give me nothing crazy in terms of pace... And I mainly play doubles, only had 1 singles match and played with K7 as expected - I reckon, not much difference here in terms of which racquet to use for doubles vs. singles games.
As of now, I do really enjoy playing with either of the racquets...I guess, will have to sell my Wilsons if it goes like this :)
Hope this helps.
Wow the lime is more powerful than tc97 16x19. I found the red low powered which was ok and really lacking in plow which was the main problem, thought lime would have similar traits. I’ve said before that the tc97 16x19 plays as if the patterns more closed than it looks, has a low launch angle and slices heavy too.
 
WOW!

I've been playing with the RF97A for about 2 years now and just hit with me new to me Angell TC97, 330g, 315mm balance @ 9pts HL. This stick is a beast! All of my shots had considerable more pace and control. Granted, the Angell was strung with full poly, unknown brand and tension to me right now, whereas the RF97A was strung with my favorite poly/syn gut setup.

Since I bought 1 of the 2 rackets from the auction site, I'm thinking of buying the 2nd matching racket, but debating buying a new one. Trying to justify the cost of one new racket vs 2 slightly used rackets, AND not having to wait for them to be made and shipped.

There is noticeable difference between the two stick but I cannot yet comment whether this is due to the string differences. I'll string with my setup and report back.

Anyway, I think I'm all aboard the Angell train.

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I would also like to comment that this thread is packed with information regarding Angell rackets. I think I have spent a few weeks reading here and there. What I would appreciate, and I"m sure others would to, some sort of Angell rackets cheat sheet that clearly and briefly describes each rackets playability and other characteristics. I know that this is subjective from player to player, but would provide a good basis to make a purchase.

Anyway, I'm glad I FINALLY made the purchase and looking forward to playing with these sticks.
Good to hear...also your arm won’t drop off using the Angell
 
That's a fair bit of lead...SW somewhere around 345?

Have you hit with it in that setup yet?

We need more specs - final static weight, balance etc!
350 grams with overgrip, string and dampener. All the lead was added to the head, leaving it well balanced, I'm not sure how many stitches. It has the string volkl cyclone tour 1.30 with 52 lbs.

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No, original grip.

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Your strings (and maybe dampener as well) must be a lot heavier than mine as my K7 also weighs 350 grams.

I measured this as follows:
  • Strung with Head RIP Control 1.20mm and MSV CoFocus 1.18mm + Pacific O-dampener: 312 grams
    (Unfortunately I forgot to weight unstrung but I guess the strings weigh ca. 13 grams. Yes these ones are very light (thin) strings. The dampener weighs ca. 2,5 grams)
  • Lead strips: 10 grams (see picture)
  • Replaced original grip with TW Leather (trimmed): 22 grams
  • Yonex SuperGrap Overgrip: 6 grams
With this setup I measured the balance at 32,4cm (ca. 6 pts HL).
 
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Your strings (and maybe dampener as well) must be a lot heavier than mine as my K7 weighs 350 grams.

I measured this as follows:
  • Strung with Head RIP Control 1.20mm and MSV CoFocus 1.18mm + Pacific O-dampener: 312 grams
    (Unfortunately I forgot to weight unstrung but I guess the strings weigh ca. 13 grams. Yes these ones are very light (thin) strings. The dampener weighs ca. 2,5 grams)
  • Lead strips: 10 grams (see picture)
  • Replaced original grip with TW Leather (trimmed): 22 grams
  • Yonex SuperGrap Overgrip: 6 grams
With this setup I measured the balance at 32,4cm (ca. 6 pts HL).
My unstrung is weighing 314.8g + 4.2g overgrap supergrap + 10 lead, + 2.8g dampener. The strings are quite heavy, I think it's around 18 to 20g.

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My unstrung is weighing 314.8g + 4.2g overgrap supergrap + 10 lead, + 2.8g dampener. The strings are quite heavy, I think it's around 18 to 20g.

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Did you already play with this setup? I only hit against the wall of my vestibule within my apartment while my neighbours aren't at home. :-D
It still feels maneuverable to me.
 
Did you already play with this setup? I only hit against the wall of my vestibule within my apartment while my neighbours aren't at home. :-D
It still feels maneuverable to me.
I played yesterday. Despite the configuration the racket remains well handleable. Regarding the string, I will soon change to one between 1.20 and 1.25mm and I will use 48lbs. In this configuration I played yesterday the racket was very powerful, allowed a quick swing and greatly improved the plow-through.

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I played yesterday. Despite the configuration the racket remains well handleable. Regarding the string, I will soon change to one between 1.20 and 1.25mm and I will use 48lbs. In this configuration I played yesterday the racket was very powerful, allowed a quick swing and greatly improved the plow-through.

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Sounds like a good plan! Thinner gauge strings will lower the swingweight and besides they'll give more feel as well.
 
Sounds like a good plan! Thinner gauge strings will lower the swingweight and besides they'll give more feel as well.
No doubt. I just put this string to compare with the K7 Red I had and I used the same string. Thinner strings will increase power, spin and plow-through.

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