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topspn

Hall of Fame
No, on the Tc custom series there is a significant gap between the pallets. You can easily put a knife between it.

On the K7 series the grip is molded. You can not change the pallets. You can send it to ring and roll and have them put a custom handle on there.
Ok, I can’t really confirm or deny that the pallet on TC has a significant gap. I’m obviously not going to take off one of my leathers grips to check :D
However a molded handle means that they literally put a mold on the racquet and pour in the material in this cylinder like mold. Once the material dries, they take this mold off and what’s left is this hardened poured handle. What I am looking at in the picture looks like a clam shell pallet and does not look like a molded handle. So I am not sure what’s going on here?? Are they installing this pallet differently or what? But it doesn’t make sense to install pallets in two different ways on prebuilt or custom unless I am missing something that would make sense in the manufacturing process.
 

ChrisG

New User
Hi !! I'm a new family member !
Just bought through the classifieds (thks TW!) a TC 95 V2 300g and 32,5cm (16x19), and what a stick !! I started playing again last September after 15 years off, and I have a lot of trouble finding what would be my main racquet.
Tried Pure Aero, very arm unfriendly, impossible to get even a minimal access to control, I was forced to play with the handbrake on, what a nightmare.
Then I went to the other end of the spectrum with the Tour 100P, good stick, but lacks character.
My Tennis club has a deal with Tecnifibre (I'm from Paris, France and the brand is pushing hard since the Lacoste takeover) so I tried the new Tfight XTC range. The 98sq 300g is a very good stick, but too stiff (69RA I think).
I don't know how I came across the Angell brand but I ended reading this thread and finally buying the TC 95. I've only hit once with it, yesterday, and despite my injured shoulder (thks pure aero), I hit my best DHBH for ages, powerful yet very precise. FH was good, but didn't want to hit too hard to preserve my shoulder but it looks promising.
Can't comment on serve, but overall very pleased with the TC95. Coming from a 100sq background, I didn't feel any problem to adjust to the 95sq. Let's see how it plays out on a competitive game, though.
Balance makes this stick very powerful, strung with silvering 17 at 48lbs, I might go with a higher tension. I like the fact that you have to actually hit hard to tame the power, hitting too relaxed made the ball flying.
Maybe try RS Lyon as it's a more muted string from what I've read?

Anyhow, thanks to all of you for the great inputs through the almost 400 pages ( didn't read all ;-))
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Hi !! I'm a new family member !
Just bought through the classifieds (thks TW!) a TC 95 V2 300g and 32,5cm (16x19), and what a stick !! I started playing again last September after 15 years off, and I have a lot of trouble finding what would be my main racquet.
Tried Pure Aero, very arm unfriendly, impossible to get even a minimal access to control, I was forced to play with the handbrake on, what a nightmare.
Then I went to the other end of the spectrum with the Tour 100P, good stick, but lacks character.
My Tennis club has a deal with Tecnifibre (I'm from Paris, France and the brand is pushing hard since the Lacoste takeover) so I tried the new Tfight XTC range. The 98sq 300g is a very good stick, but too stiff (69RA I think).
I don't know how I came across the Angell brand but I ended reading this thread and finally buying the TC 95. I've only hit once with it, yesterday, and despite my injured shoulder (thks pure aero), I hit my best DHBH for ages, powerful yet very precise. FH was good, but didn't want to hit too hard to preserve my shoulder but it looks promising.
Can't comment on serve, but overall very pleased with the TC95. Coming from a 100sq background, I didn't feel any problem to adjust to the 95sq. Let's see how it plays out on a competitive game, though.
Balance makes this stick very powerful, strung with silvering 17 at 48lbs, I might go with a higher tension. I like the fact that you have to actually hit hard to tame the power, hitting too relaxed made the ball flying.
Maybe try RS Lyon as it's a more muted string from what I've read?

Anyhow, thanks to all of you for the great inputs through the almost 400 pages ( didn't read all ;-))
Silverstring is nice but not a poly with good levels of control. I use 16g Tierone Black Night @48lbs and i have very nice control
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Ok, I can’t really confirm or deny that the pallet on TC has a significant gap. I’m obviously not going to take off one of my leathers grips to check :D
However a molded handle means that they literally put a mold on the racquet and pour in the material in this cylinder like mold. Once the material dries, they take this mold off and what’s left is this hardened poured handle. What I am looking at in the picture looks like a clam shell pallet and does not look like a molded handle. So I am not sure what’s going on here?? Are they installing this pallet differently or what? But it doesn’t make sense to install pallets in two different ways on prebuilt or custom unless I am missing something that would make sense in the manufacturing process.
Yes unfortunatly Paul has decided to go a different route with the K7 series (and probably also with the new asl). The Pallets are now being molded/glued on the hairpin. Meaning it is not possible to change them. Also on the K7 series Paul only offers the B type grip.

On the custom series you can choose A,B or C Type Grip and change the pallets since these are not glued on there.

My guess is Paul got bored with people asking for other Pallets or people messing around with his rackets. And he might have had some problems with pallets or but caps coming loose. There is not even a trap door on the K7 lime, so that decreases our ability to customise the racket even more.
 

ChrisG

New User
Silverstring is nice but not a poly with good levels of control. I use 16g Tierone Black Night @48lbs and i have very nice control
I read that this is your main string for the TC95. It's almost impossible to order it from Europe, their european website looks dead. Is it a confortable string ?
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
I read that this is your main string for the TC95. It's almost impossible to order it from Europe, their european website looks dead. Is it a confortable string ?
I have bought them from European site recently. Arrived in few days, no issues.
Comfort was good in TC100, feel as well. But it became too powerful after 2 hours of play. However, gauge was thinner than Topspn uses.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Yes unfortunatly Paul has decided to go a different route with the K7 series (and probably also with the new asl). The Pallets are now being molded/glued on the hairpin. Meaning it is not possible to change them. Also on the K7 series Paul only offers the B type grip.

On the custom series you can choose A,B or C Type Grip and change the pallets since these are not glued on there.

My guess is Paul got bored with people asking for other Pallets or people messing around with his rackets. And he might have had some problems with pallets or but caps coming loose. There is not even a trap door on the K7 lime, so that decreases our ability to customise the racket even more.
Ok, so it is pallets but permanently fixed somehow...interesting.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I have bought them from European site recently. Arrived in few days, no issues.
Comfort was good in TC100, feel as well. But it became too powerful after 2 hours of play. However, gauge was thinner than Topspn uses.
Yeah, I used the same 1.28 gauge i use on TC95 and upped the tension from 48 to 53lbs and still wanted more control. TC100 is a beast
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
I think TC100 need most control oriented setup. Like SPPP, Silverstring, Black Code. Interesting finding was SPPP mains and Co-Focus crosses, played well, control was good, however, I'm constantly braking SPPP. :)
 

anfield

Semi-Pro
There is not even a trap door on the K7 lime, so that decreases our ability to customise the racket even more.
Yeah, I just got mine, not too fussed but it does state it on the website.

Edit:
Actually, you can open the trap door. Just need a small flat-head screwdriver. Not as easy as other brands, but it's there. Also, seems to be silicon in the handle.

 
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letplaytennis

Semi-Pro
So I bought the tc97 and love it.

Thinking about picking up a used tc95 330g that's 12hl, so it should play similar to my rf97a.

Can anyone give a comparison of the 97 and the 95?

Thank you
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
So I bought the tc97 and love it.

Thinking about picking up a used tc95 330g that's 12hl, so it should play similar to my rf97a.

Can anyone give a comparison of the 97 and the 95?

Thank you
Look for @SpinToWin his posts here. He tested both a while back. @Geoff also did. Both like the TC97 a lot.

I would advise you take a week of from work and read this whole topic. It is worth it. I own all Angells except the 105. I have tried so many rackets but keep coming back to Angell.
 

Username_

Hall of Fame
So I bought the tc97 and love it.

Thinking about picking up a used tc95 330g that's 12hl, so it should play similar to my rf97a.

Can anyone give a comparison of the 97 and the 95?

Thank you
The 97 is much more stable than the 95.
The 97 has a much lower launch angle than the 95.
The 97 is weaker than the 95 at same specs.

The 95 swings a little faster than the 97.
The 95 launch angle is comparable to a Babolat Pure Aero
 
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topspn

Hall of Fame
I had an hour hit with a buddy this morning with ASL3 333.8g, 6.5HL and BBO@48lbs. Damned now we’re talking :) The extra weight certainly brings this frame alive for me. I don’t think anyone is gonna need to hit bigger then this baby so power on tap is very generous. And the sweet spot which also felt generous so a forgiving hit for sure. It smacks a serve big and felt comfortable on my OHBH. Even slice seemed easy and didn’t require anything special on my part. Very comfy, I had zero issues there and BBO is not exactly a comfort string. Feel is good as well and a flex that is in between the 63 and 70RA. This has a shot of being my favorite 100 in the Angel line :cool:
 

Subaruvich

Semi-Pro
I had an hour hit with a buddy this morning with ASL3 333.8g, 6.5HL and BBO@48lbs. Damned now we’re talking :) The extra weight certainly brings this frame alive for me. I don’t think anyone is gonna need to hit bigger then this baby so power on tap is very generous. And the sweet spot which also felt generous so a forgiving hit for sure. It smacks a serve big and felt comfortable on my OHBH. Even slice seemed easy and didn’t require anything special on my part. Very comfy, I had zero issues there and BBO is not exactly a comfort string. Feel is good as well and a flex that is in between the 63 and 70RA. This has a shot of being my favorite 100 in the Angel line :cool:
If I’m not mistaken your ASL has grip size #3, but your TC95’s grip size #4?
Is it true size #3 the grip on ASL or it runs little bigger?


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haqq777

Legend
I had an hour hit with a buddy this morning with ASL3 333.8g, 6.5HL and BBO@48lbs. Damned now we’re talking :) The extra weight certainly brings this frame alive for me. I don’t think anyone is gonna need to hit bigger then this baby so power on tap is very generous. And the sweet spot which also felt generous so a forgiving hit for sure. It smacks a serve big and felt comfortable on my OHBH. Even slice seemed easy and didn’t require anything special on my part. Very comfy, I had zero issues there and BBO is not exactly a comfort string. Feel is good as well and a flex that is in between the 63 and 70RA. This has a shot of being my favorite 100 in the Angel line :cool:
:eek::oops:
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
The 97 is much more stable than the 95.
The 97 has a much lower launch angle than the 95.
The 97 is weaker than the 95 at same specs.

The 95 swings faster than the 97.
The 95 launch angle is comparable to a Babolat Pure Aero
How about the sweet zone and forgiveness?
 

macguyvur

Rookie
I had an hour hit with a buddy this morning with ASL3 333.8g, 6.5HL and BBO@48lbs. Damned now we’re talking :) The extra weight certainly brings this frame alive for me. I don’t think anyone is gonna need to hit bigger then this baby so power on tap is very generous. And the sweet spot which also felt generous so a forgiving hit for sure. It smacks a serve big and felt comfortable on my OHBH. Even slice seemed easy and didn’t require anything special on my part. Very comfy, I had zero issues there and BBO is not exactly a comfort string. Feel is good as well and a flex that is in between the 63 and 70RA. This has a shot of being my favorite 100 in the Angel line :cool:
Oh boy. Another real contender it sounds like. So, feel on ASL3 versus TC 95 and K7Red? Does it feel like evolution of the V3 foam filled customs?
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Oh boy. Another real contender it sounds like. So, feel on ASL3 versus TC 95 and K7Red? Does it feel like evolution of the V3 foam filled customs?
The Clash did not bring me any revolution but ASL3 far outshines it and more revolutionary. Feel is a bit different from the V3 TC line probably due to the flex in between 63 and 70 and reaction from the siloxane.
 
How would you compare the comfort between the two? I’ve heard varying things about the clash - some people say it plays stiff despite the flexibility and others say it’s comfier than the ultra tour...
 
How does the ASL3 compare to the tc100? I’ve got a modded tc100 that a buddy loves hitting with and is considering trying to pick one of those up or a K7 red, but wondering if an ASL might be a better fit.


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topspn

Hall of Fame
How does the ASL3 compare to the tc100? I’ve got a modded tc100 that a buddy loves hitting with and is considering trying to pick one of those up or a K7 red, but wondering if an ASL might be a better fit.


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Lol you are providing very little to go on here. I hit the ASL for an hour stock then modified to 334g/6.5HL. After I added the weight it most certainly deserves a look. So if you’re willing to take one persons opinion whose hit with it for an hour then be my guest :laughing:
 

Paulo Braz

Semi-Pro
Last times I only played with my K7 Lime as I indeed try to switch.

The K7 Lime has the perfect headsize to me and it plays very similar as the TC95 18m regarding ball launch and directional control.

Both frames have a different feel. The TC95 has that satisfied solid feel with a twack sound because of the foam filled construction whereas the K7 Lime has a more muted vibration free touch/feel that reminds me of the Völkl C10 Pro. No coincidence as these frames have a graphite/kevlar composition.

I am not sure which feel I prefer. Honestly I miss that solid twack of the TC95 a little bit but I am getting more and more used to the feel of the K7. In stock condition the K7 is not as heavy and solid as my TC95 but after I customized my K7 with lead it feels solid enough and stll very maneuverable to me.

The K7 Lime just plays so much easier than the TC95 as it is much more maneuverable and more forgiven. I noticed that I am able to hit half volleys successful more often than with my TC95. The touch of the K7 is just great!

My only minor issue is that the grip size 3 feels slightly too small to me. Even if I amply overlap my overgrip as it'll shrink after a few hours of play.
I want to try a grip 4 but I am not sure if the K7 Lime can be replaced.
I agree with you. The Lime K7 is more forgiving than my tc95 16x19. I miss the power and spin that tc95 provides, especially of the spin, which at some point is missing. I like to play with 2, I do not have a favorite lol.

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topspn

Hall of Fame
How is the new Oehms one compared to one of yore? Is the new material really that different?
I think it is a bit different so it is not that calf skin but in order to give the new one some feel and tack they textured it a bit. It seems good to me and bevels feel nice. It is not heavily padded and cushy like some other leather grips like prince or Volkl but that works for me
 

haqq777

Legend
I think it is a bit different so it is not that calf skin but in order to give the new one some feel and tack they textured it a bit. It seems good to me and bevels feel nice. It is not heavily padded and cushy like some other leather grips like prince or Volkl but it works for me
Cool. Is it lighter and flimsier than previous one then? Also are you going au naturel or will you be using overgrip over it?
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Cool. Is it lighter and flimsier than previous one then? Also are you going au naturel or will you be using overgrip over it?
Untrimmed it still come out a bit over 28g. I did stretch it as I wrapped it so once trimmed it came to 23g. I will still use my normal super grap OG
 

Mlenk

Rookie
I've been using the 6.1 95 18x20 for a few years but i was thinking of trying out the TC 95 18x20 using the heaviest customizable option (330 grams 10pt HL). Anyone here know how that would compare feel wise and power? Also, those RA spec choices (70 or 63) I'm assuming are unstrung? So strung up it would go down in RA correct?
 
I know this is a long shot but I'll still ask. I am wondering if any of you who have hit with the K7 Lime have also played with the Boris Becker 11 MP 18/20? That is my current stick of choice but am only down to 2 of them now and looking for a future replacement. My sticks are both 346g with YPTS 50/46 with OG and damp. I know I would for sure add weight at noon or 10 and 2. But I'm curious about the string spacing differences from my racket. Anyhow, anything may help.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I've been using the 6.1 95 18x20 for a few years but i was thinking of trying out the TC 95 18x20 using the heaviest customizable option (330 grams 10pt HL). Anyone here know how that would compare feel wise and power? Also, those RA spec choices (70 or 63) I'm assuming are unstrung? So strung up it would go down in RA correct?
It has been a really long time since I’ve hit with the 6.1 and it was just a demo so I truly can’t make a good comparison between the two. I still think the TC95 is the more forgiving stick and has better power. The TC95 is a pretty special frame in either string configuration. It serves amazingly well and volleys with put away power or touch. The new V3 are also an improvement in feel so hopefully if you decide to get one you’ll enjoy it too.
 

anfield

Semi-Pro
Lithuanians and their country houses
My ex is from Vilnius, so many pictures of the lakehouse on her FB. Watched "The Other Dream Team" with her and her friends, they cried at the end. Required watching.

Also had first full hit with K7 Lime today. At 355g, 32cm, Gosen AK Pro (waiting for VS Team in the mail) mains @57lbs, Max Power Rough 18 crosses @47 lbs on a hand crank machine. I really had to take a full cut to keep it in but I also had a serious tailwind. With my similar spec Duel G and Tour G with Champions Choice I don't have to go through the ball as much, seems really important with the 18x20. But I was crushing the forehand, very intoxicating. The OHBD was not as lethal as with the Yonex, but it was grooving more after two hours.

Volleys were great, pickups and half volleys, when the ball was at a low velocity, did not work out as great, is does not pop off the strings like the Yonex. It was also 45 degrees, but the Yonex reacted better with those shots. Slice was almost as good when doing normal underspin, but not on par when carving sidespin. Probably because the hoop is a lot more stable. I guess it's a trade off, but the Lime swings so much easier than the Yonex, it does not feel feel it's weight when slicing through the air. I did not attempt to serve in the because of the wind.

The Lime does not feel as connected as the Yonex, not as much feedback and that organic '90s graphite feel. I kind dubbed it a "NASA feel," I can't say I've hit anything like it, but it's a very nice feeling, very comfy and prolly better for my arm, that Twaron is doing it's job, that "Head feel" feel people go on about.

I'm new to the 18x20 world, 16x20 is what I'm used to, but this blows away the UT and PPMP I recently demoed. The UT is just round and awkward feeling, the PPMP feels too plasticky. I'd say Paul has a runaway hit with this Lime. Shame the K7 Red I tried (first batch) was really flimsy and did not take weight well. Also the string pattern looks like a Belgian waffle.

Also, I posted earlier, the is a trap door, just need to use a small flathead to get it off. There is silicon in there, almost to the end, but enough room to put a bit of putty if needed. Cap pops right back on, not as easy as normal trap door, but it's there.

Any recommendations to get more pop/reaction with pickups/half volleys? Should I go down on my gut mains, 52 lbs, 46 Max Power Rough 18g crosses? Or go even thinner with my crosses? Hyper G comes in 20g.

Edit: just got specs from @saleem for mgr/i. So I'm at 21 with 351g 32cm and 336 SW. Thanks for that. Can anyone make the snow go away now?
 
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topspn

Hall of Fame
My ex is from Vilnius, so many pictures of the lakehouse on her FB. Watched "The Other Dream Team" with her and her friends, they cried at the end. Required watching.

Also had first full hit with K7 Lime today. At 355g, 32cm, Gosen AK Pro (waiting for VS Team in the mail) mains @57lbs, Max Power Rough 18 crosses @47 lbs on a hand crank machine. I really had to take a full cut to keep it in but I also had a serious tailwind. With my similar spec Duel G and Tour G with Champions Choice I don't have to go through the ball as much, seems really important with the 18x20. But I was crushing the forehand, very intoxicating. The OHBD was not as lethal as with the Yonex, but it was grooving more after two hours.

Volleys were great, pickups and half volleys, when the ball was at a low velocity, did not work out as great, is does not pop off the strings like the Yonex. It was also 45 degrees, but the Yonex reacted better with those shots. Slice was almost as good when doing normal underspin, but not on par when carving sidespin. Probably because the hoop is a lot more stable. I guess it's a trade off, but the Lime swings so much easier than the Yonex, it does not feel feel it's weight when slicing through the air. I did not attempt to serve in the because of the wind.

The Lime does not feel as connected as the Yonex, not as much feedback and that organic '90s graphite feel. I kind dubbed it a "NASA feel," I can't say I've hit anything like it, but it's a very nice feeling, very comfy and prolly better for my arm, that Twaron is doing it's job, that "Head feel" feel people go on about.

I'm new to the 18x20 world, 16x20 is what I'm used to, but this blows away the UT and PPMP I recently demoed. The UT is just round and awkward feeling, the PPMP feels too plasticky. I'd say Paul has a runaway hit with this Lime. Shame the K7 Red I tried (first batch) was really flimsy and did not take weight well. Also the string pattern looks like a Belgian waffle.

Also, I posted earlier, the is a trap door, just need to use a small flathead to get it off. There is silicon in there, almost to the end, but enough room to put a bit of putty if needed. Cap pops right back on, not as easy as normal trap door, but it's there.

Any recommendations to get more pop/reaction with pickups/half volleys? Should I go down on my gut mains, 52 lbs, 46 Max Power Rough 18g crosses? Or go even thinner with my crosses? Hyper G comes in 20g.
I would say yes, loosen up the string a bit! I still think 16x19 with 8 mains in the throat is the perfect configuration but I tried with Paul and so far no cigar
 
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