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whodat13

New User
coming from a Technifibre TFlash 300 PS modified with leather grip and 2 grams at 12, 2 grams 2/10 and liking the demo from the Dunlop CV 3.0 (bumblebee racquet), what do you guys think about a V3 RA70 100 310/315 (9 point headlight)?
 

markus666

Rookie
coming from a Technifibre TFlash 300 PS modified with leather grip and 2 grams at 12, 2 grams 2/10 and liking the demo from the Dunlop CV 3.0 (bumblebee racquet), what do you guys think about a V3 RA70 100 310/315 (9 point headlight)?
both rackets you mention have a lower SW, i couldn´t play with the TC100 63RA, it was too much SW for me. Maye TC100 70RA has lower SW as mentioned, but you might also consider new ACL if you want something similar made by Angell.
 

whodat13

New User
@topspn I was considering between the two. with the V3 100, Paul would have done most of the customization. With the ASL 3, I would have to tweak it more. Can you compare the power? I also have a Custom Angell 97 320/305 with some lead in the head areas to make the racquet weigh 343 gm. It serves and volley better than the TF 300
 

topspn

Legend
@topspn I was considering between the two. with the V3 100, Paul would have done most of the customization. With the ASL 3, I would have to tweak it more. Can you compare the power? I also have a Custom Angell 97 320/305 with some lead in the head areas to make the racquet weigh 343 gm. It serves and volley better than the TF 300
Power is very similar and it really just comes down to weight and balance choices.
 

whodat13

New User
Power is very similar and it really just comes down to weight and balance choices.
Power is very similar and it really just comes down to weight and balance choices.
I noticed that you had to alter your ASL 3 somewhat. With the V3 100 310/315 (9 pts), I would not have to do much except to add a little weight at 12, 3/9 and an overgrip to get to the weight I want. I would probably have to add more to the ASL 3 since it only comes 295 gm and 6 points HL
 

saleem

Semi-Pro
I noticed that you had to alter your ASL 3 somewhat. With the V3 100 310/315 (9 pts), I would not have to do much except to add a little weight at 12, 3/9 and an overgrip to get to the weight I want. I would probably have to add more to the ASL 3 since it only comes 295 gm and 6 points HL
altering is personal preference, no one should copy the other person how they have altered their rackets, we all have different strokes, height and the way we grip the racket, best thing to do is buy the best suited racket to your game, test play and do small mods at a time till it becomes what our game needs.
 

whodat13

New User
I have my personal preferences as what works for me may not work for someone else. I am just stating that with the V3 100, I would not have to modify as much as the ASL 3 since the latter only comes in 295/6 point HL.
 

topspn

Legend
I have my personal preferences as what works for me may not work for someone else. I am just stating that with the V3 100, I would not have to modify as much as the ASL 3 since the latter only comes in 295/6 point HL.
Yes, naturally you’d have to modify the ASL3 more but truly not a big deal. Add a leather grip, some weight in the hoop based on you preferences and weight at 7” spot and you’re good to go.
 

whodat13

New User
Another question--The ASL is RA 66 and the V3 I am looking at is RA 70. If you have hit with both, does the V3 feel stiffer or are they about the same?
FYI, I am not a fan of a flimsy upper loop
 

saleem

Semi-Pro
I have my personal preferences as what works for me may not work for someone else. I am just stating that with the V3 100, I would not have to modify as much as the ASL 3 since the latter only comes in 295/6 point HL.
strung and with overgrip it might go close to 4 hl (depending on the strings)
 

topspn

Legend
Another question--The ASL is RA 66 and the V3 I am looking at is RA 70. If you have hit with both, does the V3 feel stiffer or are they about the same?
FYI, I am not a fan of a flimsy upper loop
You have to remember the TC100 is quoted a 70RA as a hair pin. The ASL has a quoted RA 66 with handle and grip already on. Anyway, noting flimsy about ASL or for that matter the 63RA frames
 

whodat13

New User
Thanks. When you said 70RA as a hair pin, does that mean with handle and grip it will become softer or more stiff? Sorry I don't understand what that terminology ultimately mean.
 

topspn

Legend
Thanks. When you said 70RA as a hair pin, does that mean with handle and grip it will become softer or more stiff? Sorry I don't understand what that terminology ultimately mean.
Sorry, it means once a frame gets the handle added and a grip it will measure at a lower RA then when you string it will again measure a bit lower.
 

Username_

Hall of Fame
Another question--The ASL is RA 66 and the V3 I am looking at is RA 70. If you have hit with both, does the V3 feel stiffer or are they about the same?
FYI, I am not a fan of a flimsy upper loop
Don't worry about the RA if you're worried about a flimsy upper hoop.
RA is more likely to affect how it feels when you make contact with the ball on the swing more than anything else e.g the feel of a wilson pro staff 95 (62RA) vs your tc97(apparently drops 4 points from 66 --> 62). both have similar RA but feel completely different on contact with the ball.
I usually can handle a racquet with a SW of up to 330
All Angell rackets at standard 27" length will have a SW of 330 or less when strung up.
@topspn I was considering between the two. with the V3 100, Paul would have done most of the customization. With the ASL 3, I would have to tweak it more. I also have a Custom Angell 97 320/305 with some lead in the head areas to make the racquet weigh 343 gm
Get the TC100.

Sticking 25 grams of lead tape to the 295g ASL isn't ideal to get it to the same weight as your TC97 320 grams. It would be a pain in the rear, as well as having to mess around with the placement of it on the handle to achieve the 305mm balance your TC97 has in stock form. On top of that, you'd require additional lead tape in the upper hoop to raise the SW to 330. That's almost 10 feet of lead tape in total
 
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Here is a review posted in the official Clash thread - the clash has been really hyped and I compared with my new TC100 v3, so there might be some interesting in this great thread too:


Got a Clash Tour demo, 331g strung (sensation) OG and damper, 316 balance. Looking forward to hitting and comparing to TC100 v3 63RA, 330g strung, OG and damper, 320 Balance.

Here is a mini review of the Clash Tour and compared to Angell TC100

I have been reading about this frame, and have been very exited to try it out for myself. The frame has gotten mixed reviews and I now I know why.

Arm friendly: The frame is for sure arm friendly, no doubt about that. I can confirm what other players has told, the frame stiffens up when you hit harder. I also noticed vibration when hitting the ball outside the sweet spot and high in the stringbed. These vibrations does not seem to bother my sensitive arm.

Groundstrokes: This is for sure a weird frame to play. I could not get any consistency, my forehand would either be too short or too long, I could not get the depth I wanted as I felt the frame worked against me. Power was either too little or too much, I could not consistant power. Feel was weird too. Going back to the TC100 was a breeze, solid and great where the Clash Tour would be flimsy.

Serve: Way off with the Clash

Returns: Clash lack the stability of the TC100

This racquet is for sure not for me. I like racquets where I get a consistant respons, where I can trust my strokes. The Clash seems to have a mind of its own.

To me the Angell TC100 is superior in every way.

Consistancy: TC100 > Clash Tour (I can also struggle with consistency with the TC100 but compared to Clash it is way better)
Power: TC100 > Clash Tour (TC100 way more powerfull than Clash Tour)
Stability: TC100 > Clash Tour (TC100 is rock solid when up against hard hitters, Clash needs stability IMO)
Feel: TC100 > Clash Tour (No contest)
Spin: TC100 > Clash Tour (both are ok, but with TC100 I can add spin and flatten out strokes, Clash is problematic in this department)
Comfort: TC100 > Clash Tour (Clash Tour is very soft, but I felt the comfort of the TC100 is better)

Conclusion: To me the Clash Tour is Hype, no groundbreaking technology IMO, and does not meet my expectation of a good frame.

I lent the Clash to a friend, a 5.5+/6.0 players to try it out, he hit with the frame for 10 min and could not keep any balls inside the court, so decently not for advanced players.

I am sure this will be a good frame for some players, but if you have a fairly good game and like control this racquet does not fill that void.

I am sorry for this bad review, but I was simply very disappointed after reading all the good stuff about the frame here on TT. I guess the real conclusion is that you really have to try it out for yourself.

Cheers, Toby
 

topspn

Legend
Don't worry about the RA if you're worried about a flimsy upper hoop.
RA is more likely to affect how it feels when you make contact with the ball on the swing more than anything else e.g the feel of a wilson pro staff 95 (62RA) vs your tc97(apparently drops 4 points from 66 --> 62). both have similar RA but feel completely different on contact with the ball.

All Angell rackets at standard 27" length will have a SW of 330 or less when strung up.

Get the TC100.

Sticking 25 grams of lead tape to the 295g ASL isn't ideal to get it to the same weight as your TC97 320 grams. It would be a pain in the rear, as well as having to mess around with the placement of it on the handle to achieve the 305mm balance your TC97 has in stock form. On top of that, you'd require additional lead tape in the upper hoop to raise the SW to 330. That's almost 10 feet of lead tape in total
He wants a TC100 310g/9HL so add to ASL a leather grip a couple of grams tungsten in the head and a couple at 7” and you’re there ;)
 

whodat13

New User
Was recently on Facebook with Angell. V3 100 310/315 RA 70 unstrung has a SW of 295. With strings it comes to be 325 SW.
ASL 3 has an unstrung SW of 285. With strings it would be 315. After adding leather (no change in SW but makes racquet more HL) and 3 grams to head the SW and overalls weight is similar.
The question now comes down to which racquet would be more powerful and which cosmetic looks better—blue/gray or black/copper.
BTW thanks for all the inputs so far.
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
Here is a review posted in the official Clash thread - the clash has been really hyped and I compared with my new TC100 v3, so there might be some interesting in this great thread too:





Here is a mini review of the Clash Tour and compared to Angell TC100

I have been reading about this frame, and have been very exited to try it out for myself. The frame has gotten mixed reviews and I now I know why.

Arm friendly: The frame is for sure arm friendly, no doubt about that. I can confirm what other players has told, the frame stiffens up when you hit harder. I also noticed vibration when hitting the ball outside the sweet spot and high in the stringbed. These vibrations does not seem to bother my sensitive arm.

Groundstrokes: This is for sure a weird frame to play. I could not get any consistency, my forehand would either be too short or too long, I could not get the depth I wanted as I felt the frame worked against me. Power was either too little or too much, I could not consistant power. Feel was weird too. Going back to the TC100 was a breeze, solid and great where the Clash Tour would be flimsy.

Serve: Way off with the Clash

Returns: Clash lack the stability of the TC100

This racquet is for sure not for me. I like racquets where I get a consistant respons, where I can trust my strokes. The Clash seems to have a mind of its own.

To me the Angell TC100 is superior in every way.

Consistancy: TC100 > Clash Tour (I can also struggle with consistency with the TC100 but compared to Clash it is way better)
Power: TC100 > Clash Tour (TC100 way more powerfull than Clash Tour)
Stability: TC100 > Clash Tour (TC100 is rock solid when up against hard hitters, Clash needs stability IMO)
Feel: TC100 > Clash Tour (No contest)
Spin: TC100 > Clash Tour (both are ok, but with TC100 I can add spin and flatten out strokes, Clash is problematic in this department)
Comfort: TC100 > Clash Tour (Clash Tour is very soft, but I felt the comfort of the TC100 is better)

Conclusion: To me the Clash Tour is Hype, no groundbreaking technology IMO, and does not meet my expectation of a good frame.

I lent the Clash to a friend, a 5.5+/6.0 players to try it out, he hit with the frame for 10 min and could not keep any balls inside the court, so decently not for advanced players.

I am sure this will be a good frame for some players, but if you have a fairly good game and like control this racquet does not fill that void.

I am sorry for this bad review, but I was simply very disappointed after reading all the good stuff about the frame here on TT. I guess the real conclusion is that you really have to try it out for yourself.

Cheers, Toby
One of my partners for doubles brought Clash to try. I saw him hitting quite loopy shots, sound was terrific, frame was quite wide - so, I decided that it principally not for me, so I rejected event to try it.
 

saleem

Semi-Pro
Was recently on Facebook with Angell. V3 100 310/315 RA 70 unstrung has a SW of 295. With strings it comes to be 325 SW.
ASL 3 has an unstrung SW of 285. With strings it would be 315. After adding leather (no change in SW but makes racquet more HL) and 3 grams to head the SW and overalls weight is similar.
The question now comes down to which racquet would be more powerful and which cosmetic looks better—blue/gray or black/copper.
BTW thanks for all the inputs so far.
tc100 will be more powerful plus black copper looks great
 

MilanA

New User
Is it possible to estimate how much the sw will drop if you shorten an extended racquet?

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MilanA

New User
So...if i shorten my 347sw 27,5 inch tc100 to normal lenght it should be than under 330sw?

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esm

Hall of Fame
Quick q - what is the main difference between a 27” and a 27.25” length say TC100 63RA?
Never had an extended length racket, but have recently been entertained with the idea.

Also, has anyone tried the Angell Halo strings? The Halo 3 looks rather interesting as it would be a more comfortable string (I use fullbed of multi)

Thanks
 

whodat13

New User
Thanks for all the responses. I decided to pull the trigger on the V3 100 310/315(9 points HL). With strings and overgrip, the end weight should be around 330-340 depending on if I add a little weight to the head or not. This weight is right in my range. I also ordered a leather grip (the racquet has the pro hybrid) just in case I wanted more HL.
 

MCN

Rookie
I’d like some suggestions for modding my TC95 16x19 please. It’s 340g (strung) and was 9 pts HL (unstrung) when I got it. I love the balance and it’s great on ground strokes. Volleys are good if I attack them but I find that if I’m defensive with volleys (eg doubles, blocking hard drives), I struggle to get any depth (compared to other beefy racquets I’ve used, which manage to absorb the shock and punch the ball to the back of the court). I know it’s always a trade off, but would a bit of lead at 3&9 help a bit? I don’t want to slow the racquet down on ground strokes though, as I love that aspect, nor do I want to make the racquet too heavy.
 

stocchero

New User
I’d like some suggestions for modding my TC95 16x19 please. It’s 340g (strung) and was 9 pts HL (unstrung) when I got it. I love the balance and it’s great on ground strokes. Volleys are good if I attack them but I find that if I’m defensive with volleys (eg doubles, blocking hard drives), I struggle to get any depth (compared to other beefy racquets I’ve used, which manage to absorb the shock and punch the ball to the back of the court). I know it’s always a trade off, but would a bit of lead at 3&9 help a bit? I don’t want to slow the racquet down on ground strokes though, as I love that aspect, nor do I want to make the racquet too heavy.
I always struggle with lead 3&9 because I feel it slows down the head (compared with no added lead in the same racket, of course)

I think what can help you is finding if your racquet is too much depolarized (mgR/I) and then, if that is the case, just add weight in the top of your handle. This will give more plowthrough, that may compensate for a thinner beam in a flexible frame. And it won't change much your balance and swingweight (just the total weight). I would start adding 5 grams, above the grip, test, go up or down... Then, when you find if it works and how much needed, put it under the grip

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saleem

Semi-Pro
I’d like some suggestions for modding my TC95 16x19 please. It’s 340g (strung) and was 9 pts HL (unstrung) when I got it. I love the balance and it’s great on ground strokes. Volleys are good if I attack them but I find that if I’m defensive with volleys (eg doubles, blocking hard drives), I struggle to get any depth (compared to other beefy racquets I’ve used, which manage to absorb the shock and punch the ball to the back of the court). I know it’s always a trade off, but would a bit of lead at 3&9 help a bit? I don’t want to slow the racquet down on ground strokes though, as I love that aspect, nor do I want to make the racquet too heavy.
check your pm for checking your current balance
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
Thanks for all the responses. I decided to pull the trigger on the V3 100 310/315(9 points HL). With strings and overgrip, the end weight should be around 330-340 depending on if I add a little weight to the head or not. This weight is right in my range. I also ordered a leather grip (the racquet has the pro hybrid) just in case I wanted more HL.
Do not worry, you will like it. (y) I think 310/315 is a golden standard for this stick. I'm experimenting a bit with it. 310/320 swings effortless but too much power and kills my wrist a bit.
 

topspn

Legend
Dont you like lead at 3-9 or 10-2 for better stability? Swing faster at 11-1?
I wanted to effect twist weight a bit but also have a bit more impact on SW so that’s why i went with 10, 2. I generally don’t enjoy weight to much at 3&9. I think it makes the frame hit a bit more with blunt feel. I generally add weight @12 or 10/2 depending on frame.
 

Vapix

Rookie
Topspn, I also find the TC95 too open and I have a set of wilson revolve 1.30 or 1.35 don't remember, do you think it would play similar to prince tour xc?
 

topspn

Legend
Topspn, I also find the TC95 too open and I have a set of wilson revolve 1.30 or 1.35 don't remember, do you think it would play similar to prince tour xc?
Well they are both round polys medium firm so yeah it should be fairly close. Try it out and let us know! Hope you have the 1.35 so you can see how it tightens pattern just a tiny bit
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm getting my V3 TC97 16x19 later today, and I'm just wondering, does anyone have the stringing specs?

I'll be doing a two piece job, per my normal hybrid setup.

Thanks!
 

Eiki Saito

New User
That is TC95 on the right with 1.35 gauge poly

Hi topspn,

I saw that you use “powerpads” in your tc95...

What’s the advantage of powerpads at tc95?

Why do you use 135 string gauge? (Because do you want better string life)

Tks

Eiki




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