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haqq777

Legend
How well do they do matching frames? If you order 1 and come back to order more, will they be the same?
Specs of every racquet produced are in Paul's database. You will notice a small sticker inside throat with a unique number. You can request specs to match and provide that unique number even if you purchase your other stick months later.

I have three matched V3 TC97 18x20 currently and a bunch of other Angells. Never had an issue with matching specs.

Angells are the only sticks which actually swing and feel identical, in my experience. I have HEAD Speed Pros, Pro Staffs and even a couple of Prince Phantom 93P which are similar in weight and balance but don't feel identical when playing.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
Specs of every racquet produced are in Paul's database. You will notice a small sticker inside throat with a unique number. You can request specs to match and provide that unique number even if you purchase your other stick months later.
Does this also count for the K7? I can't find any sticker with a number on my K7 Lime. Yesterday night I ordered my second one (without any comments). I hope I'll receive one with the same specs as my first one.
 

haqq777

Legend
Does this also count for the K7? I can't find any sticker with a number on my K7 Lime. Yesterday night I ordered my second one (without any comments). I hope I'll receive one with the same specs as my first one.
Good point. I am not sure about K7. I don't see a sticker on my K7 either. I think the stickers are only for Custom lines perhaps. My V2 and V3 TC line racquets all have them on the inside of throat towards the handle.
 
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krikamons

New User
The TC97 16x19, TC95 16x19, and K7 Red all use the same replacement grommets... which means the string patterns are identical. Therefore, the launch angles should be fairly similar.

As for the weighting issue... have you tried using the sleeves that Angell sells? The TC95 63RA 16x19 that I got from the bay had them on already, and I found the racquet to be very stable. As they are about 1.5g and spread over that larger area, I find they don't make the racquet too heavy. Also, what are the starting specs of your TC95?

Thanks. For some reason unknown to me they play differently in my hands despite using the same grommets

That might be a good idea to try the sleeves. I ve been using tungsten tape which is the opposite - lots of weight over small area so ive been putting some little patches at 3.30 and 5 and the same on yhe other side.

The starting specs were 320g and 10pts hl. But that was with the hybrid grip which i have swapped for babolat skin feel - that would have shaved a few g off

Should have gone for a more head heavy balance perhaps.
 

Paulo Braz

Semi-Pro
Specs of every racquet produced are in Paul's database. You will notice a small sticker inside throat with a unique number. You can request specs to match and provide that unique number even if you purchase your other stick months later.

I have three matched V3 TC97 18x20 currently and a bunch of other Angells. Never had an issue with matching specs.

Angells are the only sticks which actually swing and feel identical, in my experience. I have HEAD Speed Pros, Pro Staffs and even a couple of Prince Phantom 93P which are similar in weight and balance but don't feel identical when playing.
What do you think of the 93p phantom compared to tc97?

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haqq777

Legend
What do you think of the 93p phantom compared to tc97?

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The 93P is a great mid, probably best in the market. It plays a bit bigger than 93 square inch head size. It is quick through the air, maneuverable at net and hits very solid.

For construction, it is very thin beamed so feel and touch are excellent. Very low launch angle compared to TC97. Also 93P feels more traditional whereas TC97 is a more modern. The 93P, in my opinion, a great stick for a predominantly doubles player looking for touch, feel and volleying.

I feel more comfortable with my TC97 though. I hav gotten used to Angell head shape (Prince Phantoms are very round). The TC 97 have the right combo of balance, comfort, power and forgiveness. That is not to say 93P is a bad racquet. The Phantoms are a great line offered by Prince. But I just think my Angells are a better fit for me.
 

esm

Semi-Pro
Specs of every racquet produced are in Paul's database. You will notice a small sticker inside throat with a unique number. You can request specs to match and provide that unique number even if you purchase your other stick months later.
My TC100 has a “serial number” with the black/grey coloured Union Jack flag next to the spec, including the RA spec. My TC95 does not the a serial number and it has blue/red coloured Union Jack next to the spec and it does not have the RA spec. My K7 Red does not have a serial number.

Could the black/grey coloured Union Jack version be the later version and the blue/red coloured Union Jack be the first/earlier version?

So, in the case of the TC95, how do I tell Paul if I like another with similar spec, especially the swing weight?
 

haqq777

Legend
My TC100 has a “serial number” with the black/grey coloured Union Jack flag next to the spec, including the RA spec. My TC95 does not the a serial number and it has blue/red coloured Union Jack next to the spec and it does not have the RA spec. My K7 Red does not have a serial number.

Could the black/grey coloured Union Jack version be the later version and the blue/red coloured Union Jack be the first/earlier version?

So, in the case of the TC95, how do I tell Paul if I like another with similar spec, especially the swing weight?
I don't think Union Jack color sticker plays a role, to be honest. I have blue/red colored Union Jack sticker on two of my V2 TC100 and they have the Angel Custom number sticker too.





Also, my V3 TC97 have black Union Jack sticker and they have the Angel Custom number sticker as well.





I do know that Paul is fantastic when listening to requests and if you talk to him before ordering, he can give you the exact stick you want.
 

esm

Semi-Pro
I don't think Union Jack color sticker plays a role, to be honest. I have blue/red colored Union Jack sticker on two of my V2 TC100 and they have the Angel Custom number sticker too.
Cool, thank you for the photos. It looks like the number sticker for the TC95 must have fallen off on mine.
The V3 paint job looks so nice and tempting too.
 

t_pac

Rookie
Does this also count for the K7? I can't find any sticker with a number on my K7 Lime. Yesterday night I ordered my second one (without any comments). I hope I'll receive one with the same specs as my first one.
If you ordered from the same email address/shipping address I'm certain Paul will match your frames.

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what_army

Rookie
Hi, quick question regarding the vantage customs. Do you know whether the custom vantages have the same weight in handle under the pallet system as the angells? Thanks
 
I picked up a used Vantage 95 here on the forums and compared it to my trusty Yonex Ai98's (weighted up to about 350g). I could not seem to adjust to it. It might be a swing weight issue, but I never managed to find the control I was looking for, specifically with the launch angle. I felt like sometimes I'd get a high loopy ball, and sometimes I'd get more of a flat drive with what I thought was a similar swing. I had the racquet strung with Tier One Firewire Boost poly hybrid. I have used those strings in my Ai98's and had no issues with the launch angle. All I can figure is my stroke is not well-suited for the Vantage 95/TC95.

Needless to say, I have the Vantage 95 listed for sale/for trade. Please PM me if you're interested.
 

razuzin

New User
I currently have TC95 RA70 as my first racquet. Planning to order V3 with same/simliar specs.
Is it going to be similar enough to be able to switch from one stick to another during a match without much adjustment?

I love my TC95 for a perfect balance between power and comfort. If I could improve one thing though, it would be a bigger sweetspot.
Would V3 have a larger sweetspot vs. TC95, or is it about the same?

Thanks,
 

Vapix

New User
2 matchs (single&double) with Pro line evolution at 23/22kg on my TC95 16x19, so good!
Nice balance of power, spin & control also very confy!
 

kailash

Professional
I currently have TC95 RA70 as my first racquet. Planning to order V3 with same/simliar specs.
Is it going to be similar enough to be able to switch from one stick to another during a match without much adjustment?

I love my TC95 for a perfect balance between power and comfort. If I could improve one thing though, it would be a bigger sweetspot.
Would V3 have a larger sweetspot vs. TC95, or is it about the same?

Thanks,
Why not try TC100? Bigger sweetspot and more forgiving.
 

razuzin

New User
Why not try TC100? Bigger sweetspot and more forgiving.
I actually tried TC 100 Pro 16x19, 67RA, no longer sold from Angell website, which should be similar to TC100, I'd assume.
While it was comfortable and spin friendly, it didn't give me enough sharpness of TC95.
The difference was most noticeable when you go for a high precision shot.
 

stephenclown

Professional
What do you think of the 93p phantom compared to tc97?

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Like Haqq I used both for a while and I ended up the other direction. I have two matched 93Ps and find them to play basically the same. Mine were 295 unstrung swingweight and same static, lead at 12.

I feel that the TC97 is easier to play as it plays like the RF97 if it were more controlled. It just rolls through the ball with such ease, hits very controlled and without any inconsistencies. Very heavy balls and very difficult to be pushed around. Above shoulder still was a very clear winner with this frame. I found it to be a little cumbersome at times but it wasn't overly slow, I felt like this helped to control the ball. The feel was just so solid, so connected to the ball like racquets of old.

I use the 93P exclusively. I sold all my Angells and babolats. I find it cuts through the air so nicely, feels a little better due to the thin beam to me but not quite as solid. It's a more pronounced flex and is still stable enough, by no means a flimsy frame. Overall I find the 93P to be a very versatile racquet. This is my favourite frame after using the Pure Storm Ltd for so long. There are times where I feel the frame is too fast through the air though so I have to be careful being too late or too early. I don't have any issues with being defensive with this frame either, it hits slice so incredible well so there is nearly always a chance toto recover.

The one frame I played that can go head to head with the 93P is the TC90 but that frame is very demanding. I will probably pick up another one at some stage due to how well it serves and volleys and just controls points.
 

kailash

Professional
I actually tried TC 100 Pro 16x19, 67RA, no longer sold from Angell website, which should be similar to TC100, I'd assume.
While it was comfortable and spin friendly, it didn't give me enough sharpness of TC95.
The difference was most noticeable when you go for a high precision shot.
Ok. In TC95, maybe you cold try different sting combinations. Some gut/sy.gut/multi hybrid with poly should help.

Regarding V3, I don't think that there will be a difference in sweetspot size.
 

razuzin

New User
Ok. In TC95, maybe you cold try different sting combinations. Some gut/sy.gut/multi hybrid with poly should help.

Regarding V3, I don't think that there will be a difference in sweetspot size.
Thanks. So V3 would feel very similar to custom TC95 given same specs?

I 'm using a gut/poly hybrid Babolat VS Touch 16/Kirschbaum PL II 18 at 50/48 and pretty happy with it.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Thanks. So V3 would feel very similar to custom TC95 given same specs?

I 'm using a gut/poly hybrid Babolat VS Touch 16/Kirschbaum PL II 18 at 50/48 and pretty happy with it.
V3 just means Version 3 and applies to all the Custom models... so there is a V3 TC95 in both string patterns and RAs, a V3 TC97 in both string patterns and RAs, and so on, and so on. The difference to the previous TC95s is the paint color and how the resin was integrated during manufacturing.

So a V3 TC95 strung with a gut/poly hybrid of Babolat VS Touch 16 and Kirschbaum PL II 18 gauge, at 50/48 tension, would feel similar to previous TC95s of the same RA and string pattern (just a slight difference in SW between Version 3 (V3) and Versions 1 and 2), but obviously different to a V3 TC97.

The V3 versions of all the different Custom Models have a slightly lower RA... that's all...

I hope I've answered your question.
 

razuzin

New User
V3 just means Version 3 and applies to all the Custom models... so there is a V3 TC95 in both string patterns and RAs, a V3 TC97 in both string patterns and RAs, and so on, and so on. The difference to the previous TC95s is the paint color and how the resin was integrated during manufacturing.

So a V3 TC95 strung with a gut/poly hybrid of Babolat VS Touch 16 and Kirschbaum PL II 18 gauge, at 50/48 tension, would feel similar to previous TC95s of the same RA and string pattern (just a slight difference in SW between Version 3 (V3) and Versions 1 and 2), but obviously different to a V3 TC97.

The V3 versions of all the different Custom Models have a slightly lower RA... that's all...

I hope I've answered your question.
Yes, thank you, very helpful.
I guess I have the version 1 TC95 and planning to get identical specs V3.
Slightly lower RA is important as I wanted something more arm-friendly.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Yes, thank you, very helpful.
I guess I have the version 1 TC95 and planning to get identical specs V3.
Slightly lower RA is important as I wanted something more arm-friendly.
The RA between the versions has not changed. It's still either 63 or 70RA for the TC95, however, the V3 TC95 would have a slightly lower SW than your V1 TC95. If you were trying to say that you had a 70RA V1 TC95, and now you are planning to get a 63RA V3 TC95... then I understand (y)

Either way... all the best.
 

DriveKing

New User
Got my first Angell and man, I'm all about it.

Specs
Angell V3 TC97
18x20
320 grams
9 pts HL

Came from the Head Speed Pro 18x20 last year to using the Head Pro Tour 630 for 2 months, which I also love.

I feel like I can get better serves with my Angell, I can really pound the groundstrokes and it's ultra-comfy on my arm. Can't wait to get a second and third when I have a few bucks!
 

landcookie

New User
Does anyone have both TC100 in RA 63 and 70? Can anyone tell me if there is a difference in playability between the 2?

I currently own a 70 RA TC100 and am thinking of getting another one as a spare. If the 63 RA plays similar I might get that as an insurance policy for my elbow. Not that I get much grief from the 70 RA.

Thanks!
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
Got my first Angell and man, I'm all about it.

Specs
Angell V3 TC97
18x20
320 grams
9 pts HL

Came from the Head Speed Pro 18x20 last year to using the Head Pro Tour 630 for 2 months, which I also love.

I feel like I can get better serves with my Angell, I can really pound the groundstrokes and it's ultra-comfy on my arm. Can't wait to get a second and third when I have a few bucks!
Liking your specs although I might stick with 16/19; just wondering if, depending on what you've played with, you could comment on what other racquet(s) you think the power level of your TC97 might be commensurate with, like Wilson PS97, Wilson Ultra Tour, Pure Drive etc.? Thanks, JMac
 

Kurt0707

New User
Got my first Angell and man, I'm all about it.

Specs
Angell V3 TC97
18x20
320 grams
9 pts HL

Came from the Head Speed Pro 18x20 last year to using the Head Pro Tour 630 for 2 months, which I also love.

I feel like I can get better serves with my Angell, I can really pound the groundstrokes and it's ultra-comfy on my arm. Can't wait to get a second and third when I have a few bucks!
if you love Head PT630, you may also like K7 Lime which I use extensively, it has a more plush feeling than TC97, depends on the feel preference. I was thinking of trying TC97 18x20 but Paul said if I have the Lime, its pretty close in structure (even the same grommets I think) and he said i should try tc95 16x19.

They are all great products, but 16x19 versions very open for me and high launch angle for my game, may try to lower launch angle by customization in the future or for clay game. Also have TC95 18x20 but really havent used that much yet.
 

ChrisG

New User
if you love Head PT630, you may also like K7 Lime which I use extensively, it has a more plush feeling than TC97, depends on the feel preference. I was thinking of trying TC97 18x20 but Paul said if I have the Lime, its pretty close in structure (even the same grommets I think) and he said i should try tc95 16x19.

They are all great products, but 16x19 versions very open for me and high launch angle for my game, may try to lower launch angle by customization in the future or for clay game. Also have TC95 18x20 but really havent used that much yet.
TC95 16x19 63RA is a wonderful racquet as long as your footwork is good. If not, you might start finding the 95sq a bit small haha. I've purchased a K7 red, in order to play it on those bad days, but I'm struggling with lead:
I'm almost good : 2g at 10 and 2g at 2, 1g at 12 makes a very stable and powerful enough racquet but a bit too slow. I removed the lead at 12 but then a flimsy feel appear...
I think I should try to get used to that extra SW from the 1g at 12, as I really like the feel.
I did't know that 1g would make such a difference in feel.
Any alternative setup folks ?
 

PigPen

Semi-Pro
TC95 16x19 63RA is a wonderful racquet as long as your footwork is good. If not, you might start finding the 95sq a bit small haha. I've purchased a K7 red, in order to play it on those bad days, but I'm struggling with lead:
I'm almost good : 2g at 10 and 2g at 2, 1g at 12 makes a very stable and powerful enough racquet but a bit too slow. I removed the lead at 12 but then a flimsy feel appear...
I think I should try to get used to that extra SW from the 1g at 12, as I really like the feel.
I did't know that 1g would make such a difference in feel.
Any alternative setup folks ?
Did you counterbalance the K7 red? What type of strings?
 

DriveKing

New User
Liking your specs although I might stick with 16/19; just wondering if, depending on what you've played with, you could comment on what other racquet(s) you think the power level of your TC97 might be commensurate with, like Wilson PS97, Wilson Ultra Tour, Pure Drive etc.? Thanks, JMac
Hey, I'm a 4.0 rec player as a baseline talking point here. I've hit with a bunch of racquets over the last couple years I really started to play tennis (going on 4 years picking up the sport besides messing around as a kid). I'd say in terms of the power level, it carries a little more thump than my 18x20 Wilson Blade I used for a few months last year. It's really stable and I feel like it has great plow through. As I get better, the racquet feels like an extension of my arm. I never get arm pain (knock on wood), I don't feel fatigued like I did when I tried the RF97 after a few sets & even though it's an 18x20, I can generate a lot of topspin when I need to (I don't hit overly hard topspin shots, but I can generate it).

In terms of the Pure Drive, for me felt it felt like that stick had extra pop but was a lot harder on my arm. Hope that helps...

I love my set-up. I actually tried to get it close to the Head Pro Tour 630/280, which is my favorite feeling racquet of all-time. The issue was, it didn't let me produce a ton of pop because of the weight. I think the Angell specced-out this way is kinda the perfect balance for me atm.
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
Hi Angell users. I am really compelled to demo the c shape equilateral grip
Is there anyone on here whom I can demo a racquet from. With preferably 1/2 or 3/8 grip size I would pay double the price of the shipping for the demo. ?? Thanks pm me.
 

Keoni068

Rookie
Hi all!

May I please ask for some advice and assistance? I’m going to pick up either a TC100 ra63, TC97 16x19 or K7 red, and I was hoping someone could compare them based on:

Control
Spin
Power
Comfort

I really like the Yonex VCore Pro 97 (310) for its control but it hurt my elbow/forearm, so I’m looking for something similar.

Thanks in advance!
 

Oldstorm

New User
I have a similar experience with the vcore pro 310. I’m assuming because of the huge weight difference between what I’m used to and the 330 might do you better.

In terms of angell I found the TC97 to be very similar
 

ChrisG

New User
Did you counterbalance the K7 red? What type of strings?
I did not counterbalance the K7, it's a good idea, but how much weight and where? under the buttcap?
I use Black Knight 1.25 at 23kg, as on my tc95. I like polys, and I think this stick benefits from a soft and powerful string so BK is not the issue here I guess

thanks for your help
 

Dansan

Rookie
Hey, I'm a 4.0 rec player as a baseline talking point here. I've hit with a bunch of racquets over the last couple years I really started to play tennis (going on 4 years picking up the sport besides messing around as a kid). I'd say in terms of the power level, it carries a little more thump than my 18x20 Wilson Blade I used for a few months last year. It's really stable and I feel like it has great plow through. As I get better, the racquet feels like an extension of my arm. I never get arm pain (knock on wood), I don't feel fatigued like I did when I tried the RF97 after a few sets & even though it's an 18x20, I can generate a lot of topspin when I need to (I don't hit overly hard topspin shots, but I can generate it).

In terms of the Pure Drive, for me felt it felt like that stick had extra pop but was a lot harder on my arm. Hope that helps...

I love my set-up. I actually tried to get it close to the Head Pro Tour 630/280, which is my favorite feeling racquet of all-time. The issue was, it didn't let me produce a ton of pop because of the weight. I think the Angell specced-out this way is kinda the perfect balance for me atm.

I have an austrian PT280 that I will never part with, agree with you that it's my most favored. I have a weighted up blade 98 that I play well with, and a an RF97 that I've tried as well for months to get use to. The RF97 is just a handful and I keep trying to gel with it...but it's not happening, mostly a lack of control and issues with fatigue after 1.5 hours in 90 degree heat. And the launch angle is just a bit high.

I've been looking for a slightly lighter version of the PT280 (mine is around 365g)....comfortable, flexible, 18x20, maybe around 6-7pts HL, a lot of feel/control, 98 sq in. I settled on a K7 lime, so add me to the list ! I'll maybe add a leather grip and a bit of lead to 12 or 3&9 to see if I can get that magical feel in a new stick....otherwise i'm stuck with buying 20+ year old heads
 

Keoni068

Rookie
I have a similar experience with the vcore pro 310. I’m assuming because of the huge weight difference between what I’m used to and the 330 might do you better.

In terms of angell I found the TC97 to be very similar
Thanks! Can anyone else share their experience between the TC100 ra63, TC97 16x19, and the K7 red?
 
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