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ace18

Professional
Thanks! Can anyone else share their experience between the TC100 ra63, TC97 16x19, and the K7 red?
I've had all 3 and currently own the TC100 and TC97. I liked the K7 (I think the second batch) but it wasn't stable enough for me. I couldn't find the right balance with lead tape so I ended up moving on. It was a great serving racquet from what I remember.

I used the TC100 63 RA for almost 2 years. I had mine customized from their original 300/325 to around 11.9 oz, 7 pts HL, SW ~337. It is/was a fantastic frame and I still have 2 in my bag and don't hesitate to use them at any time during a match. If my opponent lacks pace or the balls start getting flat from humidity, I will bring one of my TC100's out of my bag because its very stable and I can get lazy with it and hit a big ball

I've been using the TC97 16X19 310/315 for nearly 2 months now. Its a fantastic racquet. Doesn't hit as big a ball as the TC100 but is very precise and fast and allows me to really swing out on the ball. I have better serve pace with my TC100 but better spin with my TC97 and not a big loss of pace with it. Lower SW and more HL, I can really swing thru the hitting zone fast. I would say that my volleys are not quite as strong with the TC97 as the TC100 but I think that's more attributed to the weight and SW. I'm really enjoying the TC97, its been an easy switch. I also owned the TC95 16X19 and it was a fantastic racquet but I don't play enough to get used to the smaller head size. It was a great singles racquet for me but I'm 95% doubles. I could use the TC95 and TC100 pretty interchangeably in a match too.

Control. for me TC97 hands down. The TC100 provides good control too but the TC97 is better
Spin. The TC100 has a higher launch angle and I believe I get better spin with the 100 on deep shots. The TC97 is better for more controlled spin shots, think whipping short cross court angle shots or dipping balls at the net guys feet. I feel like I can hold the ball on my racquet better with the TC97. I also hit a lot of flat shots which favors the TC97 IMO.
Power. TC100 has more power but the TC97 still packs a good punch.
Comfort. they are both super comfy and I don't really notice a difference between the 2.
 

Keoni068

Rookie
I've had all 3 and currently own the TC100 and TC97. I liked the K7 (I think the second batch) but it wasn't stable enough for me. I couldn't find the right balance with lead tape so I ended up moving on. It was a great serving racquet from what I remember.

I used the TC100 63 RA for almost 2 years. I had mine customized from their original 300/325 to around 11.9 oz, 7 pts HL, SW ~337. It is/was a fantastic frame and I still have 2 in my bag and don't hesitate to use them at any time during a match. If my opponent lacks pace or the balls start getting flat from humidity, I will bring one of my TC100's out of my bag because its very stable and I can get lazy with it and hit a big ball

I've been using the TC97 16X19 310/315 for nearly 2 months now. Its a fantastic racquet. Doesn't hit as big a ball as the TC100 but is very precise and fast and allows me to really swing out on the ball. I have better serve pace with my TC100 but better spin with my TC97 and not a big loss of pace with it. Lower SW and more HL, I can really swing thru the hitting zone fast. I would say that my volleys are not quite as strong with the TC97 as the TC100 but I think that's more attributed to the weight and SW. I'm really enjoying the TC97, its been an easy switch. I also owned the TC95 16X19 and it was a fantastic racquet but I don't play enough to get used to the smaller head size. It was a great singles racquet for me but I'm 95% doubles. I could use the TC95 and TC100 pretty interchangeably in a match too.

Control. for me TC97 hands down. The TC100 provides good control too but the TC97 is better
Spin. The TC100 has a higher launch angle and I believe I get better spin with the 100 on deep shots. The TC97 is better for more controlled spin shots, think whipping short cross court angle shots or dipping balls at the net guys feet. I feel like I can hold the ball on my racquet better with the TC97. I also hit a lot of flat shots which favors the TC97 IMO.
Power. TC100 has more power but the TC97 still packs a good punch.
Comfort. they are both super comfy and I don't really notice a difference between the 2.

This is perfect!! Thank you so much. I think you’ve sold me on the TC97. Now, to find one a used one! Appreciate your time!
 
@Classic-TXP-IG MID Thanks for the response. I am thinking the same, but I was hoping to get a definitive answer. I am currently selling my Vantage 95, and the potential buyer asked me this very question.

Everything I’ve read says the Vantage 95 is the same mold as the current TC95, so the assumption is the grommets are interchangeable.
 

PigPen

Semi-Pro
I did not counterbalance the K7, it's a good idea, but how much weight and where? under the buttcap?
I use Black Knight 1.25 at 23kg, as on my tc95. I like polys, and I think this stick benefits from a soft and powerful string so BK is not the issue here I guess

thanks for your help
I replaced the the grip with leather, adding a bit of weight. If I were to counterbalance with lead, I would add at the top of the handle.
 

spottt

New User
I own a Tc95 70 ra, 310g/315mm. I love it.
But i need 3 raquects and Angell raquects never went on sale or any kind of discount. The tecnifibre 315 Ltd XTC seems very close in specs with my Tc95. I have heard that there are foram filled too. Do you think is a very valid option?
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
My usual suspects for spin - Black Code, Ultra Cable, Hyper-G, Focus-Hex. And for control - Silverstring, SPPP, SPPP/Co-Focus hybrid.
I like 1.25 gauge for TC100.
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
I do not like Cyclone personally. It is okay for me the very first hours. When it settles in - it becomes cheap plastic and stiff. But it is very personal, IMO.
 

landcookie

New User
I do not like Cyclone personally. It is okay for me the very first hours. When it settles in - it becomes cheap plastic and stiff. But it is very personal, IMO.
I see. I remembered trying cyclone a while ago on a PS97 and didn't like it, but will be giving it and the tour a go. So far I've dabbled with Tour bite and RPM but neither has stuck out. Rpm gave good control on full swings but felt harsh and gave me a bit of elbow grief :(
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
Another few options if you need softer and spiny string - Revolve Spin, Co-Focus (this one is rounded, however, spin is really good).
 

edelp

Rookie
Hi, I will be able to try tonight my new acquisition, the TC100 V3 63RA, and will do so with Dyreex Alu tour 1.25.
will then post my first impressions on the frame and on the fit frame / string...
will try this frame for sure as well with Eruption 1.24
Looking forward...
 

Sintherius

Rookie
Anybody else try out the Yonex Poly Tour Spin G? I’m up to about 20 different strings I’ve used in my Vantage 95s, and honestly none even come close to the incredible playability duration & control/spin that YPTSG gives. It may be pricey @ $15 a set, but I ordered a reel of the red and haven’t looked back since.


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Does anyone know the average swingweight for the TC95 16x19 RA63 27.5 length? I like the feel of a polarized racquet so I want to order below my target specs so I can add some lead at 12.


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Does anyone know the average swingweight for the TC95 16x19 RA63 27.5 length? I like the feel of a polarized racquet so I want to order below my target specs so I can add some lead at 12.


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I can’t help you directly. But I have the 18x20 version of that stick that measured 352 swingweight, 345 static weight with a balance of 32.5 (strung specs with lead).
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I tried the Angell cooling towel today, man this thing is awesome. Hot muggy chicago weather just instantly vanished when this thing touched my face and neck. Awesome feeling really, and just some water and shaking around activates it. Really liked how it cooled me off.
 
I just hit with the Angell TC97 18x20. All I can say is wow. This thing is what I’ve been looking for. The 95 and the k7 are pretty darn good, but the 97 feels familiar, kind of like an old friend. It still has Angell power, while providing a different flex profile.
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
I just hit with the Angell TC97 18x20. All I can say is wow. This thing is what I’ve been looking for. The 95 and the k7 are pretty darn good, but the 97 feels familiar, kind of like an old friend. It still has Angell power, while providing a different flex profile.
Interesting. Better than the PCT for you?
 

landcookie

New User
Does anyone know the average swingweight for the TC95 16x19 RA63 27.5 length? I like the feel of a polarized racquet so I want to order below my target specs so I can add some lead at 12.


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According to Paul, the TC 100 27.5 inches has a default unstrung swing weight of 310. Static weight isn't a factor.
Not sure how it would differ with the TC95. You'll be adding 25~30 to the SW once strung.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Anyone ever partially dig out some of the foam in the handle and replace it with some silicone?
Just curious what do you think you would get out of this? I suppose you could but I personally didn’t like the feel of silicone I tried once in the handle of a Yonex. It deadened the feel for me too much
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
I’m intrigued with the equilateral bevel grip C option. I’m thinking that getting into the semi western position on the forehand side will be easier to get into and would feel just as natural as when in an eastern position. Because all the bevels are equal. Can anyone elaborate on my line of thinking here. And I’m assuming there is no way to demo one of these. ? Looks like I’m going to have to order one to satisfy my curiosity.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I’m intrigued with the equilateral bevel grip C option. I’m thinking that getting into the semi western position on the forehand side will be easier to get into and would feel just as natural as when in an eastern position. Because all the bevels are equal. Can anyone elaborate on my line of thinking here. And I’m assuming there is no way to demo one of these. ? Looks like I’m going to have to order one to satisfy my curiosity.
Have you ever held a Prince racquet?... if so, you have experience of that option...
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Yes. I currently use the tt310. But they are not the same. The prince is not equilateral. No other retail stick ha equilateral sides. The Angell c shape is unique.
Ok... because they used to explain the different shapes on the Angell site as: Option A - Head; Option B - Dunlop/ Wilson; Option C - Prince/Yonex...

That's all... but I could have been mistaken...
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
Ok... because they used to explain the different shapes on the Angell site as: Option A - Head; Option B - Dunlop/ Wilson; Option C - Prince/Yonex...

That's all... but I could have been mistaken...
That was a generalization. Not to be taken literally. Again. Grip c is equilateral. That is unique.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
That was a generalization. Not to be taken literally. Again. Grip c is equilateral. That is unique.
(y) I wasn't doubting you. No need for short sentences. You're not talking to a child. Again. I get it. Grip C is equilateral. That is unique. You must get it. All the best. Hope you enjoy it. (y)
 
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haqq777

Legend
Yes. I currently use the tt310. But they are not the same. The prince is not equilateral. No other retail stick ha equilateral sides. The Angell c shape is unique.
That was a generalization. Not to be taken literally. Again. Grip c is equilateral. That is unique.
Not really. Take the replacement grip off and check handle shape. The Angell C shape is the same as Prince handle shape. I have a plethora of Angell and Prince racquets lying around that I re-grip and mess with all the time, and I can verify. Have also asked directly from Paul as well in the past but that was a while back. In fact, I posted pictures here as well for the handle shape C side by side with my TT100P and Phantoms a while back when I was curious myself. I don't know but you might have to search for those posts here since this thread is huge.

Also, directly from Angell website: https://www.angelltennis.com/faq-1/

"There isn’t a right or a wrong choice here, it is purely preference. To guide you, the Angell A shape is the same as Head. The Angell C shape is the same as Prince, and the Angell B Shape is a generic octagon as used by Wilson, Babolat, Dunlop etc. If you currently use any other branded racket and wish for some guidance on which handle shape to choose, please contact us for help".

I have a conservative semi-western and really like the Prince shape handles. The only shape I really struggle with is Volkl but it is all a matter of how you get used to it. I would definitely suggest you pick one up and scratch the itch. Worth it.

Hope that helps.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Both head and volkl offer the pallet system for grips. I E the stock speed grip is different from the prestige grip. Stock Prestige is grip A but speed is bwtween b and c.

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haqq777

Legend
@danbrenner

Picture I just took. The Angell here does not have a replacement and overgrip on (playing with Speed Pros and Phantoms these days for funsies and Angells are being stored atm). Prince has both replacement grip and overgrip on. But handle shape, as you can see, is the same.

 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
@danbrenner

Picture I just took. The Angell here does not have a replacement and overgrip on (playing with Speed Pros and Phantoms these days for funsies and Angells are being stored atm). Prince has both replacement grip and overgrip on. But handle shape, as you can see, is the same.

Thank you for your time. So here the Angell pallet is clearly not equidistant. Is this a grip C. ??
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Not really. Take the replacement grip off and check handle shape. The Angell C shape is the same as Prince handle shape. I have a plethora of Angell and Prince racquets lying around that I re-grip and mess with all the time, and I can verify. Have also asked directly from Paul as well in the past but that was a while back. In fact, I posted pictures here as well for the handle shape C side by side with my TT100P and Phantoms a while back when I was curious myself. I don't know but you might have to search for those posts here since this thread is huge.

Also, directly from Angell website: https://www.angelltennis.com/faq-1/

"There isn’t a right or a wrong choice here, it is purely preference. To guide you, the Angell A shape is the same as Head. The Angell C shape is the same as Prince, and the Angell B Shape is a generic octagon as used by Wilson, Babolat, Dunlop etc. If you currently use any other branded racket and wish for some guidance on which handle shape to choose, please contact us for help".

I have a conservative semi-western and really like the Prince shape handles. The only shape I really struggle with is Volkl but it is all a matter of how you get used to it. I would definitely suggest you pick one up and scratch the itch. Worth it.

Hope that helps.
Thanks @haqq777 for confirming what I thought was the case.
 

Faris

Professional
That’s strange. Because on the website it’s clearly equidistant. So can anyone else here please confirm that this grips c is in fact what is posted here and not exactly equidistant ??
Not sure why you are having a tough time accepting this. Angell website clearly says C shape is the Prince handle and as you can see in the pic, looks same shape. It looks very even sided to me like website says for C shape.

It isn't flat topped (A shape) or standard (B shape with tops a bit longer than rest.

 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
Not sure why you are having a tough time accepting this. Angell website clearly says C shape is the Prince handle and as you can see in the pic, looks same shape. It looks very even sided to me like website says for C shape.

It isn't flat topped (A shape) or standard (B shape with tops a bit longer than rest.

Because that could be a generalization.
I’ll email Angell and get to the bottom of it. And report back.
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
It’s the wording that’s making it confusing. If it’s a Prince shape then it’s not equidistant. It should be labeled as rounder or something like that. Equidistant means all sides the same. Period the end.
 
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