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Classic-TXP-IG MID

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Finally got to hit with my TC95 63RA 18x20 (330g, 305mm balance - then modified with weight at 3,9, and 12 o'clock (2.5g, 2.5g, and 1g); 2 overgrips (as it's a grip size 3 - one with no overlap and the 2nd normal, and 5g (I think) at 7" above the butt cap). The racquet is strung with MSV Co-Focus 1.18mm @ 48/45. I'm right-handed and have a OHBH.

Glorious... in one word. I haven't tried serving yet, as I'm working myself back into fitness after rehab from 2 procedures, but all the other strokes were smooth and easily executed. The amount of spin and loop to my shots was like a volume knob instead of an on/off switch (to use Mark's phrase from TW), and all that had to be adjusted was the angle of approach to the ball at contact (and of course the change from a mild semi-western to a full semi-western grip).

Backhand topspin was not an issue, and the BH slice was low with plenty of skid and court penetration (dirty slice as Chris from TW would call it). I could also easily gauge the amount of side-spin I wanted to add to the slice on my down-the-line slices to right-handed players to take them further out-of-court (or on drop shots to the FH side).

It was my first outing with the 18x20 version of the TC95, so I anticipate things will only get better. All that remains is to compare the 18x20 with my 16x19 (with a much thicker gauge of the same string) to see which one I like better.
 
Finally got to hit with my TC95 63RA 18x20 (330g, 305mm balance - then modified with weight at 3,9, and 12 o'clock (2.5g, 2.5g, and 1g); 2 overgrips (as it's a grip size 3 - one with no overlap and the 2nd normal, and 5g (I think) at 7" above the butt cap). The racquet is strung with MSV Co-Focus 1.18mm @ 48/45. I'm right-handed and have a OHBH.

Glorious... in one word. I haven't tried serving yet, as I'm working myself back into fitness after rehab from 2 procedures, but all the other strokes were smooth and easily executed. The amount of spin and loop to my shots was like a volume knob instead of an on/off switch (to use Mark's phrase from TW), and all that had to be adjusted was the angle of approach to the ball at contact (and of course the change from a mild semi-western to a full semi-western grip).

Backhand topspin was not an issue, and the BH slice was low with plenty of skid and court penetration (dirty slice as Chris from TW would call it). I could also easily gauge the amount of side-spin I wanted to add to the slice on my down-the-line slices to right-handed players to take them further out-of-court (or on drop shots to the FH side).

It was my first outing with the 18x20 version of the TC95, so I anticipate things will only get better. All that remains is to compare the 18x20 with my 16x19 (with a much thicker gauge of the same string) to see which one I like better.
Nice review! I know you've hit with the tfight LTD a good bit in the past - how do you compare that and the tc95? Tc more power and comfort? Also sounds like your final weight was pretty hefty on this!
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Nice review! I know you've hit with the tfight LTD a good bit in the past - how do you compare that and the tc95? Tc more power and comfort? Also sounds like your final weight was pretty hefty on this!
Thanks :)

I am going to play the TFight DC 315 LTD 18x20 side-by-side with the TC95 18x20 in the next few days, so I can let you know. The TC95 would be more powerful from the start as it has a higher static weight and SW as standard. Both racquets are modified, but the TC95 is still the heavier one when it comes to static weight and probably the SW, however, its balance would also be more HL. Time will tell. What I do know is that the way the TC95 flexes is very addictive. For that reason alone, it will be staying in my bag.

The TFight DC 315 LTD has stiff competition from my 2013 TFight 315 Limited 18x20. I am yet to decide which one I like more (due to my prolonged rehab and absence from the tennis courts in the last 10 months or so).

Since I purchased my TC95 18x20s from a wonderful TT member (@Purist), the starting specs were 330g/305mm balance (which is similar to my TC97 18x20 - 330g/ 310mm balance). I would have preferred a slightly lower static weight to start with, but the racquets were in such a wonderful condition, so I bought them. Should the weight be too much in the long run, I will take off a bit at 3 and 9 o'clock. However, at this time, the racquet is still quite maneuverable and very stable so I will leave it as is. Two things will happen, I will either be able to heck it or not. It will not be hard to take bits of Tungsten tape off the racquet head. The double overgrip is needed due to the grip being size 3 and I need size 4 (but like getting 3 and then adding the two overgrips).

I'll keep you posted with further thoughts and happenings :giggle:
 

aehjmeyer

New User
First league match with ASL2. Played poorly and got destroyed, but racket was wonderful as was Black Knight. Really easy to swing, great on contact. Really every shot I needed (flat/spin groundstrokes, volleys, lobs) was accessible, I just needed to have played more than once in the past several weeks. Overall, first impression very good.
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
I've got my Lyon strung at 45/43, so not high by any means.

Boardy may not be the right word - that would suggest a harsh string bed; when in fact Lyon is quite the opposite. It's very comfortable.

Perhaps it's the lack of feel/response that I'm trying to describe. Muted maybe? The polar opposite would be something like RPM where I can feel the strings dig into the ball (a sensation I rather like), whereas on Lyon the dwell time feels a lot shorter. Again, just my personal experience.

Maybe I've become too used with shaped polys and have forgotten what round polys feel like. I gotta say though, the more I play with Lyon, the more I'm liking how predictable this string is - something I never get with shaped polys. Its also keeping tension amazingly well.
Okay, now it make sense. :)
Personally, I was not able to hit effectively with Lyon. Silverstring, Scorpion and SPPP are better IMHO. However, it is very personal, we feel things differently.
 
First league match with ASL2. Played poorly and got destroyed, but racket was wonderful as was Black Knight. Really easy to swing, great on contact. Really every shot I needed (flat/spin groundstrokes, volleys, lobs) was accessible, I just needed to have played more than once in the past several weeks. Overall, first impression very good.
elbow sufferer here-how was the comfort?
 
I am going to get the Angell TC100 - at 27.5 length. Not sure if 70RA or 63A? Any views?
Also anyone know if there are any upcoming discounts on rackets at Angell?
 

DJ-

Hall of Fame
I am going to get the Angell TC100 - at 27.5 length. Not sure if 70RA or 63A? Any views?
Also anyone know if there are any upcoming discounts on rackets at Angell?
I want to get a 27.25 tc100 at 70ra. I have a 63ra standard length. Swingweight can be huge in 63ra especially in xl.
Angell instagram and their website announce discounts. Next one might be xmas
 
I want to get a 27.25 tc100 at 70ra. I have a 63ra standard length. Swingweight can be huge in 63ra especially in xl.
Angell instagram and their website announce discounts. Next one might be xmas
So with 63RA extended length, the racket will feel really heavy and with 70RA it will feel lighter. Forgive me for my ignorance but why is that? Thanks
 

DJ-

Hall of Fame
So with 63RA extended length, the racket will feel really heavy and with 70RA it will feel lighter. Forgive me for my ignorance but why is that? Thanks
Depends on what weight you are used to. In xl frames I love at least 5 or 6 points strung balance to make it more whippier. The higher sw the harder it can be depending on level to swing. Good modern technique and relaxed swing is required with higher sw. Tc100 70ra you can get lower sw frames but the feel is very similar to 63ra anyway. 65ra or so strung with foam is great.
To me all angell frames play a bit heavier due to the foam filling. If you know specs you like it is much easier
 
True, I play with a Yonex Ezone DR98 extended length with 8g of lead tape on 3 and 9 o clock. Mainly hit flat shots and lots of volleying so aiming for a bit lighted racket so maybe I will go for 70RA. I also have elbow issues so would this be comfortable still.
 
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DJ-

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True, I play with a Yonex Ezone DR98 extended length with 8g of lead tape on 3 and 9 o clock. Mainly hit flat shots and lots of volleying so aiming for a bit lighted racket so maybe I will go for 70RA. I also have elbow issues so would this be comfortable still.
I have tried the 70ra standard length and it is very arm friendly. The 63ra is a volley king. But 70ra not too far off. I also used ai/dr 98 for a while. Plenty of good strings out there too
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Does anyone have problem generating power if hits are off-center / out of sweet spot a little? I've been playing with the the TC100, up around 350g, 31.cm balance and I feel like if I connect on the outer edges of the frame (yes, I know, don't hit it there hahah), I get no help, like it feels stiff almost. Coming from my Tour 95 where i could snap it on the reach and it'd feel solid, this feels a bit dead. Maybe I'm also having trouble making the 95 to 100sq in adjustment? lol

It could also be the strings which I'm still testing....just curious though. Obviosuly when I hit dead on it's amazing, beautiful power and feel.
 

jjs891

Semi-Pro
Tpro2000
I am having the same issue too. Feels like I am having tough time finding the sweet spot consistently.
I am also coming from 95” stick. When I do hit the sweet spot, it has a ton of power...almost too much.
I am playing with Solinco Tourbite 17.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Tpro2000
I am having the same issue too. Feels like I am having tough time finding the sweet spot consistently.
I am also coming from 95” stick. When I do hit the sweet spot, it has a ton of power...almost too much.
I am playing with Solinco Tourbite 17.
I know it's an adjustment and I'm sure have to settle in, cause when it's right, it's awesome. I keep wanting to pick up my 95 again, but I'm stopping myself haha. Good to know I'm not the only one lol

I've been testing: Ice Code 1.20, Lynx 1.20, BHS7T 1.25 so far. All at 45/42 (I can't go tighter, doesn't work for me)
 

tpro2000

Rookie
So far comfort is very good. I switched to TC95 from 2016 pure strike due to TE. ASL2 after 1 session equally as comfy as TC95, which is itself also very comfy.
I've heard so many people switch from the Pure Strike because of TE. At my club I won't let them string above 50 for fear of problems and it seems to have helped (for the time being)
 

aehjmeyer

New User
I've heard so many people switch from the Pure Strike because of TE. At my club I won't let them string above 50 for fear of problems and it seems to have helped (for the time being)
Yeah I play control oriented polys mainly, never above 50. TE onset was very insidious with PS, as I played with it for over a year with no issues. But a blessing in disguise since I wouldn’t have stumbled onto this forum without said TE. So really I should thank Babolat I suppose...
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Yeah I play control oriented polys mainly, never above 50. TE onset was very insidious with PS, as I played with it for over a year with no issues. But a blessing in disguise since I wouldn’t have stumbled onto this forum without said TE. So really I should thank Babolat I suppose...
Hahah, like you said, sometimes a blessing in disguise. Glad you're enjoying your Angell's, great frames!
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
Does anyone have problem generating power if hits are off-center / out of sweet spot a little? I've been playing with the the TC100, up around 350g, 31.cm balance and I feel like if I connect on the outer edges of the frame (yes, I know, don't hit it there hahah), I get no help, like it feels stiff almost. Coming from my Tour 95 where i could snap it on the reach and it'd feel solid, this feels a bit dead. Maybe I'm also having trouble making the 95 to 100sq in adjustment? lol

It could also be the strings which I'm still testing....just curious though. Obviosuly when I hit dead on it's amazing, beautiful power and feel.
Tpro2000
I am having the same issue too. Feels like I am having tough time finding the sweet spot consistently.
I am also coming from 95” stick. When I do hit the sweet spot, it has a ton of power...almost too much.
I am playing with Solinco Tourbite 17.
Do you, guys, use recent batches? Maybe it is production/batch specific or smth. When was your sticks produced/delivered?

I have never had any issues with consistency and sweet zone with all my versions of TC100. However, softer, thinner string might help with it + proportional stringing method is worth to consider as well.
 
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Carreau

Semi-Pro
Yes, these are my main sticks, however, I'm typically adding 5g at top of the handle (for 310g/315mm versions).
I have tried 310g/320mm version, but it was too much power in my case. I have ordered 320g/305mm sticks as well - very curious how they will perform.

In general - I'm winning a lot with TC100, excellent sticks (for my game). :)
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
I play doubles 90% of the time, so, I'm not a baseliner. I'm more top spin player, however, I hit flat as well when needed. I like this TC100 ability to play both types of shots - topspin and flat.
All court - yes. Single handed backhand.
I'm utilising slice backhand (and forehand) sometimes - but I think this one is better with 70RA TC100.
 
Thanks, great info as I play similar style however probably not on your level though :) So you would recommend 70RA instead of 63RA. I have elbow issues so would 70RA still be ok for elbow.
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
70RA provides a bit more free power IMO. And I do not need this power, TC100 is powerful enough in 63RA version. I'm more control and feel oriented in this case. I would go for 63RA version with elbow issues - it would be more safe option.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Do you, guys, use recent batches? Maybe it is production/batch specific or smth. When was your sticks produces/delivered?

I have never had any issues with consistency and sweet zone with all my versions of TC100. However, softer, thinner string might help with it + proportional stringing method is worth to consider as well.

Honestly idk, got them used from another TW member. I have the same specs as you except the V2. I built the grip up to the size I like using tape which added about 12g to the handle. Unstrung, plus tape/replacement/overgrip they are at 330g. With strings/dampner they come out to about 346-348g.

What seemed to help yesterday was adding lead across the 10 middle mains at 12 ( the exact way my Tour 95 was setup). So the balance, weight are where I like them, and that seemed to help the feel.

They're great frames, just gotta fine tune them for my liking :)
 

ChrisG

New User
Hello everybody, I have a question.
I’ve checked the SW of my TC 95 v2 for the first time with the TW method and I was surprised to see the number : 351 !
It seems quite high to me. My specs are 335g (OG and dampener, 2g at 10 and 2g at 2.), 335mm balance and normal length.
I’ve played wonderfully with it this past months but I’m struggling a bit after my summer break, it feels more difficult to play as my fitness is not as good in this early season.

Do you think the SW is accurate ? How can I do to help reduce it ?
Thanks !!
 

1990's Graphite

Professional
Hello everybody, I have a question.
I’ve checked the SW of my TC 95 v2 for the first time with the TW method and I was surprised to see the number : 351 !
It seems quite high to me. My specs are 335g (OG and dampener, 2g at 10 and 2g at 2.), 335mm balance and normal length.
I’ve played wonderfully with it this past months but I’m struggling a bit after my summer break, it feels more difficult to play as my fitness is not as good in this early season.

Do you think the SW is accurate ? How can I do to help reduce it ?
Thanks !!
Only way is to remove all lead which is about 8sw points and damp about 2sw. Try a different lighter string also if that works for you.
 

landcookie

New User
Thanks, great info as I play similar style however probably not on your level though :) So you would recommend 70RA instead of 63RA. I have elbow issues so would 70RA still be ok for elbow.
I have both TC100 27.5 inches @ 63 and 70. If you have elbow problems stick with the 63. Whilst the 70 is fairly comfortable, I still feel a pinch in my elbow after a hard session ( even with a softer poly). Personally prefer the 70 but mainly use it for doubles now due to this. No issues with 63 ra. Both variations swing similarly. I did request a specific swing weight though.
 

ChrisG

New User
Only way is to remove all lead which is about 8sw points and damp about 2sw. Try a different lighter string also if that works for you.
Thanks for your answer. Without lead racquet felt unstable when I first played with it. Might try to get it back to stock at least for a few weeks in order to let my fitness and tennis level get back to normal.
Getting old sucks in that regard, a one month lay off and I feel so rusty...
 

1990's Graphite

Professional
Thanks for your answer. Without lead racquet felt unstable when I first played with it. Might try to get it back to stock at least for a few weeks in order to let my fitness and tennis level get back to normal.
Getting old sucks in that regard, a one month lay off and I feel so rusty...
Yeah good choice. Or you could get another angell for less fit days!
 

ChrisG

New User
Yeah good choice. Or you could get another angell for less fit days!
Haha don’t trigger my racquetaholism !! Actually I bought a K7 red for that purpose, but I don’t trust it for competitive match, so I bought a tc100 recently but it’s more of the same, nice frame but right now I haven’t found the right combination to make it truly effective for my aggressive/precision type of play.
So I end up with the Tc 95 that right now is a bit harsh to me but still so addictive
 

jjs891

Semi-Pro
I know it's an adjustment and I'm sure have to settle in, cause when it's right, it's awesome. I keep wanting to pick up my 95 again, but I'm stopping myself haha. Good to know I'm not the only one lol

I've been testing: Ice Code 1.20, Lynx 1.20, BHS7T 1.25 so far. All at 45/42 (I can't go tighter, doesn't work for me)
I was thinking of trying gut/poly hybrid in my TC100 but gut is too expensive to experiment with so I went with Tec NRG /ghost wire hybrid instead. I know that everyone is going to tell me that it’s only going to last ~2 hrs but it’s a cheap set up to experiment.
I played with the set up today. It felt good , really good. No issues finding the sweet spot at all. Volleys have a lot of feel and touch too. Very excited with this setup. If it continues to play that way, I will go with gut/ghost wire hybrid next.
 

landcookie

New User
Thanks for your answer. Without lead racquet felt unstable when I first played with it. Might try to get it back to stock at least for a few weeks in order to let my fitness and tennis level get back to normal.
Getting old sucks in that regard, a one month lay off and I feel so rusty...
Hello. Reading your post above you noted your TC 95 to be 335g static weight strung, and total of 4g lead? It's hard to believe that you're getting 351 SW with that setup; albeit I've read the v2 63RAs actually have higher SWs due to the denser material. So I could be mistaken.

Anyway, an idea would be to put minimal lead at 12 o'clock (say 1-2g) to bump up the SW to get the stability you desire, whilst preventing the racquet from becoming too sluggish, as may be the case with you previous de-polarised setup with lead at 2 and 10. Just thought.
 

ChrisG

New User
Hello. Reading your post above you noted your TC 95 to be 335g static weight strung, and total of 4g lead? It's hard to believe that you're getting 351 SW with that setup; albeit I've read the v2 63RAs actually have higher SWs due to the denser material. So I could be mistaken.

Anyway, an idea would be to put minimal lead at 12 o'clock (say 1-2g) to bump up the SW to get the stability you desire, whilst preventing the racquet from becoming too sluggish, as may be the case with you previous de-polarised setup with lead at 2 and 10. Just thought.
Thanks for your advice. I’m also surprised by the high SW, but I did also with the same method my TC100 and it came around a more reasonable 330 sw. maybe I still need to check it again.
I put lead on 2and 10 after reading on this thread that it could be better than 9 and 3. I didn’t want to increase the balance so I avoided the 12 spot.
Anyway I should try your set up and see what’s the result ?!
 

tpro2000

Rookie
So I had a friend drop off a swingweight machine, and here's what I got with the 2 TC100's that I have currently been using:

R1) static: 350g, swingweight: 348kg/cm2,
R2) static: 348g, swingweight: 349kg/cm2.

Pretty close and to me they feel the same! Compared to my Prince which was 346g static, and a 318 swingweight lol
 

lima

Rookie
I have been playing with my Phantom 100P Pro for 2 years now. Sold it, and borrowed my friends TC100 63ra. I must say I'm much better player with Angell. I can dictate game from baseline. With Phantom I can only grind. TC100 is absolutely fantastic performance stick! I have feeling I can do whatever I want from the back of the court. But there is a problem. My shoulder doesn't like TC100. So angry now :(
 

tpro2000

Rookie
I have been playing with my Phantom 100P Pro for 2 years now. Sold it, and borrowed my friends TC100 63ra. I must say I'm much better player with Angell. I can dictate game from baseline. With Phantom I can only grind. TC100 is absolutely fantastic performance stick! I have feeling I can do whatever I want from the back of the court. But there is a problem. My shoulder doesn't like TC100. So angry now :(
What's the weight and balance? Why does your shoulder hate it???
 

lima

Rookie
What's the weight and balance? Why does your shoulder hate it???
300g, 325mm. It hurts when I serve. I have bad shoulder, even Phantom 100P Pro hurts when I serve. But with TC100 it hurts really bad. I find TC100 to be quite firm. And when I frame the ball it hurts. During the game I have no problem, just when I serve
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
300g, 325mm. It hurts when I serve. I have bad shoulder, even Phantom 100P Pro hurts when I serve. But with TC100 it hurts really bad. I find TC100 to be quite firm. And when I frame the ball it hurts. During the game I have no problem, just when I serve
V2?
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
300g, 325mm. It hurts when I serve. I have bad shoulder, even Phantom 100P Pro hurts when I serve. But with TC100 it hurts really bad. I find TC100 to be quite firm. And when I frame the ball it hurts. During the game I have no problem, just when I serve
You may have to treat your shoulder as it truly doesn’t sound like a racquet issue. You are playing with some extremely friendly frames yet have shoulder problems and that is very telling that your shoulder just doesn’t like the motion and contact with anything
 

lima

Rookie
You may have to treat your shoulder as it truly doesn’t sound like a racquet issue. You are playing with some extremely friendly frames yet have shoulder problems and that is very telling that your shoulder just doesn’t like the motion and contact with anything
I realize my technique is not so good. Maybe I should stop playing until I found someone who can look at my serve motion.

But right now I have no racquet, I have to buy something. I really really like the performance of TC100 but what if it continues to hurt even if I correct my technique during the serve? I don't know what to do.

With Phantom I was grinder but with TC100 I can dominate the game from the back of the court. Also it is much more stable than Phantom. The point is I want to play with TC100 but I can't because of the pain
 

tpro2000

Rookie
I agree with topspn - sounds like either a form/injury related issue that a racquet can't solve. Have you seen any docs?
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I realize my technique is not so good. Maybe I should stop playing until I found someone who can look at my serve motion.

But right now I have no racquet, I have to buy something. I really really like the performance of TC100 but what if it continues to hurt even if I correct my technique during the serve? I don't know what to do.

With Phantom I was grinder but with TC100 I can dominate the game from the back of the court. Also it is much more stable than Phantom. The point is I want to play with TC100 but I can't because of the pain
I think what I am saying is you have an injured shoulder. I don’t know whether it is technique or otherwise as I have never seen you serve. You need to heal your shoulder first then perhaps see a pro about technique. But you need a doctor first
 
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