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esm

Semi-Pro
Speaking about handle sizes, can someone with a TC 95 (or else) V2 with size 4 pallets grip + OG measure the handle circumference ?
I have a Size 3 handle and find it too small so I have 2 OG over the grip. It works well but I was thinking about switching to size 4 pallets. I only fear it might get too big, that's why I'm asking for help !!

thanks !!
with the existing L3 grip, maybe you can try a thicker OG - i use 0.70mm over a base grip and that works for me. Sometimes you can re-wrap the replacement grip "closer/overlap abit more" to slight increase the thickness, then add an OG.

other than that, you can change to a thicker replacement grip over the existing L3 pallet - Babolat Uptake is thicker at 2.0mm, & with an OG this may just work.

if these doesnt work, then change to L4 pallet might be the last option (more efforts required too IMO)
 

ChrisG

New User
thanks for your replies. Regarding overgrips, for some unexplained reasons my hands only stand Head Xtremsoft OG, so I'm stuck with its regular thickness (0,5mm).
i think I'll try a thicker replacement grip, as you told me. I might have a Babolat at 2,1mm somewhere
My only concern is precision as it will make the handle rounder (well it already is rounder due to the 2 OG). As I'm playing against better opponents this year, I've noticed I could improve from getting a more precise grip on certain situation that were ok against lesser opposition.
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
thanks for your replies. Regarding overgrips, for some unexplained reasons my hands only stand Head Xtremsoft OG, so I'm stuck with its regular thickness (0,5mm).
i think I'll try a thicker replacement grip, as you told me. I might have a Babolat at 2,1mm somewhere
My only concern is precision as it will make the handle rounder (well it already is rounder due to the 2 OG). As I'm playing against better opponents this year, I've noticed I could improve from getting a more precise grip on certain situation that were ok against lesser opposition.
What about heat shrink sleeves? I use them regularly since I’m in between sizes on my Tour Gs and if you use the half size one (white from TW), it keeps bevels (almost) perfectly pronounced. Sure it adds some weight but so does thicker replacement grip or second overgrip. If you don’t like it, you can just peel it off.
 

esm

Semi-Pro
What about heat shrink sleeves? I use them regularly since I’m in between sizes on my Tour Gs and if you use the half size one (white from TW), it keeps bevels (almost) perfectly pronounced. Sure it adds some weight but so does thicker replacement grip or second overgrip. If you don’t like it, you can just peel it off.
Got a couple of generic heat shrink last year to build up a L2 to L3. A full size up heat shrink pre cut was about 16g and heated/trimmer comes to about 13/12g from memory, so that adds quite abit if weight at the tail end. Suppose it’d be a good option if your have loads of room to play with in terms of weight to get up to your preferred spec
It’s good to have options :)
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
Got a couple of generic heat shrink last year to build up a L2 to L3. A full size up heat shrink pre cut was about 16g and heated/trimmer comes to about 13/12g from memory, so that adds quite abit if weight at the tail end. Suppose it’d be a good option if your have loads of room to play with in terms of weight to get up to your preferred spec
It’s good to have options :)
So is it safe to assume that half a size heat shrink is half the weight? That’s 6,5g spread across the whole handle...would say it’s insignificant as far as SW goes. Not a bad trade off if it gets you the handle you need. Even if it was 12g spread across the handle...I’d say it’s less than thicker RG and an extra OG with bevels properly pronounced.

I used a full grip size heat shrink as well. I needed a heat gun (?) to apply it as opposed to the half a size one that is easily doable with a hair fan. I have both of them but I don’t have such a fine scales to properly measure...

Full size:


Half a size:

 

tpro2000

Rookie
The sleeves we use: black - full build-up: uncut, 12in long = 20g. white - half build-up: uncut, 9.5in long = 10g.

Idk if that helps anyone, but I just had them right in front of me and weighed them :)
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
The sleeves we use: black - full build-up: uncut, 12in long = 20g. white - half build-up: uncut, 9.5in long = 10g.

Idk if that helps anyone, but I just had them right in front of me and weighed them :)
Thanks .)

For instance, I only use some 2/3 of the half size one (one hander) which is some 6,5g across the lower 2/3 of the grip. Insignificant...
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Thanks .)

For instance, I only use some 2/3 of the half size one (one hander) which is some 6,5g across the lower 2/3 of the grip. Insignificant...
yeah, when I build-up grips for clients there's definitely excess from the black, way less from the white. For myself I was doing the same, building only as far as my hand covered, then used lead for the rest of the weighting
 

aehjmeyer

New User
I have several hours on the ASL2 now (1 match, some drills and some serving). Serves well, volleys well, groundies feel great and no hint of arm issues. I'm definitely still smitten and would certainly buy another, no questions asked. Question of whether I like it more than my similarly modified V3 TC95, however, is very tricky to answer, which I view as a favorable thing.

I pulled out the TC95 yesterday for some drills and today for some serves and not sure I could pick one over the other if I was forced to. TC95 felt a bit more plush, but I could easily attribute that to string differences (Square X in TC95 vs Black Knight in ASL2). Next step is to string both fresh with same strings at same tension and settle it once and for all, if possible.

Anyone else who has played both TC95 and ASL2 care to chime in with their experience?
 

Vigo

New User
Haven't used any other Angells, so can't compare, but bought an ASL2 a few weeks ago and can only echo what others have said - a really nice all-round racket, does everything well, no obvious weaknesses, easy to switch from defence to attack, just a very nice mix of power and control. Very happy with my purchase!
 

DaryS

New User
Thanks, great info as I play similar style however probably not on your level though :) So you would recommend 70RA instead of 63RA. I have elbow issues so would 70RA still be ok for elbow.
Hey SteveX, I have a TC100 V3, 70RA, 27.5 290g 6HL, strung with Genesis Spider Super 8 (16g poly) , and I love it! no arm or elbow pains. I find it stable, powerful and still plenty of feel. Stop theorizing about it and just go for it, you wont be disappointment. I did the same, I researched the crap out of it, read every post, demoed a bunch of different brands, asked a billion questions and thought of every scenario, all I learned was, that I was wasting time, and my initial gut feeling was right, and it was the best racquet for me.. Call Paul and chat with him if you need the extra positive reinforcement in selecting the right racket for your game... I have since done some fine tuning and added little weight to the handle and to the head, minor tweaks to suit my game, (baseline, power & spin, Sgle & Dbls) Does everything great, from serves to volleys, never before, have heard so many compliments from the other side, "great serve" , "good shot", "i thought that was going out" etc. I play with a lot of spin ( a must, as I live at 7,000 feet ) It can easily handle hard n heavy serves, as good as my weighty Wilson Kfactor weighing in at aprox 360 gr. Stop thinking about it and start playing with it... cheers D
 
Hey SteveX, I have a TC100 V3, 70RA, 27.5 290g 6HL, strung with Genesis Spider Super 8 (16g poly) , and I love it! no arm or elbow pains. I find it stable, powerful and still plenty of feel. Stop theorizing about it and just go for it, you wont be disappointment. I did the same, I researched the crap out of it, read every post, demoed a bunch of different brands, asked a billion questions and thought of every scenario, all I learned was, that I was wasting time, and my initial gut feeling was right, and it was the best racquet for me.. Call Paul and chat with him if you need the extra positive reinforcement in selecting the right racket for your game... I have since done some fine tuning and added little weight to the handle and to the head, minor tweaks to suit my game, (baseline, power & spin, Sgle & Dbls) Does everything great, from serves to volleys, never before, have heard so many compliments from the other side, "great serve" , "good shot", "i thought that was going out" etc. I play with a lot of spin ( a must, as I live at 7,000 feet ) It can easily handle hard n heavy serves, as good as my weighty Wilson Kfactor weighing in at aprox 360 gr. Stop thinking about it and start playing with it... cheers D
Thanks DaryS, great info, I will defo get one, but out with injury so waiting to recover first before I purchase, hoping there might be a sale of some kind.
 

Dallasatl

New User
is angell really worth it? i see so many of them up for sale on stringforum everyday.
I went with Paul’s recommendation of TC95 after I sent him a long email explaining where I was. I’ve been playing with clash tours, don’t love them but adjusted.

The TC95 is the best racket I’ve ever held. I was scared of the 95” and it’s truly amazing in my opinion. Powerful, accurate, maneuverable and believe it or not it’s forgiving.

I’ve been taping my fingers from a MCP sprain in my ring finger knuckle and wearing wrist brace for 3 months. Second time hitting with the TC95 I forgot to do both and didn’t need it.

I’ve had it 2 weeks, I’m ordering another and haven’t touched my other rackets.

I’m using razor blue technafiber poly at 45#, it’s the 16x19, ra63 and after adding some weight in the trap door it’s 10pt HL, total weight 335g


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