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Fellow ASL2 owner. Love the frame. Eager for your input regarding string choice, as I'm still fine tuning. What racket are you coming from out of curiousity?
Yonex DR98 for the last couple years. I flirted with the Blade V7 for the last couple months but just not quite my jam. The DR was the thickest frame I'd ever used and while I enjoy it, I just haven't felt dialed in at net. I been using Solinco Confidential 2.0 for most of this year and have some sets of Confidential 3.0 from them (which has become my favorite string right now). Paul also sent me samples of a blue and a grey poly he said they were testing specifically with the ASL in mind.
 

aehjmeyer

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Yonex DR98 for the last couple years. I flirted with the Blade V7 for the last couple months but just not quite my jam. The DR was the thickest frame I'd ever used and while I enjoy it, I just haven't felt dialed in at net. I been using Solinco Confidential 2.0 for most of this year and have some sets of Confidential 3.0 from them (which has become my favorite string right now). Paul also sent me samples of a blue and a grey poly he said they were testing specifically with the ASL in mind.
Interesting...you'll have to let me know how that blue/grey poly works. I'm about to pick up my ASL2 with Tourna BH Silver Tour 7 16g, with the idea of offering a bit more control on my forehand side. I previously used Black Knight 1.28 and liked it but could use a bit more control.

My recent rackets: 2nd pure strike (tennis elbow) --> TC100 (couldn't control) --> TC95 --> ASL2. Still trying to decide whether I like TC95 or ASL2 more before ordering another of either.
 
Interesting...you'll have to let me know how that blue/grey poly works. I'm about to pick up my ASL2 with Tourna BH Silver Tour 7 16g, with the idea of offering a bit more control on my forehand side. I previously used Black Knight 1.28 and liked it but could use a bit more control.

My recent rackets: 2nd pure strike (tennis elbow) --> TC100 (couldn't control) --> TC95 --> ASL2. Still trying to decide whether I like TC95 or ASL2 more before ordering another of either.
Nice! Oddly enough after seeing all the love BH SIlver Tour gets on here, I tried it and hated it (even more surprising since I was a long time Tour Bite user). Only thing I'm concerned about string wise w/ the ASL is that I've been playing 17g for awhile but that was in 16x19 patterns that had 8 mains in the middle. The last time I used a 16x19 w/ 6 mains in the middle, I had to go to 16 or 16L bc I broke 17g every 3-4 hours. I'm curious to see how the Angell prototypes play and I need to see if Paul has more info he can give me since they came completely unmarked. Right now the blue Solinco 3.0 string has been far and away my favorite string.
 

aehjmeyer

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Nice! Oddly enough after seeing all the love BH SIlver Tour gets on here, I tried it and hated it (even more surprising since I was a long time Tour Bite user). Only thing I'm concerned about string wise w/ the ASL is that I've been playing 17g for awhile but that was in 16x19 patterns that had 8 mains in the middle. The last time I used a 16x19 w/ 6 mains in the middle, I had to go to 16 or 16L bc I broke 17g every 3-4 hours. I'm curious to see how the Angell prototypes play and I need to see if Paul has more info he can give me since they came completely unmarked. Right now the blue Solinco 3.0 string has been far and away my favorite string.
Definitely would be interested in any info Paul passes along. Generalizing but it seems as though feedback is pretty consensus that Angell rackets >>>> Angell strings. Hopefully this mystery string is a success.

I don't have access to Confidential...any comparables come to mind?
 

galapagos

Semi-Pro
have anyone tested tc95 V3 16x19 vs tc97 V3 16x19 ? I have played for many years with tc95 v2 18x20 but to my surprise tc95 16x19 is my weapon of choice. Now I wonder how would tc97 16x19 play in comparison. I am selling my tc95 v3 18x20 in nearly mint/ newlike condition if someone is interested :)
 

esm

Semi-Pro
have anyone tested tc95 V3 16x19 vs tc97 V3 16x19 ? I have played for many years with tc95 v2 18x20 but to my surprise tc95 16x19 is my weapon of choice. Now I wonder how would tc97 16x19 play in comparison. I am selling my tc95 v3 18x20 in nearly mint/ newlike condition if someone is interested :)
i thought about the TC97 16x19 before as i am (still) loving the TC95 16x19 atm - just going though different strings and tension setups. i heard the TC95 and TC97 flex differently and the TC97 seems to be similar to Head Prestige, which i used to use (Flexpoint Prestige MP).
love love to hear more of it though... but i must resist buying more racquets... lol
 
Definitely would be interested in any info Paul passes along. Generalizing but it seems as though feedback is pretty consensus that Angell rackets >>>> Angell strings. Hopefully this mystery string is a success.

I don't have access to Confidential...any comparables come to mind?
Hmmm tough one.

Confidential 2.0 - Tough for me to compare bc it's a little bit of a unique string. Took me some time to figure it out. It plays livelier than it feels on contact. It has a more muted or "deader" response on contact (which I liked coming from Tour Bite), but it actually has a bit more power than TB. It took me a little bit of time to make that mental connection. The shaping on the string seems a little less noticeable so the spin is probably a little bit less but it's also has a slicker feeling surface. For me, it plays slightly livelier than Hyper G but with an impact feel I am more accustomed to.

Confidential 3.0 - Tour Bite on steroids maybe? Or maybe Volkl V-Square but better in every way :laughing:. It has incredibly easy power without the challenge of controlling it that power polys tend to have. Feel is nice and cushioned while still having a somewhat crisp response. I think it has the most aggressively profiled shape of any of their square variations. The amount of action on my shots is just plain filthy. Balls just dive down on the baseline and serves just jump off the court. It essentially takes all of the positive attributes of TB and makes it easier to tap into. I know they were testing a round version of the string at one point but I have only had the shaped version.

The Angell polys are both round profile and very slippery feeling.
 

aehjmeyer

New User
Hmmm tough one.

Confidential 2.0 - Tough for me to compare bc it's a little bit of a unique string. Took me some time to figure it out. It plays livelier than it feels on contact. It has a more muted or "deader" response on contact (which I liked coming from Tour Bite), but it actually has a bit more power than TB. It took me a little bit of time to make that mental connection. The shaping on the string seems a little less noticeable so the spin is probably a little bit less but it's also has a slicker feeling surface. For me, it plays slightly livelier than Hyper G but with an impact feel I am more accustomed to.

Confidential 3.0 - Tour Bite on steroids maybe? Or maybe Volkl V-Square but better in every way :laughing:. It has incredibly easy power without the challenge of controlling it that power polys tend to have. Feel is nice and cushioned while still having a somewhat crisp response. I think it has the most aggressively profiled shape of any of their square variations. The amount of action on my shots is just plain filthy. Balls just dive down on the baseline and serves just jump off the court. It essentially takes all of the positive attributes of TB and makes it easier to tap into. I know they were testing a round version of the string at one point but I have only had the shaped version.

The Angell polys are both round profile and very slippery feeling.
Thanks for the thorough response. I prefer shaped polys but had grommet issues after initially switching to Angell rackets. These issues have largely been resolved after finding a better stringer so I'm eager to try some of the square shaped polyps available, including TB. I enjoyed Ultra Cable in my Pure Strike, so maybe TB will work well. I bet I would enjoy 3.0 based on your description.
 
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aehjmeyer

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Tourna BHS7T 16g in ASL2 was great for me tonight at 50#. Great pocketing and control, really allowed me to go for and make big forehands. If durability is as advertised, I’ll definitely be buying a reel.
 

esm

Semi-Pro
Question - with everything being equal, would it be wise to drop the tension say by a couple of lb for TC95 if the setup on TC100 is what is preferred?
 

esm

Semi-Pro
I go 1-2 kg lower on my TC95 compared to my TC100
Cool - I might try the half way point and see (3lb) lol
Btw this is for fb co-poly setup. Just had a thought that maybe I should try different tension setup in different head sizes.
I had the same tension when I had fb Halo 3 on both TC100 and TC95.
 
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tpro2000

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Thank you for the quick response.
I will do the 2nd TC95 with the same sting but 2lbs less on the mains and crosses and have a go at it to see what the differences would be. Lol. Thanks.
My TC95 was at 45/42#, and I've kept my TC100 at 45/42 when need a little extra, and 47/44 for a little more control

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Thanks for the thorough response. I prefer shaped polys but had grommet issues after initially switching to Angell rackets. These issues have largely been resolved after finding a better stringer so I'm eager to try some of the square shaped polyps available, including TB. I enjoyed Ultra Cable in my Pure Strike, so maybe TB will work well. I bet I would enjoy 3.0 based on your description.
Only have a couple brief hits with my ASL2's in but thoroughly impressed so far. Stayed in virtually every point with one 5.0 partner that usually rolls me and last night I completely hit another of my 5.0 friends off the court with it. Powerful groundstrokes feel effortless and I've been mixing in great volleys and drop shots. I changed the grips to Angell Hybrid Pros and that was a worthwhile change for me. Time will tell if I'm just honeymooning but early results are super positive. Only drawback is that it is definitely going to go through string faster than my DR98 or Blade.

The blue Angell prototype string is pretty nice. Not as much grip as my usual shaped Solinco, but for a round poly it has solid spin, nice feel, good amount of pop without being wild and seems to be holding up well. Not sure it does anything amazing enough to standout as a full set but I bet it would make a really nice cross string in a gut hybrid. I think Confidential 3.0 is going to be the real home run in this racquet when I string it up.
 

aehjmeyer

New User
Glad to hear! I enjoy my ASL2 much more now that I have 16g S7T in it. Makes me think I’ve wasted time with several 17g options previously. I’ll prob try Ice Code next. Any experience with it?
 
Glad to hear! I enjoy my ASL2 much more now that I have 16g S7T in it. Makes me think I’ve wasted time with several 17g options previously. I’ll prob try Ice Code next. Any experience with it?
I tested it when it came out and thought it was ok. For me the power level was a little erratic and I thought it played more powerfully than a lot of people say. It had good spin for not being shaped and decent control once I figured out the power a bit more. My biggest knock was I didn’t find it to have a responsive feel. It was muted and just kind of flexed and sent the ball back the other way. Didn’t think I could really feel the ball on the strings all that much. But it was very comfortable with plenty of pop and enough spin and durability from a round string
 

aehjmeyer

New User
Yeah I bought it to tame the ASL2 based on TW reviews. Then reports of being more powerful than expected creeped in...we shall see. ASL2 definitely needs a control poly.
 
Hello everyone! can you help me to figure out this weight set up. Please let me know which TC Angell 95 or 100 (9 points, 10 points...12 points) weight set up coming out close to 324 SW and 6 points head light after strung and over grip. Thanks so much for helping!
 

tpro2000

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Hello everyone! can you help me to figure out this weight set up. Please let me know which TC Angell 95 or 100 (9 points, 10 points...12 points) weight set up coming out close to 324 SW and 6 points head light after strung and over grip. Thanks so much for helping!
Are you looking for a swingweight or static weight of 324? Also, do you prefer one headsize over another?
 
I have no reference regarding head size. I am ok with either 95 or 100. I am trying to figure out which one from the Angell weight balance (310/315 9 points, 320/310 10 points.....etc) coming out closer to 324 SW and 6 points head light after strung. I believe the weight balance on the Angell web site are before string. I am very bad at this.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Just a quick thought without working the numbers, but the 320g/310mm will put you up near 340+ with stringing/grip. If it was a choice between those two specs I'd go with the 310g/315mm. You could add lead if needed to change the balance.

I checked the site too, and it seems that the 310/315 would probably be the best option.

Maybe some other of the Angell gurus could weigh in as well :)
 

alexdedo

New User
Hi guys,

I decided to upgrade from the V2 to V3 TC95 70RA 16x19 but found they play much softer/plusher than the previous model, maybe due to the new micro-braided layup? To many this would be a benefit but unfortunately I cannot get used to it, they still have a uniform flex but to me they feel like 63-64 RA strung.
Anyway, I am selling them for less than half price. I can also order different pallets for a small fee. DM me if you’re interested.

 

SaaKha

New User
Ordered a TC97 18x20 330g 305mm. Came this morning and having it strung with hyper g at 48. Can’t wait to hit with it. Anyone have any string recommendations to try after?
 

aehjmeyer

New User
Nice! Oddly enough after seeing all the love BH SIlver Tour gets on here, I tried it and hated it (even more surprising since I was a long time Tour Bite user). Only thing I'm concerned about string wise w/ the ASL is that I've been playing 17g for awhile but that was in 16x19 patterns that had 8 mains in the middle. The last time I used a 16x19 w/ 6 mains in the middle, I had to go to 16 or 16L bc I broke 17g every 3-4 hours. I'm curious to see how the Angell prototypes play and I need to see if Paul has more info he can give me since they came completely unmarked. Right now the blue Solinco 3.0 string has been far and away my favorite string.
Looks like your blue Angell string along with 3 other new strings are now available online. The 7 and 4-sided shaped polys could be worth a try....
 
Saw that! I’ll have to string up the other set of Touch. Wish I would have gotten the shaped ones to test since that’s usually what I use.

Strings definitely wear faster in this pattern than my previous 16x19 with 8 mains. I hit with my 17g Confidential 2.0 yesterday and it was already toast. Probably going to have to go to a thicker gauge.
 

haqq777

Legend
I have no reference regarding head size. I am ok with either 95 or 100. I am trying to figure out which one from the Angell weight balance (310/315 9 points, 320/310 10 points.....etc) coming out closer to 324 SW and 6 points head light after strung. I believe the weight balance on the Angell web site are before string. I am very bad at this.
Angell TC lines static weight and balance are adjusted by weight in the pallets. Hairpins are the same for all configurations in same line. So regardless of configuration, as long as the racquet is standard length (27 inches) they will have same swingweight.

For example, the 300g and 310g TC97 with 9pt HL and 6pt HL balance will have the same swingweight, just different weights in handle which determine their balance. Weight placement in handle has minimal affect on swingweight. Balance is what will make it more or less maneuverable.

Best thing I can recommend is that you shoot Paul a message. Angell team is fantastic in replying on FB quickly. You can directly ask Paul about your desired end specs and he can guide you better on what line to choose with what specs. His entire business is customization and he knows all this stuff very well. But yeah, general rule of thumb is swingweight remains same regardless of static weight. You can offcourse add lead to increase swingweight later on if you choose a lighter spec.
 
Picked up a matched pair of Angell TC97 16x19’s with strung specs of 349/31.5/335. Strung them up with Head Gravity hybrid at 63# and wow! Just wow!!!! I’d forgotten just how good these frames really are in just about every aspect of the game. I’m back, Angellites!!


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Dallasatl

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I want to try the TC97... please help

I bought a TC95 love it, just got a TC100 love it differently ... both are 16x19 and 63ra

I’ve read everything about the 95, 97 and 100 but it doesn’t make sense to me why everyone says the TC97 plays/feels different then the 95 and 100.

Does it really ? Or is it just a personal preference and throw in so many different stringing preferences.., is it not just something in between the 95 and 100??!

Or do I try the K7 red ??? I know it’s made differently

Trying to settle on an one .... so I can buy 2 more ..


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Classic-TXP-IG MID

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I want to try the TC97... please help

I bought a TC95 love it, just got a TC100 love it differently ... both are 16x19 and 63ra

I’ve read everything about the 95, 97 and 100 but it doesn’t make sense to me why everyone says the TC97 plays/feels different then the 95 and 100.

Does it really ? Or is it just a personal preference and throw in so many different stringing preferences.., is it not just something in between the 95 and 100??!

Or do I try the K7 red ??? I know it’s made differently

Trying to settle on an one .... so I can buy 2 more ..


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The beam shape, stiffness, and flex profile of the TC95 and TC97 are totally different, therefore, they play very differently from one another. The TC95 and TC100 both have the D-Beam shape and flex uniformly from the throat onwards. The TC97 has a stiff throat and flexes in the head. Furthermore, the TC97 has a strung RA of 63 (unstrung is 66RA), whilst the TC95 is 63RA unstrung which is 60RA or lower strung. The TC95 also comes in a 70RA Unstrung version (which I haven't tried so can't compare).

I find the TC95 63RA (I have both string patterns) to play much softer, it feels much better in hand (personal preference), and I like how it flexes better. I have both the TC95 and TC97 (in both string patterns) and I can play with both, both are great racquets, but if I had to choose just one of them, I would choose the TC95 63RA 18x20 (for the moment).

I tried the K7 Red but didn't gel with it and found the TC line racquets to play better. I have not tried the K7 Lime so I can't comment on that one, but I have not tried it as the K7 Red experience wasn't as positive for me as the TC Line.

Hope that helps.
 
The beam shape, stiffness, and flex profile of the TC95 and TC97 are totally different, therefore, they play very differently from one another. The TC95 and TC100 both have the D-Beam shape and flex uniformly from the throat onwards. The TC97 has a stiff throat and flexes in the head. Furthermore, the TC97 has a strung RA of 63 (unstrung is 66RA), whilst the TC95 is 63RA unstrung which is 60RA or lower strung. The TC95 also comes in a 70RA Unstrung version (which I haven't tried so can't compare).

I find the TC95 63RA (I have both string patterns) to play much softer, it feels much better in hand (personal preference), and I like how it flexes better. I have both the TC95 and TC97 (in both string patterns) and I can play with both, both are great racquets, but if I had to choose just one of them, I would choose the TC95 63RA 18x20 (for the moment).

I tried the K7 Red but didn't gel with it and found the TC line racquets to play better. I have not tried the K7 Lime so I can't comment on that one, but I have not tried it as the K7 Red experience wasn't as positive for me as the TC Line.

Hope that helps.
Well said. The TC95 is just too powerful for me. This, in tandem with the higher launch angle it possesses, curbed my enthusiasm for playing the all court attacking style that serves me best.


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Classic-TXP-IG MID

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Well said. The TC95 is just too powerful for me. This, in tandem with the higher launch angle it possesses, curbed my enthusiasm for playing the all court attacking style that serves me best.


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I hear you... that's why I'm looking to find the right thicker gauge string to control both the launch angle and power of the TC95 16x19 and why I prefer the 18x20 at the moment. Greater control and lower launch angle.
 

Gee

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The beam shape, stiffness, and flex profile of the TC95 and TC97 are totally different, therefore, they play very differently from one another. The TC95 and TC100 both have the D-Beam shape and flex uniformly from the throat onwards. The TC97 has a stiff throat and flexes in the head. Furthermore, the TC97 has a strung RA of 63 (unstrung is 66RA), whilst the TC95 is 63RA unstrung which is 60RA or lower strung. The TC95 also comes in a 70RA Unstrung version (which I haven't tried so can't compare).

I find the TC95 63RA (I have both string patterns) to play much softer, it feels much better in hand (personal preference), and I like how it flexes better. I have both the TC95 and TC97 (in both string patterns) and I can play with both, both are great racquets, but if I had to choose just one of them, I would choose the TC95 63RA 18x20 (for the moment).

I tried the K7 Red but didn't gel with it and found the TC line racquets to play better. I have not tried the K7 Lime so I can't comment on that one, but I have not tried it as the K7 Red experience wasn't as positive for me as the TC Line.

Hope that helps.
The TC95 18x20 63RA is also my favourite Angell though I play with the Wilson Ultra Tour at the moment. The UT has just a little bigger headsize but feels very similar to the TC95. No wonder as they both have a graphite/foam construction.
 

OlgaOM

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I want to try the TC97... please help

I bought a TC95 love it, just got a TC100 love it differently ... both are 16x19 and 63ra

I’ve read everything about the 95, 97 and 100 but it doesn’t make sense to me why everyone says the TC97 plays/feels different then the 95 and 100.

Does it really ? Or is it just a personal preference and throw in so many different stringing preferences.., is it not just something in between the 95 and 100??!

Or do I try the K7 red ??? I know it’s made differently

Trying to settle on an one .... so I can buy 2 more ..


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I have/ play regularly with TC97, TC 100 same specs (16x19) and K7 Red. TC97 is my favorite. It definitely plays different from TC100 - more control, a bit less spin, better on volleys. TC100 noticeably more clumsy for me due to higher swing weight ‍♀ Although I like the spin and serves.
K7 Red completely different feel, it’s easy to play with, but I cannot play aggressive game with it, and for some weird reason it bugs my elbow more than TC series.
hope it helps :)
 
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The TC95 18x20 63RA is also my favourite Angell though I play with the Wilson Ultra Tour at the moment. The UT has just a little bigger headsize but feels very similar to the TC95. No wonder as they both have a graphite/foam construction.
I have both the TC95 and the UT but I haven't played them side-by-side with identical strings and tension. Will probably do that at some point.
 
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Dallasatl

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The beam shape, stiffness, and flex profile of the TC95 and TC97 are totally different, therefore, they play very differently from one another. The TC95 and TC100 both have the D-Beam shape and flex uniformly from the throat onwards. The TC97 has a stiff throat and flexes in the head. Furthermore, the TC97 has a strung RA of 63 (unstrung is 66RA), whilst the TC95 is 63RA unstrung which is 60RA or lower strung. The TC95 also comes in a 70RA Unstrung version (which I haven't tried so can't compare).

I find the TC95 63RA (I have both string patterns) to play much softer, it feels much better in hand (personal preference), and I like how it flexes better. I have both the TC95 and TC97 (in both string patterns) and I can play with both, both are great racquets, but if I had to choose just one of them, I would choose the TC95 63RA 18x20 (for the moment).

I tried the K7 Red but didn't gel with it and found the TC line racquets to play better. I have not tried the K7 Lime so I can't comment on that one, but I have not tried it as the K7 Red experience wasn't as positive for me as the TC Line.

Hope that helps.
Thank you for the reply. Wondering if the TC100 with 18x20 would settle down the launch angle enough to make it worth a try. I haven’t read anything about TC100 18x20....


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Lozannois

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Hi folks,

Two Angell TC97 custom v3 in absolut perfect conditions (like new, used less than 10 hours) to be sold at very cheap price ! Look at classified field or pm me for more details. Thank you

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