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Lozannois

Rookie
Hi, what are your conclusions after these approx. 10 hours? What did you dislike? Are they 16x19 or 18x20
18x20.

They are very good sticks and high quality built. But you need to have good technique because sweet spot is not big... Better to hit in the Center of the frame. But control and power are very good.

Today I prefer the Blade V7. That's why I sell them

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edelp

Semi-Pro
I see, thanks. I understand, have the 18x20 V3 myself. Agree, it is wonderful but (for me) rather demanding. Was wondering on how the open pattern would perform, as well vs. the TC100 (that is my go-to) and the tc95 16x19. But might read through the thread with a glass (bottle?) of wine at one moment to find input on that comparison. :)
 
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tpro2000

Rookie
I kind of want to pickup a TC97 just for fun. Had a 95 and it just wasn't for me, and I love my TC100. Maybe it's like one of those "gotta collect em all" Pokemon type additions haha :-D
 

tpro2000

Rookie
yes. currently with PSGD and will try a textured poly. not sure about this racquet at this time...

tied up your TC95 with YPTP and 43# and it was really nice
That's awesome about the 95! It definitely needs low tension. My friend who loves the Clash added a lot of weight to the handle to make it "whippier" as he put it. I wouldn't mind picking one up to mess with it, but the 100/100T didn't seem to have as much spin as people talked about imo
 

esm

Hall of Fame
question - anyone "lucky enough" to have tried the new Halo Comfort sting?
is it as soft as the website says?
 
question - anyone "lucky enough" to have tried the new Halo Comfort sting?
is it as soft as the website says?
yes I’ve played it. It’s quite comfortable. Good power and feel at the net. Not as much grip as a shaped poly but spin was good for a round string. It’d make a good slick cross for a hybrid. Flexed well on contract and has a cushioned response without feeling mushy. I liked it a lot more than the new Touch string.
 
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graycrait

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Can any Angell enthusiasts possibly compare this: CUSTOM V3 TC95 – 18 X 20 to a Babolat Pure Storm LTD+ GT 95 or a Pure Control Plus 95? Why? I have a trio of those Babolats in 27.5 that I really really like and when I look at what is currently available that compares to these the Angell 95 18x20 seems to be about the only option.
 

SpinRail

New User
I've been using Angell rackets since about 2017, I'm just late to this thread I guess. Anyhoo, my long-time racket configuration has been the TC100 16x19, 70RA, 320g, 10ptsHL (310mm), absolutely lovely rackets. I did just order a V3 custom that's 310g and 315mm (9ptsHL) just to try it, since I've been curious about how a slightly lighter version would be like in a direct 1-1 comparison. I string them with one of two Weiss Cannon poly strings, or more regularly, the RS Lyon poly at around 45lbs +- 2lbs.

I could not ask for better rackets, they have everything: Spin, power, control, and feel that tops everything I've tried before or since. I have absolute confidence in the racket when it comes to any and every shot, and I think it's rather comforting to know when things feel off or I missed a shot that it's me, not the racket.

And an underrated aspect of Angell rackets, in my opinion, is that since they are extremely consistent across years and updates, opting for them takes you out of the endless cycle of the main brands, wherein you love a racket, and then within a year or two it's being phased out, or it's been "updated" and the update is markedly different, and then you end up either trying to hunt down frames while they're still in circulation, or start the racket-trying process over again. I went through lots of rackets that I tried, liked, got, then got grass-is-greener syndrome and started testing different rackets once more. Since switching to the Angell frames, I've never felt the urge to try other rackets, even when working at tennis shops where I had to sell all of the usual suspects or string every racket under the sun.

*Edited and expanded the last paragraph a bit to be a little more detailed.
 
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topspn

Legend
I've been using Angell rackets since about 2017, I'm just late to this thread I guess. Anyhoo, my long-time racket configuration has been the TC100 16x19, 70RA, 320g, 10ptsHL (310mm), absolutely lovely rackets. I did just order a V3 custom that's 310g and 315mm (9ptsHL) just to try it, since I've been curious about how a slightly lighter version would be like in a direct 1-1 comparison. I string them with one of two Weiss Cannon poly strings, or more regularly, the RS Lyon poly at around 45lbs +- 2lbs.

I could not ask for better rackets, they have everything: Spin, power, control, and feel that tops everything I've tried before or since. I have absolute confidence in the racket when it comes to any and every shot, and I think it's rather comforting to know when things feel off or I missed a shot that it's me, not the racket.

And underrated aspect of Angell rackets, in my opinion, is that since they are extremely consistent across years and updates, opting for them takes you out of the endless cycle of the main brands, wherein you love a racket, and then within a year or two it's being phased out, or it's been "updated" and the update is markedly different, and then you end up either trying to hunt down frames while they're still in circulation, or start the racket-trying process over again. I went through lots of rackets that I tried, liked, got, then got grass-is-greener syndrome and started testing different rackets once more. Since switching to the Angell frames, I've never felt the urge to try other rackets, even when working at tennis shops where I had to sell all of the usual suspects or string every racket under the sun.

*Edited and expanded the last paragraph a bit to be a little more detailed.
I have it but 310g and 7HL instead of 9HL and personally much prefer the balance that way. Strung and with OG, comes in around 5.5-6HL
 

tpro2000

Rookie
I've been using Angell rackets since about 2017, I'm just late to this thread I guess. Anyhoo, my long-time racket configuration has been the TC100 16x19, 70RA, 320g, 10ptsHL (310mm), absolutely lovely rackets. I did just order a V3 custom that's 310g and 315mm (9ptsHL) just to try it, since I've been curious about how a slightly lighter version would be like in a direct 1-1 comparison. I string them with one of two Weiss Cannon poly strings, or more regularly, the RS Lyon poly at around 45lbs +- 2lbs.

I could not ask for better rackets, they have everything: Spin, power, control, and feel that tops everything I've tried before or since. I have absolute confidence in the racket when it comes to any and every shot, and I think it's rather comforting to know when things feel off or I missed a shot that it's me, not the racket.

And underrated aspect of Angell rackets, in my opinion, is that since they are extremely consistent across years and updates, opting for them takes you out of the endless cycle of the main brands, wherein you love a racket, and then within a year or two it's being phased out, or it's been "updated" and the update is markedly different, and then you end up either trying to hunt down frames while they're still in circulation, or start the racket-trying process over again. I went through lots of rackets that I tried, liked, got, then got grass-is-greener syndrome and started testing different rackets once more. Since switching to the Angell frames, I've never felt the urge to try other rackets, even when working at tennis shops where I had to sell all of the usual suspects or string every racket under the sun.

*Edited and expanded the last paragraph a bit to be a little more detailed.
I agree about the TC100. I got 310g/315mm used on purpose to build up the grip and add weight as needed. I'm stringing mine at 47/44 and seems to be perfect currently.

Even with it currently at 348g, with about the same swingweight, it doesn't feel the heavy at all compared to other racquets of similar static/sw.

I've tried others for fun but nothing in a 100 head size can compare.

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I have it but 310g and 7HL instead of 9HL and personally much prefer the balance that way. Strung and with OG, comes in around 5.5-6HL
hey @topspn I can see on your signature that you are back on the Angell frames, and now from TC95 to TC100. I have also put my TC95 on hold and play with TC100 now, I kind of rediscovered my TC100 when I started to play FB poly, suddenly I could control the frame, and I really love the frame, now also on 3 frames TC100 v3 63RA.

Would you like to share your journey back to Angell, also what string and tension you prefer for the TC100.

I am testing some different string setup, right now I really like Cyber Flash 17L at 20kg (44lb)

cheers, Toby
 

SpinRail

New User
I have it but 310g and 7HL instead of 9HL and personally much prefer the balance that way. Strung and with OG, comes in around 5.5-6HL
I prefer very head light, so my main concern is that it will be noticeably less HL compared to my normal 11.4oz (323g, I think?) frames. I'm curious how it affects stability as well, since my default forehands are very topspinny so there can be more torsion on my wrist and arm if my stroke is feeling off and I haven't yet zeroed in a flatter swing to smooth things out.

The specs for the Angell frames I've been using for the past couple years are pretty much lifted straight from the Wilson Blade 93 from a few years ago, except with an open string pattern. I'd been using the blade 93 and the 6.1.95 and basically wanted an open, 100in^2 version of those and Angell delivered and then some.
 

SpinRail

New User
hey @topspn I can see on your signature that you are back on the Angell frames, and now from TC95 to TC100. I have also put my TC95 on hold and play with TC100 now, I kind of rediscovered my TC100 when I started to play FB poly, suddenly I could control the frame, and I really love the frame, now also on 3 frames TC100 v3 63RA.

Would you like to share your journey back to Angell, also what string and tension you prefer for the TC100.

I am testing some different string setup, right now I really like Cyber Flash 17L at 20kg (44lb)

cheers, Toby
I'm not topspn, but I did try perhaps 100-ish polys on the Angells over the course of 6-8 months ^^ always love talking strings.
 
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I'm not topspn, but I did try perhaps 100-ish polys on the Angells over the course of 6-8 months ^^ always love talking strings.
GREAT @SpinRail :) I have just started to use poly. I have had TE before with poly, but my arm seem to be able to handle poly with Angell racquets. I struggled with control on my TC100 (my first Angell) and multi strings, went through TC95 both 16x19 and 18x20 and TC97 16x19, but when I decided to try out poly in the TC100 I fell kind of in love with the TC100. Suddenly I could control the ball, and still have the power on tap, what a beautiful experience.

So now I am testing soft poly strings in my TC100 (have 3 matched racquets)

1. Cyber Flash
2. Head Sonic Pro
3. Gut / ZX pro

I string low at 20kg (44lb)

Next in line is:

Head lynx
Torn Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour
Vokl V-Torque Tour
Tier One Firewire Boost (Hybrid)
Tier One Firewire / RIP (Hybrid)
Tier One Ghost Wire

What is your experience with the TC100 and string / tension.

Cheers, Toby
 

SpinRail

New User
GREAT @SpinRail :) I have just started to use poly. I have had TE before with poly, but my arm seem to be able to handle poly with Angell racquets. I struggled with control on my TC100 (my first Angell) and multi strings, went through TC95 both 16x19 and 18x20 and TC97 16x19, but when I decided to try out poly in the TC100 I fell kind of in love with the TC100. Suddenly I could control the ball, and still have the power on tap, what a beautiful experience.

So now I am testing soft poly strings in my TC100 (have 3 matched racquets)

1. Cyber Flash
2. Head Sonic Pro
3. Gut / ZX pro

I string low at 20kg (44lb)

Next in line is:

Head lynx
Torn Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour
Vokl V-Torque Tour
Tier One Firewire Boost (Hybrid)
Tier One Firewire / RIP (Hybrid)
Tier One Ghost Wire

What is your experience with the TC100 and string / tension.

Cheers, Toby
Ironically enough I haven't tried any of those haha. I went through Kirschbaum, Luxilon, Weiss Cannon, Solinco, Diadem, Ytex, Tourna, Pacific, and then Volkl Cyclone and Babolat RPM, and the two Soderling polys.

If you're using the 63RA TC100 then I'm not sure how useful I'll be, I don't have a good personal sense of how that affects the string choice compared to the 70RA.

Anyways, onto the strings. I'm a big fan of poly string at lower tensions, with only a small increase in tension for the tie-offs, and with the string pull set to the slowest speed on your machine if you've got an electronic tension head. I've only ever gone as low as 43lbs on my frame, but I've heard people recommend even lower, in the mid to high 30s, while still maintaining control - it's gonna be highly dependent on your swings, but in general I'd definitely recommend keeping the tension under 50lbs and stringing (or asking your stringer) to put as little stress on the string as possible. It's likely you'll find they last longer and maintain more comfort that way, although you still need to keep an eye on when they need replacing, as they might die before breaking most of the time.

The TC 100 is more comfortable than any racket I've tried, as it even made Luxilon feel somewhat comfortable, but I'd consider staying away from Luxilon and a lot of the pure spin-oriented polys - the ones with 70,000 edges and all that - if you've had tennis elbow experiences in the past. RPM and Cyclone partially fell into that category for me - they felt rather comfy at times, but other times not so much. So soft strings like you've focused on definitely seem to be the way to go.

The only non-round poly that I really loved is the Weiss Cannon rock 'n power poly (not the hybrid of the same name). It's an absolute nightmare to string and you could freaking shave with it, but it's sooooo much fun to hit with - stupid amounts of spin and power, solid touch, good durability, and surprising comfort in sort of a dense foam way. It's not for everyone but it's a very interesting string - finding it in the US was difficult for me but there are reels available if you hunt for them. Weiss also makes the smooth Silverstring poly which I enjoy, but it's not quite as comfy or consistent-feeling as the RS Lyon.

The Angell soft polys are super comfy and fun to hit with in my experience, but they didn't last long for me.

I really highly recommend trying the smooth Soderling poly, RS Lyon. That's the one I keep coming back to, it does everything well - I'd call it very neutral in a sense. If you hit with a lot of spin in general, you'll find plenty with it, if you hit with power, it doesn't limit you, etc.

So yeah, that's my 3 cents. In general I really recommend low tensions for poly strings, as long as you have full swings and your racket face doesn't open up often, it's my experience that you can swing away in comfort and still see that ball divebomb the baseline or put volleys and serves where you want them.
 

landcookie

Semi-Pro
I've got 2 tc100s, one at 63ra and the other at 70ra. I find the 70ra to give me better control, especially on volleys, but since it's much harsher on the arm I use it mostly for doubles or a backup to the 63ra. Anyone else have a similar experience?
 
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Ironically enough I haven't tried any of those haha. I went through Kirschbaum, Luxilon, Weiss Cannon, Solinco, Diadem, Ytex, Tourna, Pacific, and then Volkl Cyclone and Babolat RPM, and the two Soderling polys.

If you're using the 63RA TC100 then I'm not sure how useful I'll be, I don't have a good personal sense of how that affects the string choice compared to the 70RA.

Anyways, onto the strings. I'm a big fan of poly string at lower tensions, with only a small increase in tension for the tie-offs, and with the string pull set to the slowest speed on your machine if you've got an electronic tension head. I've only ever gone as low as 43lbs on my frame, but I've heard people recommend even lower, in the mid to high 30s, while still maintaining control - it's gonna be highly dependent on your swings, but in general I'd definitely recommend keeping the tension under 50lbs and stringing (or asking your stringer) to put as little stress on the string as possible. It's likely you'll find they last longer and maintain more comfort that way, although you still need to keep an eye on when they need replacing, as they might die before breaking most of the time.

The TC 100 is more comfortable than any racket I've tried, as it even made Luxilon feel somewhat comfortable, but I'd consider staying away from Luxilon and a lot of the pure spin-oriented polys - the ones with 70,000 edges and all that - if you've had tennis elbow experiences in the past. RPM and Cyclone partially fell into that category for me - they felt rather comfy at times, but other times not so much. So soft strings like you've focused on definitely seem to be the way to go.

The only non-round poly that I really loved is the Weiss Cannon rock 'n power poly (not the hybrid of the same name). It's an absolute nightmare to string and you could freaking shave with it, but it's sooooo much fun to hit with - stupid amounts of spin and power, solid touch, good durability, and surprising comfort in sort of a dense foam way. It's not for everyone but it's a very interesting string - finding it in the US was difficult for me but there are reels available if you hunt for them. Weiss also makes the smooth Silverstring poly which I enjoy, but it's not quite as comfy or consistent-feeling as the RS Lyon.

The Angell soft polys are super comfy and fun to hit with in my experience, but they didn't last long for me.

I really highly recommend trying the smooth Soderling poly, RS Lyon. That's the one I keep coming back to, it does everything well - I'd call it very neutral in a sense. If you hit with a lot of spin in general, you'll find plenty with it, if you hit with power, it doesn't limit you, etc.

So yeah, that's my 3 cents. In general I really recommend low tensions for poly strings, as long as you have full swings and your racket face doesn't open up often, it's my experience that you can swing away in comfort and still see that ball divebomb the baseline or put volleys and serves where you want them.
thanks @SpinRail I will grab some RS Lyon sets of Black Friday sales, they are down to about USD 8.30 (BP 6.40 at UK site). RS Lyon reel 200m @ BP 80 (USD 102) that is a real deal....

I will also try to string with a softer pull, I have a Wise 2086 stringing head. Could also be interesting to try a Sergetti stringing.

I am trying to narrow my choice down to a few arm friendly polys and stick to them, arm safety is highest priority.

Cheers, Toby
 

landcookie

Semi-Pro
thanks @SpinRail I will grab some RS Lyon sets of Black Friday sales, they are down to about USD 8.30 (BP 6.40 at UK site). RS Lyon reel 200m @ BP 80 (USD 102) that is a real deal....

I will also try to string with a softer pull, I have a Wise 2086 stringing head. Could also be interesting to try a Sergetti stringing.

I am trying to narrow my choice down to a few arm friendly polys and stick to them, arm safety is highest priority.

Cheers, Toby
You should give Isopseed cream/ baseline a go.

I'm also on the hunt for an arm friendlier set up for my tc100. Most comfortable I've tried so far is isospeed by a mile, followed by hyper g. Am about to try gut/poly and will ND interesting to see how that goes
 

haqq777

Legend
Can any Angell enthusiasts possibly compare this: CUSTOM V3 TC95 – 18 X 20 to a Babolat Pure Storm LTD+ GT 95 or a Pure Control Plus 95? Why? I have a trio of those Babolats in 27.5 that I really really like and when I look at what is currently available that compares to these the Angell 95 18x20 seems to be about the only option.
Very different playing and feeling sticks. The Bab LTD+ were 19mm constant beam and TC95 is 20mm tapered beam with 'D' box section design. The TC95 18x20 is more powerful, more dampened and offers a crisper feedback. The LTD+ has more old school flex in the hoop, and you can tell it feels softer. It feels clunkier as well to a regular length TC95. Biggest difference to me would be the power. Even with extended LTD, there was a considerable difference. I played with poly in each strung at low-mid tension.
 

topspn

Legend
I prefer very head light, so my main concern is that it will be noticeably less HL compared to my normal 11.4oz (323g, I think?) frames. I'm curious how it affects stability as well, since my default forehands are very topspinny so there can be more torsion on my wrist and arm if my stroke is feeling off and I haven't yet zeroed in a flatter swing to smooth things out.

The specs for the Angell frames I've been using for the past couple years are pretty much lifted straight from the Wilson Blade 93 from a few years ago, except with an open string pattern. I'd been using the blade 93 and the 6.1.95 and basically wanted an open, 100in^2 version of those and Angell delivered and then some.
Yes, I understand there are many people out there that prefer to error on the side of HL as they are concerned about mobility of the frame. The balance on mine does feel pretty stable and for me also better feel of the tip of racquet so adds more to control. No issues with mobility at all as the static weight is still light at 310 unstrung.
 
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DJ-

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Yes, I understand there are many people out there that prefer to error on the side of HL as they are concerned about mobility of the frame. The balance on mine does feel pretty stable and for me also better feel of the tip of racquet so adds more to control. No issues with mobility at all as the static weight is still light at 310 unstrung.
Added the tc100's back to your bag ? Hard frame to give up ! ;-)
 

topspn

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hey @topspn I can see on your signature that you are back on the Angell frames, and now from TC95 to TC100. I have also put my TC95 on hold and play with TC100 now, I kind of rediscovered my TC100 when I started to play FB poly, suddenly I could control the frame, and I really love the frame, now also on 3 frames TC100 v3 63RA.

Would you like to share your journey back to Angell, also what string and tension you prefer for the TC100.

I am testing some different string setup, right now I really like Cyber Flash 17L at 20kg (44lb)

cheers, Toby
Yeah, I have tried tons of frames recently. I was really looking for a frame with a smidge more control and forgiveness. The most notable frames I have tried have been Dahcor, new blade 16M and Tecnifibre TF40 and XTC 300. These really stood out from the herd and i was especially surprised by Tecnifbre as it was a brand i was not familiar with. The feel is simply magically connected on those frames. I still have them all in my bag. I came to the TC100 as overall playability is just hard to beat. It has some tweener characteristics but also player’s frames elements. USTA matches I play or other leagues everyone is playing a forgiving tweener, they are just everywhere and i needed to keep up quite frankly. I currently have an experimental softer poly from Angell strung up @54lbs. I will be using Tour Bite 1.25 on the frame when it’s time to restring.
 
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You should give Isopseed cream/ baseline a go.

I'm also on the hunt for an arm friendlier set up for my tc100. Most comfortable I've tried so far is isospeed by a mile, followed by hyper g. Am about to try gut/poly and will ND interesting to see how that goes
I just played with Head Sonic Pro and loved that string even better and softer than Cyber Flash. I think Isospeed Baseline is the same string as Head Sonic Pro as Isospeed make this string for Head. I tried Cream but to my surplice found it played stiff, and I did not like the feel, this was a few years back and not in a TC100, might have to give Cream another chance.

Cheers, T
 

mxblink

Rookie
Just another plug for the ASL2. I was hesitant at first to get them since I wasn't sure what they'd offer over my TC95, but now it's become my main stick (though weighted up significantly to 342/33.2/342). It is easily the fastest swinging racquet with 340+ SW that I've ever had. It's also the first minimally-headlight stick I've played with at just 3.3 pts HL, but it doesn't feel clunky at all. Easy power, good stability, and soft feel, though the feel did take a bit to get used to (I assume it's the "siloxane" layer in the ASL line). I thought it was just the weighting and near-even balance, but I've tried weighting some of my other racquets similarly and it just hasn't been as nice.

One caveat is that the racquet *needs* lead at 3+9. When I first tried it, I put all the lead at 12 and I was pretty underwhelmed. Moved some to the sides - not much (I now have just 2.5g total) - and it totally transformed the stick for me.
 
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Oh man, I haven’t done 60’s since my junior days. I think the highest I got up to was RPM blast rough at 62# in a youtek microgel pro, but after I discovered BBO rough and then gut/poly I started to go way down. You should really try a mid 40’s fb of poly in the Angells, the pocketing is on another level. A full bed of RS Lyon at 46/43 in the TC95 almost feels as plush as gut poly for me. I did dig out all the foam and take the lead weights out of the hairpin and put in silicone though, so that might be helping just a bit.


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Oh man, I haven’t done 60’s since my junior days. I think the highest I got up to was RPM blast rough at 62# in a youtek microgel pro, but after I discovered BBO rough and then gut/poly I started to go way down. You should really try a mid 40’s fb of poly in the Angells, the pocketing is on another level. A full bed of RS Lyon at 46/43 in the TC95 almost feels as plush as gut poly for me. I did dig out all the foam and take the lead weights out of the hairpin and put in silicone though, so that might be helping just a bit.


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After reading this thread I tried the robin Soderling Lyon string and honestly was underwhelmed stringing at 46 pounds. I think I found my game with a thin beam, small head, strong tightly. Anything else requires adjustments to my swing path which likely lead to net loss and performance.

With this in mind however, I am really enjoying the TC 97 strong at 63 pounds with head gravity.


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After reading this thread I tried the robin Soderling Lyon string and honestly was underwhelmed stringing at 46 pounds. I think I found my game with a thin beam, small head, strong tightly. Anything else requires adjustments to my swing path which likely lead to net loss and performance.

With this in mind however, I am really enjoying the TC 97 strong at 63 pounds with head gravity.


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Gotcha! Yeah whatever works, I get bored and experiment just to see if there’s any innovations out there but I always come back to VS touch mains and ALU rough crosses at 55/52. I just stocked up on a pallet of gut and some Lux reels so I’m committed to stay with that setup for at least the next year, or until I fall for the next “miracle monofilament” lol.

How do you like the TC97 compared to the TC95? I’ve been liking the 95 (16x19, 63RA, 27in and 27.5in), but compared to the TC90 I feel like I have to always have to add a little extra spin or hold a little power in reserve to counteract the frame’s inherent power when I’m redlining and really going for my shots.

I played a friendly turkey day match with my cousin, a D1 player, and actually switched to an RF97 I just had customized (handle and metal plates removed and then my handle shape 3D printed on) because I had easier spin-control. I’d like to stick with Angell though, Wilson’s QC makes every racquet a gamble. I’m thinking both the TC97 and the K7 red would be fun hits. Any input would be greatly appreciated so I can do some Black Friday shopping today!


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Northern Michigan. I travel a lot for work between DC too though so I can also meet up for a hit if in DMV area if you ever plan a trip, BHBH :)
Near Traverse City? My wife’s cousin has a beautiful lake home there and we sometimes visit for vacations.


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