So I found a super easy way to flare the bottom of the butt cap (I have a C shape Angell pallet) and it worked to perfection. I feel like I can anchor in my hand better.
cool. nice way to mod without having to take off the base grip. I've done similar under the base grip with athletic tape and or lead tape.
I don't think that's weird at all. I know many that do that!
I strung mine with MSV Co-Focus 1.18mm (yellow colour) @ 48M/45C and it was awesome. I will try Volkl Cyclone 18L (1.15mm) at similar tension, as well as, Tier One Black Knight, Weiss Cannon Red Ghost, and Gut Mains/ Smooth poly crosses.Just purchased TC95 18x20. Looking for string and tension recommendations. I appreciate any input! Thanks.
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Do you play with your gut/poly set up till it snaps? If so, how long does gut/poly last you in the tc 100? Do you like to hit with a lot of spin?I am working my way down in tension, now playing with Tourna Silver 7 Tour at 42/40 on TC100, plays great ans still full control. I will god 40/38 on next string job as the S7T holds tension very well. My first experience with low tension poly, so any advice with tension and soft strings (with good tension stability) will be appreciated. How low can you go and still have control.
In my other Tc100 I have a hybrid of Gut / Isospeed professional Classic at 57/59 and it plays really great.
Have not had any luck with finding a good multi for the TC100, strings move all around, and I can't controll very well.
Gyt/poly hybrid for TC100, I am still on the outlook for the right cross string and tension, experimenting but have not found the setup yet. Next on my list is Grapplesnake Irukandji for a cross. For now my Gut/Iso hybrid play the best.
yes I play with a fair amount of spin.Do you play with your gut/poly set up till it snaps? If so, how long does gut/poly last you in the tc 100? Do you like to hit with a lot of spin?
does the Sergetti way really give you the 70% sweetspot, as claimed?I really like a FB of soft poly in the TC100, and I am experimenting with Sergitti Stringing Method and at this stage all I can say is: wow this is great. I am playing two matched racquets with same string and tension, one is strung as normal the other the Sergetti way.
I don't think that's weird at all. I know many that do that!
I've always had the button of the cap in the fleshy part of the palm pad, and my pinky the couple centimeters above the bottom.
I just hit with it again and I love that locked in feeling.
Next is to build it up like Gasquet! Jk
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also play with half my hand lower than buttcap for serve & groundstrokes but change grip position Higher on handle when volleying.
I’ve often ended up with a wobble in the lower part of the handle due to this, sent a few Angells back to Counter this, also had serious movement on a few head prestige’s & a blade over the years.
Hard to say exactly how much, but for sure the stringed feels much nicer, more harmonic, even and softer too.does the Sergetti way really give you the 70% sweetspot, as claimed?
Thanks for that. With this, does it mean you must need to know what is your string and tension of choice on a particular racquet?Hard to say exactly how much, but for sure the stringed feels much nicer, more harmonic, even and softer too.
I hit again this morning and I seem to hit everything in the sweet spot, not sure if that was the case but it sure felt like it.
Sergetti prices has come down, and there is still an Angell discount to apply, so I highly recommend to try it out.
I agree that the Sergetti Method really feels great. And I would add that the playability of the stringjob seems to last longer. My favourite setup in the TC100 63 RA is Yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.20 at 25.3kg in the mains and Halo 2 at 23.8 in the crosses.yes I play with a fair amount of spin.
I am still looking for the right gut/poly setup, I rally dont break the gut but I cut out the poly and restring. I am used to the gut/isospeed and string at higher tension 26kg/27kg and this setup plays really soft. Perhaps I string the gut too high in my gut/poly setup 25kg/20kg. The gut/iso last a long time, then the iso starts to fray and I cut out the cross and replace with a new string, and it plays great again,
I really like a FB of soft poly in the TC100, and I am experimenting with Sergitti Stringing Method and at this stage all I can say is: wow this is great. I am playing two matched racquets with same string and tension, one is strung as normal the other the Sergetti way.
The way Sergetti stringing works (as far as I understand) is that Sergetti has a database of Racquets and Strings and you chose your Racquet, your string and your tension and they will send you a tension sheet. I think stringing works best with an electronic stringing head, or you can bring the sheet to your stringer.Thanks for that. With this, does it mean you must need to know what is your string and tension of choice on a particular racquet?
What if there are two tension setups, does that mean you need to pay for two sheets? (Genuine question. Thanks.)
thanks for that. loads to take in.The way Sergetti stringing works (as far as I understand) is that Sergetti has a database of Racquets and Strings and you chose your Racquet, your string and your tension and they will send you a tension sheet. I think stringing works best with an electronic stringing head, or you can bring the sheet to your stringer.
Sergetti har 5 categories of strings 1-5 and it is shown at tha database in (x) after each string. I am sure there is more to it, but to me it seems like is corresponds with string stiffness (I guess this has to do with how much the string is stretching during stringing) Kevlar would be a (1), Monogut ZX would be a (5). If your favorite string (gauge matters too) is a (3) and you want to try another string that is also a (3) you can use the same tension sheet if you use the same tension.
The way that I do it is that I try out different strings and tension, strung the conventional way and I end up with a favorite combination for my TC100 - this could be Head Sonic Pro 17 (4 in Sergetti terms) at mains 22kg and crosses 21kg - then you type in these info at Sergetti and pay via PayPal and very shortly after they will send you a specific tension sheet.
Actually you don't need to have different tension between mains and crosses as Sergetti takes this into account, so the above example would equals 21.5kg by Sergetti method.
To answer your question, yes you have to order a new tension sheet for each parameter you change: Racquet, strings (only if in another category) and tension - so this is kind of the bad news if you play around with a lot of different racquets, strings and tensions (like I do).
The good news is that this method actually works, and me being a non believer (I can kind of understand the idea, but was not so sure I could feel anything different) I had to give in and accept that my stringed felt so much nicer.
In my tension sheet (19.5 kg) for a poly and TC100 - string variation goes from 22.6kg down to 14.5kg (one string all the way down to 7.7kg) - I was very sceptic when I installed, but very surprised when I played with the strinbed.
Dont take my word for it, but chose your favorite combination, and try it out - it cost nothing more than a set of Lux strings (Remember the Angell promo code for 25% off). If you have 2 matched racquets you can play the two string beds (conventional and Sergetti) back to back and see for your self. I am a convert, but you should only trust your own experience.
To sum up, I feel the Sergetti stringing method gives me a more even stringbed and a larger sweet spot, and that actually makes me trust my Racquet even more, and I can hit out and have fewer flyers. On top of that, and that is perhaps the most important for me: the stringbed seems softer, and off center hits does not hurt my arm.
I am only like 5-6 hours into my testing, so it could be a honeymoon, but I really think it is for real. I also need to test other strings to be a total convert. I have no conclusion yet to the longer playability, but so far so good.
I guess drop weight could work, but you can ask Serge at Sergetti, just shoot him an email with any questions (I did that and he answered all my questions very fast).thanks for that. loads to take in.
i had a quick look around their website and i have better understanding.
i now do my own stringing, but on a drop weight. you and them mentioned to use their tension sheet on an electronic machine/head.... so will that be an issue?
i guess it will be "more troublesome" to have to manually adjust the weight to get to the desired tension from the sheet...
(most of my strings i use i have in stock are Cat 5, and the rest are Cat 4..)
it is very tempting, but i need a few more sessions on the racquets to make my first move to the "dark side"...
Because it is designed box beam style like the TC97 and apparently share a layup. The TC95/100 are designed with a different D beam that has very uniform flex. So it will not play like TC100 but will play like a larger TC97Also can anyone explain why to compare TC101 with TC97 rather than with TC100?Cause It is an oversized racquet and I would expect it to be somehow closer to TC100...
Thank you @topspn! What about swing weight/clumsiness - if I pick the same specs as my TC97, would it have generally higher SW because of the head size?Because it is designed box beam style like the TC97 and apparently share a layup. The TC95/100 are designed with a different D beam that has very uniform flex. So it will not play like TC100 but will play like a larger TC97
I think you can ask Paul to customize the TC101 to match the SW of your TC97, just give him the number of your racquet or order number when ordering.
Yeah, best to ask Paul on facebook messenger https://www.facebook.com/AngellSport/?ref=page_internal
Hello! I can relate as I've also moved from the DR98 + to a TC 100 27.5. I have both the 63 and 70 RA.Hello to everyone, I am a current user of an slightly extended TC100 (27.25 inches, 320g) who is happy to have joined this thread about Angell racquets. In the past, I have extensively used the TC97 (27.25, 310g) and Yonex frames (ezone DR 98 +, DR 98, and AI 98). Yesterday, I ordered a pair of new TC101 (27.25 inches, 330g). I hope to be able to share with you my first impressions of these new racquets after trying them in a couple of weeks.
In the meantime, it would be great to hear if any of you had also experienced with extended length angell frames.
Best regards from Chile!
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me too... the flare gives me more leverage with said pinky that way. Im a classically trained violinist si my bow work has made my pinky a lot stronger than most peoples. I feel it really comes into play on my extreme grip backhands and on american twist second serves. The leverage just helps.I feel like I have my pinky right on the edge
unfortunately off the court at the moment, or I’d of bought a TC101. Ive been playing the TC97 for over 3 years now. Watched tennis nerds review & it appears that the 101 has a similar lower launch angle to the TC97 that I like. The area that interests me is the power, I’m thinking that because the beam width is the same as the 97, the power could be lower on the 101?I imagine the differences between the tc100and tc101 are very similar to the differences between the tc95 and tc97.
Since the TC101 has the same beam design and thickness as the TC97, but a larger head size, I think it will be slightly more powerful than the TC97 but not as powerful as the TC100.unfortunately off the court at the moment, or I’d of bought a TC101. Ive been playing the TC97 for over 3 years now. Watched tennis nerds review & it appears that the 101 has a similar lower launch angle to the TC97 that I like. The area that interests me is the power, I’m thinking that because the beam width is the same as the 97, the power could be lower on the 101?
If you look at tc95 vs tc100 the 100 has a thicker beam.
last time I played a very thin beam 100 was the POG (prince original graphite) loved this frames weight & feel but it was just too underpowered.
I think it is to do with the Beam shAlso can anyone explain why to compare TC101 with TC97 rather than with TC100?Cause It is an oversized racquet and I would expect it to be somehow closer to TC100...
@landcookie thank you for your response. I am very interested to hear more about your experiences from switching to Angell TC100 from your DR98+.Hello! I can relate as I've also moved from the DR98 + to a TC 100 27.5. I have both the 63 and 70 RA.
@SteveXtreme1978 I suspect going 27.25 instead of 27.5 has to do with swing weight. Paul noted that the 27.5 has a default SW of +/- 340.
Even though I had played my DR+ with some lead at 12 I thought I'd ask for a similar 335 SW on my TC100. Paul was a bit surprised that the DR98+ only had 335 swing weight.
I suspect it may be due to the frame construction of the DR98+, where it is stiffer and seems to have less material on the hoop, compared to the TC100 which has a uniform flex.
Much prefer the Angell myself and haven't looked at any other frames since switching almost a year ago. If you'd like to know more about my experience, be it strings set up etc just ask - happy to share.
So the trampoline effect of a longer string in the 101 will make the difference over the fact the 101 could well be less manoeuvrable. Interesting.Since the TC101 has the same beam design and thickness as the TC97, but a larger head size, I think it will be slightly more powerful than the TC97 but not as powerful as the TC100.
My V2 310g TC97’s end up around 325sw once strung and weigh around 330g. The V3’s seem to come with lower SW. tennis nerds 101 weighed over 342g and was just under 325sw. So worth trying to get a close match
Hmm. From memory and personal experience, here are the main differences:I think it is to do with the Beam sh
@landcookie thank you for your response. I am very interested to hear more about your experiences from switching to Angell TC100 from your DR98+.
I hit quite flat and play one handed slice backhands most and mostly doubles so will volley a lot. What would you say were the main differences between the 2 frames. Is the TC100 better for your arm as I have tennis elbow occasionally and does it give you more power. Does the extra SW feel heavier after some long matches? What kind of strings do you have on your TC100 and how do you play.
Also would you consider the new TC101?
I dont know that many who have liked it with a 2 hander so curious how you find it? For me it took dialing in the right strings because the power is surprising. But yeah... the fun factor. My main hitting partner will sometime hit something my zone to my backhand just so I can obliterate it (he's using a TC95 too now after a few years with the TC100). It took me a bit to dial in at the net with its power but doing the classic shrug bled off pace.Finally got my new 320g 10pt HL V3 TC95 63RA 16x19 out for some playing. Strung it with a hybrid- klip 16 nat gut mains vs kirsch max power @ 58/55 lbs. OG and dampener, lead at 3/9. Probably somewhere around 345-355g strung? I can usually tell how I feel about a racquet when playing mini tennis, and this started very well. Ton's of feel and control. I have heard people complaining about the launch angle being a bit high - but I felt it was really easy to flatten out and actually lower than my RF97A. My fears about the launch angle were pretty much immediately gone once I started.
The guy I played is a bit of a really athletic mixed junkballer. So, not the best playtest because of my opponent. I'll get a chance to play with my 4.5 level partner tomorrow for a better judge of things.
The overall take away with the TC95 is power and spin, and an overall dynamic versatility that was really "fun" to play with. I could not believe how much power this thing had for its size, and I found my forehand sailing long many times. My two handed backhand is going to take a little time to find center. OHBH was awesome when I set up for it. Slice backhand is amazing and precise. Volleys were stable and I could place them well. Took me a little bit to find my serve, but once I did - a lot of them were simply unreturnable. High bouncing kick serves and wide corners were easier than most other racquets. It can be a serious weapon in the right hands, and I look forward to getting adjusted to the power of this thing. Maybe once I finish with this hybrid, I'll try a full bed of poly in the low 50s or high 40s. I experienced zero arm pain.
I was losing the first set badly1-4 when I came back 2-4, then 3-5, evened it up at 5-5, and won 7-5. Second set, I found my serve and forehand a bit better and won 6-1. I just could not put it down and change racquets because of how much fun and versality I found. So a successful match against a guy that gives me a lot of trouble at times.
The strengths: power, spin, and good control for a frame that has this much power and spin. The feel was plush and comfortable - I would characterize it as a "solid" feel. It's not the softest feeling frame, but it's not stiff either...just felt right in the middle. Slice backhands, OHBH, volleys, and big serves with english'. More power than the K7, more control than the RF....power is on par with the RF. When I wanted to "turn it on", I could dial it up and back with effectiveness.
Negatives: Going to take me a little while to reign in some of the power on my forehand and serve to keep them inside the baseline, and access all of that spin potential to bring my balls down. My two handed backhand will take time to find center. It's less forgiving than my K7 Lime and V7 blade, and a lot of other 98 sq in frames out there. Less control than my K7 lime and old ti radical head mp 18x20. I was however able to hit more unreturnable winners than most other racquets I've used.
Bottom line: my interest is piqued and I will put in the time to keep adjusting and getting better with it, really really fun play test.
It definitely took me a while to find the sweet spot of the racquet with my two hander. Mishits did however go in, just with less power and were sometimes floaters. The two hander is my go to, but I can sporadically hit nice OHBH when I actually set up for it. I just need to practice that to get more consistent. I relied on a backhand slice which it does in spades when I was not feeling confident with the two hander.I dont know that many who have liked it with a 2 hander so curious how you find it? For me it took dialing in the right strings because the power is surprising. But yeah... the fun factor. My main hitting partner will sometime hit something my zone to my backhand just so I can obliterate it (he's using a TC95 too now after a few years with the TC100). It took me a bit to dial in at the net with its power but doing the classic shrug bled off pace.
Thanks @landcookie. Great feedback. Think I will take the plunge soon. Maybe a 63RA but I want the power so 70RA is appealing to me too. I use a hybrid setup on strings with Syn Gut in crosses so maybe 70RA is ok. Think I may go for a very slightly lighter TC100.Hmm. From memory and personal experience, here are the main differences:
- DR98+ flexes more at the hoop while TC100 is more uniform. I prefer the TC100 in this regard especially for volleys, especially the 70RA. DR98+ felt too 'noodley' at the net.
- TC100 has more power and spin. Bigger groundies, bigger and more action on the serve. IMO DR98+ plays quite flat as it had 8(?) mains in the throat Vs 6 for the TC100. I play with a lot of spin, more than some pros (even though I'm nowhere their level) , so this suits me.
- I can control spin better with the TC100. Depending on how you slice (flat, punchy slice or more side spin), you may prefer one or the other.
- TC100 feels more stable. I asked for twist weight but Paul said they dont have it in their data base.
- DR98+ swings faster, presumably due to the more aerodynamic hoop shape
- TC100 feels more solid in its construction. Even though my Tc100 and DR98+ have identical specs (static and swingweight) the TC100 just feels heavier in my hand.
- My TC100 comes with 335 SW so no different to DR98+. I can go for hours even with 340+ SW racquets as I'm relatively strong and explosive.
I used to play primarily tour bite 1.25 in my Yonex but now play with ng/poly hybrid in TC100 (more power!!) or full bed poly strung mid/low 40s. I can control powerful frames because I play with topspin.
I never had elbow issues with the DR but can sometimes feel a twinge in my elbow on the 70RA with a full bed poly so would advise to stay away and go with 63RA if you have elbow issues. The 70RA is still really plush but best err on the safe side.
No, wouldn't consider 101 as apparently it's construction is similar to the 97 which apparently flexes more at the hoop, like the DR. Plus I love my 100s.
Anything I miss?
The power difference between 63 and 70 RA is rather negligible. I find myself only using the 63RA these days and keeping the 70 as a spare. If, even on the DR, you get some elbow issues, I would personally stay away from the 70ra. I had zero issues with DR98+ and felt a little bit in the elbow with the 70RA.