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It definitely took me a while to find the sweet spot of the racquet with my two hander. Mishits did however go in, just with less power and were sometimes floaters. The two hander is my go to, but I can sporadically hit nice OHBH when I actually set up for it. I just need to practice that to get more consistent. I relied on a backhand slice which it does in spades when I was not feeling confident with the two hander.

I did however hit the most amazing two handed backhand with it...a powerful crosscourt passing shot that was well placed. That's the thing with this racquet - I found myself hitting just amazing shots....but it's not like I didn't also make errors. My errors were either mishits, or balls sailing long. I believe I can improve those things with more practice using it and perhaps some string adjustments. But I don't know if I necessarily hit more errors than usual. I may take some video today with it if I can get out , the weather is really nice in Orlando right now
yeah its a great all round stick but it has that same thing the PS85 has... when you really connect it just destroys stuff... far more than youd expect. The adjustments I made were to hiting at 75%-80% on rally balls and still drawing "forced" unforced errors from the heaviness it produces.

I wrote this classic review years ago: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/angell-tc95-16x19-flexy-shakedown.553138/ detailing my adjustment process
 

Dansan

Rookie
yeah its a great all round stick but it has that same thing the PS85 has... when you really connect it just destroys stuff... far more than youd expect. The adjustments I made were to hiting at 75%-80% on rally balls and still drawing "forced" unforced errors from the heaviness it produces.

I wrote this classic review years ago: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/angell-tc95-16x19-flexy-shakedown.553138/ detailing my adjustment process
Awesome review, wish I had found it sooner. Do you still use it after the years gone by and trying other frames? I am kind of honeymooning with it at this point, hope it lasts.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
I was skeptical at first. Didn't buy the hype. But now I'm drinking the TC95 Kool-Aid. Great racquet...has a butt-ton of firepower compared to the K7 Lime at the expense of a little bit of control. Very forgiving for a 95 sq inch frame, it took two sessions to gel with this thing but I haven't even looked at my RF, K7, blade, or PT 280.
Nicely written review! :) Do you notice the 95" - vs 97" headsize of your RF97 etc. - in terms of forgiveness? I'm more comfortable with a 97" headsize, but the beam and flex characteristics of the TC95 sound like they would provide more power, particularly on serve, than the TC97.
 

emhtennis

Semi-Pro
Somewhere pretty far back in this thread someone took a photo with both laying on top of each other, and you could barely see a difference.

It almost looks like an even hoop reduction, so having the whole hoop taken in by 1/8in (total guess) doesnt impact the stringbed much.

As everyone else has said, beam difference and flex are the difference. I have a 97 18x20 and love it, but all this 95 talk makes me want one of those now too [emoji33]

And about the serve. I have never served bigger than with my TC97. Used to play with a 1st gen pure strike and on a playsight court my first serve would average 105-108mph. My Angell has me averaging 108-111mph over the course of 2hrs of match play. Everyone does say that the 95 serves the biggest, maybe I'd start putting holes thru walls?

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esm

Hall of Fame
Somewhere pretty far back in this thread someone took a photo with both laying on top of each other, and you could barely see a difference.

It almost looks like an even hoop reduction, so having the whole hoop taken in by 1/8in (total guess) doesnt impact the stringbed much.

As everyone else has said, beam difference and flex are the difference. I have a 97 18x20 and love it, but all this 95 talk makes me want one of those now too [emoji33]

And about the serve. I have never served bigger than with my TC97. Used to play with a 1st gen pure strike and on a playsight court my first serve would average 105-108mph. My Angell has me averaging 108-111mph over the course of 2hrs of match play. Everyone does say that the 95 serves the biggest, maybe I'd start putting holes thru walls?

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The grommet fits for both the TC95 and TC97.
i have also fitted one of the TC95/TC97 grommets on K7 Red. So 95/96/98 are very close....8-B
 

Dansan

Rookie
Nicely written review! :) Do you notice the 95" - vs 97" headsize of your RF97 etc. - in terms of forgiveness? I'm more comfortable with a 97" headsize, but the beam and flex characteristics of the TC95 sound like they would provide more power, particularly on serve, than the TC97.
The difference between the two is minimal, I think because the RF has a thicker beam/hoop that the forgiveness is about even between the 95 vs 97 sq in. I had a couple mishits on my first session, but not enough to make me put the racquet down. I would even go so far to say that the TC95 is more forgiving than the RF. It's a touch lighter, swings through the air easier, and has a lot more feel. It doesn't feel like a brick like the RF does. It is def going to be noticeable though for those that are use to hitting 98-100sq in frames.
 
Awesome review, wish I had found it sooner. Do you still use it after the years gone by and trying other frames? I am kind of honeymooning with it at this point, hope it lasts.
The stick has really improved my game. I play a more relaxed and flowing game now and the TC95 is my thing. I have a big game and never ever win ugly because there is enough of that in life... for tennis its nice to bring the thunder and the TC95 is kinda the Thor's hammer of sticks. It forces me to be both patient and at the same time non complacent. If that makes any sense?
 

ChrisG

Professional
The stick has really improved my game. I play a more relaxed and flowing game now and the TC95 is my thing. I have a big game and never ever win ugly because there is enough of that in life... for tennis its nice to bring the thunder and the TC95 is kinda the Thor's hammer of sticks. It forces me to be both patient and at the same time non complacent. If that makes any sense?
I play for the beauty of the sport too, although I’m doing a lot of competition, I don’t mind loosing as long as I had some fun. TC95 is perfect for that, it’s unbelievable how much you can get from this stick if your tennis is generous.
Last week I trained with a friend who’s a former D2 player, and I managed (somehow...) to follow his pace and power mostly thanks to the racquet that allowed me to hit incredible shots with confidence. Power, precision, comfort, I don’t understand why people keep playing with anything else haha
 

skeeter

Professional
I just ordered the ASL2 directly from Angell and looking for to the legendary feel that Angell is known for. I too had to stop playing with the TF40 as it was too firm for my elbow. I just sold most of my racquets. I had the K7 Red but someone made me an offer to sell that could not be refused. The ASL2 appears to be quite unique to anything else on the market.
Including your v7 Blades? Thought you really liked those and they are easy on the elbow.
 

tennis347

Hall of Fame
Including your v7 Blades? Thought you really liked those and they are easy on the elbow.
Yes, I have sold all my racquets. I did like the Blade but enjoy the unique feel more of Angell. My goal is to get to a point where I am just using the same frame and not switching back and forth. There's too much to think about.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Yes, I have sold all my racquets. I did like the Blade but enjoy the unique feel more of Angell. My goal is to get to a point where I am just using the same frame and not switching back and forth. There's too much to think about.
I would love to be able to do that but a part of me always wants to try other racquets or go back to the feel of those others I like.

I think that, for me, the TC95 63RA 18x20 is a racquet I could use exclusively and be happy for the rest of my life (I'm also going to be testing many strings for the 16x19 version to find one that allows me to enjoy that string pattern as much as the 18x20 - it will happen, I just haven't put in enough effort as I have so many different racquets and I want to give them all a go... :laughing: :-D :rolleyes:).

Just knowing that I will never be able to hit with my PT630 or RT630 or DR98... or experience the utter scalpel precision of the Phantom Pro 93P, leaves me feeling a longing and slight sadness which prevents me from selling any of my collection.

This has been a confession of a true racquet addict... the urge and longing that the above statement has caused is directly responsible for said addict going to hit the courts... Adios Amigos. :giggle:
 

tennis347

Hall of Fame
I would love to be able to do that but a part of me always wants to try other racquets or go back to the feel of those others I like.

I think that, for me, the TC95 63RA 18x20 is a racquet I could use exclusively and be happy for the rest of my life (I'm also going to be testing many strings for the 16x19 version to find one that allows me to enjoy that string pattern as much as the 18x20 - it will happen, I just haven't put in enough effort as I have so many different racquets and I want to give them all a go... :laughing: :-D :rolleyes:).

Just knowing that I will never be able to hit with my PT630 or RT630 or DR98... or experience the utter scalpel precision of the Phantom Pro 93P, leaves me feeling a longing and slight sadness which prevents me from selling any of my collection.

This has been a confession of a true racquet addict... the urge and longing that the above statement has caused is directly responsible for said addict going to hit the courts... Adios Amigos. :giggle:
I hear what your saying about keeping your collection of racquets. I enjoyed buying racquets and then switching back and forth. But unfortunately for me I can no longer forgo buying racquets constantly due to the financials. I only recently tried an Angell frame and realize how superior they are to most racquets made today IMO. This is why I sold everything, lol. I have to end racketholism. Continue to enjoy all your racquets!
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
I hear what your saying about keeping your collection of racquets. I enjoyed buying racquets and then switching back and forth. But unfortunately for me I can no longer forgo buying racquets constantly due to the financials. I only recently tried an Angell frame and realize how superior they are to most racquets made today IMO. This is why I sold everything, lol. I have to end racketholism. Continue to enjoy all your racquets!
I think we all tried to go down your path. My first racket was the tc95 18x20. Tried a lot of rackets after that. The TC95 is unique. But I noticed just how much easier a lot of other rackets were to play with. I have tried so many other rackets and tried to settle, but i keep trying other things..
 

Brand77

Rookie
I really like my Angel rackets, but can't they engineer some grommets which solve the issue of double blocked holes near the throat?
 

Paul Y

Rookie
I'm in the process of selling my collection of rackets minus my PS85 St. Vincents. My daughter is waiting to see what others say about the TC101 before the commitment.
 

esm

Hall of Fame
yeah, the tie off at 11T, but that doesnt affect the playability, just annoying.
there is 6T tie off if you do an ATW..
 

Paul Y

Rookie
Is the double block on the 16x19s as well? I thought it was only an 18x20 problem. I only have 18x20 from Angell so that was my assumption
 

Brand77

Rookie
One piece stringing is something I'll save for when I get a bit more confidence :cool:

7T is the biggest pain. But it might be less of a problem if I use 18g instead of 16g string. I also have a set of hollow needles, but the holes are so small I really have to use force to get a 15g needle through.

I think I'll sacrifice a set of grommets to see if I can't widen 7T and 9T so they are more easily accessible.
 
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esm

Hall of Fame
Is the double block on the 16x19s as well? I thought it was only an 18x20 problem. I only have 18x20 from Angell so that was my assumption
pretty sure it is the 16x19 issue at 11T.
for 18x20 the last cross tie off is at 12T and it seems to have much more space than the 16x19.... dont own an Angell 18x20, but the google image seems to reflect this. 8-B
 

itsstephenyo

Semi-Pro
Yea, the double block is for 16x19s. I have no issues stringing full poly with 18x20s, but always hated the block holes on my 16x19 sticks. Always had to take the string out and twist it around so that it came out on the correct side of the block hole.
 

Brand77

Rookie
I have one of those but haven't got the hang of it yet. Just strung a racket where I put narrow strips of ductape behind the problematic main strings. Then I could pull the strings apart slightly to let the cross string through. Worked like a charm only the tape snapped when I tried to remove it :p
 

esm

Hall of Fame
I have one of those but haven't got the hang of it yet. Just strung a racket where I put narrow strips of ductape behind the problematic main strings. Then I could pull the strings apart slightly to let the cross string through. Worked like a charm only the tape snapped when I tried to remove it :p
A piece of string would help too. Lol
Then again I always forget to insert one in the end. Lol
 

Happi

Professional
I find the needle part too thick.... lol
It is really quite perfect but you need to be carefull not to bend the needle, the Gamma pathfinder owl solved my problem stringing Angell TC95 and TC100.

You can use a normal owl to make the holes larger if you need.

Another method is using 2 clamps and not tie off the 2 last mains before stringing the crosses, this works but is a kind of a hassle.

cheers :)
 

Happi

Professional
I have one of those but haven't got the hang of it yet. Just strung a racket where I put narrow strips of ductape behind the problematic main strings. Then I could pull the strings apart slightly to let the cross string through. Worked like a charm only the tape snapped when I tried to remove it :p
it is quite easy, think there is a youtube video. I tried almost every method to solve the problem, and almost abandoned the Angell due to that stringing problem. The Gamma solved my problem.
 

esm

Hall of Fame
It is really quite perfect but you need to be carefull not to bend the needle, the Gamma pathfinder owl solved my problem stringing Angell TC95 and TC100.

You can use a normal owl to make the holes larger if you need.

Another method is using 2 clamps and not tie off the 2 last mains before stringing the crosses, this works but is a kind of a hassle.

cheers :)
Yeah you are right. Using the awl to enlarge the grommet hole is another option.
I have done it once on my daughter’s 25” racquet - it was strung one piece but she wanted blue and purple Syn gut, so I had to enlarge a grommet hole for the last cross. It was an effort and half but can be done.
the 11T tie off never bothered me on the Angell 16x19 (TC95/100/K7), but I can understand it can be for others....8-B
 

skeeter

Professional
Yes, I have sold all my racquets. I did like the Blade but enjoy the unique feel more of Angell. My goal is to get to a point where I am just using the same frame and not switching back and forth. There's too much to think about.
Why the ASL2 versus the 3?
 

emhtennis

Semi-Pro
For these blocked hole issues, does cutting the tip of your string at a really sharp angle not work?

I've rarely had issues stringing thru a blocked hole by cutting a sharp tip and then using pliers (held very close to the sharp tip) to guide/push it thru a tiny bit at a time.

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skeeter

Professional
The ASL2 has a lower stiffness rating and the ASL3 stock weight is too low. I don't want buy a frame that I have to add alot of weight to get it to my desired specs.

Are you considering an Angell frame?
I am. Actually purchased one of the first iterations of the TC 97 when it came out a number of years ago; loved the comfort and feel, but just couldn't quite gel with the certain other aspects of it at the time, though more likely due to user-error than the frame. I've improved as a player (thought gotten a bit older!) and miss that Angell feel. Thinking I might want to go to a larger, more user-friendly head size, but not wedded to that necessarily. I try to steer away from really open pattern racquets but am fine with 16x19 patterns that offer more control than others (thus the 16x19 v7 Blade was of interest, and I have a Clash 98 that works ok, but not great). Will be interested in your review of the ASL2 since you've played with the Blade.
 

tennis347

Hall of Fame
I am. Actually purchased one of the first iterations of the TC 97 when it came out a number of years ago; loved the comfort and feel, but just couldn't quite gel with the certain other aspects of it at the time, though more likely due to user-error than the frame. I've improved as a player (thought gotten a bit older!) and miss that Angell feel. Thinking I might want to go to a larger, more user-friendly head size, but not wedded to that necessarily. I try to steer away from really open pattern racquets but am fine with 16x19 patterns that offer more control than others (thus the 16x19 v7 Blade was of interest, and I have a Clash 98 that works ok, but not great). Will be interested in your review of the ASL2 since you've played with the Blade.
I tried the Clash 98 and didn't like the feel.

I like 97 or 98 inch frames as it is easier to generate racquet head speed for topspin and better maneuverability. I also don't want a frame that is under 11.5 ounces strung. The ASL2 is very headlight so a few grams of lead will be needed at 3 and 9, no more than 3 grams total and maybe a little on the butt of the handle. I should be around 330 grams after adding weight with a very manageable swing weight. I will post a review of the ASL2.
 

esm

Hall of Fame
For these blocked hole issues, does cutting the tip of your string at a really sharp angle not work?

I've rarely had issues stringing thru a blocked hole by cutting a sharp tip and then using pliers (held very close to the sharp tip) to guide/push it thru a tiny bit at a time.

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I’d say it does. Depends on the gauge and type of the string. Sometimes 16 gauge soft multi can be very challenging.
 

ed70

Professional
That Octane paintjob is an absolute beauty, but does anyone else think the tc101 looks kinda weird? The box beam with the 101in headsize looks off for some reason to me. Like a body builder that skipped leg day
I don’t think the box beam throat makes the head look any bigger!
I guess when strung the hole won’t look so big, same goes for any unstrung 100+ head.
 

tennis347

Hall of Fame
I just purchased the ASL2 directly from Angell and sold most of my other racquets. I was looking at this frame a while ago. I had the K7 Red and really enjoyed it but wanted a bit more power. I will post my review within the next week.
The racquet just came this morning and it's a beauty. The cosmetics are spectacular and the weight came in exactly 310 grams unstrung! The ASL2 looks larger than a 97 sq inch frame. Having it strung soon!
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
It is really quite perfect but you need to be carefull not to bend the needle, the Gamma pathfinder owl solved my problem stringing Angell TC95 and TC100.

You can use a normal owl to make the holes larger if you need.

Another method is using 2 clamps and not tie off the 2 last mains before stringing the crosses, this works but is a kind of a hassle.

cheers :)
I suppose after the cast wrap for the Harry Potter series those who played Hedwig, Pigwidgeon et al. were pretty much outa work, and any actor still needs to put food on the table, or in the little feeder thingy...
 
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