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Pneumated1 said:
Where is it lacking, by comparison?
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Gosh they are different. Blade is a very nice frame but more flexy plush. TC less flexy more direct, hits an 80% ball that bothers a lot of people so heavier ball. Bigger serve and more authority volleying. Nothing has that same won’t get pushed back reaction of the TC
 
topspn said:
Gosh they are different. Blade is a very nice frame but more flexy plush. TC less flexy more direct, hits an 80% ball that bothers a lot of people so heavier ball. Bigger serve and more authority volleying. Nothing has that same won’t get pushed back reaction of the TC
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TCs are beasts for sure. I've never hit better serving frames than either TC95 model. But I've learned that they're string sensitive, depending upon your style, and they require a good ball striker with good footwork. But if you're on, they are weapons. Wish Paul made a TC100 18x20 ... for off days:laughing:
 
Pneumated1 said:
TCs are beasts for sure. I've never hit better serving frames than either TC95 model. But I've learned that they're string sensitive, depending upon your style, and they require a good ball striker with good footwork. But if you're on, they are weapons. Wish Paul made a TC100 18x20 ... for off days:laughing:
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Let’s not confuse Paul! Totally happy with just TC98 D beam 8M
 
topspn said:
Let’s not confuse Paul! Totally happy with just TC98 D beam 8M
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There was a hint that Paul will be releasing 4 new frames this year... the TC101 was the first and that was a box beam TC97 in a larger head size... so, I guess we'll have to wait and see what comes out. He created a TC100 with a 1 sq. inch larger head size and a Box Beam... so maybe he will follow the same pattern and make a TC98 with a D-Beam... Remains to be seen.

Either way, hopefully, he decides to make a tight 16x19 with 8M, or a wider-spaced 18x20, or a 16x20 with 6M. I prefer the first two options, but any amalgamation of the current 16x19 and 18x20 spacings in the 95 or 97 head sizes will be welcome.
 
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Classic-TXP-IG MID said:
There was a hint that Paul will be releasing 4 new frames this year... the TC101 was the first and that was a box beam TC97 in a larger head size... so, I guess we'll have to wait and see what comes out. He created a TC100 with a 1 sq. inch larger head size and a Box Beam... so maybe he will follow the same pattern and make a TC98 with a D-Beam... Remains to be seen.

Either way, hopefully, he decides to make a tight 16x19 with 8M, or a wider-spaced 18x20, or a 16x20 with 6M. I prefer the first two options, but any amalgamation of the current 16x19 and 18x20 spacings in the 95 or 97 head sizes will be welcome.
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I’m sticking with my D beam 98 8M. If he produces them, I’m buying 8 matched frames and they will be my frames for the rest of my living years. Ermmm unless he updates the PJs :p
 
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OlgaOM said:
Not sure if it makes things easier in terms of picking one frame to hit with most of the time
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I know... But, at the end of the day, it's a good problem to have. My current favourite is the TC95 63RA 18x20, but I will be testing different string options in my 16x19's in order to see if I can find what works for this string pattern (in both the TC95 and TC97). Maybe I'll do a back-to-back with the 18x20's to finally decide whether to keep both string patterns or just stick to the 18x20's for now.
 
I'd probably buy those but in 28" - unless the sw was too prohibitive - would hopefully be something close to a more comfortable version of my Prince Equipe mp 28"s :) (I've thought for a while now that what I really want is a 97" version of the TC95", more than the current TC97" per se.)
 
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Paul Y said:
My son was actually pretty curious the differences between the TC95 18x20 and the TC97 18x20. Has anyone compared the two before? He did receive his playset of rackets already from Angell so he doesn't plan to switch this year but he was very curious. I heard they really play differently, my son is an all court player and uses a lot of variety.
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I have and use both the 95 and 97 in the 18x20 patterns. I have used the TC95 as my main stick, but am able to switch between them during a match without issue. Feel is slightly different, but I’m not super sensitive like many poster here. They would say the 95 has a uniform flex, while the 97 flexes more in the hoop.
They have the same exact string placement (they share the same grommets), so there should be no real difference in launch angle. The main difference would be boiled down to D beam in the 95 and box beam in the 97 (as well as the flex difference).
 
Let’s start a revolt !! We want 8 in the throat !!
I’m back from a tournament match, and I’m amazed how comfortable yet beasty the TC95 is. It’s my fourth match of the week and no particular pain other than tiredness.
I’m ending my reel of T1 Black knight, and I really enjoy it. However I’d like something more connected, maybe crisper.
Sometimes I don’t feel confident enough to swing big although I play with this setup for 1 year.
Any idea ?
 
therecanbeonlyone said:
I have and use both the 95 and 97 in the 18x20 patterns. I have used the TC95 as my main stick, but am able to switch between them during a match without issue. Feel is slightly different, but I’m not super sensitive like many poster here. They would say the 95 has a uniform flex, while the 97 flexes more in the hoop.
They have the same exact string placement (they share the same grommets), so there should be no real difference in launch angle. The main difference would be boiled down to D beam in the 95 and box beam in the 97 (as well as the flex difference).
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Assuming the 95 transmits power a little better than the 97 on serve due to more uniform - less head - flex; due you notice much difference in the way of off centre forgiveness with the 97 due to the slightly larger head size?
 
jmacdaununder2 said:
Assuming the 95 transmits power a little better than the 97 on serve due to more uniform - less head - flex; due you notice much difference in the way of off centre forgiveness with the 97 due to the slightly larger head size?
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My first angell was the tc95 18x20 but now I'm swinging a 97 18x20. Both are similar in terms of performance. The main difference is probably the way they flex and beam shape. 95 feels stiffer in the hoop and 97 is stiffer in the throat. Both are great frames. If anything 97 may have a tad more forgiveness, but it's negligible. You can always ad small amounts of lead to make a frame more forgiving.
 
Happi said:
The way Sergetti stringing works (as far as I understand) is that Sergetti has a database of Racquets and Strings and you chose your Racquet, your string and your tension and they will send you a tension sheet. I think stringing works best with an electronic stringing head, or you can bring the sheet to your stringer.

Sergetti har 5 categories of strings 1-5 and it is shown at tha database in (x) after each string. I am sure there is more to it, but to me it seems like is corresponds with string stiffness (I guess this has to do with how much the string is stretching during stringing) Kevlar would be a (1), Monogut ZX would be a (5). If your favorite string (gauge matters too) is a (3) and you want to try another string that is also a (3) you can use the same tension sheet if you use the same tension.

The way that I do it is that I try out different strings and tension, strung the conventional way and I end up with a favorite combination for my TC100 - this could be Head Sonic Pro 17 (4 in Sergetti terms) at mains 22kg and crosses 21kg - then you type in these info at Sergetti and pay via PayPal and very shortly after they will send you a specific tension sheet.

Actually you don't need to have different tension between mains and crosses as Sergetti takes this into account, so the above example would equals 21.5kg by Sergetti method.

To answer your question, yes you have to order a new tension sheet for each parameter you change: Racquet, strings (only if in another category) and tension - so this is kind of the bad news if you play around with a lot of different racquets, strings and tensions (like I do).

The good news is that this method actually works, and me being a non believer (I can kind of understand the idea, but was not so sure I could feel anything different) I had to give in and accept that my stringed felt so much nicer.

In my tension sheet (19.5 kg) for a poly and TC100 - string variation goes from 22.6kg down to 14.5kg (one string all the way down to 7.7kg) - I was very sceptic when I installed, but very surprised when I played with the strinbed.

Dont take my word for it, but chose your favorite combination, and try it out - it cost nothing more than a set of Lux strings (Remember the Angell promo code for 25% off). If you have 2 matched racquets you can play the two string beds (conventional and Sergetti) back to back and see for your self. I am a convert, but you should only trust your own experience.

To sum up, I feel the Sergetti stringing method gives me a more even stringbed and a larger sweet spot, and that actually makes me trust my Racquet even more, and I can hit out and have fewer flyers. On top of that, and that is perhaps the most important for me: the stringbed seems softer, and off center hits does not hurt my arm.

I am only like 5-6 hours into my testing, so it could be a honeymoon, but I really think it is for real. I also need to test other strings to be a total convert. I have no conclusion yet to the longer playability, but so far so good.

Cheers :)
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That’s good info. Thanks. Your post convinced me to try the sergetti sheet. However I was only able to find a 15% discount code. What’s the 25% discount code that you mentioned?
 
rider4ever said:
That’s good info. Thanks. Your post convinced me to try the sergetti sheet. However I was only able to find a 15% discount code. What’s the 25% discount code that you mentioned?
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sorry, typing mistake, 15% is the correct number.

I really enjoy the Sergetti - let me know what you think. I am still testing around.
 
topspn said:
Gosh they are different. Blade is a very nice frame but more flexy plush. TC less flexy more direct, hits an 80% ball that bothers a lot of people so heavier ball. Bigger serve and more authority volleying. Nothing has that same won’t get pushed back reaction of the TC
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I would extend that last sentence by throwing maneuverability and spin production into the mix. There are tanks out there that are even more stable than D beam TCs but those I’ve tried are much less “user friendly” as a result. The combination of great stability and maneuverability is what sets these Angells apart.
 
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ChrisG said:
Let’s start a revolt !! We want 8 in the throat !!
I’m back from a tournament match, and I’m amazed how comfortable yet beasty the TC95 is. It’s my fourth match of the week and no particular pain other than tiredness.
I’m ending my reel of T1 Black knight, and I really enjoy it. However I’d like something more connected, maybe crisper.
Sometimes I don’t feel confident enough to swing big although I play with this setup for 1 year.
Any idea ?
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Try revolve spin, a bit more crisp and connected and Revolution is even more crisp. There is also Silver 7 tour and confidential that I would like to try on my TCs and see how they perform. Revolve spin pockets well like BK but more crisp and connected
 
What kind of beam construction does the ASL2 have? I noticed that the throat is a bit wider than the hoop? Does this help with stability?
 
tennis347 said:
What kind of beam construction does the ASL2 have? I noticed that the throat is a bit wider than the hoop? Does this help with stability?
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It’s a box beam, but does taper from the throat to the hoop in a continuous manner, but opposite of the Prince CTS. A little bit of lead at 12 o’clock helps with power.
 
Genuine question (this may already bee covered previously) - since TC97 and K7 have box beams, how do they compare. I have never played with TC97 but I have a K7 Red. The K7 Red plays very plush and nicely. Do they flex similar. I understand one is 97 and the other is 98.
I miss my K7 Red. Mate if mine has it atm. I will probably get it back next week, so I will change the string and have a go at it again. :p
 
pastashop42 said:
It’s a box beam, but does taper from the throat to the hoop in a continuous manner, but opposite of the Prince CTS. A little bit of lead at 12 o’clock helps with power.
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I put 5 grams at 3 and 9 to help increase stability and add some plow. The ASL2 is very HL. I previously had the K7 Red which is a very plush and comfortable frame.
I wanted a tad more power and thought the ASL2 would be a good fit. I also understand it's a bit firmer than the K7 Red even though the RA is a tad lower.
 
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esm said:
Genuine question (this may already bee covered previously) - since TC97 and K7 have box beams, how do they compare. I have never played with TC97 but I have a K7 Red. The K7 Red plays very plush and nicely. Do they flex similar. I understand one is 97 and the other is 98.
I miss my K7 Red. Mate if mine has it atm. I will probably get it back next week, so I will change the string and have a go at it again. :p
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K7 red needs some weight for stability but plays much plusher, more flexy although more uniform flex then TC97
 
topspn said:
K7 red needs some weight for stability but plays much plusher, more flexy although more uniform flex then TC97
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Thanks for that. Good to know. If I remembered correctly, I have weights on the hoop and at the throat to bumps up the SW and string weight. I will need to take a good look again when I get it back next week
 
esm said:
Thanks for that. Good to know. If I remembered correctly, I have weights on the hoop and at the throat to bumps up the SW and string weight. I will need to take a good look again when I get it back next week
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I liked K7 the most with leather grip, weight 2&10 and more weight 7” spot top of the grip. In total 12oz
 
Does anyone have experience with the angell tc2 backpack? What I want to know is if the zippers are like every other tennis backpack and fall down with the racquet handles sticking out during transportation.
 
joohan said:
Why not go for TC100 instead? It has plenty of assistance itself and you’ve got many contributors here who have played it or are playing with TC100 as their main frame now, which means plenty of experience with string and racquet customizing. 105 is probably not that different but still, the 100 has a cult following here (even I like it very much, although it might not look like it at times) and it would be a shame not to make the best of it. Plus it’s re-sale value might be higher in case you don’t like it.

I googled the specs of your current frame (is that V Feel 8 300?) and those specs should be rather easy to recreate with a 70RA TC100. You’d be getting a killer frame in very familiar specs...
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Hi again to all. Pulled the trigger and bought an angell v3 100 from a recommendation from Joohan. Have played a good 15 hrs with this frame and all I can say is wow. The specs of the racket are 330g strung. 32.6 cm balance point. 328 swing weight. Prebuilt stiffness of 70.I strung the racket with signum pro yellow jacket 17gauge at 58 pounds. 5.0 all court player. Previously using the volkl v feel 300. Now will write about my experience with the racket. Firstly paint and build quality are top notch. Absolute serve monster. Person I play with is 5.5 level and has said my serves are bigger with more pace. Ground strokes have heaps more plow. Spin monster as well. Balls are kicking at my opponents heads. And the racket can absorb more pace as well. Solid as a rock at the net. Does not get pushed around. But most importantly the feel for me is as smooth as silk. Have never experienced a great feeling racket like this before.I feel like my game has gone up another level. And I have been playing for almost 35 yrs. I am 45 yrs old. Importantly I feel no soreness in my elbow. And I was a long time volkl user. Finally my racket search is well and truely over. Will purchase one more and a bag in the near future. I would like to thank joohan again for the recommendation. And Paul for a great racket. Hoping everyone on the forum has a great day.
 
Prince Vegeta said:
Does anyone have experience with the angell tc2 backpack? What I want to know is if the zippers are like every other tennis backpack and fall down with the racquet handles sticking out during transportation.
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Yes, unfortunately they do. In general, Angell bags are not bad, but not the same quality as the racquets.
 
adriantennis said:
Hi again to all. Pulled the trigger and bought an angell v3 100 from a recommendation from Joohan. Have played a good 15 hrs with this frame and all I can say is wow. The specs of the racket are 330g strung. 32.6 cm balance point. 328 swing weight. Prebuilt stiffness of 70.I strung the racket with signum pro yellow jacket 17gauge at 58 pounds. 5.0 all court player. Previously using the volkl v feel 300. Now will write about my experience with the racket. Firstly paint and build quality are top notch. Absolute serve monster. Person I play with is 5.5 level and has said my serves are bigger with more pace. Ground strokes have heaps more plow. Spin monster as well. Balls are kicking at my opponents heads. And the racket can absorb more pace as well. Solid as a rock at the net. Does not get pushed around. But most importantly the feel for me is as smooth as silk. Have never experienced a great feeling racket like this before.I feel like my game has gone up another level. And I have been playing for almost 35 yrs. I am 45 yrs old. Importantly I feel no soreness in my elbow. And I was a long time volkl user. Finally my racket search is well and truely over. Will purchase one more and a bag in the near future. I would like to thank joohan again for the recommendation. And Paul for a great racket. Hoping everyone on the forum has a great day.
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I’m glad it you like it, enjoy .)
 
esm said:
Genuine question (this may already bee covered previously) - since TC97 and K7 have box beams, how do they compare. I have never played with TC97 but I have a K7 Red. The K7 Red plays very plush and nicely. Do they flex similar. I understand one is 97 and the other is 98.
I miss my K7 Red. Mate if mine has it atm. I will probably get it back next week, so I will change the string and have a go at it again. :p
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I prefer TC97. Though, I’m playing with both 97 and K7 Red. The latter one is way less stable and lacks some control for me. Tried to lead it up but couldn’t make it “play” better :)) K7 is a tad more forgiving. In terms of flex - most here say TC97 has a “unique” flex in the hoop. I don’t feel that, but it works better for my TE issue.
 
OlgaOM said:
I prefer TC97. Though, I’m playing with both 97 and K7 Red. The latter one is way less stable and lacks some control for me. Tried to lead it up but couldn’t make it “play” better :)) K7 is a tad more forgiving. In terms of flex - most here say TC97 has a “unique” flex in the hoop. I don’t feel that, but it works better for my TE issue.
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I prefer the TC97 to the K7 Red too... haven't tried the K7 Lime though (as a result of not being able to gel with the Red).
 
aehjmeyer said:
Has anyone with a K7 Red requested one with an unstrung SW near 300 (as Paul has told me directly is possible)?
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I have 6 K7 Reds all supplied new and matched by Paul Angell.
The average unstrung swingweight is 297 and the strung swingweight average 326. All have lead added at 3 and 9 and the modified swingweight is 308 unstrung and 337 strung.

Paul also at my request added silicone to the handle of each of the rackets to give me an unstrung weight of 320gm with the standard grip.
 
Paul Johnson said:
I have 6 K7 Reds all supplied new and matched by Paul Angell.
The average unstrung swingweight is 297 and the strung swingweight average 326. All have lead added at 3 and 9 and the modified swingweight is 308 unstrung and 337 strung.

Paul also at my request added silicone to the handle of each of the rackets to give me an unstrung weight of 320gm with the standard grip.
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Getting a K7 Red with higher SW seems like it would address the consistent commentary about lacking authority, which is why I’m curious
 
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aehjmeyer said:
Getting a K7 Red with higher SW seems like it would improve the consistent umber commentary about lacking authority, which is why I’m curious
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I agree to a point, but, adding to swingweight alone does not add sufficient authority to this frame in my experience. Prior to these 6 frames, i have owned a number of K7 Reds and Limes and have found them to be extremely comfortable but lacking consistent depth of shot and authority.
In this configuration I find them to be not only the most comfortable Angell frames I have played with but they also have more consistent depth of ground strokes with topspin or slice.
i was trying to get close to the strung specs of Andy Murrays PT57A with 16x19 pattern and if he is as happy with his rackets as I am with mine then I see why he stays with them!
 
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Well I had a couple of sessions with the TC101 but the circumstances were not that great (weather, physical) so will need to play some more before I can decide if I like it enough to keep it in rotation.
It does feel a bit less whippy compared to my TC100 so I probably need to improve my strokes and timing a bit more :-D
 
I think we may have already covered this already - does anyone have any idea what new racquets we may see this year from Mr. Angell?
8-B
 
esm said:
The new slogan is - Go One Better....
Now we already have the 101, so... shall we be expecting...
91
96
98
99
106
8-B :X3:
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He's also flipped the Beam profiles, so the 101 has a Box beam from the TC97 (instead of the D-Beam from the TC100)... so...98 with a D-Beam... Maybe a heavier K7 Blue with a D-Beam... Different string patterns... we'll see. Fingers crossed it's awesome.
 
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