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BBender716

Semi-Pro
I have a TC95 70RA 16x19 and can't help but wonder about whether I'd prefer an 18x20 or 63RA TC95. I've fallen in love with my 18x20 Blade v7 but it's slightly too muted and admittedly a bit unwieldly for me.

Suggestions/thoughts? I'm around a 3.5 USTA and all court style and play with a decent amount of spin...

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jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
So, I've been considering a 28" TC97 or possibly even a TC95 for some time now (if the 101 paint job becomes available I might just put my toes in the water) anyone tried this length? Cheers, JMac
 

Paul Y

Rookie
My son currently uses the 70RA TC95 27.75 18x20. He states the big difference is power from the baseline and volleys. He throughly loves the little extra free power he gets at the baseline and the feel at the net is moot between the two. If you want the little extra feel at the net then go with the 63RA.
 

Junkie44

New User
I am a newer Angell user with a TC100 63RA 320g stick as my first plunge. I have strung it up with Tour Bite 16L at 48-50lbs and still have to be careful not to get too excited by the sheer power and heavy ball when rallying and sail it. I got this racquet mainly for doubles so when I hit too big it reminds me to get to the net. I really do like the way it feels coming from a Pure Strike (PO7) also with Tour Bite. Elbow was getting sore.

Wanted to get another Angell stick and don't know if I just get another TC100 in the bag or add a TC95 63RA 16 x 19 perhaps at the same 320g. I'm wondering what peoples' experience is with a TC95 in doubles. I like the idea of more precision with the TC95's smaller head, like I hit with the Pure Strike 98, but wanted to see if there were any thoughts. I am a 4.5 all court player with 2 weapons (big serve and forehand). I volley well but also wonder if those reflex volleys will be tougher with a smaller head size as well. Any thoughts are welcomed.
 

Happi

Semi-Pro
I am a newer Angell user with a TC100 63RA 320g stick as my first plunge. I have strung it up with Tour Bite 16L at 48-50lbs and still have to be careful not to get too excited by the sheer power and heavy ball when rallying and sail it. I got this racquet mainly for doubles so when I hit too big it reminds me to get to the net. I really do like the way it feels coming from a Pure Strike (PO7) also with Tour Bite. Elbow was getting sore.

Wanted to get another Angell stick and don't know if I just get another TC100 in the bag or add a TC95 63RA 16 x 19 perhaps at the same 320g. I'm wondering what peoples' experience is with a TC95 in doubles. I like the idea of more precision with the TC95's smaller head, like I hit with the Pure Strike 98, but wanted to see if there were any thoughts. I am a 4.5 all court player with 2 weapons (big serve and forehand). I volley well but also wonder if those reflex volleys will be tougher with a smaller head size as well. Any thoughts are welcomed.
I have both TC95 and TC100 in 310/315 63RA V3 and if you put them on top of each other there is not too much difference in size. They play kind of similar, but with more power on tap with the TC100. I was tired of changing racquets all the time (throws my game off) so I have decided to only play the TC100 and really commit to only this frame, my racquet quest is over. But I still keep my two TC95 for now, just in case :)
 

topspn

Legend
I am a newer Angell user with a TC100 63RA 320g stick as my first plunge. I have strung it up with Tour Bite 16L at 48-50lbs and still have to be careful not to get too excited by the sheer power and heavy ball when rallying and sail it. I got this racquet mainly for doubles so when I hit too big it reminds me to get to the net. I really do like the way it feels coming from a Pure Strike (PO7) also with Tour Bite. Elbow was getting sore.

Wanted to get another Angell stick and don't know if I just get another TC100 in the bag or add a TC95 63RA 16 x 19 perhaps at the same 320g. I'm wondering what peoples' experience is with a TC95 in doubles. I like the idea of more precision with the TC95's smaller head, like I hit with the Pure Strike 98, but wanted to see if there were any thoughts. I am a 4.5 all court player with 2 weapons (big serve and forehand). I volley well but also wonder if those reflex volleys will be tougher with a smaller head size as well. Any thoughts are welcomed.
You’re picking a pretty specific scenario of reflex volleys. The TC100 is just a tad slower but more forgiving head size. TC95 just a tad quicker but a bit smaller. I’ve had no problem at all with either in terms of reflex at the net
 

esm

Hall of Fame
I am a newer Angell user with a TC100 63RA 320g stick as my first plunge. I have strung it up with Tour Bite 16L at 48-50lbs and still have to be careful not to get too excited by the sheer power and heavy ball when rallying and sail it. I got this racquet mainly for doubles so when I hit too big it reminds me to get to the net. I really do like the way it feels coming from a Pure Strike (PO7) also with Tour Bite. Elbow was getting sore.

Wanted to get another Angell stick and don't know if I just get another TC100 in the bag or add a TC95 63RA 16 x 19 perhaps at the same 320g. I'm wondering what peoples' experience is with a TC95 in doubles. I like the idea of more precision with the TC95's smaller head, like I hit with the Pure Strike 98, but wanted to see if there were any thoughts. I am a 4.5 all court player with 2 weapons (big serve and forehand). I volley well but also wonder if those reflex volleys will be tougher with a smaller head size as well. Any thoughts are welcomed.
Definitely TC95 16x19 63RA. Much prefer it than my TC100 63RA for the doubles (and singles too).
I had it at around 340g/31.5cm and 335SW at the time. The TC100 was at the same spec range too.

I still have it in my bag but it is now similar spec to my 2013 Blade 98 18x20 (polarised setup). Same for my 2013 Pure Strike 98 16x19, they are similar to the Blade setup too.
 

Junkie44

New User
I have both TC95 and TC100 in 310/315 63RA V3 and if you put them on top of each other there is not too much difference in size. They play kind of similar, but with more power on tap with the TC100. I was tired of changing racquets all the time (throws my game off) so I have decided to only play the TC100 and really commit to only this frame, my racquet quest is over. But I still keep my two TC95 for now, just in case :)
The changing racquet carousel can be a pain...probably smart on your part to commit!
 

Junkie44

New User
You’re picking a pretty specific scenario of reflex volleys. The TC100 is just a tad slower but more forgiving head size. TC95 just a tad quicker but a bit smaller. I’ve had no problem at all with either in terms of reflex at the net
That was exactly the reply I thought I might heae...which leads me to keep an open and inquisitive mind about the TC95. The TC95 really is an inriguing racquet. Btw. my volleys are so much better in general with the Angell vs. the Pure Strike as it is. Not sure if its the lower flex or just more confidence or the combination.
 

Junkie44

New User
Definitely TC95 16x19 63RA. Much prefer it than my TC100 63RA for the doubles (and singles too).
I had it at around 340g/31.5cm and 335SW at the time. The TC100 was at the same spec range too.

I still have it in my bag but it is now similar spec to my 2013 Blade 98 18x20 (polarised setup). Same for my 2013 Pure Strike 98 16x19, they are similar to the Blade setup too.
Thanks for the feedback. It's nice to have a variety iof good racquets to choose from. I've always liked the Blade's feel and SW but felt like the weight distribution was toward the head which didn't help my confidence when net rushing.
 

Junkie44

New User
Does anyone in the U.S use RS Lyon on their sticks? It's almost impossible to get here it feels like. Any alternatives that you like on the TC100? I've seen some of the usual suspects; SPPP, WC Silverstring, PTP but haven't a lot of experience with those.

And sorry to hijack the last slew of comments but I'm itching to figure out my setups as USTA match season has already started here in Florida.
 

topspn

Legend
Does anyone in the U.S use RS Lyon on their sticks? It's almost impossible to get here it feels like. Any alternatives that you like on the TC100? I've seen some of the usual suspects; SPPP, WC Silverstring, PTP but haven't a lot of experience with those.

And sorry to hijack the last slew of comments but I'm itching to figure out my setups as USTA match season has already started here in Florida.
Not really to be honest, at least I haven’t found a round string similar to it and not sure why it’s dried up in the US. I do like revolution 1.25 @54lbs in my TC100s
 

tennis347

Professional
I just ordered the ASL2 directly from Angell and looking for to the legendary feel that Angell is known for. I too had to stop playing with the TF40 as it was too firm for my elbow. I just sold most of my racquets. I had the K7 Red but someone made me an offer to sell that could not be refused. The ASL2 appears to be quite unique to anything else on the market.
I received the ASL2 and had it strung with goat string Gosen Micro 16 at 54lbs. I changed the stock grip to my usual Wilson Contour grip and then added 5 grams of lead total at 3 and 9 with a 1/2 inch strip. The weight is now 334 grams and still is whippy and very maneuverable. Just bouncing the ball on the hoop it feels quite plush and feels a tad firmer than the K7 Red.

I will be playing tomorrow and post my review!
 
I have a TC95 70RA 16x19 and can't help but wonder about whether I'd prefer an 18x20 or 63RA TC95. I've fallen in love with my 18x20 Blade v7 but it's slightly too muted and admittedly a bit unwieldly for me.

Suggestions/thoughts? I'm around a 3.5 USTA and all court style and play with a decent amount of spin...

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My suggestion would be to keep whatever racquet is easier / more natural for you to swing. If you’re jonesing for a change, string it with natural gut at 55-60 lb range (Klip is affordable and should last a long time, unless you’re playing on clay in Florida). Otherwise, save up for individual lessons with a good coach who can teach more classic strokes. Consistency at the 3.5 level is key to enjoyment and winning, and that comes from solid footwork and stroke mechanics.
 

Rysty

Rookie
I have a TC95 70RA 16x19 and can't help but wonder about whether I'd prefer an 18x20 or 63RA TC95. I've fallen in love with my 18x20 Blade v7 but it's slightly too muted and admittedly a bit unwieldly for me.

Suggestions/thoughts? I'm around a 3.5 USTA and all court style and play with a decent amount of spin...

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I have both string patterns of TC 95, 63 RA. They feel quite different. As you can expect, the 16x19 is more powerful and easy to hit spin with. The 18x20 is muted, low-powered and maybe better against very hard hitters (easier to keep the ball low).

By the way, both are good serving racquets, but the 16x19 may be the best I've ever experienced.
 

Emmanuel1971

New User
Hey guys i currently play a TC95 V2 16x19 63RA 320 gr 310 mm really happy with it , this stick does everything well and the comfort is great i want to buy another Angell but hesitates between another TC95 this time at 310 gr /315 mm or an ASL 2 which i found quite intriguing any one could help telling me what would be the major differences between an ASL and TC 95 ?
 

Paul Y

Rookie
My son was actually pretty curious the differences between the TC95 18x20 and the TC97 18x20. Has anyone compared the two before? He did receive his playset of rackets already from Angell so he doesn't plan to switch this year but he was very curious. I heard they really play differently, my son is an all court player and uses a lot of variety.
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
I have both string patterns of TC 95, 63 RA. They feel quite different. As you can expect, the 16x19 is more powerful and easy to hit spin with. The 18x20 is muted, low-powered and maybe better against very hard hitters (easier to keep the ball low).

By the way, both are good serving racquets, but the 16x19 may be the best I've ever experienced.
This is a good assessment. I hit the 16x19 for over a year and worked hard to adjust to it. It's an amazing frame that produces wicked ball quality that gives opponents a lot of trouble, but my strokes and ball shape are a little more linear, so the 18x20 ended up being a better fit for me. As far as spin, that's a tricky one because the 16x19 works best for mechanics that naturally load the ball with loop and kicking spin, but I actually hit a spinnier ball (albeit a tighter spin) with the the 18x20. That translates into quicker bite and more push through the court--at least for my game, which is what I need.

Regrettably, the best of both worlds for me (related only to stringbed) is a Volkl 16x19, which lets me bridge these two styles a bit better and opens the full arsenal of shots. But I'm won over by the Angell TC95 63RA as a frame and will wait, probably in vain, for a tighter 16x19 or 16x20.
 

esm

Hall of Fame
This is a good assessment. I hit the 16x19 for over a year and worked hard to adjust to it. It's an amazing frame that produces wicked ball quality that gives opponents a lot of trouble, but my strokes and ball shape are a little more linear, so the 18x20 ended up being a better fit for me. As far as spin, that's a tricky one because the 16x19 works best for mechanics that naturally load the ball with loop and kicking spin, but I actually hit a spinnier ball (albeit a tighter spin) with the the 18x20. That translates into quicker bite and more push through the court--at least for my game, which is what I need.

Regrettably, the best of both worlds for me (related only to stringbed) is a Volkl 16x19, which lets me bridge these two styles a bit better and opens the full arsenal of shots. But I'm won over by the Angell TC95 63RA as a frame and will wait, probably in vain, for a tighter 16x19 or 16x20.
I think a slightly better option would be a TC95 16x19 with 8 mains at the throat - wishful thinking I know.... 8-B
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
I think a slightly better option would be a TC95 16x19 with 8 mains at the throat - wishful thinking I know.... 8-B
Yes, the Volkl 16x19 has 8 mains in the throat. That's what I was referring to but didn't make it clear. But I understand it. Paul is doing his thing, kind of like Paul Reed Smith guitars ... some like to say they're between Fender and Gibson, but they have their own thing going--and going quite well. These genius, stubborn Pauls of the world ...:)
 

topspn

Legend
Where is it lacking, by comparison?
Gosh they are different. Blade is a very nice frame but more flexy plush. TC less flexy more direct, hits an 80% ball that bothers a lot of people so heavier ball. Bigger serve and more authority volleying. Nothing has that same won’t get pushed back reaction of the TC
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Gosh they are different. Blade is a very nice frame but more flexy plush. TC less flexy more direct, hits an 80% ball that bothers a lot of people so heavier ball. Bigger serve and more authority volleying. Nothing has that same won’t get pushed back reaction of the TC
TCs are beasts for sure. I've never hit better serving frames than either TC95 model. But I've learned that they're string sensitive, depending upon your style, and they require a good ball striker with good footwork. But if you're on, they are weapons. Wish Paul made a TC100 18x20 ... for off days:laughing:
 

topspn

Legend
TCs are beasts for sure. I've never hit better serving frames than either TC95 model. But I've learned that they're string sensitive, depending upon your style, and they require a good ball striker with good footwork. But if you're on, they are weapons. Wish Paul made a TC100 18x20 ... for off days:laughing:
Let’s not confuse Paul! Totally happy with just TC98 D beam 8M
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Let’s not confuse Paul! Totally happy with just TC98 D beam 8M
There was a hint that Paul will be releasing 4 new frames this year... the TC101 was the first and that was a box beam TC97 in a larger head size... so, I guess we'll have to wait and see what comes out. He created a TC100 with a 1 sq. inch larger head size and a Box Beam... so maybe he will follow the same pattern and make a TC98 with a D-Beam... Remains to be seen.

Either way, hopefully, he decides to make a tight 16x19 with 8M, or a wider-spaced 18x20, or a 16x20 with 6M. I prefer the first two options, but any amalgamation of the current 16x19 and 18x20 spacings in the 95 or 97 head sizes will be welcome.
 
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topspn

Legend
There was a hint that Paul will be releasing 4 new frames this year... the TC101 was the first and that was a box beam TC97 in a larger head size... so, I guess we'll have to wait and see what comes out. He created a TC100 with a 1 sq. inch larger head size and a Box Beam... so maybe he will follow the same pattern and make a TC98 with a D-Beam... Remains to be seen.

Either way, hopefully, he decides to make a tight 16x19 with 8M, or a wider-spaced 18x20, or a 16x20 with 6M. I prefer the first two options, but any amalgamation of the current 16x19 and 18x20 spacings in the 95 or 97 head sizes will be welcome.
I’m sticking with my D beam 98 8M. If he produces them, I’m buying 8 matched frames and they will be my frames for the rest of my living years. Ermmm unless he updates the PJs :p
 
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Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Not sure if it makes things easier in terms of picking one frame to hit with most of the time
I know... But, at the end of the day, it's a good problem to have. My current favourite is the TC95 63RA 18x20, but I will be testing different string options in my 16x19's in order to see if I can find what works for this string pattern (in both the TC95 and TC97). Maybe I'll do a back-to-back with the 18x20's to finally decide whether to keep both string patterns or just stick to the 18x20's for now.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
I'd probably buy those but in 28" - unless the sw was too prohibitive - would hopefully be something close to a more comfortable version of my Prince Equipe mp 28"s :) (I've thought for a while now that what I really want is a 97" version of the TC95", more than the current TC97" per se.)
 
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My son was actually pretty curious the differences between the TC95 18x20 and the TC97 18x20. Has anyone compared the two before? He did receive his playset of rackets already from Angell so he doesn't plan to switch this year but he was very curious. I heard they really play differently, my son is an all court player and uses a lot of variety.
I have and use both the 95 and 97 in the 18x20 patterns. I have used the TC95 as my main stick, but am able to switch between them during a match without issue. Feel is slightly different, but I’m not super sensitive like many poster here. They would say the 95 has a uniform flex, while the 97 flexes more in the hoop.
They have the same exact string placement (they share the same grommets), so there should be no real difference in launch angle. The main difference would be boiled down to D beam in the 95 and box beam in the 97 (as well as the flex difference).
 

ChrisG

Rookie
Let’s start a revolt !! We want 8 in the throat !!
I’m back from a tournament match, and I’m amazed how comfortable yet beasty the TC95 is. It’s my fourth match of the week and no particular pain other than tiredness.
I’m ending my reel of T1 Black knight, and I really enjoy it. However I’d like something more connected, maybe crisper.
Sometimes I don’t feel confident enough to swing big although I play with this setup for 1 year.
Any idea ?
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
I have and use both the 95 and 97 in the 18x20 patterns. I have used the TC95 as my main stick, but am able to switch between them during a match without issue. Feel is slightly different, but I’m not super sensitive like many poster here. They would say the 95 has a uniform flex, while the 97 flexes more in the hoop.
They have the same exact string placement (they share the same grommets), so there should be no real difference in launch angle. The main difference would be boiled down to D beam in the 95 and box beam in the 97 (as well as the flex difference).
Assuming the 95 transmits power a little better than the 97 on serve due to more uniform - less head - flex; due you notice much difference in the way of off centre forgiveness with the 97 due to the slightly larger head size?
 

Prince Vegeta

Semi-Pro
Assuming the 95 transmits power a little better than the 97 on serve due to more uniform - less head - flex; due you notice much difference in the way of off centre forgiveness with the 97 due to the slightly larger head size?
My first angell was the tc95 18x20 but now I'm swinging a 97 18x20. Both are similar in terms of performance. The main difference is probably the way they flex and beam shape. 95 feels stiffer in the hoop and 97 is stiffer in the throat. Both are great frames. If anything 97 may have a tad more forgiveness, but it's negligible. You can always ad small amounts of lead to make a frame more forgiving.
 
The way Sergetti stringing works (as far as I understand) is that Sergetti has a database of Racquets and Strings and you chose your Racquet, your string and your tension and they will send you a tension sheet. I think stringing works best with an electronic stringing head, or you can bring the sheet to your stringer.

Sergetti har 5 categories of strings 1-5 and it is shown at tha database in (x) after each string. I am sure there is more to it, but to me it seems like is corresponds with string stiffness (I guess this has to do with how much the string is stretching during stringing) Kevlar would be a (1), Monogut ZX would be a (5). If your favorite string (gauge matters too) is a (3) and you want to try another string that is also a (3) you can use the same tension sheet if you use the same tension.

The way that I do it is that I try out different strings and tension, strung the conventional way and I end up with a favorite combination for my TC100 - this could be Head Sonic Pro 17 (4 in Sergetti terms) at mains 22kg and crosses 21kg - then you type in these info at Sergetti and pay via PayPal and very shortly after they will send you a specific tension sheet.

Actually you don't need to have different tension between mains and crosses as Sergetti takes this into account, so the above example would equals 21.5kg by Sergetti method.

To answer your question, yes you have to order a new tension sheet for each parameter you change: Racquet, strings (only if in another category) and tension - so this is kind of the bad news if you play around with a lot of different racquets, strings and tensions (like I do).

The good news is that this method actually works, and me being a non believer (I can kind of understand the idea, but was not so sure I could feel anything different) I had to give in and accept that my stringed felt so much nicer.

In my tension sheet (19.5 kg) for a poly and TC100 - string variation goes from 22.6kg down to 14.5kg (one string all the way down to 7.7kg) - I was very sceptic when I installed, but very surprised when I played with the strinbed.

Dont take my word for it, but chose your favorite combination, and try it out - it cost nothing more than a set of Lux strings (Remember the Angell promo code for 25% off). If you have 2 matched racquets you can play the two string beds (conventional and Sergetti) back to back and see for your self. I am a convert, but you should only trust your own experience.

To sum up, I feel the Sergetti stringing method gives me a more even stringbed and a larger sweet spot, and that actually makes me trust my Racquet even more, and I can hit out and have fewer flyers. On top of that, and that is perhaps the most important for me: the stringbed seems softer, and off center hits does not hurt my arm.

I am only like 5-6 hours into my testing, so it could be a honeymoon, but I really think it is for real. I also need to test other strings to be a total convert. I have no conclusion yet to the longer playability, but so far so good.

Cheers :)
That’s good info. Thanks. Your post convinced me to try the sergetti sheet. However I was only able to find a 15% discount code. What’s the 25% discount code that you mentioned?
 

Happi

Semi-Pro
That’s good info. Thanks. Your post convinced me to try the sergetti sheet. However I was only able to find a 15% discount code. What’s the 25% discount code that you mentioned?
sorry, typing mistake, 15% is the correct number.

I really enjoy the Sergetti - let me know what you think. I am still testing around.
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
Gosh they are different. Blade is a very nice frame but more flexy plush. TC less flexy more direct, hits an 80% ball that bothers a lot of people so heavier ball. Bigger serve and more authority volleying. Nothing has that same won’t get pushed back reaction of the TC
I would extend that last sentence by throwing maneuverability and spin production into the mix. There are tanks out there that are even more stable than D beam TCs but those I’ve tried are much less “user friendly” as a result. The combination of great stability and maneuverability is what sets these Angells apart.
 
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topspn

Legend
Let’s start a revolt !! We want 8 in the throat !!
I’m back from a tournament match, and I’m amazed how comfortable yet beasty the TC95 is. It’s my fourth match of the week and no particular pain other than tiredness.
I’m ending my reel of T1 Black knight, and I really enjoy it. However I’d like something more connected, maybe crisper.
Sometimes I don’t feel confident enough to swing big although I play with this setup for 1 year.
Any idea ?
Try revolve spin, a bit more crisp and connected and Revolution is even more crisp. There is also Silver 7 tour and confidential that I would like to try on my TCs and see how they perform. Revolve spin pockets well like BK but more crisp and connected
 
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