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itsstephenyo

Semi-Pro
Nice.. what string and tension?
Was testing out Cyberflash and Poly Tour Pro in 1.25 mains, Forten Nylon crosses. Both strung at 52/53 on a crank machine. I've hit with poly mains and nylon crosses for years so it's just what I'm used to. Tried full poly, tried gut mains, couldn't get used to either one, and oddly enough, both full poly and gut mains made my elbow hurt. Makes no sense lol

Yonex PTP has crazy pop. Cyberflash a bit deader which is what I'm used to. I'd probably string the PTP a bit tighter next time. Both of them feel better than BHB7 that I was using, but BHB7 by far has the most spin.

Also yea, it was an absolutely gorgeous day, so I couldn't let it go to waste by just shadow swinging in my apartment!
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
I played with the TC101 in the 300g configuration (285 sw unstrung). For those who liked tc97, but found the sweetspot small and little spin, it is worth testing the TC101.

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I played with a friend's in the exact same 300g setup. It was very unimpressive to me compared to TC97. It lacked the control and scalpel like precision of TC97 and was only marginally more powerful because of bigger head shape. Only thing it felt similar in was the way it flexed (hoop). Felt very awkward on my 1HBH whereas TC97 gives the feeling I can't ever miss on my backhand. It has more power than TC97 but still lacks the punch you get from 100 sq inch tweeners. Also, volleying was just ok, not great as you would expect from an all court sort of a stick which I consider TC97 to be. If someone goes in thinking this is a bigger TC97, I fear they will be disappointed.

To me it feels like the 101 has a wandering soul and is struggling to find its raison detre. Needless to say, my least favorite Angell. Full points though for the Octane PJ. Looks even more gorgeous in person.
 

Paulo Braz

Semi-Pro
I played with a friend's in the exact same 300g setup. It was very unimpressive to me compared to TC97. It lacked the control and scalpel like precision of TC97 and was only marginally more powerful because of bigger head shape. Only thing it felt similar in was the way it flexed (hoop). Felt very awkward on my 1HBH whereas TC97 gives the feeling I can't ever miss on my backhand. It has more power than TC97 but still lacks the punch you get from 100 sq inch tweeners. Also, volleying was just ok, not great as you would expect from an all court sort of a stick which I consider TC97 to be. If someone goes in thinking this is a bigger TC97, I fear they will be disappointed.

To me it feels like the 101 has a wandering soul and is struggling to find its raison detre. Needless to say, my least favorite Angell. Full points though for the Octane PJ. Looks even more gorgeous in person.
In my case I felt a slight drop in control and accuracy, but it is not something that bothered me. And it doesn't really have a sweetspot the same size as a pure drive or aero. I am used to playing with head rackets 97 and 98 and had not played with a size 100 model in a few years. I liked the behavior of 101 and the gains were greater than the losses compared to the tc97. I found that the power and spin gain compensates for the loss of control, which I found small compared to tc97. I am both using mayami big spin with 50lbs.

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haqq777

Legend
I played with a friend's in the exact same 300g setup. It was very unimpressive to me compared to TC97. It lacked the control and scalpel like precision of TC97 and was only marginally more powerful because of bigger head shape. Only thing it felt similar in was the way it flexed (hoop). Felt very awkward on my 1HBH whereas TC97 gives the feeling I can't ever miss on my backhand. It has more power than TC97 but still lacks the punch you get from 100 sq inch tweeners. Also, volleying was just ok, not great as you would expect from an all court sort of a stick which I consider TC97 to be. If someone goes in thinking this is a bigger TC97, I fear they will be disappointed.

To me it feels like the 101 has a wandering soul and is struggling to find its raison detre. Needless to say, my least favorite Angell. Full points though for the Octane PJ. Looks even more gorgeous in person.
I had very similar feelings about the TC 101 when I played with it a couple of months ago. I remember I had my TC97 side by side and I played with both in that session to gauge feel/feeback. Left me pretty unimpressed.
Not at all. It is neither here nor there. It lacks the authoritative baseline prowess you would expect from the TC100 (or most 100+ si racquets), lacks the maneuverability you would expect from a good volleying stick (TC95 or TC97), doesn't have the sublime feel of K series, and overall feels cumbersome in every aspect of the game. Control is good, but TC97 definitely offers more precision as you would expect with a smaller headsize. So, yeah, I'm not exactly sure what it brings to the table, really.
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
In my case I felt a slight drop in control and accuracy, but it is not something that bothered me. And it doesn't really have a sweetspot the same size as a pure drive or aero. I am used to playing with head rackets 97 and 98 and had not played with a size 100 model in a few years. I liked the behavior of 101 and the gains were greater than the losses compared to the tc97. I found that the power and spin gain compensates for the loss of control, which I found small compared to tc97. I am both using mayami big spin with 50lbs.

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Sort of interesting as I too was playing regularly with TC97 before trying this and for me adjusting to the head size was biggest challenge. You are right that spin and power is more than TC97 but very very marginally for me and what I love about TC97 (precision and that point and shoot accuracy) was missing in 101. Now compared to other 100 sq inch racquets, it has more control. But it also lacks the power and spin you get with most other 100 sq inch racquets popular in market. Also as you said, it has a smaller sweet spot too. So I agree with you about all aspects but for me it was the other way; pros did not outweigh the cons. A bigger TC97 it was not for me. Maybe just my strokes are bit different than yours :) The string in the racquet was Alu Power at 52 lbs.

How are Mayami srings by the way? Are you liking them? I played with Magic Twist and liked it in my TC95 a lot.
 

Paulo Braz

Semi-Pro
Sort of interesting as I too was playing regularly with TC97 before trying this and for me adjusting to the head size was biggest challenge. You are right that spin and power is more than TC97 but very very marginally for me and what I love about TC97 (precision and that point and shoot accuracy) was missing in 101. Now compared to other 100 sq inch racquets, it has more control. But it also lacks the power and spin you get with most other 100 sq inch racquets popular in market. Also as you said, it has a smaller sweet spot too. So I agree with you about all aspects but for me it was the other way; pros did not outweigh the cons. A bigger TC97 it was not for me. Maybe just my strokes are bit different than yours :) The string in the racquet was Alu Power at 52 lbs.

How are Mayami srings by the way? Are you liking them? I played with Magic Twist and liked it in my TC95 a lot.
I agree that in more direct shots the tc97 takes advantage, but I feel that the fact that the 101 has 11 sw less than the tc97 (tc101 = 285 and tc97 = 296) helps me a lot to have speed in the blows. But everything goes from the style of play as you mentioned. I really liked the mayami big at tc95, 97, 101, k7 red and Lime, but it was not good at asl-2.

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'beast' is a good description of the 16x19. You'd be surprised how much the 18x20 pattern tames the beast, though. My ideal pattern is somewhere between the two, preferably a tighter 16x19, but I'm better with the 18x20 than the current 16x19. My son says I hit a heavier ball with my TC95 18x20 than his MG Radical reissues, but it's mostly a wash to give you an idea. I actually feel like I'm doing more with his Radicals (at least half ounce lighter), but he says it's not so. Another example of how differences in dynamic stiffness can skew perception.

If you can't find RS Lyon, get Tier One Black Knight but string it low, at least a few pounds lower than you string Robin.
I string RS Lyon at like 43 so its very low. I have a set of Yonex Poly tour pro black in 1.25 I might try. I used to be an 18x20 player but since I switched to a SW forehanf, revamped y main second serve to an american twist and hit a pretty extreme full eastern backhand Ibe learned that the sheer power of spin is my friend in ways it wasnt during the 90's. The thing I love about the TC95 is how well it goes from flat to super spinny and its spin is often surprising. Its hard for others to tell the difference from a super spinny shot or just one of my rally balls spin wise and it gives me a lot of foced form unforced errors. Its just so nice. Now that may main hitting partner has also switched to a tc95 Im getting a taste of it. It is a heavy ball. Not magical but noteworth how dynamic it is and how much contrast it produces in shots.
 
Surprisingly none of my TC100 or TC95 (V3 or otherwise) have sub 60 RA and I have yet to play with a D beam that plays or feels like a sub 60 RA. I have about 7 at the moment and have owned over a dozen at one point. All have been measured on Babolat RDC. I even have a V2 TC95 that is 62 RA strung.

For me personally, I can never associate Angell 'D' beam with below 60 RA sort of feedback anyway. That would take away the modern crisp feedback it is pretty popular for. I think while maybe in the sixties is sort of hard to differentiate, a high 50s versus low 60s RA is the easiest to discern. The 'D' beams feel like low sixties which also corresponds with RDC readings I got.

But hey everyone is different so perhaps you feel differently. Just giving you what my racquets read on the RDC that's all.
I think strung aspects like tension ad string type change ratings and I string pretty low tension with full poly (ratings Im talking about are strung). But yeah Im not hung up on #'s to me its significantly softer than my RA62-63 Prestige MP's and even softer than my Pacific x feel 95's which are like RA 61. It isnt hoop flex though... that thoat flex is something I only can really feel on very big returns (one of the main parts of my game).

Suffice to to say the D beamers are a different kettle of fish. Perhaps its all my years with the Max 200g which has a very dynamic type of flex and low deformation that have goomed my sensitivities a certain way... I full admit it isnt scientific. but I seem to like frames that are a bit dampened and in the high 50's to low 60's.
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
I string RS Lyon at like 43 so its very low. I have a set of Yonex Poly tour pro black in 1.25 I might try. I used to be an 18x20 player but since I switched to a SW forehanf, revamped y main second serve to an american twist and hit a pretty extreme full eastern backhand Ibe learned that the sheer power of spin is my friend in ways it wasnt during the 90's. The thing I love about the TC95 is how well it goes from flat to super spinny and its spin is often surprising. Its hard for others to tell the difference from a super spinny shot or just one of my rally balls spin wise and it gives me a lot of foced form unforced errors. Its just so nice. Now that may main hitting partner has also switched to a tc95 Im getting a taste of it. It is a heavy ball. Not magical but noteworth how dynamic it is and how much contrast it produces in shots.
I strung Black Knight in my 18x20s at 42, but I should have gone to 39/40. YPTP is a good string and should be fine at your usual tension in your 16x19, but 43 would not be low for the 18x20.

I pretty much hit the same grips: mild SW forehand and just east of extreme on the backhand, and I can relate to what you're saying because I hit/fought the 16x19 for a year, but I know better than go back to it. You do make a good case, though, and with the right playing style, the frame is a beast. But with a thin and powerful string (and Black Knight ain't it!), the beast emerges even in the 18x20.
 

NachosLotion

New User
Hi guys,

I ordered a k7 red recently and my L2 seems to feel like L2.5, does anyone know the weight and thickness of the stock base grip?

Also anyone used their Hybrid Pro grip knows the measurement as well?

Would like to downsize by a tick without affecting the balance too much.
 
I strung Black Knight in my 18x20s at 42, but I should have gone to 39/40. YPTP is a good string and should be fine at your usual tension in your 16x19, but 43 would not be low for the 18x20.

I pretty much hit the same grips: mild SW forehand and just east of extreme on the backhand, and I can relate to what you're saying because I hit/fought the 16x19 for a year, but I know better than go back to it. You do make a good case, though, and with the right playing style, the frame is a beast. But with a thin and powerful string (and Black Knight ain't it!), the beast emerges even in the 18x20.
Yeah my backhand grip and forehand are really the same... a sw forehand and a full eastern BH. its a definite advantage on returns. If I played more doubles like I once did I think Id grab an 18x20 to add to the quiver.
 

ed70

Professional
Couldn't agree more. I felt every bit of the 66 RA of the TC97 18x20 that I bought and hit all of two times. I realize that frame is probably 63/64 strung, and to many it's butter, but to me it was stiff. The best dynamic combo of flex/feel I've ever experienced in a frame was the 2014 PCT, but it didn't produce nearly as menacing a ball as the TC95.
Really liked the Babolat PCT, agree though was just a little underpowered, else I’d still be using it.
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
Yeah my backhand grip and forehand are really the same... a sw forehand and a full eastern BH. its a definite advantage on returns. If I played more doubles like I once did I think Id grab an 18x20 to add to the quiver.
How do you have same grip on a semiwestern forehand and a full eastern backhand? It's actually the western forehand grip that if unchanged and taken to backhand side, becomes a full eastern one hander. If you have a full eastern one hander and you don't change grip, that means you have a western forehand and vice versa.

An unchanged semi-western forehand translates to semi-western one handed backhand.
 

emhtennis

Rookie
Do you all think Angell is ok from a financials standpoint? Do we need to buy more rackets to make sure they come out on the other side of this?

I haven't kept up with British news to see if they've passed similar small business support legislation like the US. But even once it's passed it doesn't always get dispersed in time.
 

OlgaOM

New User
Do you all think Angell is ok from a financials standpoint? Do we need to buy more rackets to make sure they come out on the other side of this?

I haven't kept up with British news to see if they've passed similar small business support legislation like the US. But even once it's passed it doesn't always get dispersed in time.
I'd say if you had planned to buy an Angell racquet - this probably would be a good time in terms of supporting their business, cause sales are obviously dropping (most people now are unable to play tennis and a lot are financially insecure)... Otherwise, I wouldn't buy unless they ask for public support.
 

Dansan

Rookie
On the subject of strings for the TC95 63 RA 16/19, I've tried a couple different setups: Full poly 17g BHS7T @48 lbs, and Natural or Syn Gut Hybrids with a smooth round poly cross - varying tensions. I've def learned for me that if I'm doing full poly, then it needs to be mid or low 40s. 48lbs was too high.

For me, plays nicely with both the Nat Gut and SynGut hybrids using a smooth round poly cross. Tensions in the 57/54 to 56.5/53.5 range. I may try 55.5/52.5 to see how low I can go without losing control. I've been using either KLIP 16g NG or Gosen Mirco OG Sheep Syngut 16g mains, and kirschbaum max power 17g for crosses. My TC95 is 345g strung, 32.7cm balance (added lead). Kirschbaum max power is an amazing cross by the way when paired with NG or SG. I think the TC95 is maybe a bit sensitive to setup, and the experience can be entirely different with a bad setup, but once dialed in - the feedback and feeling really shines and comes to life.

I seem to do well in matches even when pushed to defend with the TC95. I want to play more with this frame because it's just that versatile, I need more time with it. Way more playability than the RF97A that I tried to love (and gave up). It has a "real" and "uniform" flex that is not gimicky. Just honest feedback to your hands, much like my older HEADS.
 

saleem

Semi-Pro
On the subject of strings for the TC95 63 RA 16/19, I've tried a couple different setups: Full poly 17g BHS7T @48 lbs, and Natural or Syn Gut Hybrids with a smooth round poly cross - varying tensions. I've def learned for me that if I'm doing full poly, then it needs to be mid or low 40s. 48lbs was too high.

For me, plays nicely with both the Nat Gut and SynGut hybrids using a smooth round poly cross. Tensions in the 57/54 to 56.5/53.5 range. I may try 55.5/52.5 to see how low I can go without losing control. I've been using either KLIP 16g NG or Gosen Mirco OG Sheep Syngut 16g mains, and kirschbaum max power 17g for crosses. My TC95 is 345g strung, 32.7cm balance (added lead). Kirschbaum max power is an amazing cross by the way when paired with NG or SG. I think the TC95 is maybe a bit sensitive to setup, and the experience can be entirely different with a bad setup, but once dialed in - the feedback and feeling really shines and comes to life.

I seem to do well in matches even when pushed to defend with the TC95. I want to play more with this frame because it's just that versatile, I need more time with it. Way more playability than the RF97A that I tried to love (and gave up). It has a "real" and "uniform" flex that is not gimicky. Just honest feedback to your hands, much like my older HEADS.
I had frozen shoulder and did not play at all last year, in the beginning of the year last season I did not know what I had (I thought I had torn rotator cuff etc..) that made me think not to use poly on my tc95s.

My 1st experiment was Babolat origin main 56lbs weiss cannon scorpion crosses 52lbs, it plays very good, soft on the shoulder and elbows, very good pop and spin combination.

I decided to do the 2nd one with NGR2 17 main 56lbs weiss cannon silverstring crosses 52, it is more softer and powerfull than the above setup but lacks the spin, most of my doubles games are good with this setup.
Few days ago I have done the 3rd racket with Gosen Syngut 17 54lbs ISOspeed baseline crosses 50lbs I am waiting to play with this setup, hopefully this COVID-19 goes away soon.
 
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Dansan

Rookie
I had a frozen shoulder and did not play at all last year, in the beginning of the year last season I did not know what I had (I thought I had torn rotator cuff etc..) that made me think not to use poly on my tc95s.

My 1st experiment was Babolat origin main 56lbs weiss cannon scorpion crosses 52lbs, it plays very good, soft on the shoulder and elbows, very good pop and spin combination.

I decided to do the 2nd one with NGR2 17 main 56lbs weiss cannon silverstring crosses 52, it is more softer and powerfull than the above setup but lacks the spin, most of my doubles games are good with this setup.
Few days ago I have done the 3rd racket with Gosen Syngut 17 54lbs ISOspeed baseline crosses 50lbs I am waiting to play with this setup, hopefully this COVID-19 goes away soon.
Hope you get to play soon! I've had a history of flaring up shoulder and elbow issues with poly, and changing over to hybrids has seemingly helped a ton. I can tell you that Gosen OG micro synthetic gut is amazing stuff as a main. It feels like a crisp natural gut with good durability. Let me know how that plays for you, I'm curious because I have not gone down that low to 54lbs with my mains yet. I'm enjoying it around 56.5ish right now, but I may try going lower.
 

Mkiske

Rookie
I never tried the Gosen OG micro Sheep on the mains. Always played with it on the crosses to soften the poly on the mains.

Anyway, I usually play with polyester string. I have a Gosen OGMS reel and it's currently unused. I will take the opportunity to test this setup (synthetic mains + poly crosses) on the Tc101 as soon as possible.
 
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saleem

Semi-Pro
Hope you get to play soon! I've had a history of flaring up shoulder and elbow issues with poly, and changing over to hybrids has seemingly helped a ton. I can tell you that Gosen OG micro synthetic gut is amazing stuff as a main. It feels like a crisp natural gut with good durability. Let me know how that plays for you, I'm curious because I have not gone down that low to 54lbs with my mains yet. I'm enjoying it around 56.5ish right now, but I may try going lower.
Thank you @Dansan shoulder is better now I hope that COVID situation gets better soon.
tension is low on mains but I do use string savers on all of my rackets when I use syngut or multis otherwise it does not last too long, string savers do bring the tension up by 1-1.5 lbs.
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Wavering between a TC100 or TC101 - any helpful pointers please. Flat hitter, all court player. Thanks
I had the TC100 for a while. Had a good amount of spin potential. I would probably go with the one with a tighter string pattern. Not sure if the drill pattern is wider or not from one racquet to the other. Both do have 6 mains in the throat. I wonder if the crosses might have different spacing
 

NachosLotion

New User
If I had to estimate it was a bit above the spec SW of 280. The frame came in 2 grams over spec weight of 305 grams. I don't mind as I will not have to add as much weight. I changed the stock grip to my grip of choice, Wilson Contour and added 2 grams to the butt of the handle and 3 grams total at 3 and 9. The unstrung weight is now roughly 315 grams. Strung will be 330 grams and I would estimate a SW in the area of 325 give or take.
Abit of a late reply but I just saw your post.

I just ordered a k7 red as well (last week) and specifically asked for the swingweight range of existing stock and I didn't want one that was over specced for me.

I was told that the lowest swingweight piece they have across all grip sizes was 290 unstrung and that was just a week ago. Which surprised me as I also read on this forum that the K7 red is supposed to be in the mid 280s.

So I quickly ordered a piece of 290 ;)
 

tennis347

Professional
Abit of a late reply but I just saw your post.

I just ordered a k7 red as well (last week) and specifically asked for the swingweight range of existing stock and I didn't want one that was over specced for me.

I was told that the lowest swingweight piece they have across all grip sizes was 290 unstrung and that was just a week ago. Which surprised me as I also read on this forum that the K7 red is supposed to be in the mid 280s.

So I quickly ordered a piece of 290 ;)
So I guess mine is also about a 290 SW unstrung as well. Possibly a tad over since mine came in 2 grams over spec weight. That's fine by me. That would come to about a 320 SW strung. I added a Wilson Contour grip and about 1.5 grams to the butt as well as 2 grams at 10 and 2. This will bring it up to about 325-327 which is rightin my wheel house. It will also be pretty HL and easy to swing.
 

NachosLotion

New User
So I guess mine is also about a 290 SW unstrung as well. Possibly a tad over since mine came in 2 grams over spec weight. That's fine by me. That would come to about a 320 SW strung. I added a Wilson Contour grip and about 1.5 grams to the butt as well as 2 grams at 10 and 2. This will bring it up to about 325-327 which is rightin my wheel house. It will also be pretty HL and easy to swing.
I was thinking of switching out the grip as well so had asked the grip question to the Angell team and got following response:

"Our PU grips are 1.8mm thickness and approximately 20g on a 27” frame. The Hybrid grip is the same thickness but compresses less and weighs approximately 6g more."

So I'm guessing the usual synthetic grips are around 14-16g installed and that would take roughly 5g off the handle... Gotta factor that in as 5g is huge in balance.
 

stephenclown

Professional
I played with a friend's in the exact same 300g setup. It was very unimpressive to me compared to TC97. It lacked the control and scalpel like precision of TC97 and was only marginally more powerful because of bigger head shape. Only thing it felt similar in was the way it flexed (hoop). Felt very awkward on my 1HBH whereas TC97 gives the feeling I can't ever miss on my backhand. It has more power than TC97 but still lacks the punch you get from 100 sq inch tweeners. Also, volleying was just ok, not great as you would expect from an all court sort of a stick which I consider TC97 to be. If someone goes in thinking this is a bigger TC97, I fear they will be disappointed.

To me it feels like the 101 has a wandering soul and is struggling to find its raison detre. Needless to say, my least favorite Angell. Full points though for the Octane PJ. Looks even more gorgeous in person.
Hey Sanister, which version of the 97 do you like? I found the 97 a much better frame than the 95. I felt the 95 lacked a heap of stability and was lacking a real linear response as well as control but that was the 16x19 and I played the 18x20 97.

I found that the Phantom 97P with lead on it a great frame after the Angells, wondering if it's worth having a random 97 in my bag again.
 

tennis347

Professional
I was thinking of switching out the grip as well so had asked the grip question to the Angell team and got following response:

"Our PU grips are 1.8mm thickness and approximately 20g on a 27” frame. The Hybrid grip is the same thickness but compresses less and weighs approximately 6g more."

So I'm guessing the usual synthetic grips are around 14-16g installed and that would take roughly 5g off the handle... Gotta factor that in as 5g is huge in balance.
The Wilson Contour grip added 4 grams weight to my racquet. A usual synthetic grip is more than 16 grams. It is also depends on the type of synthetic grip.
 

haqq777

Legend
I posted pics here in this thread for both Angell leather (black and tan) as well as synthetic (black) on my kitchen scale a while back. All three of my leather grips, trimmed and installed by Angell, came in at 20g on the dot which was very impressive. Synthetic were 13.3g, 14g and 14.4g.
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
Hey Sanister, which version of the 97 do you like? I found the 97 a much better frame than the 95. I felt the 95 lacked a heap of stability and was lacking a real linear response as well as control but that was the 16x19 and I played the 18x20 97.

I found that the Phantom 97P with lead on it a great frame after the Angells, wondering if it's worth having a random 97 in my bag again.
I agree, 97P is a fantastic frame. I have honestly been a Prince fan for a while and went ga ga when they released the Phantom line a few years back. If the 97P weighted up suits your game, I say stick with it for sure.

As for TC97, I have the v2 TC97 16x19 and v3 TC97 18X20 so have played with both patterns. I like them both and agree with you as I find they are more torsionally stable than TC95. At the same time, I find that TC95, at same specs hits a bigger ball so it is a give and take sort of a thing.The 18x20 TC95 has more control and less spin for me, and also doesn't feel like it twists as much. But overall, both string patterns feel a bit less stable than any patter tc97 to me. It might be the boxier beam design of the 97.

I like Angells so hey, I would always keep one in the bag but thts just me :)
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
I posted pics here in this thread for both Angell leather (black and tan) as well as synthetic (black) on my kitchen scale a while back. All three of my leather grips, trimmed and installed by Angell, came in at 20g on the dot which was very impressive. Synthetic were 13.3g, 14g and 14.4g.
Indeed, mine came at around the same weight!
 

3loudboys

Hall of Fame
I have been tempted by the TC100 with the following specs, 27.25 inches long, 63 RA, 310 weight, 315 balance and the standard grip. I was trying to figure the swing weight of that combination and coming up short. Would appreciate any experience or feedback.
 

ed70

Professional
In my experience, the launch angle of TC97 16x19 also relatively low, given how open the pattern is.
Yeh 16x19 TC97 looks pretty open but has much lower launch angle than tc95 16x19 & tc100. Great for hitting flat bombs & slice but spins there when you brush the ball. Where I always much preferred the tc95 & Tc 100 with round poly, Tc97 plays grey with round & shaped poly & also hybrids.
 

Envy

Rookie
Hi,

been using the rf97, microgel prestige pro, ultra tour, and youtek Igmp for years now, and Im planning try an angell and possibly switch to it. Im looking to get a 16x19 version this time as Im looking for some easy putaway power ( I like 18x20 for its control but found I win more matches with 16x19 frames). Been considering the k7 red or the tc97 16x19 and 18x20 version. Hope anyone from this forum can share their thoughts about this frame. Curious to know the head shape and string pattern of the tc97 16x19 compares to the rf97 as well as the prestige pro.

Ill be ordering possibly next week once the quarantine restrictions are lifted. Thanks
 

topspn

Legend
Hi,

been using the rf97, microgel prestige pro, ultra tour, and youtek Igmp for years now, and Im planning try an angell and possibly switch to it. Im looking to get a 16x19 version this time as Im looking for some easy putaway power ( I like 18x20 for its control but found I win more matches with 16x19 frames). Been considering the k7 red or the tc97 16x19 and 18x20 version. Hope anyone from this forum can share their thoughts about this frame. Curious to know the head shape and string pattern of the tc97 16x19 compares to the rf97 as well as the prestige pro.

Ill be ordering possibly next week once the quarantine restrictions are lifted. Thanks
If you’ve been playing 18x20 then go for TC97.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
Hi,

been using the rf97, microgel prestige pro, ultra tour, and youtek Igmp for years now, and Im planning try an angell and possibly switch to it. Im looking to get a 16x19 version this time as Im looking for some easy putaway power ( I like 18x20 for its control but found I win more matches with 16x19 frames). Been considering the k7 red or the tc97 16x19 and 18x20 version. Hope anyone from this forum can share their thoughts about this frame. Curious to know the head shape and string pattern of the tc97 16x19 compares to the rf97 as well as the prestige pro.

Ill be ordering possibly next week once the quarantine restrictions are lifted. Thanks
As I played with yt ig mp, tc97 18x20, K7 Lime, TC95 63RA 18x20 before and nowadays with Ultra Tour I would recommend you to try the TC95 16x19.
 

OlgaOM

New User
Hi,

been using the rf97, microgel prestige pro, ultra tour, and youtek Igmp for years now, and Im planning try an angell and possibly switch to it. Im looking to get a 16x19 version this time as Im looking for some easy putaway power ( I like 18x20 for its control but found I win more matches with 16x19 frames). Been considering the k7 red or the tc97 16x19 and 18x20 version. Hope anyone from this forum can share their thoughts about this frame. Curious to know the head shape and string pattern of the tc97 16x19 compares to the rf97 as well as the prestige pro.

Ill be ordering possibly next week once the quarantine restrictions are lifted. Thanks
Both k7 red and TC97 doesn’t really give you any “free” put away power.
RF97 head is more round compared to Angells which look more oval
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
Yah, it's completely different for sure from a TC97 18x20 but everyone is making it sound like it's THE racquet to demo.
I found 18x20 TC97 to be quite similar to iPrestige mid (not enough time with PC600 to compare) so unless the newest Prestige Mid is a dramatic department from the roots, I'd say they should not be that different...
 

topspn

Legend
Yah, it's completely different for sure from a TC97 18x20 but everyone is making it sound like it's THE racquet to demo.
A lot of people get excited including myself when we hit with a racquet that we seem to gel with. We forget about practicalities in those instances which is all I’m suggesting. A friend has the 95 and it’s pretty nice but not very forgiving. I’d say TC95 is a bit more forgiving for instance
 

itsstephenyo

Semi-Pro
I found 18x20 TC97 to be quite similar to iPrestige mid (not enough time with PC600 to compare) so unless the newest Prestige Mid is a dramatic department from the roots, I'd say they should not be that different...
That actually makes me a lot more interested in testing one. 16x19 in a 93 head hmmmmm


I just can't suck, don't frame any shots, and have to play perfectly. Easy!
 

Faris

Professional
It´s funny that i´ve replyed to itsstephenyo yesterday when i said he was interested in trying a TC 97. I posted that i have one V2 TC 97 for sale , and my post disappeared.
What´s the problem with that post , since it´s about a racket that TW doesn´t sell , and the post it´s on a Angell fórum , that only people that are in the Angell wagon use.
there are stuff that really just makes TW look bad. I know there´s a sales fórum , but really. This Angell Users club it´s really apart from the rest of the TW talk thing , but still it seems to hurt them in the ass...
You are using TW board/forum which they moderate, bad mouthing them for set of rules in place which you violated? And look at the way you posted "hurt them in the ass" etc. Is that a good way to talk?

At the end of the day, if you posted about selling something, it is in the TW rules to not do that. You can only post for sale or trade posts in the classifieds area of forum. You are violating their rules and also whining about it. Nothing wrong in having a post removed which doesn't follow rules. It is as simple as that.
 

Faris

Professional
i think there may be some server glitches yesterday... as i have noticed a couple of posts from other threads across the forum "gone missing" yesterday.....
maybe i was seeing things... but that is possible. :unsure:
My friend, for sale posts anywhere on website (except for the proper for sale or wanted area) get removed. It isn't something new and I have seen it happen time and time again. In fact whole threads get removed sometimes. Just the rules they have in place.
 
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