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LeeCMB

New User
Hey guys,

I currently own a pair of K7 Lime rackets. Love the comfort, feel and control, but I miss the spin from the back of the court in singles play.

Has anyone compared the K7 Lime with the K7 Red? Does the K7 Red have much more spin potential? And is it similar playing, albeit 15g lighter and 16/18.

I've also been looking at the new Prince 93p 14/18 as an alternative.

Have any of you guys compared these rackets?
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Hey guys,

I currently own a pair of K7 Lime rackets. Love the comfort, feel and control, but I miss the spin from the back of the court in singles play.

Has anyone compared the K7 Lime with the K7 Red? Does the K7 Red have much more spin potential? And is it similar playing, albeit 15g lighter and 16/18.

I've also been looking at the new Prince 93p 14/18 as an alternative.

Have any of you guys compared these rackets?
Have a Lime myself and wish it was simply a color and string pattern variant of the Red. Because of the central chunk of weight in the Lime, I find it hard to customize to my liking and keep it under 345 grams. I keep gravitating back to my TC95s and wishing they were TC98s. Compromise always seems to be a part of it.

Sorry, but I haven't tried the K7 Red. I can't deal with Angell's open 16x19 patterns.
 

BBender716

Semi-Pro
I play test Wilson Pro Staff Six.One 95, the paint job is Federer's 2013 wimbledon, anyway, what would be the equivalent to Angell on that matter? The TC95 is D-beam while 97 is box beam. Anyway, loving my TC100 and I think this racket forced me to learn good footwork(still learning) and proper swing/preparation compared to when I'm using Babolat PAT or Aero Pro before where you can get away with poor mechanics because of easy power. I tried the Pro staff 95 before but I hate it as it's low powered, but now, I'm loving it and I can control or produce the ball I wanted and it has a good power on it too, surprisingly. So I guess I'm ready to try 95 now.
I've got one up for sale in classifieds if you're interested. It definitely has some pop to it and I bought it after playing with a Six.One 98S for a long while.

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tennis347

Professional
Hey guys,

I currently own a pair of K7 Lime rackets. Love the comfort, feel and control, but I miss the spin from the back of the court in singles play.

Has anyone compared the K7 Lime with the K7 Red? Does the K7 Red have much more spin potential? And is it similar playing, albeit 15g lighter and 16/18.

I've also been looking at the new Prince 93p 14/18 as an alternative.

Have any of you guys compared these rackets?
I have not hit with K7 Lime but have a matching pair of K7 Reds that I bought directly from Angell. The spin production is very good compared to other 16 x 19 frames and certainly will have alot easier spin potential over the Lime that has an 18 x 20 pattern. In addition, there is room for customization with the K7 Red as the frame is only 305 grams unstrung. I would say that the K7 Red will be alot easier to use but the control will not be quite as good as the Lime. I personally prefer open 16 x 19 string patterns.
 

Caol-ila

Rookie
Hey guys,

I currently own a pair of K7 Lime rackets. Love the comfort, feel and control, but I miss the spin from the back of the court in singles play.

Has anyone compared the K7 Lime with the K7 Red? Does the K7 Red have much more spin potential? And is it similar playing, albeit 15g lighter and 16/18.

I've also been looking at the new Prince 93p 14/18 as an alternative.

Have any of you guys compared these rackets?
Just tonight I have used both my K7Red and my K7Lime. The Red is 10 grams lighter, balance 320 vs the 310 of the Lime. Both customized in different ways.
The Red has a higher spin potential, it is softer, less precise and powerful than the Lime. Bigger sweet spot, less control.
The Red is my favorite racquet, mainly because it minimizes my double faults, but I often try and use the Lime because it improves my slice backhand. It is also better at the net, where I do not go very often.
 

LeeCMB

New User
Just tonight I have used both my K7Red and my K7Lime. The Red is 10 grams lighter, balance 320 vs the 310 of the Lime. Both customized in different ways.
The Red has a higher spin potential, it is softer, less precise and powerful than the Lime. Bigger sweet spot, less control.
The Red is my favorite racquet, mainly because it minimizes my double faults, but I often try and use the Lime because it improves my slice backhand. It is also better at the net, where I do not go very often.

Ah I see. So you'd say the Red is more comfortable and less powerful?

Thanks for all your responses guys
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
Have a Lime myself and wish it was simply a color and string pattern variant of the Red. Because of the central chunk of weight in the Lime, I find it hard to customize to my liking and keep it under 345 grams. I keep gravitating back to my TC95s and wishing they were TC98s. Compromise always seems to be a part of it.

Sorry, but I haven't tried the K7 Red. I can't deal with Angell's open 16x19 patterns.
Hey pneumated1, saw the Lime in classifieds,are you reverting to your TC95 18x20 then? I know you were looking for a comparison between the two & then once you found Lime you really loved it so I'm curious what got you back to the TC95! I mean it is a fantastic racquet so can't blame ya but just curious what was lacking in Lime for you?

I went through the same thing btw.For me it was just that TC95 offered better maneuverability for me overall & also hit a bigger ball from baseline. Lime has that plush soft feedback going for it too though! I ended up trading my Lime in the end.
 
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Jouke

Semi-Pro
Hey pneumated1, saw the Lime in classifieds,are you reverting to your TC95 18x20 then? I know you were looking for a comparison between the two & then once you found Lime you really loved it so I'm curious what got you back to the TC95! I mean it is a fantastic racquet so can't blame ya but just curious what was lacking in Lime for you?

I went through the same thing btw.For me it was just that TC95 offered better maneuverability for me overall & also hit a bigger ball from baseline. Lime has that plush soft feedback going for it too though! I ended up trading my Lime in the end.
Well I think Pneumated couldnt be more clear to be honest. The somewhat high static weight of the lime and the fact that the pallets are molded (non removable, and no possibility to remove lead weights from the handle. My lime has no Trap door as well.. ) make it more difficult to customize to the desired specs. I would have loved it if the lime would have been 305g unstrung because it leaves more room for customizing. (Especially with the trend of more and more players using lighter sticks).

On the lime vs red. Reds launch angle was a little high and weird for me. The poster above must have made a little typo because the red is MORE powerful than the lime of course.
 

tennis347

Professional
Well I think Pneumated couldnt be more clear to be honest. The somewhat high static weight of the lime and the fact that the pallets are molded (non removable, and no possibility to remove lead weights from the handle. My lime has no Trap door as well.. ) make it more difficult to customize to the desired specs. I would have loved it if the lime would have been 305g unstrung because it leaves more room for customizing. (Especially with the trend of more and more players using lighter sticks).

On the lime vs red. Reds launch angle was a little high and weird for me. The poster above must have made a little typo because the red is MORE powerful than the lime of course.
The K7 Red now continues to be my racquet of choice. The unique feel, comfort, spin and easy use bring alot to the table that other racquets don't have! It might a tad low on power but it forces you to be creative and the spin generation creates high bouncing balls are tough for opponents to handle.
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
Well I think Pneumated couldnt be more clear to be honest. The somewhat high static weight of the lime and the fact that the pallets are molded (non removable, and no possibility to remove lead weights from the handle. My lime has no Trap door as well.. ) make it more difficult to customize to the desired specs. I would have loved it if the lime would have been 305g unstrung because it leaves more room for customizing. (Especially with the trend of more and more players using lighter sticks).

On the lime vs red. Reds launch angle was a little high and weird for me. The poster above must have made a little typo because the red is MORE powerful than the lime of course.
Thank you but I was hoping he would chime in on if there were any other reasons besides customization (since he obviously mentioned the static weight being higher). Was hoping to hear more in terms of how he felt comparing both from a playability perspective as I went through the same thing myself & was interested in his thoughts.Also had a UT phase like him as well.
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Hey pneumated1, saw the Lime in classifieds,are you reverting to your TC95 18x20 then? I know you were looking for a comparison between the two & then once you found Lime you really loved it so I'm curious what got you back to the TC95! I mean it is a fantastic racquet so can't blame ya but just curious what was lacking in Lime for you?

I went through the same thing btw.For me it was just that TC95 offered better maneuverability for me overall & also hit a bigger ball from baseline. Lime has that plush soft feedback going for it too though! I ended up trading my Lime in the end.
Hey there sanister. The Lime is a great frame but proved to be a little too soft and plush for my preferences. Can't believe I'm stating that because I prefer muted and plush frames, but there were times when I lost a little control because I wasn't sure what the ball was doing off the strings. That forced me to reign in my targeting just a bit. Granted, I had it strung with gut/poly at 52/50 (probably too low). My Lime with that setup, even stock, was more powerful than the TC95 and hit a high-quality ball, but I was also consistently hitting random balls just long, even on my bh slice.

I added a leather grip, a few grams at 3/9, and touch of head tape at 12 to try to find a solution. It gave me a little better feel and connection, but I was pushing 345-350 grams, and I just don't want to be that high anymore. If the Lime came in, like the Red, at 305 grams, I'm sure I would have had more success customizing it. But because the extra weight of the Lime is centrally located (feels like throat area to me), any added weight just made it feel more clunky. And it had the characteristic C-10 Pro/Classic Prestige head 'wobble.' And I've never preferred those frames because of that.

At the end of the day, I'm so much more familiar with and prefer the TC95 18x20's comfortably firm feel, response, and control. But I'm still stuck wanting that same response in a true 98" package. The TC97 doesn't give me that. The K7 doesn't give me that.

However, I did pick up a used TF40 305, and it gives me what I'm looking for in spades, but I'm adjusting to the thicker beam and balance shift, trying to meet the racquet on its terms. I'm hitting it stock with just a little counter weight to get to 4-5pts hl, but it has promise. It is a quality frame but doesn't move with the quickness of the TC95. That's the only compromise so far.
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
Hey there sanister. The Lime is a great frame but proved to be a little too soft and plush for my preferences. Can't believe I'm stating that because I prefer muted and plush frames, but there were times when I lost a little control because I wasn't sure what the ball was doing off the strings. That forced me to reign in my targeting just a bit. Granted, I had it strung with gut/poly at 52/50 (probably too low). My Lime with that setup, even stock, was more powerful than the TC95 and hit a high-quality ball, but I was also consistently hitting random balls just long, even on my bh slice.

I added a leather grip, a few grams at 3/9, and touch of head tape at 12 to try to find a solution. It gave me a little better feel and connection, but I was pushing 345-350 grams, and I just don't want to be that high anymore. If the Lime came in, like the Red, at 305 grams, I'm sure I would have had more success customizing it. But because the extra weight of the Lime is centrally located (feels like throat area to me), any added weight just made it feel more clunky. And it had the characteristic C-10 Pro/Classic Prestige head 'wobble.' And I've never preferred those frames because of that.

At the end of the day, I'm so much more familiar with and prefer the TC95 18x20's comfortably firm feel, response, and control. But I'm still stuck wanting that same response in a true 98" package. The TC97 doesn't give me that. The K7 doesn't give me that.

However, I did pick up a used TF40 305, and it gives me what I'm looking for in spades, but I'm adjusting to the thicker beam and balance shift, trying to meet the racquet on its terms. I'm hitting it stock with just a little counter weight to get to 4-5pts hl, but it has promise. It is a quality frame but doesn't move with the quickness of the TC95. That's the only compromise so far.
Thanks for the detailed answer pneumated1, I felt that very similar Prestige like hoop flex when I added weight to the Lime as well so can totally relate. I had mine strung up with a bunch of setups & I just couldn't dial in.That whole D beam uniform flex in the TC95 is addictive for sure and I'm always searching for that feedback in whatever racquet I seem to try.

I felt that the box beam of the TC97 responded very very different than D beam & I just couldn't really gel with it although it is a great frame nevertheless. Would it be too much to ask for a 8 main D Beam 98 head size TC? Haha.I think I've come across a bunch here willing to support the cause.

Haven't tried the TF 40 305 but it got released I think when V7 Blade came out & a few other frames so I overlooked it. Perhaps I should give it a look as well.It just went under my radar.

Thanks for your input!
 

haqq777

Legend
Well I think Pneumated couldnt be more clear to be honest. The somewhat high static weight of the lime and the fact that the pallets are molded (non removable, and no possibility to remove lead weights from the handle. My lime has no Trap door as well.. ) make it more difficult to customize to the desired specs. I would have loved it if the lime would have been 305g unstrung because it leaves more room for customizing. (Especially with the trend of more and more players using lighter sticks).

On the lime vs red. Reds launch angle was a little high and weird for me. The poster above must have made a little typo because the red is MORE powerful than the lime of course.
Very different experience than yours for me. Did a comparison and review for both somewhere in this thread. Red is not as powerful as Lime strung with same string setup. Yes, the launch angle for Red is higher due to the more open pattern but that does not necessarily relate to inherent power of the stick. Lime being beefier has considerably more plow than Red in stock form. That said, both are fantastic feeling frames but neither are as powerful as D Beam offerings in the TC series.
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
Very different experience than yours for me. Did a comparison and review for both somewhere in this thread. Red is not as powerful as Lime strung with same string setup. Yes, the launch angle for Red is higher due to the more open pattern but that does not necessarily relate to inherent power of the stick. Lime being beefier has considerably more plow than Red in stock form. That said, both are fantastic feeling frames but neither are as powerful as D Beam offerings in the TC series.
Yes, agreed.I couldn't gel with K7 Red because of the typical Angell open pattern 16x19 the ball was launching higher. I also found early batches of K7 Red to play very different than later batches so didn't feel like investing too much time in tinkering honestly.But feel wise, it is second to none! Very sweet feeling racquet.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Very different experience than yours for me. Did a comparison and review for both somewhere in this thread. Red is not as powerful as Lime strung with same string setup. Yes, the launch angle for Red is higher due to the more open pattern but that does not necessarily relate to inherent power of the stick. Lime being beefier has considerably more plow than Red in stock form. That said, both are fantastic feeling frames but neither are as powerful as D Beam offerings in the TC series.
Was your red one of the earlier batches? Mine was of the firmer batch and hit with ample power! I remember Topspin hitting with the K7 Red from the earlier batches and that didnt have enough power and was too soft.

I just cant seem to get it right. Like many of you guys I am or was stuck between Angell rackets. I keep coming back to them because the feel and the quality is just superb.

K7 red: launch angle issue, and somehow annoyed my elbow a bit
K7 lime: somewhat too heavy and the grip size/shape feels different from the custom series
TC95 18x20: nice but missing some stability and swingweight around 340 strung was just too much for me.
TC 100 16x19: lovely frame but a little too much power, too much spin, difficult to hit flat with. And I cant seem to gel with it on serve that well.

Many of us have gone the Ultra Tour route, but that for me has some weird ultra power spot in the frame the ball just flies.might have been too low swingweight for some and some say it was unstable. Plus wilson qc you dont know what you are gonna get.

I ended up with the new V7 Blade and chose TW matching service.

Maybe a TC 100 18x20 or a TC98 18x20 would be the ultimate racket?
 
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haqq777

Legend
Was your lime one of the earlier batches? Mine was of the firmer batch and hit with ample power! I remember Topspin hitting with the K7 Red from the earlier batches and that didnt have enough power and was too soft.

I just cant seem to get it right. Like many of you guys I am or was stuck between Angell rackets. I keep coming back to them because the feel and the quality is just superb.

K7 red: launch angle issue, and somehow annoyed my elbow a bit
K7 lime: somewhat too heavy and the grip size/shape feels different from the custom series
TC95 18x20: nice but missing some stability and swingweight around 340 strung was just too much for me.
TC 100 16x19: lovely frame but a little too much power, too much spin, difficult to hit flat with. And I cant seem to gel with it on serve that well.

Many of us have gone the Ultra Tour route, but that for me has some weird ultra power spot in the frame the ball just flies.might have been too low swingweight for some and some say it was unstable. Plus wilson qc you dont know what you are gonna get.

I ended up with the new V7 Blade and chose TW matching service.

Maybe a TC 100 18x20 or a TC98 18x20 would be the ultimate racket?
I think Limes have been consistent in RA since they came out. Perhaps you meant what batch Red I had since those had the RA discrepancy?

I actually tried both Reds; had one from the very early second batch which was 57 RA strung if I remember same as @topspn, and then got one from later batch from late last year after hearing from everyone that it had been firmed up a bit. That was 62RA strung (got that one from fellow poster @Faris actually).

Early batch was legit low powered. Needed weight in hoop. The later batch one definitely played with more power than previous batch Red. Felt very plush still, but with just a tad crisper feedback on impact compared to older batch one. And wasn't super low powered or anemic or anything like that. Just that compared to K7 Lime it still felt lower powered. My Lime was also 62 RA strung BTW like the later batch Red when I had it measured on RDC.

I can totally relate about coming back to Angells. I have all these flings and then find myself going back to my Angells (only to try something else - racquetholic curse, I know). I think V7 Blades are pretty amazing by the way and matching service was a great idea considering Wilson QC. Did you go with 18x20 or 16x19?

And my friend, I hear ya! I think both TC100 with 8 main or a TC98 with both patterns would be such a welcome addition in my humble opinion.
 

haqq777

Legend
Yes, agreed.I couldn't gel with K7 Red because of the typical Angell open pattern 16x19 the ball was launching higher. I also found early batches of K7 Red to play very different than later batches so didn't feel like investing too much time in tinkering honestly.But feel wise, it is second to none! Very sweet feeling racquet.
Yep, I think K7 both Red and Lime are the sweetest feeling frames in the Angell lineup without a doubt.
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Was your red one of the earlier batches? Mine was of the firmer batch and hit with ample power! I remember Topspin hitting with the K7 Red from the earlier batches and that didnt have enough power and was too soft.

I just cant seem to get it right. Like many of you guys I am or was stuck between Angell rackets. I keep coming back to them because the feel and the quality is just superb.

K7 red: launch angle issue, and somehow annoyed my elbow a bit
K7 lime: somewhat too heavy and the grip size/shape feels different from the custom series
TC95 18x20: nice but missing some stability and swingweight around 340 strung was just too much for me.
TC 100 16x19: lovely frame but a little too much power, too much spin, difficult to hit flat with. And I cant seem to gel with it on serve that well.

Many of us have gone the Ultra Tour route, but that for me has some weird ultra power spot in the frame the ball just flies.might have been too low swingweight for some and some say it was unstable. Plus wilson qc you dont know what you are gonna get.

I ended up with the new V7 Blade and chose TW matching service.

Maybe a TC 100 18x20 or a TC98 18x20 would be the ultimate racket?
I can relate to much of what you say, but I'm no longer stuck between racquets; I'm down to my last Angell option. I feel like I hit the TC95 18x20 well, but it's demanding. I'm playing my pair at only 335 grams, around 7pts hl, and 326 swing weight, and I have to say that it's stable enough, powerful, and quick for its weight. However, its stability issues could be fixed by increasing the head size to 98" and increasing the beam width to the TC100's 21mm. So I totally agree, as do many in this thread, that a uniform flex TC98 would be the ultimate Angell. There's a disappointing gap in the line for many of us who don't get along with the current open 16x19.

I was able to hit a Blade V7 18x20 for about 10 minutes. Ironically, it's almost a hybrid of the TC95 18x20 and K7 Lime. Good choice;)
 
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volleynets

Professional
Those who have the Octane paint. How cool does it look?

I'm considering buying a third tc97 to get the octane color and I'm totally crazy about these frames!!
 
while waiting for the Octane V3 TC95 16x19s, started thinking about what strings should i string them with? My go to strings are RS Lyon, Tier One BK, Legend Gut/Poly. Did anyone try Diadem Solstice Power in TC95 16x19? If so, can you please share the feedback? Seems like its great for spin and comfortable for a poly and i met a rep. who can get me the strings for fraction of the proce. Appreciate any feedback
 

PigPen

Semi-Pro
I think Limes have been consistent in RA since they came out. Perhaps you meant what batch Red I had since those had the RA discrepancy?

I actually tried both Reds; had one from the very early second batch which was 57 RA strung if I remember same as @topspn, and then got one from later batch from late last year after hearing from everyone that it had been firmed up a bit. That was 62RA strung (got that one from fellow poster @Faris actually).

Early batch was legit low powered. Needed weight in hoop. The later batch one definitely played with more power than previous batch Red. Felt very plush still, but with just a tad crisper feedback on impact compared to older batch one. And wasn't super low powered or anemic or anything like that. Just that compared to K7 Lime it still felt lower powered. My Lime was also 62 RA strung BTW like the later batch Red when I had it measured on RDC.

I can totally relate about coming back to Angells. I have all these flings and then find myself going back to my Angells (only to try something else - racquetholic curse, I know). I think V7 Blades are pretty amazing by the way and matching service was a great idea considering Wilson QC. Did you go with 18x20 or 16x19?

And my friend, I hear ya! I think both TC100 with 8 main or a TC98 with both patterns would be such a welcome addition in my humble opinion.
When did the K7 Red stiffness change? Was this conformed by Paul?
 

haqq777

Legend
When did the K7 Red stiffness change? Was this conformed by Paul?
I am not sure starting from which batch exactly they brought it up to advertised RA, but was reported by multiple posters that early batches - while still 64 RA unstrung on paper like current ones - actually came in at much lower stiffness in the mid to high fifties strung. Mine was from second batch from very early 2018. I checked mine too as I have access to RDC and mine was 57 RA strung (59 RA unstrung).

When I got another Red end of last year, that one was 62 RA strung (and 64 RA unstrung) as should actually be. I'm not sure if Paul confirmed himself or not but I bet he was aware of it as he reads this thread.
 

Faris

Professional
When did the K7 Red stiffness change? Was this conformed by Paul?
Got mine in Feb of 2019 and its RA was in line with advertised specs... A friend got one July of 2018 and his was softer, same as haqq and others.. has to be somewhere in middle I'm guessing.. Paul knows about this.
 

Faris

Professional
I am not sure starting from which batch exactly they brought it up to advertised RA, but was reported by multiple posters that early batches - while still 64 RA unstrung on paper like current ones - actually came in at much lower stiffness in the mid to high fifties strung. Mine was from second batch from very early 2018. I checked mine too as I have access to RDC and mine was 57 RA strung (59 RA unstrung).

When I got another Red end of last year, that one was 62 RA strung (and 64 RA unstrung) as should actually be. I'm not sure if Paul confirmed himself or not but I bet he was aware of it as he reads this thread.
When u sent me yours to try I remember that difference was very subtle but it was a darker shade red than mine.. perhaps that could be an identifier too? And your 3/8 ran bigger than mine as well (but that was later identified by Tennis Nerd as a manufacturing issue I remember reading)..
 

esm

Hall of Fame
And your 3/8 ran bigger than mine as well (but that was later identified by Tennis Nerd as a manufacturing issue I remember reading)..
now reading this - it reminded me of my K7 Red grip. I got mine pre-loved, so don’t know which batch it is. Got it around summer time 2018 I think. After a few sessions I felt the L3 grip with my usual 0.70mm OG felt bigger, so I was going to replace the Angell grip with a thinner replacement grip. When I removed the Angell base grip, I noticed a white plastic piece wrapped around the pallet. It is definitely Hard plastic, not the soft plastic similar to the heat sleeve. Cut out the hard white plastic, replaced the Angell base grip and added my usual 0.70mm OG, it felt the same as the TC100 with the same base grip and the 0.70mm..... weird... lol
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
Got mine in Feb of 2019 and its RA was in line with advertised specs... A friend got one July of 2018 and his was softer, same as haqq and others.. has to be somewhere in middle I'm guessing.. Paul knows about this.
I now have that exact same K7 Red haqq got from you btw.

Quick sidenote:How was your meetup with him last month? Did you teach him a lesson he will never forget with those recently acquired S&V skills using the TC95 you were telling me about? ;)
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
now reading this - it reminded me of my K7 Red grip. I got mine pre-loved, so don’t know which batch it is. Got it around summer time 2018 I think. After a few sessions I felt the L3 grip with my usual 0.70mm OG felt bigger, so I was going to replace the Angell grip with a thinner replacement grip. When I removed the Angell base grip, I noticed a white plastic piece wrapped around the pallet. It is definitely Hard plastic, not the soft plastic similar to the heat sleeve. Cut out the hard white plastic, replaced the Angell base grip and added my usual 0.70mm OG, it felt the same as the TC100 with the same base grip and the 0.70mm..... weird... lol
Thats pretty interesting your K7 had a pallet like the custom series! All the K7 I have seen have a handle molded on.
 

esm

Hall of Fame
Thats pretty interesting your K7 had a pallet like the custom series! All the K7 I have seen have a handle molded on.
Sorry I meant to say the moulded handle on my K7 Red rather than the pallet on the TCs (I am pretty sure...). The white hard plastic threw me off... lol
 

tennis347

Professional
Got mine in Feb of 2019 and its RA was in line with advertised specs... A friend got one July of 2018 and his was softer, same as haqq and others.. has to be somewhere in middle I'm guessing.. Paul knows about this.
I bought a pair of K7 Red frames in early April. They definitely play with a RA strung in the low 60's. They also were identical on the weight and balance. Angell QC is one of the best!
 

emhtennis

Semi-Pro
Just played some fantastic tennis with 17g Head Lynx Tour in my TC97 18x20. Strung 2 piece at 48lbs. Not on my radar at all, but couldn't pass up the TW blowout sale of $4 a set.

Lynx Tour is a hexagonal poly and the package says it is made for control and spin (as opposed to power and comfort). Well, it still felt really comfortable and true to marketing I felt extremely dialed in.

I'm going thru my Tier 1 promo package playtest. Firewire boost feels like it gives me more spin and more comfort, but less power and less control. Havent put Black Knight in yet. Unless BK blows me away I might be a Lynx Tour guy. The champagne color of the string also looks great in the Black/Copper racket.

Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
I can totally relate about coming back to Angells. I have all these flings and then find myself going back to my Angells (only to try something else - racquetholic curse, I know). I think V7 Blades are pretty amazing by the way and matching service was a great idea considering Wilson QC. Did you go with 18x20 or 16x19?

And my friend, I hear ya! I think both TC100 with 8 main or a TC98 with both patterns would be such a welcome addition in my humble opinion.
Ironically I went for both the 18x20 qnd the 16x19 V7 Blade. Really love both. But I would go back to Angell as soon as a TC98 18x20 or 16x19 with 4 mains in the throat and custom weight/balance Option comes out.
 
Just played some fantastic tennis with 17g Head Lynx Tour in my TC97 18x20. Strung 2 piece at 48lbs. Not on my radar at all, but couldn't pass up the TW blowout sale of $4 a set.

Lynx Tour is a hexagonal poly and the package says it is made for control and spin (as opposed to power and comfort). Well, it still felt really comfortable and true to marketing I felt extremely dialed in.

I'm going thru my Tier 1 promo package playtest. Firewire boost feels like it gives me more spin and more comfort, but less power and less control. Havent put Black Knight in yet. Unless BK blows me away I might be a Lynx Tour guy. The champagne color of the string also looks great in the Black/Copper racket.

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That’s good to hear, I bought a reel BK 17g when they sent me a 50%off code. Played with it twice so far and love the control. I am able to swing faster with more confidence and the low powered string keeps the ball in. I was playing with hyperg at 45 lbs and tried BK at 50 lbs. I need to try hyperg at 50lbs to have a good comparison between the two
 

Faris

Professional
I now have that exact same K7 Red haqq got from you btw.

Quick sidenote:How was your meetup with him last month? Did you teach him a lesson he will never forget with those recently acquired S&V skills using the TC95 you were telling me about? ;)
Very cool, that racquet has been to more places than I have in the last few months lol..

Yeah, he's on a different level altogether :X3: Didn't even take a game off him (and he had surgery last year on his knee)...I did look fantastic wearing my new Nike GP Turbos though.. that accounts for something right? :cool:
 

Faris

Professional
I bought a pair of K7 Red frames in early April. They definitely play with a RA strung in the low 60's. They also were identical on the weight and balance. Angell QC is one of the best!
Yep, love Angell because their QC is second to none IMO. Hoping someone here can chime in who purchased their Red before Feb of 2019. I know after that they were on dot on RA spec of low sixties strung..
 

Faris

Professional
now reading this - it reminded me of my K7 Red grip. I got mine pre-loved, so don’t know which batch it is. Got it around summer time 2018 I think. After a few sessions I felt the L3 grip with my usual 0.70mm OG felt bigger, so I was going to replace the Angell grip with a thinner replacement grip. When I removed the Angell base grip, I noticed a white plastic piece wrapped around the pallet. It is definitely Hard plastic, not the soft plastic similar to the heat sleeve. Cut out the hard white plastic, replaced the Angell base grip and added my usual 0.70mm OG, it felt the same as the TC100 with the same base grip and the 0.70mm..... weird... lol
Damn, should have tried taking my grip off to see..that is pretty interesting.. wonder why they did that white plastic thing on handle? Couldn't possibly be to adjust to advertised specs, that would be odd..
 

PigPen

Semi-Pro
Yep, love Angell because their QC is second to none IMO. Hoping someone here can chime in who purchased their Red before Feb of 2019. I know after that they were on dot on RA spec of low sixties strung..
Received mine in early 2018. The frame is very soft.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Damn, should have tried taking my grip off to see..that is pretty interesting.. wonder why they did that white plastic thing on handle? Couldn't possibly be to adjust to advertised specs, that would be odd..
I took the base grip off on mine because the l4 just felt too large. Didnt have white plastic around the handle. I sold my red and am now contemplating getting one in L3. But I a am happy camper with my blade V7s :)
 

sanister

Semi-Pro
Damn, should have tried taking my grip off to see..that is pretty interesting.. wonder why they did that white plastic thing on handle? Couldn't possibly be to adjust to advertised specs, that would be odd..
Nothing of the sort on ones I have.The molded grip just runs bigger on them IME
 

LeeCMB

New User
Hey guys, can anyone compare the K7 Lime with the TC97 V3? 18x20. I have read some older posts on this but it would be great to have some fresh input.

I currently have the Lime, and I really like it. But I've heard some great stuff about the TC97 and would love to hear opinions?

Thanks guys.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Hey guys, can anyone compare the K7 Lime with the TC97 V3? 18x20. I have read some older posts on this but it would be great to have some fresh input.

I currently have the Lime, and I really like it. But I've heard some great stuff about the TC97 and would love to hear opinions?

Thanks guys.
The biggest advantage of the lime imho is the lower swingweight. Its more manouverable than the TC97. The V3 TC97 has a lower swingweight than the V2 and I only tried the V2. But my V2 TC97 18x20’s had a swingweight of around 340 and were too cumbersome. Lime feels a little softer
 
Anyone has experience of playing with TC95 63 RA 16x19 with high swing weights like between 305-310 unstrung? Will that be too much to handle? Just trying to understand if it feels like a club and too cumbersome or manageable. I can handle RF97 swing weight and its in the range of 335-340 strung i guess
 
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Jouke

Semi-Pro
Anyone has experience of playing with TC95 63 RA 16x19 with high swing weights like between 305-310 unstrung? Will that be too much to handle? Just trying to understand if it feels like a club and too cumbersome or manageable. I can handle RF97 swing weight and its in the range of 335-340 strung i guess
My advise would be to take a normal swingweight angell and add lead to it if you feel like you need a higher swingweight. you can always up the swingweight by adding leading. Reducing the swingweight of an unleaded racket sucks. (Cutting grommets or sanding down paint)

Go to a pro store to have your RF97 put on a swingweight machine. With the Wilson QC your Rf97 could be 320 swingweight or 350 swingweight.
 

ed70

Professional
Just played some fantastic tennis with 17g Head Lynx Tour in my TC97 18x20. Strung 2 piece at 48lbs. Not on my radar at all, but couldn't pass up the TW blowout sale of $4 a set.

Lynx Tour is a hexagonal poly and the package says it is made for control and spin (as opposed to power and comfort). Well, it still felt really comfortable and true to marketing I felt extremely dialed in.

I'm going thru my Tier 1 promo package playtest. Firewire boost feels like it gives me more spin and more comfort, but less power and less control. Havent put Black Knight in yet. Unless BK blows me away I might be a Lynx Tour guy. The champagne color of the string also looks great in the Black/Copper racket.

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using Head lynx edge In one of my tc97’s strung it at 50 very impressive, especially spin serves... although I’ve a little discomfort in forearm That’s a bit odd. Might try lower tension. They only do 17g but seems thicker than 17g BK.
 

ed70

Professional
My advise would be to take a normal swingweight angell and add lead to it if you feel like you need a higher swingweight. you can always up the swingweight by adding leading. Reducing the swingweight of an unleaded racket sucks. (Cutting grommets or sanding down paint)

Go to a pro store to have your RF97 put on a swingweight machine. With the Wilson QC your Rf97 could be 320 swingweight or 350 swingweight.
Worth buying the Octane paint for extra SW (3-5pts) probably take TC95 to 330SW & save his shoulder & arm too. 330’s more than enough unless your in the Worlds Top 100.
 

BPlain

New User
Fellow K7 Red users: What are you stringing with and at what tension(s)? I'm enjoying every stroke with the exception of my topspin forehand. Everything is either really short or just long.

I started with HALO Hybrid K7 Red at 50lbs but just broke them today. I'm now trying my previous go-to – Volkl Cyclone Tour 18 (1.20) – at 50lbs and hoping that will do the trick. I've had elbow issues in the past and Cyclone Tour is one of the softest polys with the most spin potential I could find but more than anything, I need my forehand! Any help you would be appreciated.

PS: Anyone know if Paul shares his string specs? I usually use the Tennis Warehouse String University tool to research. Thanks!
 

Caol-ila

Rookie
Received mine in early 2018. The frame is very soft.
Me too, it was too soft. I sold it, then I purchased an used one one year later, and it was OK. Now it is my favorite reacquet.

As for Red and Lime power, I understand that customization changes their behaviour, even if I worked similarly on both, adding a leather grip and taking the balance at 32 for both. Anyway a difference in weight remained - 10 grams - maybe that explains my perceived difference in power. Now I have changed something taking away the leather grip from the Lime. Still I feel the Lime as more powerful, but they have different strings, Gosen AK PRO CX 16 for the Red, 17 for the Lime. 21/20 kgs, 4 knots.
The Red launch angle is higher than the Lime one, maybe part of the energy goes into that, who knows.
I admit this is not very scientific.
 

PigPen

Semi-Pro
Me too, it was too soft. I sold it, then I purchased an used one one year later, and it was OK. Now it is my favorite reacquet.

As for Red and Lime power, I understand that customization changes their behaviour, even if I worked similarly on both, adding a leather grip and taking the balance at 32 for both. Anyway a difference in weight remained - 10 grams - maybe that explains my perceived difference in power. Now I have changed something taking away the leather grip from the Lime. Still I feel the Lime as more powerful, but they have different strings, Gosen AK PRO CX 16 for the Red, 17 for the Lime. 21/20 kgs, 4 knots.
The Red launch angle is higher than the Lime one, maybe part of the energy goes into that, who knows.
I admit this is not very scientific.
What was the difference in stiffness between the old and new K7 Red? Were there any other differences (i.e. weight, swingweight, feel, etc)?
 

PigPen

Semi-Pro
Me too, it was too soft. I sold it, then I purchased an used one one year later, and it was OK. Now it is my favorite reacquet.

As for Red and Lime power, I understand that customization changes their behaviour, even if I worked similarly on both, adding a leather grip and taking the balance at 32 for both. Anyway a difference in weight remained - 10 grams - maybe that explains my perceived difference in power. Now I have changed something taking away the leather grip from the Lime. Still I feel the Lime as more powerful, but they have different strings, Gosen AK PRO CX 16 for the Red, 17 for the Lime. 21/20 kgs, 4 knots.
The Red launch angle is higher than the Lime one, maybe part of the energy goes into that, who knows.
I admit this is not very scientific.
I have arm issues as well and am liking Wilson Control mains and Creme crosses. I find that the frame plays much better with weight added. I tend to hit the ball high on the frame, so I need lead on the upper part of the hoop.
 
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