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esm

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Missed that one. I got two Angells TC95 on sale a few month ago, so there are some sales around, we just need to alert one another. I could use some stuff too.
Yeah. There were some Customs and ALS sales previously, but not accessories and strings. I think I have enough Angell racquets for now. :-D
maybe Christmas or new year sales. Lol
 

emhtennis

Semi-Pro
Sale or not I'll probably order grommets around New Year's. How often does everyone here replace them? I've actually never done it before on previously owned rackets, but because Angell grommets are softer/scuff easier I'm thinking twice a year?

Plus new grommets feel like detailing your car. It's like getting a brand new racket without actually getting a brand new racket :)
 

esm

Hall of Fame
Sale or not I'll probably order grommets around New Year's. How often does everyone here replace them? I've actually never done it before on previously owned rackets, but because Angell grommets are softer/scuff easier I'm thinking twice a year?

Plus new grommets feel like detailing your car. It's like getting a brand new racket without actually getting a brand new racket :)
depends - the cool thing about Angell is that you have many colour combinations from their grommets. more so with their V2 when they also offered the frame wrap at the 3 & 9 locations... 8-B it is fun to be able to change the grommet to match the string/OG... lol (geek alert!)

some people experience the cut grommet with certain shaped polys, but as i pretty much only use multi and syn gut, i have never experience any cut grommets on my TC100/TC95/TC97 and the K7 Red....
 

emhtennis

Semi-Pro
depends - the cool thing about Angell is that you have many colour combinations from their grommets. more so with their V2 when they also offered the frame wrap at the 3 & 9 locations... 8-B it is fun to be able to change the grommet to match the string/OG... lol (geek alert!)

some people experience the cut grommet with certain shaped polys, but as i pretty much only use multi and syn gut, i have never experience any cut grommets on my TC100/TC95/TC97 and the K7 Red....
I play with 18g Black Knight and none of my grommets have cut, but the tie off holes look a little worse for wear. I'm more worried about not noticing that the bumper guard has worn through and scrapes are now going against the frame instead of the grommet plastic.

I've thought about getting some colors, but I also like the black-out look I have from the black racket, black grommet, black string. Makes me feel like Batman, lol.
 

Sardines

Professional
Ah yes! Brexit! Haven't they come up with a deal yet?!? You'd think with COVID, negotiating an extension would be wiser than forcing it in these times.
I wonder what the customer base is for Angell? Is the UK his biggest customer base?
No difference to the rest of the world I suppose, except maybe in shipping fees and currency fluctuations.
I think we need to pay taxes if you import from UK to EU?
 

emhtennis

Semi-Pro
Yeah, I have to be real "strategic" when I buy stuff. Try and lump as much stuff as possible inside of one $50 shipping fee. But I don't complain that it gets to me in 2 days :)
 

CosmosMpower

Hall of Fame
Any TC95/97 18x20 users try the Blade 18x20 V7? Would not mind something that's a little lighter with good plow through like the blade. Curious how it compares.
 

jangotango

Semi-Pro
The TC
Any TC95/97 18x20 users try the Blade 18x20 V7? Would not mind something that's a little lighter with good plow through like the blade. Curious how it compares.
I have a TC95 70RA 18x20, 290g 4hl unstrung, and hit with a blade v7 on several occasions. My TC95 swings much faster, and stability is on par. Blade wins in feel though, the TC95 70RA is definitely stiffer. TC95 wins out on power, Blade on spin. I felt more dialed in with the TC95 because I'm a sucker for 95, and also I hit with it more often.
 

CosmosMpower

Hall of Fame
The TC

I have a TC95 70RA 18x20, 290g 4hl unstrung, and hit with a blade v7 on several occasions. My TC95 swings much faster, and stability is on par. Blade wins in feel though, the TC95 70RA is definitely stiffer. TC95 wins out on power, Blade on spin. I felt more dialed in with the TC95 because I'm a sucker for 95, and also I hit with it more often.
Thanks for the feedback. That is concerning if a 4 HL unstrung TC95 swings faster than the Blade, however your 290 spec is very light so that probably has a lot to do with it.
I'm coming from 320-330 unstrung 9-10 pts unstrung TC95 and TC97 18x20's. I went ahead and ordered a Blade V7, so I'll report back.
 

emhtennis

Semi-Pro
The other really big thing is balance. Once it's strung the blade is very close to being even-balanced, much like a radical. Depending on how you like your specs on an Angell, you would have to add a fair bit of weight to a blade to get it equivilant.
 
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Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Dear Angell friends, I have a problem with gut/poly string setup on my Angell's TC95, please have a look at this thread.


Cheers, H
So what is your problem... you can't find the right tension combo?... Or... You can't find the right gauge combo?... or both? This is for the TC95 18x20 63RA... right?

What have you tried and why do you feel it hasn't worked? People made suggestions in the other thread, but I'm not sure which you tried and why they didn't work.
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
Okay, that’s good to hear. I looked at the pics some more, and it looks pretty slim. I was worried it was going to look like a smaller rf97 which looks way too thick and boxy for me.
The TC95 has a 20mm tapered beam, the RF97 has a constant 21.5mm beam. So it's noticeably thinner.
 

esm

Hall of Fame
Okay, that’s good to hear. I looked at the pics some more, and it looks pretty slim. I was worried it was going to look like a smaller rf97 which looks way too thick and boxy for me.
In addition to the above, the TC95 has the D beam, so it doesn’t feel as boxy/flat/wide.
I am sure Paul can match to your VC95 spec, if you ask him nicely.. lol:-D
 

Sardines

Professional
Okay, that’s good to hear. I looked at the pics some more, and it looks pretty slim. I was worried it was going to look like a smaller rf97 which looks way too thick and boxy for me.
Also be careful about the string patterns. The VC.95 16x20 is sorta in between the 16x19 and 18x20 of the TC95. The 16x19 will launch more, give a tad more power and spin if you get the 70RA, and a little less power with the 63RA. If you want a bit of swing weight without the mass of going to 350g, consider the extended versions. The sweet spot won't play like the VC or SV 95, partially due to the isometric shape and string bed.
 

F5awp

New User
In addition to the above, the TC95 has the D beam, so it doesn’t feel as boxy/flat/wide.
I am sure Paul can match to your VC95 spec, if you ask him nicely.. lol:-D
That’s exactly what I did with the FB chat! Not sure if that was Paul or not
 

F5awp

New User
Also be careful about the string patterns. The VC.95 16x20 is sorta in between the 16x19 and 18x20 of the TC95. The 16x19 will launch more, give a tad more power and spin if you get the 70RA, and a little less power with the 63RA. If you want a bit of swing weight without the mass of going to 350g, consider the extended versions. The sweet spot won't play like the VC or SV 95, partially due to the isometric shape and string bed.
Yeah...I had an internal struggle about that the past 2 days..I actually ordered it as a 16x19 the night of, then chatted with them to switch it to 18x20 the next afternoon lol how will the sweet spot play like? Still enjoyable?
 

Sardines

Professional
Haha I can only apologize for suggesting this brand in the first place! The bottom line is how you like the frame practically, and unfortunately with a brand like Angell, there is no demo. So it's crucial to know your specs and be VERY familiar with your game. I think in about 2-3 years as I age further, I will go with 100 frame, and I'm sort of testing the TC100m because I like the feel and string pattern response. What I don't like is my inability to serve well consistently big with this frame. My present frame SV98+ gels so well with my serve variations, but the TC100 only works with faster heavy serves but not slow kickers, because I can't carve the ball as precisely or maybe it's how the stringbed reacts.
Yeah...I had an internal struggle about that the past 2 days..I actually ordered it as a 16x19 the night of, then chatted with them to switch it to 18x20 the next afternoon lol how will the sweet spot play like? Still enjoyable?
 

Sardines

Professional
My daughter was trying out the V-square 18g on her Yonex EZ100+, and she said I'd like the string more than her. So I tried V-Square 18g with PRCW 18g and really like it for the TC100. My daughter/stringer saw how stretchy it was and went up 3 lbs without telling me, and strung @ 55/50.
Played about 1.5hrs of some serious rallying, and initially it felt a little springy and all over the place, but 10 minutes into rallying, it settled and then very quick became very grippy and predictable. A few hours later, I played doubles with some 11+ with it and was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it. V-Square is elastic yet some how quite controlled for such a soft string. The grip it gives give the TC100 already grippy string bed even more extra bite, while taming the bounciness of the TC100 string bed.
Off the serve, it gave easy bite, but I had to swing out on 1st and 2nd serves to get the spin to work for me, otherwise the grip actually slows the serve down and sits up. ¾ kick serves were more consistently nearer the lines.
Off the ground, I could swing a bit out and the ball dip in. More memorable are the returns, where a heavy kick wide I usually short swing forearm wrist flick the backhand on the rise, I could feel the pocketing better, and the grip gave me a bit more spin to dip the return inside the service box more often. Off first serves returns, block returns were also felt well. I still have to soften my hands quite a bit more on volleys against heavy top spin passing shots below the net. The grip from the VS18g was really impressive. On reflex volleys where I just short block slice, it gripped and gave the balls a nice low bouncing slice that I'd normally have to punch slice down. The feel is better than the Volkl Cyclone/PRCW combo, and it's actually more comfortable, which isn't usually a problem for me but it has very decent pocketing feel for a poly. Weirdly, it weighs in 0.5g more than Cyclone 18L. I was half expecting the square profile to weigh even more.
The tension drop isn't very drastic for an elastic string. Apparently she did a manual pull on the string to eliminate coil memory, but otherwise, the 12 lbs stringmeter measured drop is less than I expected. I'd tried V-square on my SV98+ and didn't the string reaction at all. I think the ball fires off the SV98+ stringbed faster, and the bite has less chance to work. It is rather notched to about 20% on a few strings near the sweet spot, so after about 4 hrs of heavy hitting, I think it may last another 2-3 sets?? I think the rallying before grooved me very well, and I was pretty tired in the 3rd, but the confidence on the serve let us sneak it out in 7-5 in the 3rd. I don't know if it's the string that helped or I was just very grooved. It still felt rather controlled with bite and spin, all with good comfort, and I can still feel the edges when I run my fingers across the stringbed. I'll find out on Sat if there's a sophomore slump or tension change.

Try it with a round poly in the cross. I really liked Ghostwire. Notching didn't start as soon as soon as a full bed and great spin all the same.
 
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Poseidon

New User
Hello there, any comments on the TC101 and/or TC100? What can I expect as differences in play?
Currently playing with a TC97, which I love in feel, but would like a bit more forgiveness in my racket.
As references the Pure aero is too powerful. I would love playability like a dr98, but in that awesome Angel sensation when hitting the ball.
 

Madden

New User
Hello there, any comments on the TC101 and/or TC100? What can I expect as differences in play?
Currently playing with a TC97, which I love in feel, but would like a bit more forgiveness in my racket.
As references the Pure aero is too powerful. I would love playability like a dr98, but in that awesome Angel sensation when hitting the ball.
Different frame shape. tc101 has box shape, like tc97, and, in fact is less powerfull than tc100.
 

Poseidon

New User
I thought so, but when everyone says that TC100 is powerful, is it like a PureAero powerful, or a DR98 like a "controlled-power"?
 

Sardines

Professional
Hello there, any comments on the TC101 and/or TC100? What can I expect as differences in play?
Currently playing with a TC97, which I love in feel, but would like a bit more forgiveness in my racket.
As references the Pure aero is too powerful. I would love playability like a dr98, but in that awesome Angel sensation when hitting the ball.
Someone else had posted a separate thread about this comparison. I think for the sake of others, a new thread would serve every one the best?
 
I'm asking for a friend...
What's the power difference between the TC100 and the TC95 16×19?

He has been a long time user of the Pro Staff v.10 but was looking for some more power in a racket and bought (against my recommendations) a Clash 98 which he has become unhappy with. He really likes my TC100's (V.3, 320g, 310mm, 63RA) but I think the 95in will better suit his 1 handed backhand and all court game.
His main hesitation is the drop off in power, if there is any.
 

edelp

Semi-Pro
Hmm. I would say yes the power level of the TC95 16/19 RA63 is, maybe only slightly, lower as compared to the TC100 RA63. I have them both. I prefer the TC95 as it is a more controllable power (for me). So to put it for your friend like this. Of all the 95 head sizes I have played, somehow the TC95 16/19 offers the most power, plenty and more than enough. So the drop off is there I dare to think but it is not a lot.
 
Hmm. I would say yes the power level of the TC95 16/19 RA63 is, maybe only slightly, lower as compared to the TC100 RA63. I have them both. I prefer the TC95 as it is a more controllable power (for me). So to put it for your friend like this. Of all the 95 head sizes I have played, somehow the TC95 16/19 offers the most power, plenty and more than enough. So the drop off is there I dare to think but it is not a lot.
Thanks. Can you compare it to a Pro Staff 315g
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
I'm asking for a friend...
What's the power difference between the TC100 and the TC95 16×19?

He has been a long time user of the Pro Staff v.10 but was looking for some more power in a racket and bought (against my recommendations) a Clash 98 which he has become unhappy with. He really likes my TC100's (V.3, 320g, 310mm, 63RA) but I think the 95in will better suit his 1 handed backhand and all court game.
His main hesitation is the drop off in power, if there is any.
A few years I purchased 2 TC100s because I was blown away of the huge serve capabilities. However I missed the maneuverability and control of my TC95 18x20.
Lately I switched to TC95 16m that feels just right to me. More forgiving and a bigger sweetspot than the 18m. It also feels more versatile as I can vary my different strokes easier.
TC95 16m still has plenty of power. Maybe 80% of the power of the TC100 but you'll gain a lot more control and maneuverability. Especially if you're an all court player.
 

edelp

Semi-Pro
Thanks. Can you compare it to a Pro Staff 315g
I have to say that I only played the first prostaff 97 315 gr, when it was launched in red black years ago. I liked it (good frame) but it is too much weight for me. It gave less power than the TC95 in my eyes, was less comfortable also for me, lower launch angle (center strings in the prostaff are like a 18/20 for me jeje), but because of that not better control vs the TC95

In general, I know this is personal and kind of beauty contest but the TC95 16/19 is more versatile and powerful. I prefer it.
 
I have to say that I only played the first prostaff 97 315 gr, when it was launched in red black years ago. I liked it (good frame) but it is too much weight for me. It gave less power than the TC95 in my eyes, was less comfortable also for me, lower launch angle (center strings in the prostaff are like a 18/20 for me jeje), but because of that not better control vs the TC95

In general, I know this is personal and kind of beauty contest but the TC95 16/19 is more versatile and powerful. I prefer it.
I think that is the v.10(the one my friend uses). The prior ones where 95s, as far as I know.
 
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Mkiske

Semi-Pro
Hello there, any comments on the TC101 and/or TC100? What can I expect as differences in play?
Currently playing with a TC97, which I love in feel, but would like a bit more forgiveness in my racket.
As references the Pure aero is too powerful. I would love playability like a dr98, but in that awesome Angel sensation when hitting the ball.
I am 41 years old and I am more used to playing with a 100" racquet, it helps me in defense and it is not tiring after an hour of playing on clay. I have been playing with the Tc101, 300g, balance 325mm, swingweight 285 for 6 months. Exceptional, balanced in all aspects, forehand, one hand backhand, slice and excellent for touches.
But an opportunity came up, and I ended up buying a used pair of Tc 100 RA70, 300g, when the racquets arrive home I will start with the tests.
 

Poseidon

New User
I am 41 years old and I am more used to playing with a 100" racquet, it helps me in defense and it is not tiring after an hour of playing on clay. I have been playing with the Tc101, 300g, balance 325mm, swingweight 285 for 6 months. Exceptional, balanced in all aspects, forehand, one hand backhand, slice and excellent for touches.
But an opportunity came up, and I ended up buying a used pair of Tc 100 RA70, 300g, when the racquets arrive home I will start with the tests.
I would really love the comparison, as I am between these frames too, albeit, I'd get them in 320g, 305mm balance versions.
How did you get the 285sw one? I thought all angel frames were around 300-305sw.
 

Mkiske

Semi-Pro
The first batch of Tc101 was launched with the 285 sw. I bought the pair, and I am looking at the third Tc101 of that first batch, in case the owner wants to sell someday.
 

bleno567

Semi-Pro
A few years I purchased 2 TC100s because I was blown away of the huge serve capabilities. However I missed the maneuverability and control of my TC95 18x20.
Lately I switched to TC95 16m that feels just right to me. More forgiving and a bigger sweetspot than the 18m. It also feels more versatile as I can vary my different strokes easier.
TC95 16m still has plenty of power. Maybe 80% of the power of the TC100 but you'll gain a lot more control and maneuverability. Especially if you're an all court player.
You don't find the 16m version's pattern to be too open? It has the same super high launch angle as the TC100, yes?
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
You don't find the 16m version's pattern to be too open? It has the same super high launch angle as the TC100, yes?
Actually I don't really have problems with the open pattern as I am still able to hit low flat strokes as easily as with my TC95 18m. I also think it has more to do with your technique. I use to hit my strokes with a little topspin or slice in order to control my strokes.
However I use thicker strings with the TC95 16m and have it strung with a little higher tension.
 

edelp

Semi-Pro
Actually I don't really have problems with the open pattern as I am still able to hit low flat strokes as easily as with my TC95 18m. I also think it has more to do with your technique. I use to hit my strokes with a little topspin or slice in order to control my strokes.
However I use thicker strings with the TC95 16m and have it strung with a little higher tension.
Hi, @bleno567 I agree totally with @Gee and do the same. In the Angell tc95 I tend to use higher gauges or if thin very low powered and highish tension, or higher than what I do normally.
 
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ChrisG

Semi-Pro
Tc95 16x19 is perfect in terms of power for solid players, tc100 is certainly more suited for less seasoned players.
I’m having a second honeymoon with mine, removed some lead in the head and relocated it in the buttcap to make it more manœuvrable.
I’ve been playing with IPrestige MP and UT lately, but they are too demanding on clay (my main surface). Tc95 63ra is really special, couldn’t recommend tin enough. It also plays bigger than 95 sq
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
You don't find the 16m version's pattern to be too open? It has the same super high launch angle as the TC100, yes?
The TC95 16x19 has a high launch angle, but it's not as extreme as the TC100. I found it almost impossible to flatten out a shot with the TC100, I always have to put a lot of shape on them, or the ball sails long. No such issue on the TC95. I can go big / flat, but access to spin is easy if this is what I am going for.
 

Sardines

Professional
The TC95 16x19 has a high launch angle, but it's not as extreme as the TC100. I found it almost impossible to flatten out a shot with the TC100, I always have to put a lot of shape on them, or the ball sails long. No such issue on the TC95. I can go big / flat, but access to spin is easy if this is what I am going for.
The reason why flatter hitters like "control" frames like 95s is because many coaches were stuck in the 70s and 80s, and didn't really teach heavier topspin strokes, even with semi-western grips and on clay for many. But the string pattern is the reason for the launch angle difference. Why'd you pick an obviously larger string pattern with the TC100 and not the 18x20, which would mimic the 95 a little better?
 

Happi

Semi-Pro
The reason why flatter hitters like "control" frames like 95s is because many coaches were stuck in the 70s and 80s, and didn't really teach heavier topspin strokes, even with semi-western grips and on clay for many. But the string pattern is the reason for the launch angle difference. Why'd you pick an obviously larger string pattern with the TC100 and not the 18x20, which would mimic the 95 a little better?
TC100 does not come in a 18x20 pattern, many here would love that option.
 
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