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StanAO14

Semi-Pro
What happens when i shorten my Angell TC99 27.25 extended to 27 inch? The specs unstrung are: 325 grams 10 pts headlight ans swingweight of 305.

Though I really like how I serve with my TC99 it feels a little bit too bulky and explosive at the net. So I think I want it make it bit more maneuverable.

FYI I'm coming from a Prince Phantom 100X 18x20 and Head Prestige Pro that are less powerful and have a little thinner beam as well.

However I'm still not sure if I dare to cut it off to standard length as I read different stories here about shortening frames.

Will it still perform well or should I still keep playing with the extended TC99 (as I only played about 10 matches so far)?
Fwiw my angell tc99 is 297 SW unstrung (standard length, 320/305)
 
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Gee

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Fwiw my angell tc99 is 297 SW unstrung (standard length, 320/305)
Sounds like a nice swingweight to me. I learned that a .25 inch will add about 8 sw points so that pretty much corresponds with your specs.

BTW how are your experiences with the TC99?
 

topspn

G.O.A.T.
What happens when I shorten my Angell TC99 27.25 extended to 27 inch? The specs unstrung are: 325 grams 10 pts headlight ans swingweight of 305.

Though I really like how I serve with my TC99 it feels a little bit too bulky and explosive at the net. So I think I want it make it bit more maneuverable.

FYI I'm coming from a Prince Phantom 100X 18x20 and Head Prestige Pro that are less powerful and have a little thinner beam as well.

However I'm still not sure if I dare to cut it off to standard length as I read different stories here about shortening frames.

Will it still perform well or should I still keep playing with the extended TC99 (as I only played about 10 matches so far)?

Before you do anything dramatic, why not add 3g or so under the butt cap. Maybe more HL will do it?
 

StanAO14

Semi-Pro
Sounds like a nice swingweight to me. I learned that a .25 inch will add about 8 sw points so that pretty much corresponds with your specs.

BTW how are your experiences with the TC99?
Like it very much. Like a more controlled tc100 as many of you mentioned. I like it more than the react. Need to dial in string tension (now durafluxx 1.18 23kg, slightly too boardy) and grip (indeed it runs a bit small). Probably will order another one, when im start to play competitive again. Thats not gonna happen soon though im afraid.
 
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Before you do anything dramatic, why not add 3g or so under the butt cap. Maybe more HL will do it?
Maybe not a bad idea but I rather want to go a bit lighter in static weight and sw.
Lately I saw so many (better) players during my tournaments crushing the ball with much lighter frames that made me think.
 

topspn

G.O.A.T.
Maybe not a bad idea but I rather want to go a bit lighter in static weight and sw.
Lately I saw so many (better) players during my tournaments crushing the ball with much lighter frames that made me think.

I understand, just saying more HL is super easy to try and reverse.
 
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I understand, just saying more HL is super easy to try and reverse.
With my previous Angells (TC95 18m and 16m) I used to add a few grams lead at 10 and 2 as it felt a bit too headlight to me (330 grams - 12 pts HL ca. 310 sw).
That's why I ordered last time my TC99 with a bit higher (10 pts HL) balance.
 

B96

New User
Can anyone help me out:
I’m looking to switch to angell rackets but I’m stuck between going with the TC97 or the TC99, what do both frames play similar to and is there a big loss in power between the 97 and 99
I’m currently playing with a Dunlop fx500 tour but I’ve played with a radical pro for around 5 years before that, I found the radical too controlled unless the weight and swingweight were bumped up to 340 and the Dunlop is a little overpowered
 

moii

New User
I have demoed the fx500 before buying the TC99 recently. I think the TC99 is equally as powerfull but has a lower launch angle and is much more controlled. I found the fx500 to be a bit erratic..
The TC97 would be more simillar to a radical pro. I dont know if thats the beste comparison though, I have only ever hit a couple of shots with the radical so cant say much about it. To me the TC97 is like what I would imagine a pro stock blade to feel like or a it could be compared to a more whippy Pro staff 97.
The Angell string patterns are a big factor in how they play. The 16/19 is very open, lots of spin and high launch and give some extra power. The 18/20 is the total opposite its one of the tightest patterns out there, lots of control but you lose out on spin and power.

I would say if you enjoy the launch angle of your fx500 the TC97 16/19 would be similar in that regard. A bit more predictable and control and probably a smidge less free power.
The TC97 18/20 is a control frame through and through and much closer to the radical pro. Feel is very different and they are not that similar i guess, but just speaking in terms of control and power.
The TC99 is my personal choice, so there is a bias probably ;) but to me it is the best of both worlds. Lots of power like the fx500 but very good control.
 
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maksp

Semi-Pro
I have demoed the fx500 before buying the TC99 recently. I think the TC99 is equally as powerfull but has a lower launch angle and is much more controlled. I found the fx500 to be a bit erratic..
The TC97 would be more simillar to a radical pro. I dont know if thats the beste comparison though, I have only ever hit a couple of shots with the radical so cant say much about it. To me the TC97 is like what I would imagine a pro stock blade to feel like or a it could be compared to a more whippy Pro staff 97.
The Angell string patterns are a big factor in how they play. The 16/19 is very open, lots of spin and high launch and give some extra power. The 18/20 is the total opposite its one of the tightest patterns out there, lots of control but you lose out on spin and power.

I would say if you enjoy the launch angle of your fx500 the TC97 16/19 would be similar in that regard. A bit more predictable and control and probably a smidge less free power.
The TC97 18/20 is a control frame through and through and much closer to the radical pro. Feel is very different and they are not that similar i guess, but just speaking in terms of control and power.
The TC99 is my personal choice, so there is a bias probably ;) but to me it is the best of both worlds. Lots of power like the fx500 but very good control.
Tc99 string pattern is a closed 18 mains like the 18x20's?
 

moii

New User
no the TC99 is the same 18/19 pattern as the React 18/19.
TC99 has only 6 mains through the heart and not as tightly spaced as the 18 mains of the 18/20 patterns (8 mains through the heart and overall much closer)
 

B96

New User
I have demoed the fx500 before buying the TC99 recently. I think the TC99 is equally as powerfull but has a lower launch angle and is much more controlled. I found the fx500 to be a bit erratic..
The TC97 would be more simillar to a radical pro. I dont know if thats the beste comparison though, I have only ever hit a couple of shots with the radical so cant say much about it. To me the TC97 is like what I would imagine a pro stock blade to feel like or a it could be compared to a more whippy Pro staff 97.
The Angell string patterns are a big factor in how they play. The 16/19 is very open, lots of spin and high launch and give some extra power. The 18/20 is the total opposite its one of the tightest patterns out there, lots of control but you lose out on spin and power.

I would say if you enjoy the launch angle of your fx500 the TC97 16/19 would be similar in that regard. A bit more predictable and control and probably a smidge less free power.
The TC97 18/20 is a control frame through and through and much closer to the radical pro. Feel is very different and they are not that similar i guess, but just speaking in terms of control and power.
The TC99 is my personal choice, so there is a bias probably ;) but to me it is the best of both worlds. Lots of power like the fx500 but very good control.
That’s amazing thank you I’ve been on the fence for years, I cracked my head speed custom made about 5 years ago and everything has just felt almost right but so different at the same time!
The Dunlop is a fantastic racket but you hit the nail on the head with how erratic it is! I think the 99 is what I will go for, what strings do you recommend? I currently use lynx tour at 50lbs
 

maksp

Semi-Pro
no the TC99 is the same 18/19 pattern as the React 18/19.
TC99 has only 6 mains through the heart and not as tightly spaced as the 18 mains of the 18/20 patterns (8 mains through the heart and overall much closer)
Can you measure the beam thickness ? Many manufacturers are off with the thickness. Tnx
 

moii

New User
That’s amazing thank you I’ve been on the fence for years, I cracked my head speed custom made about 5 years ago and everything has just felt almost right but so different at the same time!
The Dunlop is a fantastic racket but you hit the nail on the head with how erratic it is! I think the 99 is what I will go for, what strings do you recommend? I currently use lynx tour at 50lbs
I think you cant go wrong with the tc99. If you want even more power the TC100 70RA is interesting. It has a high launch angle like the fx500 but more power and where the dunlop is a bit erratic the tc100 is very predictable. TC99 has lower launch, more control and a bit less power and smaller sweetspot than the tc100.
As for strings I think just pop in your poly of choice and go from there.. I find angell frames to be quite sensitive to strings because they dont have any dampening tech other than quality carbon and foam filling. so you feel small differences in strings and tension more in my opinion. But its fun that way. You can tinker with small adjustments and see what you like best.
 
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ChaseS.

New User
Super excited to join the club! Browsed the forum for awhile and pulled the trigger on the TC95 today. 16x19, 320g, 12HL. I appreciate all of your help with your posts and questions in this thread. Coming from the Prince 95 which I still love but definitely have always enjoyed that thinner beam feel and touch.
 

maksp

Semi-Pro
I think you cant go wrong with the tc99. If you want even more power the TC100 70RA is interesting. It has a high launch angle like the fx500 but more power and where the dunlop is a bit erratic the tc100 is very predictable. TC99 has lower launch, more control and a bit less power and smaller sweetspot than the tc100.
As for strings I think just pop in your poly of choice and go from there.. I find angell frames to be quite sensitive to strings because they dont have any dampening tech other than quality carbon and foam filling. so you feel small differences in strings and tension more in my opinion. But its fun that way. You can tinker with small adjustments and see what you like best.
So it's angell tc99 vs tecnifibre 305s for 98 -99 inch with 18mains race.... if anyone can compare the 2 that have tried both with same strings would be great
 

maksp

Semi-Pro
What's beam thickness of tc90 ? Emailed angell couple times and I'm tired of waiting months for reply to emails....it's 2025... I'm not a Facebook or Instagram user
 

ChaseS.

New User
I had emailed them from the States a few weeks back and never got a response. I was able to find my answer by digging in this thread thankfully and went ahead and ordered my racket. I think they are just using these 558pages as their FAQ and customer service lol.
 

alexmcnab

Rookie
It's thinner then tc95 n tc99? Some say all are 21 or 21.6mm.. everywhere I check I got different answer...angell CS is worse then other rackets companies QC
I don't understand the problem
On the website it says

TC90 20mm

TC95 20mm

TC99 21mm
 

maksp

Semi-Pro
I don't understand the problem
On the website it says

TC90 20mm

TC95 20mm

TC99 21mm
Some people have posted measurements that they took themselves that were different...reason I ask if anyone else themselves measured
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
Some people have posted measurements that they took themselves that were different...reason I ask if anyone else themselves measured

It's thinner then tc95 n tc99? Some say all are 21 or 21.6mm.. everywhere I check I got different answer...angell CS is worse then other rackets companies QC

Perhaps its difficult to meassure 1/2 mm if you dont have the right tools. I would trust Angell spec. as their QC are top notch.
 
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B96

New User
What’s the best bit of advice for static weight and balance? I’ve historically played with heavier frames customised up to around 335-340g unstrung with the balance around 10-12 points head light but I’ve seen a lot of posts where people say due to the foam filling they often feel heavier to swing compared to a normal frame, so should I go lighter to make it feel similar to my current frames or go for the spec I’m currently playing with
 

Tennisist

Professional
If you are still playing fine with those frames, then get the 330/305.
If you are struggling, then 320/305 is a very good combination.
 

mn_chilly

New User
I'd be leading up any frame to a 340+ SW regardless. The 90 is too stiff for my liking, so I'd probably go TC95 or React 96. I think both aesthetics are nice too with V5 and the react.
Did you ever try your TC 90 with Ashaway Monogut ZX Pro in the mains (or a full bed)? That stuff is so soft! (on impact)
 

10K0

New User
Is the swing weight/twist weight on the TC90 much higher than a Wilson PS90 6.1 BLX?

I have mainly played with the PS90 but it started to develop a small crack near the throat of the racket (has never been abused) so I bought a TC90.

Upon receiving it I did not like how it felt. It seemed a little too head heavy so I thought that was the only problem. I modified it to get close to what my PS90 had and it still feels relatively hard to whip. I do use an in between grip of eastern/semi western with a more old swing style. The PS90 feels lighter when swinging it through compared to the TC90 so that got me thinking.

The TC90 was a 330/310 base and I modified it to match the specs my PS90 had but went overweight (this might have to do with it feeling harder to swing maybe?)
I don't have access to a swing/twist weight machine nor do I have a Briffidi. I have yet to do the string pendulum test.

3/8 grip size
Strings for both: RPM Blast 17g @ 52lbs
TC90 Strung unmodified:
352g, ~ 9pts HL

TC90 Strung and modified:
364g, ~ 11-12pts HL

PS90 Strung and modified:
357g, ~ 11-12pts HL

What I did:
Wilson Leather Grip
Wilson Over Grip
Lead Tape near the buttcap (I forgot to write down how much I used but it was 2 strips going around the handle once)

My thoughts are, that I just remove the lead tape and that should solve the weight problem. But I'm not sure if that would offset the balance back towards 9-10pts HL.
What should I do here?
 

maksp

Semi-Pro
Is the swing weight/twist weight on the TC90 much higher than a Wilson PS90 6.1 BLX?

I have mainly played with the PS90 but it started to develop a small crack near the throat of the racket (has never been abused) so I bought a TC90.

Upon receiving it I did not like how it felt. It seemed a little too head heavy so I thought that was the only problem. I modified it to get close to what my PS90 had and it still feels relatively hard to whip. I do use an in between grip of eastern/semi western with a more old swing style. The PS90 feels lighter when swinging it through compared to the TC90 so that got me thinking.

The TC90 was a 330/310 base and I modified it to match the specs my PS90 had but went overweight (this might have to do with it feeling harder to swing maybe?)
I don't have access to a swing/twist weight machine nor do I have a Briffidi. I have yet to do the string pendulum test.

3/8 grip size
Strings for both: RPM Blast 17g @ 52lbs
TC90 Strung unmodified:
352g, ~ 9pts HL

TC90 Strung and modified:
364g, ~ 11-12pts HL

PS90 Strung and modified:
357g, ~ 11-12pts HL

What I did:
Wilson Leather Grip
Wilson Over Grip
Lead Tape near the buttcap (I forgot to write down how much I used but it was 2 strips going around the handle once)

My thoughts are, that I just remove the lead tape and that should solve the weight problem. But I'm not sure if that would offset the balance back towards 9-10pts HL.
What should I do here?
Sometimes if I put too much weigh near handle,it also gets hard to whip
 

ChaseS.

New User
Is the swing weight/twist weight on the TC90 much higher than a Wilson PS90 6.1 BLX?

I have mainly played with the PS90 but it started to develop a small crack near the throat of the racket (has never been abused) so I bought a TC90.

Upon receiving it I did not like how it felt. It seemed a little too head heavy so I thought that was the only problem. I modified it to get close to what my PS90 had and it still feels relatively hard to whip. I do use an in between grip of eastern/semi western with a more old swing style. The PS90 feels lighter when swinging it through compared to the TC90 so that got me thinking.

The TC90 was a 330/310 base and I modified it to match the specs my PS90 had but went overweight (this might have to do with it feeling harder to swing maybe?)
I don't have access to a swing/twist weight machine nor do I have a Briffidi. I have yet to do the string pendulum test.

3/8 grip size
Strings for both: RPM Blast 17g @ 52lbs
TC90 Strung unmodified:
352g, ~ 9pts HL

TC90 Strung and modified:
364g, ~ 11-12pts HL

PS90 Strung and modified:
357g, ~ 11-12pts HL

What I did:
Wilson Leather Grip
Wilson Over Grip
Lead Tape near the buttcap (I forgot to write down how much I used but it was 2 strips going around the handle once)

My thoughts are, that I just remove the lead tape and that should solve the weight problem. But I'm not sure if that would offset the balance back towards 9-10pts HL.
What should I do here?
Google is telling me that the PS90 BLX should have a slightly higher SW (327 strung) than your new TC90 (292 unstrung) assuming that strings add roughly 30pts. Maybe you got a higher end spec TC90 that's above advertised SW or maybe the new grip and lead is contributing like Maksp said up above.

The BLX also has a thinner beam (17.5) vs the TC90 (20) so maybe that's not getting thru the air quite as fast??
 

maksp

Semi-Pro
Google is telling me that the PS90 BLX should have a slightly higher SW (327 strung) than your new TC90 (292 unstrung) assuming that strings add roughly 30pts. Maybe you got a higher end spec TC90 that's above advertised SW or maybe the new grip and lead is contributing like Maksp said up above.

The BLX also has a thinner beam (17.5) vs the TC90 (20) so maybe that's not getting thru the air quite as fast??
Any other sub 20mm beam 90 inch racket ? High 60's Ra or 70s
 

10K0

New User
Google is telling me that the PS90 BLX should have a slightly higher SW (327 strung) than your new TC90 (292 unstrung) assuming that strings add roughly 30pts. Maybe you got a higher end spec TC90 that's above advertised SW or maybe the new grip and lead is contributing like Maksp said up above.

The BLX also has a thinner beam (17.5) vs the TC90 (20) so maybe that's not getting thru the air quite as fast??
Yea the beam was another possibility I considered. I don't hate the racket, it feels very nice but it is definitely more punishing that the PS90. My hitting partner says receiving feels heavier now which would make sense if the SW was relatively higher.

I can always get fleabay PS90s if it comes to it, but I consider age as a factor and that they could likely start cracking like mine did - which is why I opted to try the TC90.
I'm also a sucker for Wilson Rackets (another favorite is the PS97s that was the box beam variant with the matte black/orange PWS) and missed the PS85 rerun by TW.
I was out due to a back injury the last 2 years so I am just getting back into it.

I am hitting again tomorrow and Thursday(Clinic) and will see if it is just me being out of shape(unlikely as the PS90 feels as nimble as I remember) haha
 

ChaseS.

New User
Just received my TC95. Exactly 1 week from placing order I received my stick in FL. This thing is beautiful. Checked all my ordered specs and it was spot on. Order 320g/12HL and it was exactly 320/12. Also measured the beam and it checks out at 20mm all the way around. The color inside the hoop is a little different than the website pictures show but it's a very clean mixture of orange with hints of red. Couldn't be happier so far!
 

gfwp

Rookie
Just received my TC95. Exactly 1 week from placing order I received my stick in FL. This thing is beautiful. Checked all my ordered specs and it was spot on. Order 320g/12HL and it was exactly 320/12. Also measured the beam and it checks out at 20mm all the way around. The color inside the hoop is a little different than the website pictures show but it's a very clean mixture of orange with hints of red. Couldn't be happier so far!
Yeah I confirm. The same here with 2 TC 101, perfectly on spec.
 

mn_chilly

New User
Curious if anybody has been able to determine what the difference between the v4 and v5 versions of the TC racquets? New mold? Different layering? Different kind of foam?

Unfortunately, their marketing materials on the website don't offer much.
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
Curious if anybody has been able to determine what the difference between the v4 and v5 versions of the TC racquets? New mold? Different layering? Different kind of foam?

Unfortunately, their marketing materials on the website don't offer much.
Only difference is paintjob for the last 3-4 versions
 

ChaseS.

New User
Taken the TC95 out twice now to hit against the wall. One of the most interesting feeling rackets I've ever hit with. Very solid, very firm, very consistent, and very muted. The feel reminds me a lot of my Vcore pro 97D but firmer. Since I spec matched to my gamer (Prince 95 Tour), I strung up with same string (Hawk Touch 1.25) and same tension (51#) to keep variables down. The TC95 definitely appears to be string sensitive. I've used the hawk touch in a variety of frames for over a year now and it has become my favorite string by far. The TC95 is absolutely rejecting that string with firmness and lack of pocketing. That being said I am so intrigued by this frame! Lol.
 

topspn

G.O.A.T.
Taken the TC95 out twice now to hit against the wall. One of the most interesting feeling rackets I've ever hit with. Very solid, very firm, very consistent, and very muted. The feel reminds me a lot of my Vcore pro 97D but firmer. Since I spec matched to my gamer (Prince 95 Tour), I strung up with same string (Hawk Touch 1.25) and same tension (51#) to keep variables down. The TC95 definitely appears to be string sensitive. I've used the hawk touch in a variety of frames for over a year now and it has become my favorite string by far. The TC95 is absolutely rejecting that string with firmness and lack of pocketing. That being said I am so intrigued by this frame! Lol.

Too high tension for TC95. I think you’ll be happier at 48lbs
 

volleynets

Hall of Fame
I own TC97 in the V3 and the V4 paint jobs. I also have an octane V3 but it doesn't feel the same at all as the regular V3 so I don't use that one.

Has anyone bought a V5 in the same spec as their V4 and V3 and is it similar or different? And in what ways? Considering getting one new V5 to have in the rotation with my V4 and don't really hit with my V3s anymore as their feel is getting worse with lot of play.

But I loved the V3 paint job a lot more than the V4. Anyone who has the V5 can also comment on how it looks next to the V3 or V4 if you have them in hand?
 
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emhtennis

Hall of Fame
I own TC97 in the V3 and the V4 paint jobs. I also have an octane V3 but it doesn't feel the same at all as the regular V3 so I don't use that one.

Has anyone bought a V5 in the same spec as their V4 and V3 and is it similar or different? And in what ways? Considering getting one new V5 to have in the rotation with my V4 and don't really hit with my V3s anymore as their feel is getting worse with lot of play.

But I loved the V3 paint job a lot more than the V4. Anyone who has the V5 can also comment on how it looks next to the V3 or V4 if you have them in hand?
The octane paint was thicker and gave the frames up to an extra 5SW points, so your experience tracks.

I will likely be buying a matching v5 TC100 to the v4 I have, so will be able to report back in a few months.
 
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