The Official Angell Users Club

topspn

Hall of Fame
Thank you.
I know that, but my elbow doesn't even like my PS90 strung with Gut/Poly, whereas the PS97S is fine with the same setup.
Strange though.

Still don't know if 63 or 70...
That's why I'm intrigued by the 66 (strung 62/63) of the 97.
97 is much lower about 60RA. I didn’t like the extra flex in the head.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Im a baseliner with an extreme Sw grip who will come to net, and a 2 handed bh. Would you suggest the TC95 or the TC100?
The feel is very close between the two. TC100 especially with your grip will get massive spin and more pop. TC95 will give you a touch more control and truly good precision so you have to decide what would mean the most for you.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Thanks for that. I decided to order the TC95 to start. I am well aware of the heritage of the Dunlop 200, and to have that in an easier to use form is too enticing. I also really benefit from the precision I get from the Tec 315 ltd. It sounds like the TC95 is probably a bit bigger than a 95 so I should be good to go.

The spec I went with are 320 weight and 320 balance. I don't want to have to mod the frame, just string up and play. I love the balance a little more towards the tip. RA of 63,B grip as I really am familiar with the Head grip shape from my Tec 315 and Extremes and of course the 16x19 patten.

If this thing plays a like an older Dunlop 200, just easier power and a bigger sweetspot, I will be pretty excited. The Dunlop 200 weighted in at around 350 with a 335 SW if I remember correctly. It felt amazing, but the 18x20 pattern and super small sweetspot made it rather tough to use even though the control was amazing.

For now, when I'm tired or just playing badly and need a 100, I will pull out my Extreme Pros.
 

The_Racketeer

Professional
If this is true, I almost feel like I'd pick the 95 over the 100.
I did. When I first looked into Angell I was planning on getting the TC100. I'd been using 100sq" frames with success and liked the combination of forgiveness and playability. I was hesitant to go back to a 95sq" having ditched my iRadical without a 2nd glance. I had nothing to be afraid of. The foam filled hoop of the TC95 really spreads the sweetspot out and, unless you frame it, you're going to be happy with its forgiveness. Ample power and spin with the best control I've ever gotten out of a 16x19.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Awesome. Glad I went with the 95. It sounds great. The tec 315 is a 97 and my serve is substantially better with it. I imagine the tc95 will give similar results.
 

Surion

Hall of Fame
I guess, I'll go with the TC95, 16/19 63 RA 320 g 315 mm 27.25 in then.

Does anybody know if it is possible to get the racket strung with gut/poly?
Or doesn't Paul do stringing?
 

chippy17

Semi-Pro
I guess, I'll go with the TC95, 16/19 63 RA 320 g 315 mm 27.25 in then.

Does anybody know if it is possible to get the racket strung with gut/poly?
Or doesn't Paul do stringing?
afaik he does not string at the moment but may do in the future...
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Awesome. Glad I went with the 95. It sounds great. The tec 315 is a 97 and my serve is substantially better with it. I imagine the tc95 will give similar results.
I am serving great with the TC95. Plenty of power, versatile and precise. It has complimented all my variety of serves. I am confident as heck serving with it.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
I am about to take delivery of a 97, has anyone done a list of the best strings to suit this amazing frame?!
I have tried 4 different strings on it. Cyclone, hyper g, RS Lyon, YTEX quadro twist. Cyclone felt mushy @48lbs. Hyper G a bit soft @50 and with the head flex in the TC97 was getting more trampoline effect. RS Lyon plays more crisp with better control @50. YTEX gives the head a more measured dwell time and providing good control and excellent spin. I liked RS Lyon and Quadro twist the most in that frame
 

Ft.S

Semi-Pro
I have been using my TC97s for the last couple of months, playing 3 times a week on avg, I still cannot find some little thing that make me say "I wish it was..." I am such a satisfied customer, so I ordered my 3rd and probably will order a 4th in couple of months. The racquests are also still looking like new, not beaten up, although they actually are. This has been probably my best racquet purchase ever.

I also decided to stick with VS Touch 16 all around, just love these strings especially the first 7 hours of play, they break around 8-9 hrs, but I am not giving it up :)
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I think you are going to be in for a shock when it comes to serving.
Can't wait. I wish I could send you a spare tec 315 but I don't have one :( . I think you would like it too. I have a feeling the service is similar, but Ill do a direct comparison since the specs are going to be the same

I am serving great with the TC95. Plenty of power, versatile and precise. It has complimented all my variety of serves. I am confident as heck serving with it.
Yeah this is why I went with the 95. Your posts helped me out because I was leaning towards the 100. It was just too hard to resist a 95 made by the guy who made the old school Dunlop 200s.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Just wanted to clarify any stringing tips for the 95. I read there are double blocked holes on the crosses. I am thinking I will just use scrap strings as a loop to move one of the strings out of the way.

I already know Ill be stringing this frame at 48/51 with Cyclone/Syn gut. I love when the tension drops to ~42/48 on a lower powered frame. It is heavenly.
 

JohnBPittsburgh

Hall of Fame
@djNEiGht I don't know if this will help you out at all, but I figured it was an interesting discovery :) I was just testing something, because I read your C- buttcap didn't fit the B pallets quite right without modding it a little. If you have Angell B palllets, Prince buttcaps and Wilson buttcaps fit perfectly on them. Or you could just order the correct buttcap from Paul :) but in the meantime, if you have an extra Prince or Wilson buttcap in the correct grip size, it will work.

PP. The double blocked hole is the only thing that is notable, otherwise, it's a straightforward easy stringjob. Interested to hear your comparison between the 95 and the Tecs. They are both great frames, with distinctive feels.
 

teekaywhy

Professional
I have been using my TC97s for the last couple of months, playing 3 times a week on avg, I still cannot find some little thing that make me say "I wish it was..." I am such a satisfied customer, so I ordered my 3rd and probably will order a 4th in couple of months. The racquests are also still looking like new, not beaten up, although they actually are. This has been probably my best racquet purchase ever.

I also decided to stick with VS Touch 16 all around, just love these strings especially the first 7 hours of play, they break around 8-9 hrs, but I am not giving it up :)
100% agree with your thoughts. I found similar satisfaction with my current golf bag but that was also after many years of searching and a lot of money.
BUT, here's the ironic part. Now that I know I can get racquets that are EXACTLY what I want, I am having a hard time dealing with the fact that two of my TC97s are different in weight and balance due to changing out pallets. I talking like 3 grams and maybe a point of two balance, but it's actually bothering me to the point I just bought another TC97 (my 4th) so I can get the perfect setup again.
It's a sickness.
 

mxblink

Rookie
Just wanted to clarify any stringing tips for the 95. I read there are double blocked holes on the crosses. I am thinking I will just use scrap strings as a loop to move one of the strings out of the way.
The double-blocked holes sound like a pain, but they really haven't been an issue for me. At most, I'll re-cut the string at an angle and push it through bit-by-bit with needle-nose pliers. Takes like 10 seconds. Though you could certainly use the scrap string too.

100% agree with your thoughts. I found similar satisfaction with my current golf bag but that was also after many years of searching and a lot of money.
BUT, here's the ironic part. Now that I know I can get racquets that are EXACTLY what I want, I am having a hard time dealing with the fact that two of my TC97s are different in weight and balance due to changing out pallets. I talking like 3 grams and maybe a point of two balance, but it's actually bothering me to the point I just bought another TC97 (my 4th) so I can get the perfect setup again.
It's a sickness.
This is end-stage racquetholism. You've found your perfect racquet, so now you have to make sure they're ALL matched PERFECTLY to exactly the spec you want.

One of my Angells is 2g and 1 SW point off of my others. Was killing me. Then I played with it and realized I couldn't tell the difference, so we're peachy :).
 

Ft.S

Semi-Pro
Now that I know I can get racquets that are EXACTLY what I want, I am having a hard time dealing with the fact that two of my TC97s are different in weight and balance due to changing out pallets. I talking like 3 grams and maybe a point of two balance, but it's actually bothering me to the point I just bought another TC97 (my 4th) so I can get the perfect setup again.
It's a sickness.
I wish there was pill for this :D:D:D
 

SpinDr.

Professional
2xTC95, 16x19, 320g, 10pt headlight, 63RA. I've been sidelined with a pretty serious back injury for the past three months and haven't been able to use em! Ordered the sticks a few weeks before I broke myself.:( I coach high school tennis and the boy's season just started, so I've been feeding balls with it. Feels great but I won't really be able to test for another few months.
 

rlau

Hall of Fame
So the updated tally with the current members list is as follows:

TC95 - 17
TC97 - 12
TC100 - 4
TC105 - 1
26. rlau - TC95
Did you overlook that I have a TC95 as well as a TC97?

Had a great outing with the TC97 last night, and I'm really starting to click with that frame. Played really well with it. I'm considering selling the TC95 and getting another TC97.
 

The_Racketeer

Professional
Did you overlook that I have a TC95 as well as a TC97?

Had a great outing with the TC97 last night, and I'm really starting to click with that frame. Played really well with it. I'm considering selling the TC95 and getting another TC97.
I only listed the main Angell being used. I probably thought you were favoring the TC95 at the time.
 

tribesmen

Professional
I ask for your opinions regarding TC95, namely, is 320gr stable enough and is it big difference in the maneuverability between 320gr/330gr? Thank you beforehand for your replies.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I will have a 320 gram coming. I may be one of the only guys here with a 320/320 weight and balance. I think the 95-98 head size is a good match with a little more weight towards the tip of the frame, as that is how my 315 ltd has been set up for years. It makes the racquet almost swing itself on serves and groundies without me losing control of the tip - which happens sometimes on more HL balanced frames for me.

320 gram should definitely be stable enough.

Can anyone comment on the change in balance from a TC95 when strung (ill use a 17 gauge poly/syngut hybrid)? I am thinking 2-3 pts HL.
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
Has anyone played with Dunlop Biomimetic 200 and would compare it to TC95(preferably 63RA, 18x20)? I found a freakishly good deal on Bio 200 and would welcome any comparison between the two.
 

mxblink

Rookie
I will have a 320 gram coming. I may be one of the only guys here with a 320/320 weight and balance. I think the 95-98 head size is a good match with a little more weight towards the tip of the frame, as that is how my 315 ltd has been set up for years. It makes the racquet almost swing itself on serves and groundies without me losing control of the tip - which happens sometimes on more HL balanced frames for me.
Hey PP just fyi, I don't believe that the different balances within a given weight range reflect any redistribution of weight around the tip of the frame. I say this because when I ordered my TC97, I inquired about the target SW's for the different balance specs at 320g, and Paul said that they all basically had the same SW, with any weight changes occurring in the handle. So yes, while the different balances do reflect a difference in weight distribution, all of that difference is occurring in the handle where it really won't affect SW/weight "towards the tip."

You might've already known that, but just in case.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Hey PP just fyi, I don't believe that the different balances within a given weight range reflect any redistribution of weight around the tip of the frame. I say this because when I ordered my TC97, I inquired about the target SW's for the different balance specs at 320g, and Paul said that they all basically had the same SW, with any weight changes occurring in the handle. So yes, while the different balances do reflect a difference in weight distribution, all of that difference is occurring in the handle where it really won't affect SW/weight "towards the tip."

You might've already known that, but just in case.
Yes that makes perfect sense to me.

It sounds like you can open up the handle and shift the balance more HH or HL the way he puts lead in the different slots of the hair pin. More HL would mean lead closest to the handle I would imagine. Which is absolutely awesome if that is the case.

Besides accepting the death of the 315, what really intrigued me about this frame and got me to buy one is everyone who has one says how solid they are. That is a characteristic of a racquet that I really look for. It is harder and harder to find. Even with the Extreme pro, I accepted it would never be as solid as a frame I would normally choose.
 

supineAnimation

Hall of Fame
Hey PP just fyi, I don't believe that the different balances within a given weight range reflect any redistribution of weight around the tip of the frame. I say this because when I ordered my TC97, I inquired about the target SW's for the different balance specs at 320g, and Paul said that they all basically had the same SW, with any weight changes occurring in the handle. So yes, while the different balances do reflect a difference in weight distribution, all of that difference is occurring in the handle where it really won't affect SW/weight "towards the tip."

You might've already known that, but just in case.
He told me they all have an unstrung SW between 295 and 305. The first one I got was at the upper end of that range and so the final swingweight was a bit too high for me. So whenever the new stock of 97s arrives, I'm gonna go with a smaller grip size and 10g lighter in stock, and I'm gonna ask him to pick out one of the stock for me that's at lowest end of the range as possible so that the strung swingweight I end up with after I string, add an overgrip, dampeners (I use two O grommets) and head tape will be closer to 325-330 than the last one. But yeah, while there is a small range of the unstrung SW, I don't know if that has any correlation to the weight or balance you order.
 

The_Racketeer

Professional
@Power Player I was using the POG100 and needed something with comparable stability but in a lighter package for the sake of maneuverability. My TC95 is 310gm unstrung and yet it's as stable as can be. Doesn't flutter in serve returns and is fantastic on volleys. The foam filled design helps that. I don't think you'll have any problems with the stability of the specs you choose.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
@Power Player I was using the POG100 and needed something with comparable stability but in a lighter package for the sake of maneuverability. My TC95 is 310gm unstrung and yet it's as stable as can be. Doesn't flutter in serve returns and is fantastic on volleys. The foam filled design helps that. I don't think you'll have any problems with the stability of the specs you choose.
Yeah, it sounds great. How much does stringing the frame affect the balance for you? Im guessing mine will be 4-5 pts HL after stringing, which is where my tec 315 is, and is also where the Dunlop 200 4g balanced out.
 
Has anyone played with Dunlop Biomimetic 200 and would compare it to TC95(preferably 63RA, 18x20)? I found a freakishly good deal on Bio 200 and would welcome any comparison between the two.
i have hit with both... the tc95 is the solider and much faster through the air older brother. serves way better and stability is superior. good stick the 200 though

similar flex but the 200 has more flex in the head whereas the tc95 has is more evenly distributed
 
Yes that makes perfect sense to me.

It sounds like you can open up the handle and shift the balance more HH or HL the way he puts lead in the different slots of the hair pin. More HL would mean lead closest to the handle I would imagine. Which is absolutely awesome if that is the case.

Besides accepting the death of the 315, what really intrigued me about this frame and got me to buy one is everyone who has one says how solid they are. That is a characteristic of a racquet that I really look for. It is harder and harder to find. Even with the Extreme pro, I accepted it would never be as solid as a frame I would normally choose.
yeah its so solid
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
i have hit with both... the tc95 is the solider and much faster through the air older brother. serves way better and stability is superior. good stick the 200 though

similar flex but the 200 has more flex in the head whereas the tc95 has is more evenly distributed
Thank you. I am very much tempted to pull the trigger on the 200. Seems like a stepping stone in Angells direction plus I'm not sure about my preferred specs anymore and I could test it on the 200 to find out. Cosmetics are killer, too and the price for a new frame is outright ridiculous.
 
Thank you. I am very much tempted to pull the trigger on the 200. Seems like a stepping stone in Angells direction plus I'm not sure about my preferred specs anymore and I could test it on the 200 to find out. Cosmetics are killer, too and the price for a new frame is outright ridiculous.
true true... Until i bought the angell ive regretted unloading my 200. I agree that however if you get the 200 and customize it that frame will give you a very clear idea of the angell specs you would want (though it wont have the customization room). Also the tc95 and tc97 are going to be more forgiving, stable and solid though... which i attribute to construction + less cost saving engineering and materials... basically the angells are like the prostocks that elite pro players have available... not simply easier to customize they are made with more material and care which is immediately apparent when you hit with one.
 

Joxrox

New User
Why not so many Users useing the 100?
And please what is the difference between 97 and 97s?
I am thing about an 100 or 97 witch are the differnces?

At this time i am useing a Blade 98s ... can anyone bild a Angell close to the Blade 98s?
I am not familar with its .. headblance ...
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I wanted the 100 but I read that the SW was pretty high on the 63 flex and the 95 plays bigger than it's size. Add to the fact that it is Paul Angell - the guy who essentially mastered the design of the 95 years back and now is making a more modern version, and I had to try one.

Close to the Blade 98 - that would be the 97 I would imagine.
 

Surion

Hall of Fame
Hi,
I don't know if anybody played both racquets, but could someone please compare the Angell TC95 to the Pro Staff 97S?
I like my 97S, 340 g, 32.5 cm balance strung, but am eager to try an Angell.

Thinking about TC95, 63 RA, 16/19, 320 g, 315 mm.

Thank you!
 

The_Racketeer

Professional
Why not so many Users useing the 100?
And please what is the difference between 97 and 97s?
I am thing about an 100 or 97 witch are the differnces?

At this time i am useing a Blade 98s ... can anyone bild a Angell close to the Blade 98s?
I am not familar with its .. headblance ...
Power Player answered your first question perfectly.

There is no Angell 97s. People are just plueralising 97.

2 major differences between the 97 and 100 (other than the obvious head size)
Flex: the 97 comes in a 66RA while the 100 comes in 63 and 70RA (prehandle & strings). Also, the 100 has a more uniform flex while the 97 flexes more in the hoop.
Mould: the 97 has a new box beam design, while the 100 has a D-beam design. Personal preference.
 

smirker

Hall of Fame
Anyone have the 63ra 18x20 95? Looking for a long term option when my current Radical wear out. Have come to the conclusion 18x20 is the best pattern for me. Particularly interested in how lighter versions play as this is the direction I will probably go.
 
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