Hansen
Professional
easier than gut/poly?Also, since I now switched to Halo strings, it has become even easier on my arm/wrist/elbow, it is just perfect at this time
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Ft.S
Semi-Pro
Quite bit easier than poly; it lacks power for me, so I am using gut/halo combination, and it is thus far the best combination I tested. Also, tension retention seems to be better than poly as well, at least after stringing, I have 5 hrs of play across two racquets, not enough to determine tension loss yet.
Cool thanks.
saleem
Semi-Pro
I had 2 Ai 98 last year I liked those racquets so much that I bought 1 DR98 in January it is very nice racquet and my reasoning was the same (TE), beginning of May I bought a TC97, in the beginning I was not too sure but after modifying and playing with it for 2-3 weeks I sold all of my Yonex, my kids bought me a new DR98 on Father's day I even sold that on fleebay and bought myself a TC100, no arm issue with either of those racquets I am using full poly.
Had a similar story in that I thought the DR98 would be my go-to stick; but when hitting side by side with my TC97, just found that the TC outperformed the DR in most categories, especially serves; volleys were probably about even. And I thought the DR98 was a pretty good racquet! Have had zero elbow issues with the TC97.
So, with the TC97 and TC100, do you find yourself playing with one more than the other, or one for singles and the other for doubles?
Thanks for answering a few of my questions, I had a dr98 for a while this year and liked everything other than the thicker beam, I've always prefered thin beams, currently play with blade 98s, but don't really get the control I want. My elbow issues started in march time whilst stupidly hitting an APD for 3 weeks, and ever since I've been susceptible, for example playing with damp balls that are heavier (I live in UK it rains ) so I've stopped playing full poly and am taking a few weeks off arm.
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
My hitting partner who is using his 6.1 95 16x18 is looking very hard at the TC97... that added dwell time is a major part of his good hands finesse game... a trcky lefty with a wicked slice and great second serve and incredible hands. He's using the 6.196 16x18 because his Donnay Silver 99 just doesnt have the stability (its wobbly on returns etc, it has a very flexy head) he needs to handle the very heavy balls coming off my TC95. My biggest question for you is how is thr TC97 on backhand slices as that is his main weapon (he used to warm up WTA pros who needed wicked lefty slice practice)? Im probably stupid for trying to amp up the one groundstroke he has the causes me any hell (I hit a more wawrinka-esque backhand so low skidding balls are the smart way to play me). When he's on and Im a little off it makes life very very tough... but Im a libra, I play more to have competitive, high caliber & aesthetically pleasing matches than just winninging at any cost. The nice thing about his slice is it forces me to come forward and crowd the net. It makes for good contrast. He's a lefty finesse counterpuncher with a world class slice and Im a power/finesse ball striker.
Does the TC97 sound like a good stick for a finesse, counterpuncher, lefty slice meister? He only plays open patterns and the 62RA strung is right in his comfort zone. He was very impressed with my TC95.... I just dont think the 6.196 16x18 give him enough control as he's constantly trying to absorb my pace and force me to generate it.
I am afraid to say you might regret recommending the 97 to him. It is one of the best slicing rackets I have ever used. I play on grass admittedly so the effect is enhanced but I can knife low, skidding slices with the 97 and carve a wicked slice serve with it. I am not a touch player but the 97 helps me out as much as it can. I would think a touch player like your hitting partner would conjure up some wonder shots with it. It's a solid-feeling all-rounder with exceptional touch and feel. I am sure he would love it but would you????
I am afraid to say you might regret recommending the 97 to him. It is one of the best slicing rackets I have ever used. I play on grass admittedly so the effect is enhanced but I can knife low, skidding slices with the 97 and carve a wicked slice serve with it. I am not a touch player but the 97 helps me out as much as it can. I would think a touch player like your hitting partner would conjure up some wonder shots with it. It's a solid-feeling all-rounder with exceptional touch and feel. I am sure he would love it but would you????
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
Lol! I like a challenge... and our last two sets were 6-1 and 6-2... The 6.195 gives him stability and plow plus a serve that I cant just tee off on but the touch and slice isnt there for him... sounds like a solid option. He also has to be able to execute death defying lobs... because Im coming in and pretty tall. BTW Im in Northern Wisconsin now in case anyone wants to try out the TC95
Well it's certainly a spinny frame so I would imagine topspin lobs would not be an issue for him to execute.
saleem
Semi-Pro
If I am playing against hard hitters I tend to use TC97, I find I can return it better and keep the ball deep with it if I am playing against people where I have to generate my own power I prefer TC100 I can add more top spin while swinging it hard.
Shots heavier and deeper with TC97, better angles and spin with TC100.
saleem
Semi-Pro
If I am playing against hard hitters I tend to use TC97, I find I can return it better and keep the ball deep with it if I am playing against people where I have to generate my own power I prefer TC100 I can add more top spin while swinging it hard.
Shots heavier and deeper with TC97, better angles and spin with TC100.
Had loads of fun with this bad boy tonight:
I played deceptively good – which means I will probably totally suck the next time. The TC 90 – highly recommended for everyone wanting to channel their inner Grigor.
Nice contrast against the red clay. Needs a red bumper though! Is that a gut hybrid?
808
Professional
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joohan
Guest
I have BLX PS 90 and TC90, you can find my extended post comparing them in this thread(I'm too lazy to look for it). BLX PS90(and PS90 based on an hour I've had the courtesy) is significantly easier to use in a match-play,it's way easier to hit western FH with and the sweet spot is bigger v. TC90.
TC90 beats BLX90 in both precision and feel. And I mean, big time. Only frame on par is Fischer Vacuum Pro Mid.
Strung my newest Angell (Custom TC97) yesterday and hit for an 1 1/2 hours. It has better control than my TC100, and a little more power. Comparing it to my PS97, I'd say overall the feel, control are better. The PS97 is slightly more powerful, but I believe once I get used to the TC97, it will be equal. I did not put a leather grip on the TC97 because I wanted to feel the difference. Not sure yet if I will add the leather. I need more court time to decide. Very happy with the purchase. Thinking of using the TC100 for doubles and TC97 for singels. Any advice out there?
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
Is the TC97 really more powerful than the TC100? Maybe because your TC100 is the 63RA one. My 70RA TC100 is very powerful.
I've played both the TC97 and TC100 70 RA. Both are powerful sticks. I wouldn't put one obviously above the other in the power stakes.
Yes the RA63 is most likely the reason. However, I'm going to try a different string (Solinco TourBite Diamond Rough 17) that is a little stiffer. Love the feel of both racquets. I will adjust after I put more time in playing with them.
There will be those that say you should play with the same racquet all the time. Putting that view to one side i think the determination of which fits which version of the game best depends on how you play each: do you hog the baseline in singles but attack the net in doubles? Do you look to win points with power blasting or finesse? Do you serve-volley in either form of the game? FWIW i think the 100 is more suited to the baseline grinder game, while the 97 has a little more all-court ability.
smalahove
Hall of Fame
Thanks. Sounds very interesting - and even though some complain about the sweet zone of the TT95, I feel that the sweet zone is really big on it, similar to the 6.1 95 16x18, esp. leaded up, but it lacks the crunching power the wilson has.
Thanks. It seems the TC 95 might be the ticket, esp. if it is more powerful and forgiving than the TT95 which I think is pretty forgiving for a 95 frame.
Gee
Hall of Fame
They are the same.
Dsvilhena
New User
pfrischmann
Professional
Bob,
I'd be really interested in getting your impressions on the feel of the TC-97 compared to the PS-97? Is there significantly more dwell time? Is the serve as good or better?
Not Bob but as someone who has played both recently I can confirm that the TC97 is a better serving racket than the PS97. Better all round in fact for me. I like the feel of a more flexy head. The PS97 felt very firm to me, the Angell is more flexy and has more dwell time which translates to better results for me at least.
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
how are your two sticks set up? I find they are similar with the tc95 being more dynamic and with more power... plusher too.
try more headlight than your PS with more control oriented strings... it does take time to dial in but I found it worth it for the way heavier ball.. 18x20 is an option though ... Ive been tempted there but the 16x19 is going to be my goto now
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808
Professional
Looks good, plays even better. You should try one if you get the chance.
The difference between the 310 and 320 is a single 10g metal weight placed in a hole in the handle end of the racquet. Given it is there rather than air, it will absorb some vibration, but also convey some too, so it's only the net effect you'd encounter. My guess would be that you'd not be able to tell a great deal of difference in vibration terms. What is more noticeable is the effect on static weight and balance - the racquet would be heavier and more head light with the 320 (and you can choose how much). So pick based on your preferred weight and balance, not on vibration. Note: Angell's don't carry much vibration anyway, so pursuing small margins isn't really the best way of choosing.
Hansen
Professional
you could order the lightest version, remove the foam in the handle and replace it with silicone. that would reduce vibrations.
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joohan
Guest
given that they are all pretty much have the same swing weight, the purpose of a heavier version is just stability pretty much ?
If you desire more stability, and are happy with more static weight (i.e. you are comfortable at that weight and can execute your shots as you want to), then the 320 will give a little more stability than the 310 by virtue of having a greater recoil weight. However, the primary purpose is to customise to your preferred weight and balance. That's what it's mostly about.
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
just concentrate on kind strings... Angells are some of the most arm friendly sticks ever made
FluidTennis
Rookie
Is it safe to assume that the TC95 RA63 is best suited to more advanced tennis players?
That perhaps it's really best for people rated 4.5 or over?
That perhaps it's really best for people rated 4.5 or over?
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
depends... if you can handle the higher swing weight a solid 4.0 could be fine with it... even a 3.5 would be fine because at that level its mostly putting 1st serves in and not coughing up unforced errors. It is very kind to the arm. Where some might have trouble is if the sw is too much and they are constantly mishitting. As long as you csn make good contact the tc95 ra63 is a great option. Ra70 if you are worried about sw.
Also tge flex on the ra63 (58 strung) is noticeable... not a noodle but it may not be everyone's cup of tea. I personally love the flex... and it has more spin actually... crushes the ball but also nice finesse.
the stick does have power
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Ah! The classic question. Others will chip in with their views based on personal experience. FWIW Mr Angell considers the TC97 (and by extension the TC100) as easier to play, for which read more forgiving/larger sweetspot. But there is a caveat in this: those characteristics do not necessarily lead to the more forgiving stick being better, it depends on the player and how he/she plays. What i think is fair to say is this: take 100 players ranked 4.0 or below, and more rather than fewer of them will get better results with the TC97 or 100, but there will be some nonetheless than find the 95 is better for them. I do think one thing to think about is weight and swingweight - those on the boards favouring the 95 do tend to also favour the higher static and swingweights, suggesting the 95 is closer to some of the older school players sticks which played best at higher weight (but with some of Mr Angell's magic dust sprinkled into the mix).
AMGF
Hall of Fame
My 3.0 GF played with my TC95 RA63 and she plays really well with it. She finally ordered a TC100 for a bit more forgiveness.
This is not a super heavy, low polar frame like the old Prostaff classic that needs perfect technique to get away with. The TC95 is surpringly forgiving for less advanced players while being a very precise frame for 4.5+players.
If you're not 4.5+, just order with a lower weight (~310G) and you should be a-ok.
Love that. Will go red too when the bumper on my TC97 goes. The 90 definitely has the best pj of the range.
DJ-
Hall of Fame
I kinda like the glossy pj on these frames, gives it that pro stock look