topspn
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Yeah, I hear ya, I'd love a TC98 built just like the TC95/TC100 63RA. The TC95 is quite forgiving for a 95 but if in doubt you can't go wrong with TC100.
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joohan
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I think you should get a TC100 63RA just for this threads sake. I am definitely curious about what you'd think of it. I'd even be so bold to predict you won't regret the purchase. That one is a keeper.
zalive
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I appreciate what you have written about it, as I play almost exclusively on red clay which is quite common here as well. Anyway I asked for volleys and heard what I like. The only other concern is predictability, but if it's decent for the head size there will be no trouble with it. Curious as well to try it, thanks
Fed Kennedy
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Would be interested to hear this comparison.
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
pretty predictable... just pick the right strings. Really its a lot like the tc95 16x19I appreciate what you have written about it, as I play almost exclusively on red clay which is quite common here as well. Anyway I asked for volleys and heard what I like. The only other concern is predictability, but if it's decent for the head size there will be no trouble with it. Curious as well to try it, thanks
BounceHitBounceHit
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The TC 100 RA 63 is the best frame of its ilk I've ever touched. [emoji471][emoji471][emoji471]. BHBH
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joohan
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Yup. The more time I spend with it, the more I like it. Long time no see, btw .)
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
it really is... I've never played with another 100 square inch frame that I felt so immediately comfortable with... I think it's that relatively thin beam and the nice lower Flex rating... plus a pretty solid head ...it doesn't have a lot of head Distortion when you hit it so there's accuracy there and it has a nice Flex to it that leads to good touch as well
it's a great all-around frame if you can handle the higher swing weights... no other company is making such an accomplished players 100 square inch frame
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joohan
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Plus my forehand drop shots are deadliest with this stick. 100% fun factor.
Backhanded Compliment
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I'm one of those players that absolutely wants to apologize for hitting a really good forehand drop shot... but my main hitting partner will hit every tricky lefty shot in the book and that's why he's playing with the TC 100. I prefer hitting down the line or cross-court backhand winners which is why I'm playing with the TC 95... I got to say the tc100 though was the easiest 100 square inch frame I have ever played with. It just did everything I asked and made playing seem really easy... my main hitting partner is getting his TC 100 restrung with RS Lyon at 50 on the mains and 55 with Forten sweet as a cross.. well see how that goes? He really liked ars lyon fresh but it seemed to lack some of the pop that he likes as it aged. Any other string ideas I thought poly tour pro might be a good option in a as a full bed or as across it has a little more power than RS lyon
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djNEiGht
Legend
@joohan & @Backhand Compliment
It's great to hear your take on the TC100. I just didn't get into the groove of it. I want to revisit it sometime again...I appreciated the forgiveness and extra power it had. One of the teaching pros hit with it and said it reminded him of the POG OS with the way I had it set up.
It's great to hear your take on the TC100. I just didn't get into the groove of it. I want to revisit it sometime again...I appreciated the forgiveness and extra power it had. One of the teaching pros hit with it and said it reminded him of the POG OS with the way I had it set up.
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joohan
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Thank you. Hopefully I'll have another one on it's way to me soon. New paint job but no size 5 butt cap, unfortunately.)
djNEiGht
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I wonder if you could get the butt cap separately...or get another brand according to the shape of the pallet.
I am thinking that I just didn't have a good game and battling my pinched nerve issue (still) while I had the TC100. Who knows. I seemed to serve (kick) better with my POG OS than with the TC100.
Have you changed up the weight on it since you got the one I sent you for the Yonex? BTW, planning on going to a full bed of poly or a gut/poly set up next on the vCore.
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joohan
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I need to buy bigger pallets for my TC97s so I'll ask Paul if I can get butt caps one size bigger.
I haven't changed anything. It plays perfect as it is, actually. Maybe you noticed my posts about my claycourt exploits, or struggles rather...my regular hitting partner, against whom I struggle to take a set, told me he won't play sets if I use "your" TC100. I destroyed him 6:1 and the one game he got was my first service game with 2-3 double faults. TC100 is a big asset for me, especially on clay.
My Yonex Tour G is waiting for better days in my storage bag, still plastic on the handle.
topspn
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What specs for your TC100? I'm changing to L4 pallets
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joohan
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I'm not sure. @djNEiGht If I recall correctly from our conversations it's 11.7 ounces with grip size 4 and butt cap size 5 (which is one of the best features of that set up). Balance/SW unknown to me. Plus I've discovered power pads thanks to him. One of if not the best trade for me.
djNEiGht
Legend
I think it was at least 7 pts HL. I kind of want to do the same on the butt cap of the Yonex. Might just do a heat shrink. You could also consider doing that on other racquets. I got used to power pads on softer strings and started using them on all my string jobs (except where grommets would not allow to sit right).
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joohan
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Thank you. Yonex (and Fischer, Dunlop) don't have as much flare. I miss that. TC97 18x20 is an exceptional frame but TC100 63 is another beast altogether. If I had to choose one frame to play with for the rest of my days, I'd go TC100. Slightly ahead of BLX PS90.
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
Much more spin.
topspn
Legend
Interesting a larger butt cap for extra flare
Awesome! I just ordered 2 TC100s L3 but asked for L4 pallets, I was still unsure if turns to be too big.
topspn
Legend
It’s not at all! Switch to L4 without a worry. I’m 5’ 11” and average hands
Will do that! how difficult is to change angell pallets?It’s not at all! Switch to L4 without a worry. I’m 5’ 11” and average hands
saleem
Semi-Pro
on 1 to 5 scale it is 2.5
Sambuccashake
Hall of Fame
Anyone tried Yonex Poly Tour Pro in the crosses with another poly in the mains? If so, how was your experience?
Different frame imo. Different feel. They have different Layups as per Paul. For me the head flex is more pronounced in the 16x19. 16x19 has more power and higher launch angle, easier to go deep, but also easier to overhit. I like the 16x19 a little more on my serve maybe, easier on the 2nd serve. On groundstrokes the 18x20 lets me hit out more, Dominic Thiem style, because it is relatively low powered. I really like both frames!
Gee
Hall of Fame
Recently I sold my TC95 63RA 18x20 to my mate while I purchased two TC100s 63RA on the first impulse after one demo session.
I sold my TC95s as I was looking for a bit more forgiven frame with similar feel. That's why I suggested the TC100 would be a good candidate
Unfortunately I figured out that the TC100 is still too powerful and too lively for my game after a few matches.
I also own the TC97 18x20 66RA that gives me much better control. It only feels a tad too firm/stiff to my taste.
So I would like to see a TC98 (or TC97) 18x20 63RA added to the Angell series.
Currently I'll switch back to my Völkl C10 Pro that has a more comfortable softer feel than my TC97.
Subaruvich
Semi-Pro
My wish is TC90 RA63. Anyone selling his Vantage?
Gee
Hall of Fame
Indeed I considered the TC95 16x19 63RA.
Looking back the TC95 16x19 63RA would be a better choice than the TC100 for my game but I was so blown away because of the huge serve capacities of the TC100.
First I also thought the headsize of the TC95 and TC97 were identical but after a more precise measurement I still noticed a very slight difference in size. The TC97 plays a little more forgiving as well. For example I can hit my slice backhand just a little easier with the TC97.
topspn
Legend
Hit with my TC95 today for a couple of hours. Team drills and a set at the end. The L4 grip is just the right size for me! My grip was more relaxed and felt very natural. I’ve had 3 different strings so far strung @45lbs on my TC95s and I seem to have really gelled with this frame at this tension. I think polys are performing extremely well and a bit of longevity to boot.
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Awesome! Do you know whats the angell leather thickness? I didnt find this info
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joohan
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Another TC100 on its way, let the games begin...I'd like to dedicate a full year to this frame (racquetaholism permitting), dial in strings and really find out where my game is at. I feel like I'm at crossroads, really. Trying to perfect my serve, for instance, but I'm like Novak in his worst years - double faulting machine. I'm pretty sure that TC100 is the perfect platform to build a high level game upon.
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I think we have similar tastes in rackets. Have just acquired a pair of Head IG Prestige mp's which are supposed to be low powered but they don't feel that way to me. Good feel from the thin beam and plenty of power imo. Was going to try the TC97 18x20 but not sure I need to now. I agree, a TC97 or 98 18x20 with a lower ra could be very good. The 100 is a very powerful frame which is why I didn't buy one.
I think we have similar tastes in rackets. Have just acquired a pair of Head IG Prestige mp's which are supposed to be low powered but they don't feel that way to me. Good feel from the thin beam and plenty of power imo. Was going to try the TC97 18x20 but not sure I need to now. I agree, a TC97 or 98 18x20 with a lower ra could be very good. The 100 is a very powerful frame which is why I didn't buy one.
topspn
Legend
I don't know but fairway is 1.5mm. I'd ask Paul on FB messenger
808
Professional
A little late, but mine are all right around 316 SW unstrung. 27.5", 320g and 317mm (10pt HL).
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
overall I'm very glad I made the switch to 16 by 19 frames though it's true I modernized a lot of my game at the same time I did that. I switched my grip for my forehand and altered my second serve significantly... tc95 63ra 16x19. is one hell of a stick!
if I were playing doubles often I might want to have the 18 x 20 version available in my bag as well though.
I found the 16 x 19 string pattern really can help with second serve margin as well as first serves when you just simply want to be putting the ball in with higher margin as well. I also find it helps me on service returns on my backhand side because I can take bigger cuts at the ball and and use the greater topspin potential to pull it back in. overall greater amounts of topspin from a 16 by 19 just feels more modern a game to me. Note most of my second serves are American twists so I rely on the greater spin potential to create the variability on my seconds off the bounce... the thing with modern tennis is is that poly strings have made returning easier so if you're facing an opponent who knows your serves well introducing more variability off the bounce is a crucial thing.... they've seen the serve before but they don't quite know what's going to happen after it hits the ground.
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haqq777
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Hello friends,
So I have been playing around with strings in all of my Custom TC100s lately. So far I have found the firmer copolys to really complement my 70 RA TC100 a lot. Have been ripping the fuzz off balls using Volkl Cyclone and RPM Blast with lovely spin and control. Have had atleast half a dozen string jobs between both my firmer TC100s and loving the combo.
I have also found that both my softer TC100s are more string sensitive and type+tension really changes the way those sticks plays. More than their firmer counterparts actually.
Finally, after using a bunch of strings, best copoly so far has been RS Lyon, hands down. Have used varied tensions and 48-50lbs mark takes the cake. I have used Tourbite, Silverstring, Hyper-G, Cyclone, Red Code and a few others. Also playtested the new Laserfibre Native Tour 17 in it and it was meh. Did you have any similar experience gentlemen? Thoughts? @topspn @Backhanded Compliment @joohan
Also, is it just me or do the usual grommets start deshaping just after 3-4 string jobs? Much softer than most other brands in my limited experience so far.
Cheers!
So I have been playing around with strings in all of my Custom TC100s lately. So far I have found the firmer copolys to really complement my 70 RA TC100 a lot. Have been ripping the fuzz off balls using Volkl Cyclone and RPM Blast with lovely spin and control. Have had atleast half a dozen string jobs between both my firmer TC100s and loving the combo.
I have also found that both my softer TC100s are more string sensitive and type+tension really changes the way those sticks plays. More than their firmer counterparts actually.
Finally, after using a bunch of strings, best copoly so far has been RS Lyon, hands down. Have used varied tensions and 48-50lbs mark takes the cake. I have used Tourbite, Silverstring, Hyper-G, Cyclone, Red Code and a few others. Also playtested the new Laserfibre Native Tour 17 in it and it was meh. Did you have any similar experience gentlemen? Thoughts? @topspn @Backhanded Compliment @joohan
Also, is it just me or do the usual grommets start deshaping just after 3-4 string jobs? Much softer than most other brands in my limited experience so far.
Cheers!
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I might be crazy, but I really love the RA70 - I've always preferred more flex, but somehow it just feels right in this configuration. Seems to give more pop.
One thing I've done recently is convert my 330g/305mm balance TC90 to a more even balance. I did the following:
- removed the pallet and took out one set of lead weights (about 28g, I think).
- added about 14g spread around 3/9/12
- with over grip, and strung, I've ended up with a racquet that's about 340g with a balance about 3pt HL (333m)
I like this setup because I feel like I can swing easier, and it crunches the ball a bit more. I suppose it's not really as whippy-feeling as it was before, but it is still quite maneuverable.
To top it all off, I ordered a second TC90 with the same specs as my original - and then applied the same customizations to a T. The end result? Two identical racquets! Unreal - such fine craftsmanship.
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
Yeah so far RsLyon has been the clear favorite but I plan to try max power some time... thing is I havent dropped a set in over a month!!! ...and that keeps me from wanting to change anything
That said my main hitting partner (understandably sick of my winning streak) is trying out RSLyon with forten sweet as a cross. After about 12 hours the full bed of RSlyon was done for him in his tc100 and he wasnt getting pop on his serves. He was missing that and is trying a hybrid. I think a cross of scorpion might be interesting and Yonex Poly tour pro should be good too.
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
Just wait until you try a V-grip, you'll go another level higher
Are you full bed RS Lyon? Sorry, I haven't been following closely lately.