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[matchpoint9]

Even though my main stick is TC97, I really love the 93P. I haven't even customized my 93P and it plays so well for me. Feels nicely weighted and balanced stock. I occasionally hit with it whenever in the mood. But yeah, completely know what you mean.

Just curious, do you guys play mostly singles or doubles? Or equally? @JOSHL
And how's TC97 vs Lime for serving? I love my TC95 16m but I think I play better with 18x20 in doubles and still regret selling my TC95 18x20. I'm not good enough player to play doubles with 93P so I sold it .

 

[JOSHL]

Just curious, do you guys play mostly singles or doubles? Or equally? @JOSHL
And how's TC97 vs Lime for serving? I love my TC95 16m but I think I play better with 18x20 in doubles and still regret selling my TC95 18x20. I'm not good enough player to play doubles with 93P so I sold it .

I play both but lately more singles because one of my reg doubles guys has been out with TE. I'm not a very good player either but I don't find the 93p to be too small, too heavy, too demanding, or too anything really. I also don't have any mods to it except a built up butt cap which adds about 1-2pts more HL. The 93p is the best serving stick I have ever used. The Lime serves well also but nothing compares to the 93p for me.

 

[teekaywhy]

I’d be surprised if theASL plays as stiff as the 98 ezone, found the ezone played stiffer than it’s RA and was unstable too, pretty horrible and very short play test
However I recently got back on the courts & got to hit my friends imported ezone 98+ this was completely different, solid, powerfull and played considerably more flexible than the standard 98. Amazing what a difference an extra half inch gives you!

There are imported Ezones?! Do explain

 

[AesBinz]

I have not noticed this dead spot. Grommets are different by colour. Black ones are more plastic, more hard, white ones - tad more flexer and easier to install. Have not compared blue and green ones, but I have them at home, I can take a look if needed.

Thanks, I'm reading the whole thread at the moment, and the most prevalent issue is the grommet being split when strung by shaped poly, I hope it's not an issue anymore

 

[matchpoint9]

I play both but lately more singles because one of my reg doubles guys has been out with TE. I'm not a very good player either but I don't find the 93p to be too small, too heavy, too demanding, or too anything really. I also don't have any mods to it except a built up butt cap which adds about 1-2pts more HL. The 93p is the best serving stick I have ever used. The Lime serves well also but nothing compares to the 93p for me.

Totally agree, 93p is not 'too small' as the number might suggest, and I know someone who plays really well with it. But your comment about serving is interesting because I serve really well with my TC95 16m but for whatever reason with 93p I couldn't get any pace on the serve. Maybe I sold it too early and didn't put enough effort to figure out how to bring the most out of it. Anyways, leaded Lime is working pretty well for me so I'll stick to it for now.

 

[topspn]

Totally agree, 93p is not 'too small' as the number might suggest, and I know someone who plays really well with it. But your comment about serving is interesting because I serve really well with my TC95 16m but for whatever reason with 93p I couldn't get any pace on the serve. Maybe I sold it too early and didn't put enough effort to figure out how to bring the most out of it. Anyways, leaded Lime is working pretty well for me so I'll stick to it for now.

I had a brief demo with the 93P and it was a good serving stick but not in the TC95 class. I haven’t found anything that serves this well in all honesty. The TC100 is a contender and so is the old Pure Storm Tour GT. The combination of power, kick and accuracy is top notch.

 

[haqq777]

Just curious, do you guys play mostly singles or doubles? Or equally? @JOSHL
And how's TC97 vs Lime for serving? I love my TC95 16m but I think I play better with 18x20 in doubles and still regret selling my TC95 18x20. I'm not good enough player to play doubles with 93P so I sold it .

I'm a 99% singles player. Very rarely do I play doubles and when I do it is just for kicks and giggles. I play singles with local college team guys so it is high level. And I play to stay in shape (work on progress, really).

I found TC97 (I use 18x20) better in serving. More precision and plow. But in terms of serve monster, I have yet to come across any stick that beats TC95. That thing will serve lights out. The 93P is good, but not in the same league for serves.

I had a long post on the 93P thread in early pages (I was one of the guys who got it as soon as it released). It is a great stick but requires proper footwork and setting up everytime. Come high level college tennis time, you can see your own limitations with that stick. It does play bigger than 93 sq inch for sure. But crunch time when its a set a piece deep in third set, and you are huffing and puffing to get to those heavy balls pushing you deeper behind baseline, you need that extra something that helps and has a little bit more power and forgiveness. I loved playing with it but it isn't my competition stick.

 

[Faris]

I had a brief demo with the 93P and it was a good serving stick but not in the TC95 class. I haven’t found anything that serves this well in all honesty. The TC100 is a contender and so is the old Pure Storm Tour GT. The combination of power, kick and accuracy is top notch.

Yep, agreed. Pure Storm GTs are da bomb! My local tennis pro has one and he let me borrow it and wow that thing is solid! And feedback isn't tinny like moderns babolats too!

 

[sanister]

I play both but lately more singles because one of my reg doubles guys has been out with TE. I'm not a very good player either but I don't find the 93p to be too small, too heavy, too demanding, or too anything really. I also don't have any mods to it except a built up butt cap which adds about 1-2pts more HL. The 93p is the best serving stick I have ever used. The Lime serves well also but nothing compares to the 93p for me.

Josh I recently tried 93P and really liked it as well. I am wondering if you ever used TC95. Wanted to see what you thought about serves with TC95. I agree with most here that once you try TC95 you will see that it serves so much bigger and heavier than 93P. But not to take anything away from 93P that is a great racquet for sure!!

 

[JOSHL]

Josh I recently tried 93P and really liked it as well. I am wondering if you ever used TC95. Wanted to see what you thought about serves with TC95. I agree with most here that once you try TC95 you will see that it serves so much bigger and heavier than 93P. But not to take anything away from 93P that is a great racquet for sure!!

So I just got the TC95 but haven't hit with it yet because of all the rain. I strung it with Big Hitter Silver at 47/43lbs. The one i have unstrung specs are-11.7oz, 70RA, 16x19, 12pts HL. Strung specs are- 12.56oz(built up butt, overripe, damp) 12pts HL. Oh and its the latest version.
Needless to say I am very excited to hit this thing, but the string pattern is WIDE OPEN like a damn spin effect! LOL
You guys that like the serve on the 95, are your specs similar?

 

[matchpoint9]

So I just got the TC95 but haven't hit with it yet because of all the rain. I strung it with Big Hitter Silver at 47/43lbs. The one i have unstrung specs are-11.7oz, 70RA, 16x19, 12pts HL. Strung specs are- 12.56oz(built up butt, overripe, damp) 12pts HL. Oh and its the latest version.
Needless to say I am very excited to hit this thing, but the string pattern is WIDE OPEN like a damn spin effect! LOL
You guys that like the serve on the 95, are your specs similar?

Similar specs except 63RA. I did play with the 70 version as well, but prefer the 63.

 

[haqq777]

So I just got the TC95 but haven't hit with it yet because of all the rain. I strung it with Big Hitter Silver at 47/43lbs. The one i have unstrung specs are-11.7oz, 70RA, 16x19, 12pts HL. Strung specs are- 12.56oz(built up butt, overripe, damp) 12pts HL. Oh and its the latest version.
Needless to say I am very excited to hit this thing, but the string pattern is WIDE OPEN like a damn spin effect! LOL
You guys that like the serve on the 95, are your specs similar?

lol, yeah the string pattern is definitely very open. Ever since I switched to denser patterns it takes me a while to reel in balls with these open patterns whenever I switch. Very high launch angle. Mine is the 63RA TC95. It needs restringing but mine was 45 lbs last with YPTS if I recall correctly. Weighs 345g strung with OG.

 

[JOSHL]

I just get so much RHS with the 93p so pop on serves has never been an issue. Specs on the 93p are-12.42oz 11pts HL.

 

[djNEiGht]

@JOSHL I think you will like it...give it a bit more time...an extended honeymoon. granted i'm looking at it from a 63RA model.

 

[topspn]

So I just got the TC95 but haven't hit with it yet because of all the rain. I strung it with Big Hitter Silver at 47/43lbs. The one i have unstrung specs are-11.7oz, 70RA, 16x19, 12pts HL. Strung specs are- 12.56oz(built up butt, overripe, damp) 12pts HL. Oh and its the latest version.
Needless to say I am very excited to hit this thing, but the string pattern is WIDE OPEN like a damn spin effect! LOL
You guys that like the serve on the 95, are your specs similar?

I had exact same stick before and huuuuuge serve. I now use the TC95 63RA in stock unstrung 320g/10HL. I use only 16g gauge due to open pattern and nothing beats this baby on serve. I use Black Night string @48lbs

 

[topspn]

@JOSHL one thing to remember as I noticed string tension 47/43lbs. You will exaggerate the launch angle on TC95 with looser crosses. Even will be more reasonable or the natural launch angle for frame/string combo and tightening the crosses will reduce the launch angle.

 

[galapagos]

Thanks. So the lime has more flex then. I added 5 grams of lead to the hoop of the prestige to get more stability and depth on shots. I string it with either hyper g or solstice power 18g at 48 pounds to get the power and spin. I just bought my second prestige but am tempted to try the lime. I’ve never had the chance to play any Angell racquets.

i didn't say more flex but different flex style. uniform flex I would associate with stiffer feel, more solid yet similar comfort. while prestige touch head flex style associate with pillowy feel but less "crashing the ball" sensation. head touch is kinda drawing the impact force from the ball and then launch it back. uniform flex kinda tells the ball "hey you ! stop , you won't go any further" ;p

 

[ed70]

There are imported Ezones?! Do explain

Not much to say really. Ezone + was not available in Uk or Europe. Freind bought one when in US, nice frame.

 

[teekaywhy]

Not much to say really. Ezone + was not available in Uk or Europe. Freind bought one when in US, nice frame.

Interesting. Didn't know that.

 

[topspn]

@t_pac Yes the ASL3 has a pallet! So now the frame is at 333.8g and 32.3cms or around 6.5HL. I will try to play with it over the next 3 days and see how it feels with the added weight. I added weight to the head, leather grip and 7” from the butt cap.

 

[haqq777]

@t_pac Yes the ASL3 has a pallet! So now the frame is at 333.8g and 32.3cms or around 6.5HL. I will try to play with it over the next 3 days and see how it feels with the added weight. I added weight to the head, leather grip and 7” from the butt cap.

Pretty close to my TC100 specs give or take. I really want to know if it is a similar beast or not now that it's apples to apples. Will wait for your feedback. Did you add weight at 3&9 or at noon in the hoop?

 

[topspn]

Pretty close to my TC100 specs give or take. I really want to know if it is a similar beast or not now that it's apples to apples. Will wait for your feedback. Did you add weight at 3&9 or at noon in the hoop?

I added 3g tungsten 1-2 and 10-11. Yeah, pretty curious myself how it will play compared to TC100

 

[Gee]

I am not sure but does my K7 Lime have replaceable pallets like the custom series?

 

[MilanA]

I am not sure but does my K7 Lime have replaceable pallets like the custom series?

Seems like it. My TC100 has the same thing according to your picture.

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[Gee]

Are you switching Paolo?

How are the other Lime users doing? @Gee are you making the switch?

Last times I only played with my K7 Lime as I indeed try to switch.

The K7 Lime has the perfect headsize to me and it plays very similar as the TC95 18m regarding ball launch and directional control.

Both frames have a different feel. The TC95 has that satisfied solid feel with a twack sound because of the foam filled construction whereas the K7 Lime has a more muted vibration free touch/feel that reminds me of the Völkl C10 Pro. No coincidence as these frames have a graphite/kevlar composition.

I am not sure which feel I prefer. Honestly I miss that solid twack of the TC95 a little bit but I am getting more and more used to the feel of the K7. In stock condition the K7 is not as heavy and solid as my TC95 but after I customized my K7 with lead it feels solid enough and stll very maneuverable to me.

The K7 Lime just plays so much easier than the TC95 as it is much more maneuverable and more forgiven. I noticed that I am able to hit half volleys successful more often than with my TC95. The touch of the K7 is just great!

My only minor issue is that the grip size 3 feels slightly too small to me. Even if I amply overlap my overgrip as it'll shrink after a few hours of play.
I want to try a grip 4 but I am not sure if the K7 Lime can be replaced.

 

[Jouke]

I am not sure but does my K7 Lime have replaceable pallets like the custom series?

This looks molded, so not replacable to me.

 

[MilanA]

This looks molded, so not replacable to me.

If you check the picture closely, you will see a line on the whole side. That's the gap between the halves. At least I think so.

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[Jouke]

If you check the picture closely, you will see a line on the whole side. That's the gap between the halves. At least I think so.

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Yes but the molded pallets looks exactly like that .

With the normal Pallets there is a significant gap between the 2 pallets.

 

[Gee]

Yes but the molded pallets looks exactly like that .

With the normal Pallets there is a significant gap between the 2 pallets.

I just asked Angell again about this and he confirmed that the K7 has moulded PU direct onto the hairpin.

 

[Gamechanger]

Last times I only played with my K7 Lime as I indeed try to switch.

The K7 Lime has the perfect headsize to me and it plays very similar as the TC95 18m regarding ball launch and directional control.

Both frames have a different feel. The TC95 has that satisfied solid feel with a twack sound because of the foam filled construction whereas the K7 Lime has a more muted vibration free touch/feel that reminds me of the Völkl C10 Pro. No coincidence as these frames have a graphite/kevlar composition.

I am not sure which feel I prefer. Honestly I miss that solid twack of the TC95 a little bit but I am getting more and more used to the feel of the K7. In stock condition the K7 is not as heavy and solid as my TC95 but after I customized my K7 with lead it feels solid enough and stll very maneuverable to me.

The K7 Lime just plays so much easier than the TC95 as it is much more maneuverable and more forgiven. I noticed that I am able to hit half volleys successful more often than with my TC95. The touch of the K7 is just great!

My only minor issue is that the grip size 3 feels slightly too small to me. Even if I amply overlap my overgrip as it'll shrink after a few hours of play.
I want to try a grip 4 but I am not sure if the K7 Lime can be replaced.

So Grip on K7 Lime is smaller then on TC ? Cause anyone in the Thread says the Opposite!

 

[Gee]

So Grip on K7 Lime is smaller then on TC ? Cause anyone in the Thread says the Opposite!

No, they feel the same size to me.

 

[MilanA]

I just asked Angell again about this and he confirmed that the K7 has moulded PU direct onto the hairpin.

Well...my bad than...sorry [emoji5]

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[Gamechanger]

( Sorry, i am not an English Speaker...) So you can change the Grip on K7 Lime? It has a Pallet System as the TC?

 

[Gee]

( Sorry, i am not an English Speaker...) So you can change the Grip on K7 Lime? It has a Pallet System as the TC?

No, the grip pallets of all prebuilt frames like the K-series cannot be replaced.

 

[topspn]

That sure as heck looks like a pallet to me

 

[Jouke]

That sure as heck looks like a pallet to me

No, on the Tc custom series there is a significant gap between the pallets. You can easily put a knife between it.

On the K7 series the grip is molded. You can not change the pallets. You can send it to ring and roll and have them put a custom handle on there.

 

[topspn]

No, on the Tc custom series there is a significant gap between the pallets. You can easily put a knife between it.

On the K7 series the grip is molded. You can not change the pallets. You can send it to ring and roll and have them put a custom handle on there.

Ok, I can’t really confirm or deny that the pallet on TC has a significant gap. I’m obviously not going to take off one of my leathers grips to check
However a molded handle means that they literally put a mold on the racquet and pour in the material in this cylinder like mold. Once the material dries, they take this mold off and what’s left is this hardened poured handle. What I am looking at in the picture looks like a clam shell pallet and does not look like a molded handle. So I am not sure what’s going on here?? Are they installing this pallet differently or what? But it doesn’t make sense to install pallets in two different ways on prebuilt or custom unless I am missing something that would make sense in the manufacturing process.

 

[ChrisG]

Hi !! I'm a new family member !
Just bought through the classifieds (thks TW!) a TC 95 V2 300g and 32,5cm (16x19), and what a stick !! I started playing again last September after 15 years off, and I have a lot of trouble finding what would be my main racquet.
Tried Pure Aero, very arm unfriendly, impossible to get even a minimal access to control, I was forced to play with the handbrake on, what a nightmare.
Then I went to the other end of the spectrum with the Tour 100P, good stick, but lacks character.
My Tennis club has a deal with Tecnifibre (I'm from Paris, France and the brand is pushing hard since the Lacoste takeover) so I tried the new Tfight XTC range. The 98sq 300g is a very good stick, but too stiff (69RA I think).
I don't know how I came across the Angell brand but I ended reading this thread and finally buying the TC 95. I've only hit once with it, yesterday, and despite my injured shoulder (thks pure aero), I hit my best DHBH for ages, powerful yet very precise. FH was good, but didn't want to hit too hard to preserve my shoulder but it looks promising.
Can't comment on serve, but overall very pleased with the TC95. Coming from a 100sq background, I didn't feel any problem to adjust to the 95sq. Let's see how it plays out on a competitive game, though.
Balance makes this stick very powerful, strung with silvering 17 at 48lbs, I might go with a higher tension. I like the fact that you have to actually hit hard to tame the power, hitting too relaxed made the ball flying.
Maybe try RS Lyon as it's a more muted string from what I've read?

Anyhow, thanks to all of you for the great inputs through the almost 400 pages ( didn't read all ;-))

 

[topspn]

Hi !! I'm a new family member !
Just bought through the classifieds (thks TW!) a TC 95 V2 300g and 32,5cm (16x19), and what a stick !! I started playing again last September after 15 years off, and I have a lot of trouble finding what would be my main racquet.
Tried Pure Aero, very arm unfriendly, impossible to get even a minimal access to control, I was forced to play with the handbrake on, what a nightmare.
Then I went to the other end of the spectrum with the Tour 100P, good stick, but lacks character.
My Tennis club has a deal with Tecnifibre (I'm from Paris, France and the brand is pushing hard since the Lacoste takeover) so I tried the new Tfight XTC range. The 98sq 300g is a very good stick, but too stiff (69RA I think).
I don't know how I came across the Angell brand but I ended reading this thread and finally buying the TC 95. I've only hit once with it, yesterday, and despite my injured shoulder (thks pure aero), I hit my best DHBH for ages, powerful yet very precise. FH was good, but didn't want to hit too hard to preserve my shoulder but it looks promising.
Can't comment on serve, but overall very pleased with the TC95. Coming from a 100sq background, I didn't feel any problem to adjust to the 95sq. Let's see how it plays out on a competitive game, though.
Balance makes this stick very powerful, strung with silvering 17 at 48lbs, I might go with a higher tension. I like the fact that you have to actually hit hard to tame the power, hitting too relaxed made the ball flying.
Maybe try RS Lyon as it's a more muted string from what I've read?

Anyhow, thanks to all of you for the great inputs through the almost 400 pages ( didn't read all ;-))

Silverstring is nice but not a poly with good levels of control. I use 16g Tierone Black Night @48lbs and i have very nice control

 

[Jouke]

Ok, I can’t really confirm or deny that the pallet on TC has a significant gap. I’m obviously not going to take off one of my leathers grips to check
However a molded handle means that they literally put a mold on the racquet and pour in the material in this cylinder like mold. Once the material dries, they take this mold off and what’s left is this hardened poured handle. What I am looking at in the picture looks like a clam shell pallet and does not look like a molded handle. So I am not sure what’s going on here?? Are they installing this pallet differently or what? But it doesn’t make sense to install pallets in two different ways on prebuilt or custom unless I am missing something that would make sense in the manufacturing process.

Yes unfortunatly Paul has decided to go a different route with the K7 series (and probably also with the new asl). The Pallets are now being molded/glued on the hairpin. Meaning it is not possible to change them. Also on the K7 series Paul only offers the B type grip.

On the custom series you can choose A,B or C Type Grip and change the pallets since these are not glued on there.

My guess is Paul got bored with people asking for other Pallets or people messing around with his rackets. And he might have had some problems with pallets or but caps coming loose. There is not even a trap door on the K7 lime, so that decreases our ability to customise the racket even more.

 

[ChrisG]

Silverstring is nice but not a poly with good levels of control. I use 16g Tierone Black Night @48lbs and i have very nice control

I read that this is your main string for the TC95. It's almost impossible to order it from Europe, their european website looks dead. Is it a confortable string ?

 

[Caol-ila]

Does anyone use natural gut on Angells?

 

[Carreau]

I read that this is your main string for the TC95. It's almost impossible to order it from Europe, their european website looks dead. Is it a confortable string ?

I have bought them from European site recently. Arrived in few days, no issues.
Comfort was good in TC100, feel as well. But it became too powerful after 2 hours of play. However, gauge was thinner than Topspn uses.

 

[topspn]

Yes unfortunatly Paul has decided to go a different route with the K7 series (and probably also with the new asl). The Pallets are now being molded/glued on the hairpin. Meaning it is not possible to change them. Also on the K7 series Paul only offers the B type grip.

On the custom series you can choose A,B or C Type Grip and change the pallets since these are not glued on there.

My guess is Paul got bored with people asking for other Pallets or people messing around with his rackets. And he might have had some problems with pallets or but caps coming loose. There is not even a trap door on the K7 lime, so that decreases our ability to customise the racket even more.

Ok, so it is pallets but permanently fixed somehow...interesting.

 

[topspn]

I read that this is your main string for the TC95. It's almost impossible to order it from Europe, their european website looks dead. Is it a confortable string ?

This is their European site and it shouldn’t be a problem to order if you want. Yes, it is a very comfortable poly with great pocketing.

https://europe.tieronesports.com

 

[topspn]

I have bought them from European site recently. Arrived in few days, no issues.
Comfort was good in TC100, feel as well. But it became too powerful after 2 hours of play. However, gauge was thinner than Topspn uses.

Yeah, I used the same 1.28 gauge i use on TC95 and upped the tension from 48 to 53lbs and still wanted more control. TC100 is a beast

 

[Carreau]

I think TC100 need most control oriented setup. Like SPPP, Silverstring, Black Code. Interesting finding was SPPP mains and Co-Focus crosses, played well, control was good, however, I'm constantly braking SPPP.

 

[Carreau]

I'm in country-house this weekend, getting back on Monday and ordering TC95 was well. You all have sold it to me.

 

[scf]

Black Night string

This must be sexy

 

[scf]

However, gauge was thinner than Topspn uses.

1.18? I wanted to order it too, but didn't because of the thin gauge available only. Ordered a reel of firewire, and some other sets to try.