*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

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  1. vsbabolat

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    The PT280 has more pop, has a bigger sweet spot, more forgiving on off center hits. But there is a special feel with the PC600 that I find it hard to get away from.
     
  2. JT_2eighty

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    It's negligible. A few of mine have CAP, a few don't. With the same string, they play very similar. The CAP adjusts the balance a bit, so it is a little more head heavy, but I find that head tape can have the same effect of CAP. So, a little more power the more head heavy you get.

    One good way to adjust your balance to more Head Light is to use a Leather grip with overgrip; for me this counters the CAP weight sufficiently. It makes for about a 12.8 ounce stick, but worth it if you have the timing.
     
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  3. GoodSamaritan

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    Just hit with a PT280 (China) for the first time and it felt great. I threw on a Head FC grip and 2 grams of lead on the buttcap. It still had those stock yellow strings just like the picture VS posted above but didn't play too bad after all. I only hit groundstrokes but the stick definitely felt baseline-oriented. I was intending to sell the racquet because I wanted to stick with my PC600 but I might just keep it or even switch to it. I'm an all-courter so I think I'd prefer the Prestige but the lead on the buttcap gives it a bit more maneuverability for better all-court play. Also strung it up with Big Hitter Blue Rough just now. I'll try and hit with this stick more after the rain passes.
     
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  4. Arvid

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    Some months ago a came across a brand new PT 630 that i bought on the bay, i thought it was made in austria, but from reading here i can gather that its probably made in austrian finished in chech republik. It has caps and a barcode on the throat. So my question is what exactly is the differense versus austrian made or chinese exept for the grommets? This racket plays truly amazing!! I have some head TT radicals that i normally play with and at first i thought they played almost the same....sorry about that guys the feel is completely different even if they have similaritys. Its like the PT just grabbes the ball and spits it out, a magical feel. Anyways so if i were to find more i would be interested to know what the differense is?
     
  5. JT_2eighty

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    Of my PTs, I have 1 that is like you describe. It is much lighter than the Austrian 280s and Austrian 'trek' 630s I own. The 630 "designed" in austria (finished in czech rep) is my favorite of the 3. It has more flex than the others, and the lighter weight make it more spin friendly than the other models I have.

    This is only my experience, I'm sure vsbabolat could enlighten us further as to the how and why of this, but I have weighed and balanced all of mine, and this one is light in comparison. It feels flexier, but this could be due to the weight, or something else?
     
  6. APG

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    I also recently acquired a 630 designed in Austria racket. I have a 280 made in Austria without caps and it is considerably heavier. I enjoy hitting with it and appears fairly flexible. I have toyed with purchasing other arm friendly frames because of golfers elbow but not sure anything else will necessarily be easier on the elbow. The 630 seems to
    Be easier to swing if not on the arm, then my prestiges mp. Perhaps it is my imagination since specs would suggest otherwise.
     
  7. JT_2eighty

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    I don't think it's your imagination. I had a similar experience with mine.

    My PT280s (made in Aus) weighed 12.5 and 12.6 oz, strung, gripped, no-CAP, etc. (32.5 cm bal strung)
    My PT630 (designed Aus) weighed 12.08 oz, same string & grip, WITH CAP etc. (33.5 cm bal strung)
    PT630 (made in Aus-trek font) wt 12.4 oz, no CAP, strung, etc. (strung balance 31.7cm)

    Balance point was more head heavy on the 630 (designed aus), but it still played super arm friendly (I also then added .4 oz gram lead to handle, to get to same 32.5 bal as 280s, and it helped with mobility). Even without lead, the 12.08 oz, 33.5cm (2.5 pts HL), setup on the 630-designed in Aus model is a great one. More room to mod than the other iterations, and a different flexy feel that is just butter.

    I've demoed loads of newer stuff out there from Head, Volkl, Wilson, Prince... nothing matches the arm saving qualities as the PT630 czech model. Problem is it is my only one, so I am currently saving it for when my arm needs it the most. :D
     
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  8. APG

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    I am cOncerned as well, since this is my only 630. The 280
    Is ofcourse similar but plays different with the added weight and different balance. I need something arm friendly at the moment. It is reassuring that you have demoed other rackets and cannot necessarily improve on the arm friendly nature of 630. I added a Gosen grip system to the handle adding 1.5 ozs and more headlight. The grip systems are no longer available.(sorbathane rap to reduce shock)
    Thanks for your input. Thought of demoing prince Tour and Volk, pK blackace etc but will stay with 630.
     
  9. JT_2eighty

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    From what I hear, PK may come close, and that's one brand I wasn't able to demo. The 280 is also quite arm friendly, just a little heavier overall and can be a bear over the course of a long match compared to the 630-'designed'. Some of the new Volkl Organix or BBecker models also sound good based on reviews, other sticks I haven't tried.
     
  10. kybb

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    Its the first time for me to string PT630 and after that will be my first hit with that frame.

    I have Weiss Cannon Silverstring 1.20 and 1.25 that I want to use.

    I usually strung 1.20 to LM Radigal 25/24 (55/23) and 1.25 24/23 (53/50.5).

    On Dunlop 200 Light I have Focus-Hex mains and Silverstring 1.25 crosses 24/23.

    Yes I can experiment, but would be better to start from closest point to the "truth".

    Need setup with what I can hit also flat shots.

    1. Should i use the same tension or should i go lower?
    2. Should i use the same tension in mains and crosses or keep the tifference 1kg between mains and crosses?

    I have played tennis almost for 2 years now, so if i say something that sounds stoped, then dont laugh at me:)))
     
  11. kybb

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    Ok i got no suggestions.

    So i tried 1.20 mains 24 (53) and 1.25 crosses 23 (50,5). Quite good control and power combination. Racket feels very-VERY soft: i know you all know that, but to me this was plesant suprise that it is SO soft because my Dunlop have stiffness rating 57 by TW mesurments and feels much stiffer.

    I will try on another racket seame strings with 22/21 tension.

    Feels like Dunlop 200 light is no longer needed.
     
  12. geese_com

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    Would anyone mind giving a run down of the different versions of the PT630? I just purchased a PT630, but I can't seem to find where the different versions are referenced. Thanks.
     
  13. geese_com

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    I guess I should upload some pics so that everyone knows what I'm talking about:

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    Here are the pics of my Pro Tours (too bad one of them is going to be sold soon):

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  14. geese_com

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    Wow, I feel like an idiot. Mine says "Made in Austria" so I'm going to use my super deductive powers and say that this is an Austrian PT630.

    Anyways, a run down of the different versions would still be appreciated. Thanks everyone.
     
  15. Manaldo

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    Could anyone tell me about the specs of PT630?
    Thanks a lot
     
  16. Manaldo

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    Head Size: 97 sq. in. / 626 sq. cm. Length : 27 inches / 69 cm. Construction :20 mm Constant Beam. Composition :High Twaron and Graphite. Strung Weight :12 ounces / 340 grams. Power Level: Low. Stiffness: 58 (0-100). Power: B, 40 (0-100). Control: B, 60 (0-100). Manueverability: A, 73 (0-100). Stroke Style: Long, Full Swing speed: Fast. Balance: 8pts Head Light. Grip type: Cushion Grip. String Tension:50-60 pounds. String Pattern:18 Mains / 20 Crosses.

    I think I got it...
     
  17. dr325i

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    No matter what, I keep coming back to this great racket.
    I have just obtained 2x of the PT57A with a Microgel Radical MP PJ.
    338g strung, 8pt HL, I'd say about 56 flex, again in love with them...

    Currently using them as a backup for the best and most surprising stick I have found: Major Bullit Pro Lite 16x19 with silicone and lead is amazing!
     
  18. craniopath

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    stripped down pt630

    guys this is how my new (!) pt630 looks like after I brutally removed the buttcap and pallet :)

    what is this red thing?


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    anyone would be interested in donating a size 5 pallet to this cause :oops:
     
  19. tperrott

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    Are these genuine Pro Tour 280s?

    I just purchased/received these from a very popular online auction site. Please take a look at my pictures and let me know if these are real. I am new to this and the website where I posted the pics, so thanks for your patience. I do know that the guy put on custom pallets, which is why the butt cap is plain black, but my concern is the frame itself.

    http://profile.imageshack.us/user/tperrott/
     
  20. vsbabolat

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    The frames you have look to be the last SMU of the Pro Tour 280 and those were made China. They are form around 2000, 2001.
     
  21. vsbabolat

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    The red stuff is the IDS isosrb material. You should have heated up the pallets with a hair dryer and then very gently taken them off the hair-pin. It would have been much easier and you could have saved the pallets.
     
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  22. tperrott

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    Thank you very much for the info. I don't know what SMU stands for though? Thanks.
     
  23. vsbabolat

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    Special Make-Up. It was long discontinued and brought back for a few accounts.
     
  24. craniopath

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    thank you for the info. one of the pallets was damaged so there was no reason to save them.
     
  25. Goly

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    I have got brand new Pro Tour 630. Please take a look at my pictures and let me know what version it is, especially year of production and additional informations. Thanks everyone.

    Pro Tour 630
     
  26. Dave M

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    Mid 90s, judging by the handle and i think thats when Wheaton would of been at his most famous!? I don't think i've seen anbody mention him on here as the poster boy for this frame.
    it's nice have you had it long?Probably looking to sell it aren't you??
    ;-)
     
  27. vsbabolat

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    HEAD put Wheaton on the header card after Muster switched to Kneissl. So that would be 96-97. Wheaton's best years were in the early 90's while using the Graphite Pro.
     
  28. vsbabolat

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    I could give you a exact year if you take some good photos of the white and black label on the plastic covering the grip.
     
  29. Goly

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    Thank you for reply. I bought this racquet from my friend who had brought it from Germany about 6 years ago. I'm gonna sell it but I do not know the real value of this frame. Any ideas ?

    Thanks. In a few days I will take some good photos and put them here.
     
  30. Goly

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    New photos added - PT 630.
    I also have uploaded some photos of my second PT630 - this version is almost the same as Wheaton's but:
    - has not got black&white label on the handle(it came unstuck) and the header card,
    - has got diffrent replacement grip(Head Contour Cushion Grip, check pictures)
    - has got diffrent shade of the varnish(less metallic than Wheaton's version and varnish is more purple than blue).

    Please, let me know what version it is and a exact year of the Wheaton's. Thanks!
     
  31. vsbabolat

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    Your "Wheaton" was made in 1996.
     
  32. craniopath

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    new pallets for pt630

    I'm thinking about buying TK82S pallets for my pt630 and I wonder whether it (or any replacement pallet) will work. The pallets on the pt630 have slots (?) to accomodate the IDS, do you know whether all head pallets have those? Otherwise the pallet will just not fit properly. Sorry I just never saw any other head pallet.

    thanks
     
  33. dr325i

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    They will fit no problem.
    The mold on your PT630 is the same as on the YT Prestige MP/Pro, so it will fit nicely. Also, if you need any in 4 3/8, please contact me.
     
  34. JT_2eighty

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    Speaking of pallets, anyone know the material difference between the old TK76 and the new pallets found on the YOUTEK models? I'm curious if the old ones are better in dampening, as I recall the TK76 to seem more like a compressed-foam sort of material, whereas the new YT pallets just look like plastic.
     
  35. Hankenstein

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    Lets say TW brought back the PT630 to their website and sold it for somewhere around 160-199 $, how many frames would you buy then? I think I would stock up 7-8 frames or so. The design of the PT630 is just so spot on! GOAT!
     
  36. dgoran

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    I already have 8 but i would buy 2-3 more just out of curiosity
     
  37. dgoran

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    If u are thinking about selling those contact me with a price...
     
  38. ae1222

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    I actually hit with your custom PJ PT630 yesterday, still such a sweet stick!
     
  39. MesQueUnClub

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    Anyone know of way to reduce the grip size on a PT 280? I have a couple of Austrian PT 280s that I would like to bring down from 5/8 to a 1/2 or 3/8. I am looking for ways other than playing without a the grip and just an overgrip or something similar to that.

    Can one of the PT280 experts weigh in on this...


    EDIT : Never mind. Saw this : http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=346201
     
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  40. Hankenstein

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    Lovely! :) That was such a nice, heavy, solid frame!! Does the PJ still hold on?
     
  41. MesQueUnClub

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    Any one got a couple of 3/8 pallets for PT 280 for sale?

    Edit : Thanks TW. got them.
     
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  42. ae1222

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    Yes it still looks exactly like the day you sent it to me. I will try to figure out how to post pics on this and upload a few...
     
  43. craniopath

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    tk82s for pt630

    I don't doubt the tk82s pallets will fit pt630 or not but about the closeness of the fit. to my knowledge tk82s is only used in youtek speed series and I don't think those racquets have IDS hence they may not have the depressions/slots (what have you) the pt630 racquets have, than the fit will not be close enough.

    For those of you who didn't need to remove the pallets you can see what I'm referring to in post 1649, sorry the picture is dark. pt630 has this IDS on the handle which sticks out a few millimeters hence the pallet is molded to accomodate for that. is there anyone here who has seen the inside of a tk82s pallet, does it have the slots I'm referring to.

    many thanks
     
  44. Dave M

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    If you hold a 82 and an 82s next to each other there isn't any difference to the "inside" as it were, just the shape of the outside that alters.
     
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  45. craniopath

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    do they both have the slots or neithe have it?
    I didn't see a tk82 pallet neither, pallets I removed from my pt630 only have 3 printed on them.
     
  46. Dave M

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    I'd say neither to be honest, both sides (halves) are a smooth matched shape
     
  47. craniopath

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    that's not good news. there should be some head pallet which will fit over handles with IDS
     
  48. craniopath

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    anyone here have a spare TK76 pallet and buttcap in size 5?

    thanks
     
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    pt630 sans IDS

    hello everyone.
    does anyone here have a pro tour without those pinkish IDS pads, how does it play?

    thanks
     
  50. ae1222

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    I switched out the pallets on my Pro Tour and removed the IDS pads, I didn't really notice a difference. I did add a leather grip though so maybe that helps with the vibration dampening...
     

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